Help needed: Saved scene can be loaded and worked with but when saving it new DS crashes

cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
edited May 2016 in The Commons

Have a scene with my Character and clothes and hair. I can load the scene, I can work with the scene but when I try to save the scene by just "save" or "save under" DS4.8 crashes. It saves until 99% and than crash.

The thing is, this morning I was able to save the same scene, this evening I can`t save it anymore. DS wasn`t closed or anything like this until this evening, the scene was open from this morning on, I just have changed a shape and wanted to save the scene and than DS crashes and from now everytime it crashes if I try to save the scene, also without changing anything, I load the scene and when I try to save the scene without changing anything DS crashes. I have restart my computer and tried it again. The same thing, I can load the scene, I can work with the scene but I can`t not save it, DS crashes.

Then I have created a primitiv cylinder and just save the cylinder as scene, everything was okay. Load the scene with my character again, tried to save it DS crashes. Anyone an idea?

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  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
    edited May 2016

    Also saving the scene as scene subset does not work, DS crashes after saving 99% of the file. DS ones again turns out as really great software

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  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609

    Loading the scene and then saving my G3F character as scene subset does not work, DS crashes.

  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609

    okay, have loaded an older scene (the same scene with some different shaping values for G3F, saved some days before) This scene I was able to save. There must be something in this latest scene (with this G3F character because just saving the figure as scene subset without anything else also causes a crash) that causes the crash. The thing is, as written above, at this morning I was able to save this scene, a view hours later without changing anything except a value of a shape saving causes a crash.

  • kaotkblisskaotkbliss Posts: 2,914

    Did you try deleting everything out of the scene except the character, then saving the sscene (with a new name so you don't overwrite your old one) or even just saving the entire scene with a new name?

  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609

    Did you try deleting everything out of the scene except the character, then saving the sscene (with a new name so you don't overwrite your old one) or even just saving the entire scene with a new name?

    Tries after loading this scene:

    1. saving it complete without any changes - CRASH after 99%

    2. saving it under a new name without changes - CRASH after 99%

    3. saving just the figure as scene subset without any changes - CRASH after 99%

    The same scene was saved at the morning twice first as original second as copy and both scenes now have the same issue what is absolutely crazy because if the original scene has an issue after the last saving how was I able to save it as a copy and how can both have now the same issue???

    now what I mean?

     

  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
    edited May 2016

    The thing is, how can two different files have the same issue now (crash during saving) when I was able to save the first file as second file (copy) before? That is crazy even the scecond scene wasn`t closed. I just have made a change on the character in the second scene and want to save it and CRASH. I started DS new and load the first scene but now also this scene crashes during saving how can this be???. Now both scenes, the first and the second scene crashes both during saving. It must have something to do with the G3F figure in this scene because I can save out clothes and hair and other stuff as scene subset and everything is finde but if I try to save out G3F as scene subset DS crashes.

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  • kaotkblisskaotkbliss Posts: 2,914
    edited May 2016

    how is your hard drive free space looking?

     

    *edit*

    Also, have you tried to save to a different drive?

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  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609

    how is your hard drive free space looking?

     

    *edit*

    Also, have you tried to save to a different drive?

     

    have around 30GB free

  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
    edited May 2016

    The thing is, have loaded a scene saved two days ago, same clothes, same hairs, same figure just a view other values of the figure shapes, have edited the figure so it looks like the version in the scenes that I cannot save anymore and this scene I can save again and again and again also as scene subset, no problems, the problem occurs only at the two scenes I have saved this morning and as written, these two scenes are complete the same scenes just with a little difference in the file name because I have saved scene 1 as scene 2 and after that I am not able to save scene 1 or scene 2 anymore. this is crazy.

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  • kaotkblisskaotkbliss Posts: 2,914

    Does the log file say anything?

    Tryting to narrow down the cause of the crash, perhaps it's a specific combination of morph values or something strange like that.

  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609

    Well, have loaded the two days old scene and have edited my character and saved it as complete new scene and scene subset and both I can load and save again, so the problem is fixed so far, the thing is that the issue that occurs at these two scenes that I cannot save anymore can occur again I think, because it seems to be a totally crazy error without any reasonable explanation.

  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609

    Does the log file say anything?

    Tryting to narrow down the cause of the crash, perhaps it's a specific combination of morph values or something strange like that.

    have saved the log as zip and will send it to DAZ and yes, there was a reason shown but that tells me nothing.

  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609

    Does the log file say anything?

    Tryting to narrow down the cause of the crash, perhaps it's a specific combination of morph values or something strange like that.

    that is what I also thought, that was the reason why I have loaded the first scene that I was able to save under a new name this morning (as copy) and tried to save it without any changes but CRASH after 99%. That is what I do not get, in the morning I was able to save this first scene and also save it under a new name and now I am not able to save it without a CRASH.

  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609

    Have had an equal issue with favorited GF3 morphs that disappeared in one scene after saving and loading the scene new. This error did not affected this one scene but also some other scenes with the G3F figure in it but not all scenes. I was able to find a scene that have had all the favorited morphs. The issue was equal. Different scenes with different names were affected and that is a thing I do not understand.

  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
    edited May 2016

    This must be a DS Software issue and must have something to do with the database or file organisation and this asset stuff. How else can files be affected, that were not newly stored.

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  • kaotkblisskaotkbliss Posts: 2,914

    What if you load your old save (since you have 2 now), adjust the morphs a little bit and try resaving?

     

    As far as weirdness, I have an outfit I created that had absolutely no problems in 4.8 but tends to crash out 4.9 for an unknown reason. Everytime I change something (reworking textures, shaders UVs, etc.), it starts working normal but after a few loads, starts crashing Daz again. I've given up trying to figure it out, if I keep trying, eventually after half a dozen crashes or so, it will eventually load up.

  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609

    What if you load your old save (since you have 2 now), adjust the morphs a little bit and try resaving?

     

    As far as weirdness, I have an outfit I created that had absolutely no problems in 4.8 but tends to crash out 4.9 for an unknown reason. Everytime I change something (reworking textures, shaders UVs, etc.), it starts working normal but after a few loads, starts crashing Daz again. I've given up trying to figure it out, if I keep trying, eventually after half a dozen crashes or so, it will eventually load up.

    seems equal to my issue with these two scenes have saved them more than once both maybe that is the problem, but as written, how can I save scene 1 without problem, save scene one as scene 2 without problem but than I can`t save scene 1 or scene 2 anymore but I can load them and work with them without any problem, just saving make DS crash.

  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609

    this is the window that pops up with the reason for the error:

     

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  • kaotkblisskaotkbliss Posts: 2,914

    What about going to Help->Troubleshooting->View Log File?

    When you open it and scroll to the very end, you need to scroll back up until you see the stuff about daz starting and scene being cleared (that's the session you just opened to view the log file) so the stuff right before that is the previous session, what daz was doing before it crashed.

  • ScavengerScavenger Posts: 2,674

    I've had similar issues in the past.. other things to try is to open a new scene, merge the old one in, and trying sayving the new, or copying the scene in your file system and opening the copy.

     

    IIRC what I eventually got worked was opening it in a windows partition, then saving it a new to open it on the mac.

  • Ron KnightsRon Knights Posts: 2,073

    My first thought is that you need to update to the latest version of DAZ Studio. Very often problems are fixed when a new version arrives.

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