Quick Question About Photoshop

If I decide to do the $9.99 a month plan for photoshop can I access it from any computer (i.e. my laptop, my pc and my work pc)?  Or can I only have it on one device?

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  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,272

    IIRC, you can install it on 2 machines with the base plan. 

  • L'AdairL'Adair Posts: 9,479

    https://forums.adobe.com/thread/998899

    "You can install the apps available in Creative Cloud on your primary computer and one backup computer, as long as they are not running at the same time. You will have access to both the Mac OS and Windows versions, so if you have a Mac at home and a PC at work, for example, you can install your applications on both. See the product license agreements page for more information."

    For me the more important issue is you can't access the program once your subscription expires. I have the CS6 Master Collection and the cost of subscribing to all the apps for a year is comparable to what it used to cost to upgrade the Master Collection every year. But here's the kicker. No matter how many years you subscribe, when you end the subscription, you do not have a copy of your programs to work with. You can still purchase CS6 applications, (or could the last I checked,) but there are numerous new features in CC that you will have come to rely on that won't be in CS6. As someone staring a fixed income in the face, I'm not willing to go down that road.

    You might want to check out the cost of purchasing a license to Photoshop CS6. It will be a one time cost, and you'll always have access to the program.

    At least, that's my recommendation.

     

  • IceDragonArtIceDragonArt Posts: 12,750

    Okay I just don't want to put it on the laptop if I can only use it on one. If I had to pick one it would be the pc lol.  But I use them both fairly equally so it would be nice if I could load it on more than one.... And if I could work on things on my lunch.

  • VhardamisVhardamis Posts: 576

    I can confirm the 2 as well. I've got it on my home Pc and my laptop.

  • dracorndracorn Posts: 2,353
    edited April 2016

    There you go!  Finally took the plunge!  I'm having a blast with Photoshop.

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  • IceDragonArtIceDragonArt Posts: 12,750
    L'Adair said:

    https://forums.adobe.com/thread/998899

    "You can install the apps available in Creative Cloud on your primary computer and one backup computer, as long as they are not running at the same time. You will have access to both the Mac OS and Windows versions, so if you have a Mac at home and a PC at work, for example, you can install your applications on both. See the product license agreements page for more information."

    For me the more important issue is you can't access the program once your subscription expires. I have the CS6 Master Collection and the cost of subscribing to all the apps for a year is comparable to what it used to cost to upgrade the Master Collection every year. But here's the kicker. No matter how many years you subscribe, when you end the subscription, you do not have a copy of your programs to work with. You can still purchase CS6 applications, (or could the last I checked,) but there are numerous new features in CC that you will have come to rely on that won't be in CS6. As someone staring a fixed income in the face, I'm not willing to go down that road.

    You might want to check out the cost of purchasing a license to Photoshop CS6. It will be a one time cost, and you'll always have access to the program.

    At least, that's my recommendation.

     

    I have elements so if I decide to end my subscription I should still have all of that to use should I need to.  I actually have elements 11 and 13.  So worse case scenario I will be missing a couple of the tools that don't come with the elements programs (which honestly, are packed with a TON of stuff, but I want to try the warp tool and a couple other things that aren't available)  its not a tragedy if I end up going back to just the elements program.  I iwll check out the license though and see what that is about as well.  Thank you!

  • fastbike1fastbike1 Posts: 4,078

    True and all but you can get Photoshop and Lightroom for $9.99 USD/ month. Equivalent currency is two Starbucks 

  • IceDragonArtIceDragonArt Posts: 12,750
    fastbike1 said:

    True and all but you can get Photoshop and Lightroom for $9.99 USD/ month. Equivalent currency is two Starbucks 

    Yes this is what I will most likely do but I will still follow up on checking out L'adair's suggestion as well. I like to have all my facts lol.  And that is why I don't buy Starbucks lol.

  • KnittingmommyKnittingmommy Posts: 8,191
    fastbike1 said:

    True and all but you can get Photoshop and Lightroom for $9.99 USD/ month. Equivalent currency is two Starbucks 

    People always say that, but I'm someone who doesn't drink coffee or any other thing on a daily basis that would warrant the exchange.  I haven't even managed to step into a Starbucks to use the one $25 gift certificate that I got for free just to see what I might want and we have one on almost every other corner!  And, if I got all of the things I wanted that was the equivalent to just a couple of cups of coffee, I'd still be broke as there are too many things I wish I could get!

    Somehow, I can't see subscribing to a program and not being able to have access to it if I unsubscribe down the road!  It is a shame that more and more programs are doing this because, personally, I hate the trend.  I would love to have access to Photoshop, but I'm not willing to do a month to month subscription to get it.

  • IceDragonArtIceDragonArt Posts: 12,750
    fastbike1 said:

    True and all but you can get Photoshop and Lightroom for $9.99 USD/ month. Equivalent currency is two Starbucks 

    People always say that, but I'm someone who doesn't drink coffee or any other thing on a daily basis that would warrant the exchange.  I haven't even managed to step into a Starbucks to use the one $25 gift certificate that I got for free just to see what I might want and we have one on almost every other corner!  And, if I got all of the things I wanted that was the equivalent to just a couple of cups of coffee, I'd still be broke as there are too many things I wish I could get!

    Somehow, I can't see subscribing to a program and not being able to have access to it if I unsubscribe down the road!  It is a shame that more and more programs are doing this because, personally, I hate the trend.  I would love to have access to Photoshop, but I'm not willing to do a month to month subscription to get it.

    Ya I am really struggling with the rent to use part of it.  I guess I am just old school and prefer to actually purchase the items I am paying for. Which is why i will check out L'Adairs suggestion as well.  I hate, hate, hate this kind of plan and have resisted up until now.  but there are a couple of tools that don't come with elements (most notably the warp tool that allows you to warp things in any way you want - elemnts has something similar but its very limited for what I need) that I would find most useful.  I also have a fairly early edition CS2 I believe.  Hmmm haven't opened that one up recently I will have to have another look at that before deciding but I am pretty sure that my current elements has more tools than the CS2

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 107,999

    I have seen Photoline and Affinity Photo (the latter currentyl Mac only but they have said they are working on a Windows version) praised as alternatives to PS that have permanent licenses. It's some of the other Adobe applications that would be harder to replace.

  • IceDragonArtIceDragonArt Posts: 12,750

    I really only use the photoshop part of it currently although I do want to check out light room when I get the chance.  Have had photoshop elements for about 4 or 5 years now but haven't explored the rest of what comes with it yet by a long shot.  Too many programs to learn!   lol.

  • KnittingmommyKnittingmommy Posts: 8,191

    I have seen Photoline and Affinity Photo (the latter currentyl Mac only but they have said they are working on a Windows version) praised as alternatives to PS that have permanent licenses. It's some of the other Adobe applications that would be harder to replace.

    Currently, I use GIMP for postwork which I'm just getting into learning how to do effectively, but there seem to be a few very cool tools that are only available to Photoshop.  I wouldn't be adverse to actually buying a program when I could afford it so, if either of those two programs do what Photoshop could, but GIMP can't, then I would seriously take a look when/if they port over.  Since I also use Linux, though, I have heard there is a developer attempting to make a Wine-like emulator for OS X called Darling so it might be possible to take a look at this in the future without the port to Windows so thanks for the heads up, Richard!  And since, I don't even use or look at the other Photoshop products, I don't exactly know what I'm missing there.

  • nelsonsmithnelsonsmith Posts: 1,337
    edited April 2016

    This is what I did.  Not because I'm cheap, but rather the working poor, and photoshop at this stage is still a hobby, and a learning propostion that doesn't warrant a monthly bill  that might well leave me completely up the creek if for some reason I can't make that monthly payment.  I have CS5 for which I'm totally happy with, but for my lap top I went on Ebay and bought a copy of Photoshop 7.0 for like $20.  Then I bought an upgrade to CS5 for around $100  ( you can find similar deals if you're patient) so I now have a version of CS5 on my laptop for bit less than $150 that is mine for impertuity.  

    Thank goodness for technophiles who have to have the latest version, because it always floods the market with versions people don't want anymore.

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  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,843
    fastbike1 said:

    True and all but you can get Photoshop and Lightroom for $9.99 USD/ month. Equivalent currency is two Starbucks 

    People always say that, but I'm someone who doesn't drink coffee or any other thing on a daily basis that would warrant the exchange.  I haven't even managed to step into a Starbucks to use the one $25 gift certificate that I got for free just to see what I might want and we have one on almost every other corner!  And, if I got all of the things I wanted that was the equivalent to just a couple of cups of coffee, I'd still be broke as there are too many things I wish I could get!

    Somehow, I can't see subscribing to a program and not being able to have access to it if I unsubscribe down the road!  It is a shame that more and more programs are doing this because, personally, I hate the trend.  I would love to have access to Photoshop, but I'm not willing to do a month to month subscription to get it.

    same here. I loathe cloud based anything. Luckily I still have an older version of photoshop, but I find I use gimp most of the time anyway.

  • VhardamisVhardamis Posts: 576

    I'm with you Knitting and FSMC. I loathe that PS went cloud based because with my work schedule it can be months in between when I get to actually sit down and just art, Sadly there are 3 upgrades they made to CC2015 that make it faster on my nromal work flow. I would bite the bullet and outright buy it if they let us. Instead its either pay for it when I won't use it or go through that hassle of resubbing every 3 months or so.

  • IceDragonArtIceDragonArt Posts: 12,750
    Vhardamis said:

    I'm with you Knitting and FSMC. I loathe that PS went cloud based because with my work schedule it can be months in between when I get to actually sit down and just art, Sadly there are 3 upgrades they made to CC2015 that make it faster on my nromal work flow. I would bite the bullet and outright buy it if they let us. Instead its either pay for it when I won't use it or go through that hassle of resubbing every 3 months or so.

    Another reason I have been so hesitant. And this is just a hobby for me at the moment so I might use it frequently for a month and then not touch it for a couple more.  Now, to be honest, this is how I relax and $10 a month is far cheaper than a good phychiatrist....

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,256

    I have seen Photoline and Affinity Photo (the latter currentyl Mac only but they have said they are working on a Windows version) praised as alternatives to PS that have permanent licenses. It's some of the other Adobe applications that would be harder to replace.

    I haven't checked the latest versions of Illustrator but Xara's vector programs have always been considered decent (and generally much faster) alternatives. The later versions also include photo editing tools as well as the ability to use PhotoShop plugins. It's a very versatile tool which the gallery also reveals:

    http://www.xara.com/us/gallery/

     

  • pdspds Posts: 593

    If you don't need the current enhancements/features of Photoshop CC2015, then CS6 is certainly fine. Just  know that as the program continues to evolve and operating systems change, your investment in CS6 may become obsolete as it is no longer supported with updates. That may or may not be a problem for you. 

    Another thing to note is that while the "photography bundle" (or any Adobe product I believe) limits you to installing the program on no more than 2 computers simultaneously, with the Cloud version, you can easily activate and deactivate the program on multiple machines, without repeatedly installing/uninstalling the software. So you can have it available on more than two machines, and simply sign in/out of the particular ones you want to use. For example, I have a desktop PC at home, a Mac tower at work, and a laptop. With CC, I can switch between any of the three by logging into/out of my CC account. Typically, I toggle between my home PC and my laptop, leaving my work machine active at all times. 

     

    In the end, go with the solution that best meets your needs. I found that I was upgrading PS every other version and even that was more expensive than CC, so I eventually bit the bullet. I still have CS6, but haven't used it since making the transition to CC. 

  • outrider42outrider42 Posts: 3,679
    edited April 2016
    If the warp tool is your main reason for looking at subbing Photoshop, GIMP 2.9 (the developer version) has 2 different warp tools. Cage Transform and Warp Transform. Cage involves setting up any number of points around an area and moving them. Warp Transform is more of a spot deformer. It has numerous settings and parameters, and it is very easy to use. Give it a try and see if it works for you. You can do some incredible things with it.
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  • MN-150374MN-150374 Posts: 923
    edited April 2016
    If the warp tool is your main reason for looking at subbing Photoshop, GIMP 2.9 (the developer version) has 2 different warp tools. Cage Transform and Warp Transform. Cage involves setting up any number of points around an area and moving them. Warp Transform is more of a spot deformer. It has numerous settings and parameters, and it is very easy to use. Give it a try and see if it works for you. You can do some incredible things with it.

    It looks very handy, but with some practice, you can already do a lot of these things in Gimp 2.8 with the iwarp-Filter. Look at Filters => Distort => Iwarp

     

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  • IceDragonArtIceDragonArt Posts: 12,750

    I have never been able to get the hang of gimp, photoshop has always been far more intuitive for me for some reason.  But I will give it another look before i make up my mind.

  • TabascoJackTabascoJack Posts: 865

    I started using GIMP, but then bit the bullet and tried out PS CC2015.  To me, at least, it's much more intuitive and easier to use.   I decided the difference in ease of use to be worth the $10 / month.  Obviously, that's a personal preference and your experiences may very likely be different.

  • IceDragonArtIceDragonArt Posts: 12,750

    I started using GIMP, but then bit the bullet and tried out PS CC2015.  To me, at least, it's much more intuitive and easier to use.   I decided the difference in ease of use to be worth the $10 / month.  Obviously, that's a personal preference and your experiences may very likely be different.

    I also find photoshop to be far more intuitive for me than Gimp.  I tried Gimp many years ago and walked away in frustrations.  I already know my way around photoshop and am comfortable in it and I also have to look at the fact that, do I really have time to learn another program?  I'm still very new to Daz just 7 months and am still trying to learn all the tools here as well as both 3Delight and Iray, still learning about texturing etc and haven't even touched some of the other tools like deformers etc.  Still want to learn at least the basics of modelling... Its a bit overwhelming to think about figuring out another program when I am comfortable in and like photoshop. I think I will do the 30 day trial and if I decide i like it enough I will sign up for the monthly deal.  Although I still hate the idea of rent to ummm rent.

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,843

    I started using GIMP, but then bit the bullet and tried out PS CC2015.  To me, at least, it's much more intuitive and easier to use.   I decided the difference in ease of use to be worth the $10 / month.  Obviously, that's a personal preference and your experiences may very likely be different.

    I also find photoshop to be far more intuitive for me than Gimp.  I tried Gimp many years ago and walked away in frustrations.  I already know my way around photoshop and am comfortable in it and I also have to look at the fact that, do I really have time to learn another program?  I'm still very new to Daz just 7 months and am still trying to learn all the tools here as well as both 3Delight and Iray, still learning about texturing etc and haven't even touched some of the other tools like deformers etc.  Still want to learn at least the basics of modelling... Its a bit overwhelming to think about figuring out another program when I am comfortable in and like photoshop. I think I will do the 30 day trial and if I decide i like it enough I will sign up for the monthly deal.  Although I still hate the idea of rent to ummm rent.

    Sounds like a no brainer then, photoshop it is. I am just te opposite, never really got along with the photoshop UI (user interface). I had the same thing with Gimp years ago, but since i couldn't get photoshop to run on the system I was on i was forced to learn Gimp and now know my way around it rather well.

    As for modeling, get ready for a whole new round of learning new UIs, LOL. I have used most of the modeling apps out there and they all have their pros and cons when it comes to the UI. 3DSMax works best for me, but comes with a steep upgrade path. I wish I could grasp the blender UI, but no matter how many times i try to figure it out, it just doesn't click.

  • IceDragonArtIceDragonArt Posts: 12,750

    I started using GIMP, but then bit the bullet and tried out PS CC2015.  To me, at least, it's much more intuitive and easier to use.   I decided the difference in ease of use to be worth the $10 / month.  Obviously, that's a personal preference and your experiences may very likely be different.

    I also find photoshop to be far more intuitive for me than Gimp.  I tried Gimp many years ago and walked away in frustrations.  I already know my way around photoshop and am comfortable in it and I also have to look at the fact that, do I really have time to learn another program?  I'm still very new to Daz just 7 months and am still trying to learn all the tools here as well as both 3Delight and Iray, still learning about texturing etc and haven't even touched some of the other tools like deformers etc.  Still want to learn at least the basics of modelling... Its a bit overwhelming to think about figuring out another program when I am comfortable in and like photoshop. I think I will do the 30 day trial and if I decide i like it enough I will sign up for the monthly deal.  Although I still hate the idea of rent to ummm rent.

    Sounds like a no brainer then, photoshop it is. I am just te opposite, never really got along with the photoshop UI (user interface). I had the same thing with Gimp years ago, but since i couldn't get photoshop to run on the system I was on i was forced to learn Gimp and now know my way around it rather well.

    As for modeling, get ready for a whole new round of learning new UIs, LOL. I have used most of the modeling apps out there and they all have their pros and cons when it comes to the UI. 3DSMax works best for me, but comes with a steep upgrade path. I wish I could grasp the blender UI, but no matter how many times i try to figure it out, it just doesn't click.

    I know.  I am going to have to learn either hexagon or blender since my budget just isn't going to allow for anything else.  I do have sculptris which I actually really like a lot but haven't done anything serious with. I have a couple of tutorials for clothing for both hexagon and blender that I really need to sit down and watch/do.  What I really need is about 4 of me....

  • IvyIvy Posts: 7,165

    If I decide to do the $9.99 a month plan for photoshop can I access it from any computer (i.e. my laptop, my pc and my work pc)?  Or can I only have it on one device?

    If you don;t want to buy  the full version of Photshop cs6 . You may want to consider PhotoShop Elements  its a heck of a lot cheaper the Creative cloud. and pretty much offers all the same features as CC Photoshop.  minus the consent Updates. and having to login to authenticate your  active account every month,  and the best thing is PhotoShop Elements  is a standalone software not Digital Rights Managed ( DRM) . So once you buy it, you own it. no rent to use.

     

  • IceDragonArtIceDragonArt Posts: 12,750
    Ivy said:

    If I decide to do the $9.99 a month plan for photoshop can I access it from any computer (i.e. my laptop, my pc and my work pc)?  Or can I only have it on one device?

    If you don;t want to buy  the full version of Photshop cs6 . You may want to consider PhotoShop Elements  its a heck of a lot cheaper the Creative cloud. and pretty much offers all the same features as CC Photoshop.  minus the consent Updates. and having to login to authenticate your  active account every month,  and the best thing is PhotoShop Elements  is a standalone software not Digital Rights Managed ( DRM) . So once you buy it, you own it. no rent to use.

     

    I do have element 11 and 13.  There are a couple features missing that come in full version that I would find most useful, which is where my real struggle lies.  I don't absolutely have to have these particular tools and my elements program has 85% of what the full version has, possibly 90%.  The real issue is, it worth the $10 a month to access 10% or 15% that I don't have access to through elements. How badly do I really need the missing stuff.

  • IvyIvy Posts: 7,165

    Which feature or tools you looking for Ice Dragon Art?.

  • fastbike1fastbike1 Posts: 4,078

    People really don't seem to take the time to understand various products and options once the word "cloud" appears. For example, Photoshop CC2015 isn't "cloud based". The software resides on your PC/Mac. Updates are delivered through the internet just like everything else. Your art resides wherever you put it: internal drive, external drive, Adobe cloud, dropbox etc.

    FWIW, Elements doesn't offer anywhre near the tools that Photshop has. It may offer enough for a user but it's not really close.

    Just so we're clear, I don't really care which personal choices people make, just don't like seeing people make choices based on incomplete / incorrect information. i suppose, i should probably stop caring about that as well.

    Just remember, all choices have consequences.

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