Fast Grab = Rons Brushes

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  • carrie58carrie58 Posts: 4,109

    Well I'll keep using GIMP even if it makes my head explode ,and I grabbed all of  Ron's brushes I've been drooling over for years (it seems like) ,now I'll figure out how to only bring in the ones I need to use at the moment ,that'll work

    laugh

  • Llola LaneLlola Lane Posts: 9,633

    Hi Gang... not sure if Ron is reading this thread... but... are there any tutorials of HOW the promos were made using the brushes??? I've not found any project tutorials anywhere... I've got all these brushes.. now what???

  • KharmaKharma Posts: 3,214

    Ya and if you use it for10 years its over $1000.

    Given Photoshop used to cost something like $700, and you could probably expect 2 or three versions in that time, that's a great deal.

    Because the way it USED to be? I was just not going to be able to get Photoshop.

     

    Will have you considered trying Paintshop Pro? I have used PSP since version 5 and my current version is PSP6X and I think the purchase price is only about 79.00 Cnd and upgrades are cheap and it does alot of what Photoshop does and can use PS brushes, I also have PS CS2 but I still like PSP.

  • IceDragonArtIceDragonArt Posts: 12,922

    Ya and if you use it for10 years its over $1000.

    Given Photoshop used to cost something like $700, and you could probably expect 2 or three versions in that time, that's a great deal.

    Because the way it USED to be? I was just not going to be able to get Photoshop.

     

    Elements can do almost everything that the full version can for less than $100.

  • Lissa_xyzLissa_xyz Posts: 6,116
    edited March 2016

    Hi Gang... not sure if Ron is reading this thread... but... are there any tutorials of HOW the promos were made using the brushes??? I've not found any project tutorials anywhere... I've got all these brushes.. now what???

    The ones used in the promos look like the full colour pngs, to be honest. It looks like he photographs in full colour, then creates brushes out of b&w versions. To achieve similar looks using the actual brushes, look up things like blending modes, layer styles, and adjustment layers. There may also be a bit of manual painting involved as well since not everything is meant to be a single solid colour, so you'll want info on creating highlights and shadows (usually brighter/darker versions of the underlaying colour and blurred using a low intensity round brush until you get what you want).

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  • Llola LaneLlola Lane Posts: 9,633
    Vaskania said:

    Hi Gang... not sure if Ron is reading this thread... but... are there any tutorials of HOW the promos were made using the brushes??? I've not found any project tutorials anywhere... I've got all these brushes.. now what???

    The ones used in the promos look like the full colour pngs, to be honest. It looks like he photographs in full colour, then creates brushes out of b&w versions. To achieve similar looks using the actual brushes, look up things like blending modes, layer styles, and adjustment layers. There may also be a bit of manual painting involved as well since not everything is meant to be a single solid colour, so you'll want info on creating highlights and shadows (usually brighter/darker versions of the underlaying colour and blurred using a low intensity round brush until you get what you want).

    Thanks Vaskania... I was looking for what tools he used for the promos and some instructions of how he layered each one.. etc.. I've been checking Youtube and watched bunches of videos about layers.. etc.

    I have Paint Shop Pro 7,,, It can't use the ABR file directly... but I've been opening the .abr file in GIMP (harder for me to use than PS) and making various sizes of the brushes into .png... then I can use them in PSP7.  Not sure if there's an easier way.  Can't afford another program right now... especially with a monthly fee involved.

    A 'step by step' guide of a few of Ron's promos would help me figure out what to do.  Hint Hint.. if you are watching this Ron.  ;)

     

  • RGcincyRGcincy Posts: 2,862

    I only have 8 of his brush sets I purchased over the weekend. Two came with tutorials. RonsFlames has a PDF tutorial on how to layer the flames. I worked through it last night using GIMP (a free Photoshop alternative) and it was pretty straightforward. RonsParticles comes with a movie that shows how to add a fire effect to a running figure. 

  • IceDragonArtIceDragonArt Posts: 12,922
    edited March 2016

    Destinysgarden put up a quick tutorial for Ron's ripped fabric brushes.  Let me go find the link to the thread...

    Okay here it is http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/1038599/#Comment_1038599

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  • Pack58Pack58 Posts: 750

    I have Paint Shop Pro 7,,, It can't use the ABR file directly... but I've been opening the .abr file in GIMP (harder for me to use than PS) and making various sizes of the brushes into .png... then I can use them in PSP7.  Not sure if there's an easier way.  Can't afford another program right now... especially with a monthly fee involved.

     File>Import>Custom Brush>Open (find the ARB file in your download)>Add/Add All>OK

    Should end up in Brushes

  • Lissa_xyzLissa_xyz Posts: 6,116
    Vaskania said:

    Hi Gang... not sure if Ron is reading this thread... but... are there any tutorials of HOW the promos were made using the brushes??? I've not found any project tutorials anywhere... I've got all these brushes.. now what???

    The ones used in the promos look like the full colour pngs, to be honest. It looks like he photographs in full colour, then creates brushes out of b&w versions. To achieve similar looks using the actual brushes, look up things like blending modes, layer styles, and adjustment layers. There may also be a bit of manual painting involved as well since not everything is meant to be a single solid colour, so you'll want info on creating highlights and shadows (usually brighter/darker versions of the underlaying colour and blurred using a low intensity round brush until you get what you want).

    Thanks Vaskania... I was looking for what tools he used for the promos and some instructions of how he layered each one.. etc.. I've been checking Youtube and watched bunches of videos about layers.. etc.

    I have Paint Shop Pro 7,,, It can't use the ABR file directly... but I've been opening the .abr file in GIMP (harder for me to use than PS) and making various sizes of the brushes into .png... then I can use them in PSP7.  Not sure if there's an easier way.  Can't afford another program right now... especially with a monthly fee involved.

    A 'step by step' guide of a few of Ron's promos would help me figure out what to do.  Hint Hint.. if you are watching this Ron.  ;)

     

    You can eliminate Gimp in your workflow entirely by using abrView http://www.easyelements.com/abrview.html It's a free little program that will open ABR files and allow you to change size, export, etc.

  • Llola LaneLlola Lane Posts: 9,633
    Pack58 said:

    I have Paint Shop Pro 7,,, It can't use the ABR file directly... but I've been opening the .abr file in GIMP (harder for me to use than PS) and making various sizes of the brushes into .png... then I can use them in PSP7.  Not sure if there's an easier way.  Can't afford another program right now... especially with a monthly fee involved.

     File>Import>Custom Brush>Open (find the ARB file in your download)>Add/Add All>OK

    Should end up in Brushes

    There is no FILE .. IMPORT... CUSTOM BRUSHES in Paint Shop Pro 7

     

  • Llola LaneLlola Lane Posts: 9,633
    Vaskania said:
    Vaskania said:

    Hi Gang... not sure if Ron is reading this thread... but... are there any tutorials of HOW the promos were made using the brushes??? I've not found any project tutorials anywhere... I've got all these brushes.. now what???

    The ones used in the promos look like the full colour pngs, to be honest. It looks like he photographs in full colour, then creates brushes out of b&w versions. To achieve similar looks using the actual brushes, look up things like blending modes, layer styles, and adjustment layers. There may also be a bit of manual painting involved as well since not everything is meant to be a single solid colour, so you'll want info on creating highlights and shadows (usually brighter/darker versions of the underlaying colour and blurred using a low intensity round brush until you get what you want).

    Thanks Vaskania... I was looking for what tools he used for the promos and some instructions of how he layered each one.. etc.. I've been checking Youtube and watched bunches of videos about layers.. etc.

    I have Paint Shop Pro 7,,, It can't use the ABR file directly... but I've been opening the .abr file in GIMP (harder for me to use than PS) and making various sizes of the brushes into .png... then I can use them in PSP7.  Not sure if there's an easier way.  Can't afford another program right now... especially with a monthly fee involved.

    A 'step by step' guide of a few of Ron's promos would help me figure out what to do.  Hint Hint.. if you are watching this Ron.  ;)

     

    You can eliminate Gimp in your workflow entirely by using abrView http://www.easyelements.com/abrview.html It's a free little program that will open ABR files and allow you to change size, export, etc.

    I think that's an old link.. I get SERVER NOT FOUND for the download and various other links :(

     

  • Pack58Pack58 Posts: 750
    Pack58 said:

     File>Import>Custom Brush>Open (find the ARB file in your download)>Add/Add All>OK

    Should end up in Brushes

    There is no FILE .. IMPORT... CUSTOM BRUSHES in Paint Shop Pro 7

     

    Oh ,Paint Shop Pro 7, that's the 2000 version. I was thinking Pro X7, the 2014 version. My bad.

  • Llola LaneLlola Lane Posts: 9,633
    Pack58 said:
    Pack58 said:

     File>Import>Custom Brush>Open (find the ARB file in your download)>Add/Add All>OK

    Should end up in Brushes

    There is no FILE .. IMPORT... CUSTOM BRUSHES in Paint Shop Pro 7

     

    Oh ,Paint Shop Pro 7, that's the 2000 version. I was thinking Pro X7, the 2014 version. My bad.

    Yeah.. I know it's old.. but I know it pretty well... got an owners manual too at the library book sale.. so learning more.  Plus.. I have the hard copy so no cloud for me :) 

  • Lissa_xyzLissa_xyz Posts: 6,116
    edited March 2016
    Vaskania said:
    Vaskania said:

    Hi Gang... not sure if Ron is reading this thread... but... are there any tutorials of HOW the promos were made using the brushes??? I've not found any project tutorials anywhere... I've got all these brushes.. now what???

    The ones used in the promos look like the full colour pngs, to be honest. It looks like he photographs in full colour, then creates brushes out of b&w versions. To achieve similar looks using the actual brushes, look up things like blending modes, layer styles, and adjustment layers. There may also be a bit of manual painting involved as well since not everything is meant to be a single solid colour, so you'll want info on creating highlights and shadows (usually brighter/darker versions of the underlaying colour and blurred using a low intensity round brush until you get what you want).

    Thanks Vaskania... I was looking for what tools he used for the promos and some instructions of how he layered each one.. etc.. I've been checking Youtube and watched bunches of videos about layers.. etc.

    I have Paint Shop Pro 7,,, It can't use the ABR file directly... but I've been opening the .abr file in GIMP (harder for me to use than PS) and making various sizes of the brushes into .png... then I can use them in PSP7.  Not sure if there's an easier way.  Can't afford another program right now... especially with a monthly fee involved.

    A 'step by step' guide of a few of Ron's promos would help me figure out what to do.  Hint Hint.. if you are watching this Ron.  ;)

     

    You can eliminate Gimp in your workflow entirely by using abrView http://www.easyelements.com/abrview.html It's a free little program that will open ABR files and allow you to change size, export, etc.

    I think that's an old link.. I get SERVER NOT FOUND for the download and various other links :(

     

    Crap. Sorry. Didnt' think to test first. Try abrMate then. It's also free and the link works. Click the blue icon. http://www.texturemate.com/abrMate

    This feature, "Preview each brush in .abr files as thumbnail or up to full resolution" should prove useful to get the full size of the brush into PSP.

    Some brush files with abrMate may be hit or miss. I don't know what version Ron uses in creation, but it'll only open CS5 and lower brushes properly. CS6-CC created brushes aren't supported.

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  • Pack58Pack58 Posts: 750
    edited March 2016

    Nothing wrong with old stuff if it does what you want, my one and only installed PC game is AoEII from the same time period and I'd still be using Painter IX if I could have got it to work with Win 8.

    My mind just skipped the lack of an X in your comment.

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  • Silver DolphinSilver Dolphin Posts: 1,640

    Kitakoredaz: 'This is unstable software, please use it at your own risk.'

    Compiling buggy software and hoping nothing breaks doesn't inspire me.

    So I'm waiting for 2.9.2 to hit stable release. Waiting. Waiting.

    (I just tried to download 2.9.2 anyway... and I can't figure out how to compile it, even, so that's... probably a sign I should leave it alone. I don't know code at all)

    Will, if you don't want to compile 292 yourself this person alread has one compiled for window. Oh I have downloaded from Partha's place before and no problems with viruses or malware :http://www.partha.com/

  • ToborTobor Posts: 2,300
    edited March 2016

    Duplicate ... see below.

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  • ToborTobor Posts: 2,300

    Most brush sets, Ron's or otherwise, are really meant for building up using layers, masks, and other effects. Some you can use as-is -- bird silhouettes, for example -- but most others have to apply into a layer, add a gradient or hand-painted color, and other techniques. YouTube has some good tutorials on creative use of brushes. The same techniques can be applied to any brush. As brushes are monochrome (and most are just black/white, with no gray), you'll need to add color or shading to make things look interesting. 

    Some example YT vids:

  • father1776father1776 Posts: 982

    3DS MAX 3d program (industry standard)  1 year subscription total for the year $1,470.00

    PS-CC 2d program (industry standard) 1 year subscription total for the year $120.00

     

    any questions ?

  • RalfZRalfZ Posts: 31

    Ya and if you use it for10 years its over $1000.

    Given Photoshop used to cost something like $700, and you could probably expect 2 or three versions in that time, that's a great deal.

    Because the way it USED to be? I was just not going to be able to get Photoshop.

    Exactly. I'm actually quite happy with Adobe CC – for the first time ever I can finally afford their products. 

  • Llola LaneLlola Lane Posts: 9,633
    Vaskania said:
    Vaskania said:
    Vaskania said:

    Hi Gang... not sure if Ron is reading this thread... but... are there any tutorials of HOW the promos were made using the brushes??? I've not found any project tutorials anywhere... I've got all these brushes.. now what???

    The ones used in the promos look like the full colour pngs, to be honest. It looks like he photographs in full colour, then creates brushes out of b&w versions. To achieve similar looks using the actual brushes, look up things like blending modes, layer styles, and adjustment layers. There may also be a bit of manual painting involved as well since not everything is meant to be a single solid colour, so you'll want info on creating highlights and shadows (usually brighter/darker versions of the underlaying colour and blurred using a low intensity round brush until you get what you want).

    Thanks Vaskania... I was looking for what tools he used for the promos and some instructions of how he layered each one.. etc.. I've been checking Youtube and watched bunches of videos about layers.. etc.

    I have Paint Shop Pro 7,,, It can't use the ABR file directly... but I've been opening the .abr file in GIMP (harder for me to use than PS) and making various sizes of the brushes into .png... then I can use them in PSP7.  Not sure if there's an easier way.  Can't afford another program right now... especially with a monthly fee involved.

    A 'step by step' guide of a few of Ron's promos would help me figure out what to do.  Hint Hint.. if you are watching this Ron.  ;)

     

    You can eliminate Gimp in your workflow entirely by using abrView http://www.easyelements.com/abrview.html It's a free little program that will open ABR files and allow you to change size, export, etc.

    I think that's an old link.. I get SERVER NOT FOUND for the download and various other links :(

     

    Crap. Sorry. Didnt' think to test first. Try abrMate then. It's also free and the link works. Click the blue icon. http://www.texturemate.com/abrMate

    This feature, "Preview each brush in .abr files as thumbnail or up to full resolution" should prove useful to get the full size of the brush into PSP.

    Some brush files with abrMate may be hit or miss. I don't know what version Ron uses in creation, but it'll only open CS5 and lower brushes properly. CS6-CC created brushes aren't supported.

    YAY.. it's working!!!  THANK YOU Vaskania ... that will help me a LOT!!!  Now I don't have to open Gimp... unless I want a different size :)  (hugzzzzzzzzz to you) <--- Doing the HAPPY DANCE!!!  lol

  • ToborTobor Posts: 2,300
    edited March 2016

    As a quick example of using brushes with layers, masks, and clipping, here's an overdone example as a demonstration to show the basic concepts.

    The top layer consists of a stock color gradient with a layer mask; the mask contains one of Ron's Ripped Fabric brushes.

    The second layer is just some text. The top layer clips into the text layer, so the text is filled with both the gradient and the brush.

    Because the brush shape is a layer mask, you can paint over with white, black, or gray to change the brush shape used in the mask.

    The other example shows a more refined application of brushes to add contour or texture.

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  • Llola LaneLlola Lane Posts: 9,633

    Thanks for the videos Tabor... I've watched a few with the generic brushes... I'm wondering what more I can do with the "picture" brushes... like the castles.. birds (mentioned above).. etc? 

    Has anyone made a thread of techniques here at Daz with the brushes???  I know a few people use them a lot.  Budo-san for one... anyone else???  Maybe we can post tips and ideas here? or is there another thread already started?

     

  • Llola LaneLlola Lane Posts: 9,633
    Tobor said:

    As a quick example of using brushes with layers, masks, and clipping, here's an overdone example as a demonstration to show the basic concepts.

    The top layer consists of a stock color gradient with a layer mask; the mask contains one of Ron's Ripped Fabric brushes.

    The second layer is just some text. The top layer clips into the text layer, so the text is filled with both the gradient and the brush.

    Because the brush shape is a layer mask, you can paint over with white, black, or gray to change the brush shape used in the mask.

    The other example shows a more refined application of brushes to add contour or texture.

    I'm gonna have to look and see if my PSP7 can do this.. I'll try it tonight.. ;)

  • Lissa_xyzLissa_xyz Posts: 6,116
    edited March 2016

    @Llola Lane Glad it worked for you! I had to hunting for this thread as it's been a while since I've visited it, but take a peek through http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/68286/postwork-tips-formerly-using-photoshop-brushes-like-those-by-deviney-in-postwork/p1 and see if you can get anything useful out of it.

    The birds seem to do well as-is wherever you plop them. They're meant as background filler. The buildings I'm not sure I've got any, but I looked at his Apocalypse set, and they seem to be along the same lines as using the birds. More for background or really dramatic postworks.

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  • ToborTobor Posts: 2,300

    I'm not sure what layer and clipping features PSP7 has. Ron's examples make pretty heavy use of various layer masking and clipping (and other) techniques, so it's handy to have a program that gives these options.

    While I don't use it myself, you might look into the latest version of Photoshop Elements. It's usually fairly inexpensive, and even comes free with some hardware, like graphics tablets. It handles many of the same layer functions as the full Photoshop does. The biggest problem, though, is that its interface differs in many ways from Photoshop. So you won't be able to as easily follow Youtube tutorial videos.

  • Llola LaneLlola Lane Posts: 9,633

    Thank you Vaskania.. and everyone.. I'm gonna play with my brushes this week.. If I get anything good.. I'll post it here :)  Happy Spring!!!!!!!!!!!!

     

  • CypherFOXCypherFOX Posts: 3,401

    Greetings,

    Given the comments, I'm fairly sure most folks are on Windows, but for Mac users Pixelmator works just fine with most of Ron's brushes.  I've used a ton of them on various projects, along with a few PSDs, and stuff like that using Pixelmator.

    I am missing a grand total of 9 of Ron's products.  One is a bundle of stuff I already have, three are 'custom shapes' that I can't use in Pixelmator, and one's for Carrara.  So I'm really only missing 4 that I could use. :)

    --  Morgan

     

  • Llola LaneLlola Lane Posts: 9,633

    Tobor... my PSP7 has layers.. and I'm finding that I CAN do most of what the videos are showing on youtube with Photoshop.  I got an owners manual from the library and I am slowly going through it and learning. I've even figured out how to make small custom brushes for top stitching on my hemlines for clothes textures.. etc. Learning more with every video I watch ;)

     

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