Heads up Windows 10 upgrade
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Here’s what the Recommended update looks like, according to ZDNet’s Mary Jo Foley: First, users will receive a notification saying their PCs are scheduled to receive Windows 10 in the next three or four days. Users can click a small link to cancel or postpone the update, but simply closing the window will cause the notification to appear again one hour before the scheduled update time. If users don’t cancel or postpone within that timeframe, the update will begin automatically.
For the last couple of update cycles, MS has unhidden and tried to trick me into installing a KB I've rejected several times in the past. If you have KB3035583 installed, uninstall it.
These are the three main ones you don't want if you don't want an auto update: KB3035583 KB2952664 KB3021917
I also identified and hid KB3123862 and KB3135445 and KB 3118401. I don't have time right now to revisit them to see exactly what they were for. I think one was an actual update to Windows update others were some support for upgrading.
You can enter each KB into google if you want to know what each is about.
MS may be trying to auto update these along with win 10. I don't know. I haven't received the popup (yet). All I know for sure is that WinUpd tried to get me to install KB3035583 again.
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KB2952664 is the one that keeps popping up on my update list
Worse still about a stealth update to Windlows 10. I had tried it for a couple of weeks and didn't like it. Thanks for the head's up.
One reason I stick with 8.0. I get occasional requests to update to 8.1, but no stealth options. Just annoying that no support now for 8.0, which means that soon I'll be not connecting to the internet on this.
Although I do have 10 on a seperate ssd. Linux is looking more viable; I could keep this as a render only option.
Most secure method of using a computer - keep it the hell-away from the internet.
Jeez...I'm on Windows 10 now and while I don't mind it all that much after about a week of use (and having learned to completely ignore the entire Start menu), being forced to upgrade to 10 when 7 is still being supported is nuts. They didn't even force a Windows 7 upgrade on XP users when support for that did end.
Get GWX Control Panel from Ultimate Outsider dot com. It checks your computer for any Windows 10 related files and gets rid of them.
Thanks for the handy list, not sure I have actually seen them all mentioned in one easy, all in one place post before. They're gone (now!) from my main W7 laptop and so is, after the required reboot, the GWX icon from the toolbar - note to self: check running processes!! ;)
...thanks for the list as well. had 4 of them showing...including 3035583 again (like the fifth time this one appeared).
Windows 10 occasionaly surprise reboots my laptop with an update, usually when I don't want it too. I don't bother even checking anymore, I just let it do it's thing.
Classic Shell will give you back a normal start menu that you can customize
http://www.classicshell.net/
Yes, I installed Classic Shell the same day I installed Windows 10. I've never used any other interface with it. I like Classic Shell very much. It "feels" like good old familiar Windows 7 for thre most part.
...this is one of the main issues why I don't want 10 on either of my systems. Unless you are an Enterprise user, you have little to no control over the auto update process. In a sense 10 was designed with the LCD (Least Common Denominator) in mind that nobody, even power users, bother to update their systems.
True, in Home you can "schedule" when to install updates (must be within a 24 hour span), and with Pro, defer them for a while, but this still may not prevent a buggy or corrupt update from being installed that messes up your system. Only Enterprise lets you fully control updating like in 7 where you can set it to manual mode, screen updates, and select the only ones you need or want.
7 has four more years of support life left, unless MS decides to pull the plug earlier (like they did with 8.0). If that happens it's "bye bye 3D" for me as none of the Daz programmes run on Linux with any degree of stability. The only 3D applications that are Linux compatible are Lightwave, Modo and Blender. Can't afford the first two and I've said my peace on the last one.
It is possible for me to changed that but I haven't. At first Windows 10 behaved the way it always had - undating in the background and giving me notice that in 1 day or 2 days computer will reboot but it has been skipping those notices of reboot lately. I'm not sure if that's intentional or a a bug.
Or you could do what many of us have done, keep your Win7 computer offline and update manually. Then it's only "Goodbye Daz Connect and DRM".
I use Linux as an internet computer. If Daz ever becomes Linux compatible, it's goodbye, Microsoft.
...but to load new content into the DIM database even via USB drive means I have to still deal with the potential security risk, or I just never purchase any new content/plugins ever again.. As none of my systems are ever going to have 10 on them, I'd be stuck with the same dilemma no matter what.
Also I would get no notification of updates to content, plugins, or the core application and would not be able to install beta versions to test new features as those are only a direct DIM DL/install.
I really wish Daz would consider supporting Linux. Open source software does. With the route Apple is taking, MACs are no longer the "graphics workhorses" they once were (and they're still too bloody expensive). Seems their interest is shifting more towards the mobile world.
I know you're budget-constrained, so I don't know how well this would work for you.
I've been using DIM on a lapttop to download to a usb drive at a wifi hotspot. Then I take the lot home and plug the laptop into my home network and use a smart copy utility (syncbackSE from 2brightsparks) to copy the data to my off-line windows 7 system. The laptop is configured to NEVER look for updates. Then I use DIM on the Win7 system for installs.
So far, no problems.
Linux has the same update problems as Windows and osX. I've used them, they are no different.
No. When you turn automatic updates off in Linux, they stay off. No more problems, no constant reminders and prompts, no unwanted programs installed. My Linux computer has only three programs on it: The Linux OS, Firefox, and anti-malware.
I don't know which Linux distribution you have, I have Ubuntu, and it is vastly different than Windows and OSX, especially where user privacy is concerned.
I'm a computer programmer and system administrator by degree and job title but that hardly makes me omnipresent and allknowing, that said, however, updates stay off in Windows too, if you turn them off. That's not to say a bug might turn them on but then I could turn the updates right back off. That's true of any OS.
Given a choice, I'd be less comfortable with old versions of Linux (I started with FreeBSD 0.94 and up and up at least a dozen different types of Linux distributions) than updated versions of Windows. If you hear more of Windows security flaws it's it because over 90% of the PCs have it. If the 1% of Linux consumer PCs were dominating the news with multiple security flaws there would be cause for concern. There is a place were Linux and UNIX variants do dominate the news because of security flaws and that's on corporate servers but it's hardly pointed out those are Linux & UNIX variant servers. It's not all new features or usage and crash collection data these companies are adding with these patches - there are important bug fixes and security patches. I've administered as part of my job UNIX servers that I kept running for over 5 years without a reboot or a patch that required rebooting but those machines were not on a external network - you definately would not want a machine like that on a public network.
Windows browsers, particularly IE11 have much robuster security than Google Chrome or Firefox. Windows Edge though is a crash prone memory hogging mess, however IE 11 is still available for Windows 10. That's just a fact. As a lifelong UNIX programmer I might wish that weren't true but it is.