Windows 8 > Windows 10
anneghostghost
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Hi,
Does anyone have found issues using Windows 10 and IRAY/nvidia cards?
I love my Windows 8 , does it worth to update? I don't want to take risks.
I use i7/gtx980
ty!
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I'd like an answer to. Has MS released an SR1 yet?
I have an AMD/GTX 960 and have no issues with Windows 10. I believe there were issues but have since been taken care of.
ty! anyone else????
If you are going to upgrade to Windows 10, do yourself a favor and install it clean.
I have to agree, here. I have a Nividia card and Windows 10 that I did a clean install and have not had any issues. The latest nvidia card driver update made my mouse jumpy, but I just rolled back to the earlier driver and all is fine. It is not a Windows 10 issue.
Thanks!
Btw, my pc is really hot while rendering, 90C! Anyone noticed a temperature change after the update? Maybe windows 10 is heavier?
Can anyone send me a link for the gtx 980/windows 10 driver? I can't find it.
Is that the GPU or CPU? If it's the CPU, touch the heatsink while rendering, to make sure it is not an incorrect reading, and if you have to pull your finger back then yes, you have an issue. Check that the CPU fan is in good working order and that your PC case has good circulation.
http://www.geforce.com/drivers
I don't know if that would work. I don't have experience with water cooling. I looked into the specs on your CPU and it is rated at 72C. 90C is definitely way too high. I would ask, or have it checked, by the people who sold it to you.
Or wait for someone who has experience with Intel CPUs to chime in.
OK, I found that temp to be a norm for that Intel CPU.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Cinema4D/comments/3ins1b/hardware_do_i_need_a_thirdparty_cpu_cooler_for/
I guess going with water cooling should help you lower the temp. A better third party air cooler might, also, do the trick.
Back when I was using tower systems, I got a water-cooling setup, and I can tell you that they do work! (Since I pretty much live "on the road" these days, I have switched to laptops. But if I ever go the "big-box" route again, any system I build will definitely be water cooled!)
Thank you so much!
I would not upgrade a machine from windows 8 to 10. I tend to favor keeping the os the machine shipped with. This will ensure you have the best drivers and software to run your machine's devices. Os 10 will not improve the speed of your system and may cause you unforseen problems.
I've upgrades 2 computers to Windows 10. The first was from Win 7 and the second was from win 8. Both upgraded just fine. I was really happy with how seemless it went. When i originally got Win 8 they had to do all sorts of patching on my work laptop to get my remote access to work. For 10? they didn't have to do a darn thing. The only issue I had was the win 8 desktop ended up with borked sound that was a simple driver update to fix. Of all the upgrades iv'e done over the years this one was by far the smoothest.
Absolutely no problems with any of the desktops or laptops both from 7 and 8. Some are running antiquated apps. Absolutely everything works perfectly including all the drivers.
There were potential issues if you used more than one Nvidia card - no idea if that is still the case.
Well, not that I like Microsoft products, in that I was a Microsoft Certified Engineer and have over twelve years experience with server builds and desktop support, and experienced many headaches with all versions of the software. I found many things about Microsoft OS that I liked and I must say that I do like Windows 10. I favor MAC OS and have a few of those computers as well, but in order to get IRAY, I had to build a Windows PC. I installed Windows 10 on my newly built custom PC and I really like the interface. I have had no problems and my PC runs fast. It is a little slow in booting because I have a RAID Array (multiple disks for redundancy) due to those disks and interface have a "are you all here and are you all O.K.?". Once booted, I find the OS to work very fast. I have turned off all of the Microsoft "look at me and see what I am doing" functions. You can do this with Windows 10 Professional, and that is the version I would recommend. Windows 10 has many good things about it such as a native built in email client, easy categorizing of installed apps among other things. The only problem that I had is with the latest Nividia card driver which made my mouse jumpy and this has been experienced by many according to many Internet forums, but that is a Nividia problem. I just rolled back to the prior driver and all is O.K. I would not be afraid of going with Windows 10, but you should be careful about making that decision if you have an older PC or a laptop. You definitely should have a beefier computer hardware selection, not just for Windows 10, but for IRAY (if you use it). It is just like everything else in the technical world....get new and more sufficticated software, you also need to get a more sufficticated Hardware platform.
I have windows 7 on my laptop and qualify for the free 10 upgrade, is there anyway to d/l and save it to a usb drive to install at a later date, or if you click on the popup for the update does it automatically start installing? I will be installing Windows 10 home 64 bit on my new build but can't decide if I should go for the upgrade on my laptop, but want to save the free upgrade for a later time in case I do decide to upgrade it after the free period expires.
I believe that it will download the software and you can install it later. At least that was what I originally was going to do before I built my PC and purchased the Windows 10 software. I got the free upgrade and it downloaded to my PC where I could install it later. I am pretty sure that you could do that with a flash drive, or at least copy the download from the pc to the flash drive. I did not go this route because I did not want an upgrade product or mess with their activation key solution by using your windows 7 or 8 key. I did not want any of their possible glitches, later if I had to reinstall and I do not like upgrades. I wanted a newer pc and a beefier one for my DAZ Iray and I wanted the purchsed disk with the key that came with it. In this way, I know if and when I need to rebuild my software, it will be very easy and none of the trailing garbage that upgrades leave behind will be left on my disks that can sometimes cause issues. Clean installs, in my opinion, are the only way to go.
I recommend springing for Windows 10 Professional...look at the differences on the Microsoft site. You will have better control to what Microsoft can spy on. Remember, the free upgrade will end in March sometime.

I would want a clean install for sure, so I assumed that once I did the upgrade and got the key I could wipe the hard disk and then do a clean install of 10 from the USB..could that be possible to do ?
Edit: also I heard there was going to be an update to 10 called "Redstone" in the next coming months which will hopefully address some of the privacy issues of windows 10
In response to some comments about wanting a beefier set of hardware for windows 10, it actually seems lighter and more forgiving than 8 on older hardware. In some weak hardware cases 10 runs much better than 8 or 8.1 and about even with 7.
On the other hand, most of us are doing the kind of work that one can never have enough power in our hardware. And like most versions of windows it has a habit of stretching to make use of more resources if you don't trim it back. The usual culprits, little enhancement options that look nice but use resources and will likely be on by default if installed on a moderately capable system. From what I hear the option to match colors to your desktop wallpaper is the biggest offender. May be small but sometimes you like to free up as much as you can.Perfect, I will format my hard drive and go to windows 10. I'm going to install a sealed watercooling as well to drop my i7 90C temperature. All this effort to use iray.
I simply rendered 2 scenes, including the benchmark scene from SickleYield when I saw the 90C! I immediatelly stopped the scene but suddenly everything just freezes and I tried to restart. Computer powers on and then immediately turns off............windows 8 disappeared!
This hot temp actually crashed my windows 8 and now its totally corrupted. I can't even repair my windows! It's a brand new PC and it was quite expensive! I'm going to format and install windows 10 now. I was afraid to find a problem with the nvidia drivers though.
This is a link to a site that has the instructions I followed. http://www.howtogeek.com/224342/how-to-clean-install-windows-10/
I have an I7 4790K with watercooling and the processor running at 4.4GHz at 100 Percent for all 4 Physical cores rendering in Carrara, the temp of the cores normally never gets above 40C. I have run it for 48 Hrs once rendering an animation and the temp never got above 45C using Hardware monitor for the temps.
I also have 7 Case Fans due to the dual ATI R7 250 1Gb video cards for LUX Core rendering.
That sounds like a major cooling problem. With a correctly functioning OEM air cooling fan, you should NOT see that kind of heat build up that fast. That sounds like the fan wasn't properly installed (thermal paste/phasechange pad not properly seated) or that the CPU itself has an issue (not correctly contacting the heat spreader).
Most motherboards have CPU temperature monitoring in the BIOS these days. Make sure you aren't overclocked. Set all BIOS CPU settings back to default in the BIOS. Check your idle temps in the bios. If it's running over 40C just idling in the BIOS, something isn't right.
Also check the BIOS (if it has it) the voltage readings. If your Power Supply is flakey, you may be putting too much voltage through the CPU, which will increase temps across the board rapidly.
If a CPU overheat crashed your HDD (i.e., windows 8 vanished) then your motherboard and power supply are both suspect.
Personally, at that point, I'd be returning the CPU, Power Supply and Motherboard for replacment if they are still in warranty....if not, I'd be building a new system.
Please post your system specs. (i.e., model names & numbers for CPU, Motherboard, Power Supply, Graphics card, etc.)
I jumped from Windows XP to Win 7 (only a short while on 7) to Win 10. Win 10 is not bad but one thing I really don't like at all is that the START button many times kind of stuck when I want to shut down. When I then right-click and shut down that way, I have problems when login the next time. When logging back, at times a menu pops up with 'start up and cortana critical error' and at other times the screen doesn't open up correctly. On internet search noticed it's a win 10 problem!
What I now try to do to overcome this problem with shut down/login, is to rather restart when the start button doesn't want to work, instead of normal shut down. After the system has restarted, then the start button is normal again and I logoff the normal way. But this is really annoying to say the least! Can't understand why this nonsense is only at times.
I guess my initial instincts were correct. I was desuaded when I found several post claiming that high temp as normal. I use AMDs for years, since the mid 90s, so I wasn't sure.
It isn't that a temp that high is indicative of a problem. But a sustained temperature that high is. For a GPU that's not unusual, while under load. But for a CPU, that's dangerzone. Most motherboards that have thermal protection in the BIOS, the cutoff temp is usually 85C. That's when the motherboard will turn off the computer rather than risk the CPU overheating.
Yes, I understand all that. My point is that I was getting conflicting info from people who obviously comment but I believe now have no idea what they are talking about.
He noticed the temp when he rendered, I don't believe his CPU was running that hot under less load, at least that is what I get from his posts.
His HD is corrupt now and it was because of the hot temps when he rendered, that much is clear. I have had my HDD data corrupted because of an overheating CPU.