this character appears in the paige hair promos, any help would be apreciate it

background said:

I think one of the things which might put PA's off doing 1920-1960's items is that quite a lot of research is required to get things right. I know from my model building outside of 3D that finding accurate clear photographs or drawings is time consuming and difficult. It can also be expensive if you need to buy books. There is always some detail which is overlooked, but you can bet one of your customers, or potential customers, has that exact photo or drawing which shows whatever you missed. For Bettie Pgae though I would think there are enough pictures and film of her for someone to make a close replica, not sure if they would be in colour though? 

Sorry, I did not mean historically correct. Looking at Eisner's and Rockwell's works, I am sure they used some liberties and shortcuts to give the illustion of being period correcct.

Cheers

memcneil70 said:

I am confused. The span of the 1920s to 1960s (I am assuming you didn't mean to exclude the 1950s) have been covered pretty thoroughly by DAZ artists, like Predatron. I looked at my collection of 20th Century clothing and it is huge, even if I ignore the Edwardian period and the 1970s to 1990s. Many are DAZ+ and go back to V4/M4 but I still use them today on current characters and new PAs are producing period outfits still.

And architecture has been done in many areas, with some gaps of small town centers, but Collective 3D has that period of housing really well done.

Hair is fairly well covered if you want glamour. Don't ignore an older model, convert it if needed and use shaders appropriate for the type of hair.

Makeup is possibly the one area that is lacking. We have a slew of modern, fantasy, and sci-fi makeups, but except for the three full makeups that came out with Bonnie 8.1 I don't think we have a 1920/30s era makeup kit? Not sure if there is any that really represent the actual palette of the 1940s or 1950s either?

Cars are to some degree, see DAZ+. I am not sure about motorcycles (not that knowledgeble but I have one that looks to be around 1920/30ish). Bicycles not so good. I have seen discussions in the forums about the design of both of those to know how little I know about these to offer an opinion.

For the Bettie Page style, pull up every 'The Girl' release (or other similar females) and you will find outfits that match her style. Also there are the artists who specialize in sexy lingerie like xtrart-3d and others. Not my thing, but I would check out the folks who moved over from Renderosity. I had an uncle who took girlie photos of this type in the 1940s/1950s and as a little girl stayed over in rooms decorated in mounted images he had taken.

For props, well my runtime is littered with 20th century props, some accurate, some not so much, by artists who make sets. But a couple who are accurate are SloshWerks and maclean. Check out your own sets to see what you have, it is amazing some days what I find tucked into an environment.

I just did a quick snap-shot of some of the artists whom I know cover North America during this period. There are others. The fun is in the finding for yourself. I know I have gone through the PAs a number of times, one by one, looking at each store. Putting some items on wishlist that I later picked up. But I became familiar with what their style is, what they offer generally. And if it was something I might use.

Thanks for the reply. I left out the 1950s by mistake. Currently having some health issues. I re-edited and included 1950s. I will check out your leads.

Cheers

I think one of the things which might put PA's off doing 1920-1960's items is that quite a lot of research is required to get things right. I know from my model building outside of 3D that finding accurate clear photographs or drawings is time consuming and difficult. It can also be expensive if you need to buy books. There is always some detail which is overlooked, but you can bet one of your customers, or potential customers, has that exact photo or drawing which shows whatever you missed. For Bettie Pgae though I would think there are enough pictures and film of her for someone to make a close replica, not sure if they would be in colour though? 

I am confused. The span of the 1920s to 1960s (I am assuming you didn't mean to exclude the 1950s) have been covered pretty thoroughly by DAZ artists, like Predatron. I looked at my collection of 20th Century clothing and it is huge, even if I ignore the Edwardian period and the 1970s to 1990s. Many are DAZ+ and go back to V4/M4 but I still use them today on current characters and new PAs are producing period outfits still.

And architecture has been done in many areas, with some gaps of small town centers, but Collective 3D has that period of housing really well done.

Hair is fairly well covered if you want glamour. Don't ignore an older model, convert it if needed and use shaders appropriate for the type of hair.

Makeup is possibly the one area that is lacking. We have a slew of modern, fantasy, and sci-fi makeups, but except for the three full makeups that came out with Bonnie 8.1 I don't think we have a 1920/30s era makeup kit? Not sure if there is any that really represent the actual palette of the 1940s or 1950s either?

Cars are to some degree, see DAZ+. I am not sure about motorcycles (not that knowledgeble but I have one that looks to be around 1920/30ish). Bicycles not so good. I have seen discussions in the forums about the design of both of those to know how little I know about these to offer an opinion.

For the Bettie Page style, pull up every 'The Girl' release (or other similar females) and you will find outfits that match her style. Also there are the artists who specialize in sexy lingerie like xtrart-3d and others. Not my thing, but I would check out the folks who moved over from Renderosity. I had an uncle who took girlie photos of this type in the 1940s/1950s and as a little girl stayed over in rooms decorated in mounted images he had taken.

For props, well my runtime is littered with 20th century props, some accurate, some not so much, by artists who make sets. But a couple who are accurate are SloshWerks and maclean. Check out your own sets to see what you have, it is amazing some days what I find tucked into an environment.

I just did a quick snap-shot of some of the artists whom I know cover North America during this period. There are others. The fun is in the finding for yourself. I know I have gone through the PAs a number of times, one by one, looking at each store. Putting some items on wishlist that I later picked up. But I became familiar with what their style is, what they offer generally. And if it was something I might use.

I would like to see more period correct clothing, props, cars, planes, buildings, etc for the 1920s, 1930s, 1940s, 1950s  and 1960s era of North America.

I am thinking of Norman Rockwell, Wil Eisner, Bettie Page and other artists of that era. 

Yeah I know, Bettie was not an illustrator like Rockwell or Eisner but she is an icon. 

Sadly I find this is the one area that DAZ developers have overlooked.

Riesco said:

HID Paige for Genesis 9

https://www.daz3d.com/hid-paige-for-genesis-9
Is insiperd in Alexandra Daddario.

 Agreed. Paige was her character's name in Hall Pass. 

https://www.daz3d.com/hid-paige-for-genesis-9
Is insiperd in Alexandra Daddario.

nDelphi said:

Haruchai said:

Paige by Kadaj777 at Renderosity/RenderHub - Denise Richards

This is definitely a Denis Richards lookalike.

Based on the fact that 'Denise Richards' is in the tags on the artist's DeviantArt picture of the character, I have to agree ;)  (Hi Tia!) 

Haruchai said:

Paige by Kadaj777 at Renderosity/RenderHub - Denise Richards

ChangelingChick said:

Looks more like Elle Fanning to me. I don't see Denise Richards at all.

For me 100% Denise Richards. Especially if you see the Genesis 9 Version. And: Paige is the name of Denise Richards in the Movie "Valentine". 

Paige by Kadaj777 at Renderosity/RenderHub - Denise Richards

https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/685381/mb-bettie-hd-for-genesis-9-feminine-has-duplicate-formulas

Just wanted to add that MB Bettie also has the duplicate formula issue. And given the previous comment, it looks like it's related to having more than one MB character. So, since I've reached my quota, I'll just avoid buying their stuff in the future. 

MB_Bettie_facs_bs_EyeBlinkR.dsf - In notepad replace Ines with Bettie

MB_Bettie_facs_bs_EyeBlinkL.dsf - In notepad replace Ines with Bettie

MB_Bettie_body_cbs_thigh_z90n_r.dsf - In notepad replace Carmel with Bettie

MB_Bettie_body_cbs_head_x25p.dsf - In notepad replace Carmel with Bettie

MB_Bettie_body_cbs_thigh_z90n_l.dsf- In notepad replace Carmel with Bettie

I have been begging AprilYSH to update Sheridsan hair for years.  Best Bettie Page style hair on the market.

Just created a new front page list for History Degree Productions at RenderHub. Here's the list so far.

HDP Alice - Milla Jovovich
HDP America - Xochitl Gomez
HDP Andi - Peyton Elizabeth Lee
HDP Belle - Emma Watson
HDP Clara - Mackenzie Foy
HDP Dora - Isabella Merced
HDP Elle - Joey King
HDP Ellie - Bella Ramsey
HDP Emily - Darby Camp
HDP Hannah - Odeya Rush
HDP Jane - Millie Bobby Brown
HDP Kate - Hailee Steinfeld
HDP Kamala - Iman Vellani
HDP Maria - Rachel Zegler
HDP Maxine - Sadie Sink
HDP Maya - Sabrina Carpenter
HDP Nellie - Francesca Capaldi
HDP Paige - Olivia Rodrigo
HDP Phoebe - McKenna Grace
HDP Poki - Imame Anys/Pokimane (YouTube)
HDP Regan - Millicent Simmonds
HDP Reggie - Julia Butters
HDP Rocky - Zendaya
HDP Sabrina - Kiernan Shipka
HDP Shelly - Shelby Church (YouTube)
HDP Wendy - Ever Anderson

HDP Halie - Original Character
HDP Jennifer - Original Character

Example render of Paige converted to G9

Any tips on posing eyes?

Regular translate dials for Left and Right eyes also rotates eyes, making it very hard to pose eyes.

Below is my attempt to pose eyes on Paige:

https://www.daz3d.com/paige-character-hair-and-expressions-for-genesis-8-females

Without changes, eyes are placed too deep in the head and has improper size.

ORPHAN CHARACTERS (G3) not on the Masterlists. From Part 2 of this thread set, pages 51-100.

These are G3 look-a-likes. The previous list should all be G8.

Carrie Fisher (Actress) SW Princess Leia Slave Bundle for V4G3F
    by Wartech (Store: FoRender)
    Found by (Diabola, Nov 2019)
    Known for: Star Wars films    

Bettie Page (NSFW) Bettie Page G3F shaping preset
    by bucyjoe (FREE RO .com/freestuff/items/85416)
    Found by (Haruchai, Jul 2020)
    Known for: Queen of Pinups 1950s; as The Notorious Bettie Page (also the title of a 2005 film staring Gretchen Mol)
    NOTE: Her pinups included nudes and bondage themes.

Rhona Mitra (Actress) Rune 7
    by Daz Originals (Store: DAZ)
    Found by (Hylas, Jul 2020)
    Known for: Doomsday (2008); Underworld: Rise of the Lycans (2009)
    NOTE: The post by Hylas has images of the actress with a sword which she used on the film, Underworlds.

Vin Diesel (Actor) Alexander for Kimo 7
    by Darwins Mishap(s) (Store: Daz)
    Found by (PerttiA, Aug 2020)
    Known for: Fast and Furious Films
    NOTE: Requires purchase of Kimo 7 (Store: DAZ).  Reference photo ... https://masterherald.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/vin-diesel.jpg