It still isn't clear what you are doing, and you didn't say how you were installing. Downloads, applications, and content can all have different locations - though with Daz Central you will set only a master folder that holds each. In addition, content installed through Daz Studio itself has another possible location (by default in your documents folder, which will be on C: if you haven't moved it).

If you copy and paste into the right folders it works..If you use dimm or central you have to adjust the paths to point to the DAZ root folders in Documents and DAZ Main folder it is in the readme...If you dont have the last zip file I will re-share the folder with you..Mac users need to re-test please...

PerttiA said:

Rendering 2-3 hours with an RTX 2060... Way too long... If the scene fits in your VRAM, it should render normal scenes in less than an hour. 2-3 hours means it is rendering on CPU which is about 20+ times slower.
The thumb rule about Iray is one should have RAM three times more than VRAM. In your case you have 6GB's of VRAM, which isn't much for Iray but your computer would also run way better if you had 32GB's of RAM (which I consider minimum nowadays)

2-3 hours is the max for a complex scene with multiple lights and something like UltraScenery. Simpler renders take much shorter. But I'll look into more RAM, thank you.

Didn't find anything obvious as the cause for not being able to connect to the database. You didn't change the path in "CMS Cluster Directory" in Content Directory Manager?
Did any updates to Windows and/or the antivirus program happen at same time when you were making changes to DS?

No, I didn't change anything, and there were no updates as far as I can tell. I have a vague notion that checking the download paths in DC might have caused that, but no clear indication why it would do it.

There is a database log as well, it's located in "C.\Users\xxxxx\AppData\Roaming\Daz 3D\cms\ContentCluster\dblog.txt"
When DS and DAZ Central is not running, open that logfile, delete everything in there and save when asked. Open DS and the dblog.txt should tell what's wrong.

Well... After I cleaned the log (I probably should have saved what was there before I deleted it) it remained empty. The database error still pops up on the startup of the DS, but the log is empty.

The log file contains the following lines:
2022-07-18 18:53:33.726 [INFO] :: Loading Layout: C:/Users/XXX/AppData/Roaming/DAZ 3D/Studio4/layout.dsx
2022-07-18 18:53:33.732 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\cloud\dzcloudtasknotifier.cpp(178): Unexpected exception in contentGetBySubdir: Unable to connect to the database, can not quote
2022-07-18 18:53:33.747 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\cloud\dzcloudtasknotifier.cpp(178): Unexpected exception in contentGetBySubdir: Unable to connect to the database, can not quote
2022-07-18 18:53:33.748 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\cloud\dzcloudtasknotifier.cpp(178): Unexpected exception in contentGetBySubdir: Unable to connect to the database, can not quote
2022-07-18 18:53:33.961 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\cloud\dzcloudtasknotifier.cpp(178): Unexpected exception in contentGetByRelativePath: Unable to connect to the database, can not quote
2022-07-18 18:53:34.663 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\cloud\dzcloudtasknotifier.cpp(178): Unexpected exception in CloudFIle::lookupFromDb: Unable to connect to the database
2022-07-18 18:53:34.670 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\cloud\dzcloudtasknotifier.cpp(178): Unexpected exception in needMigrate: Unable to connect to the database, can not quote
2022-07-18 18:53:34.671 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\cloud\dzcloudtasknotifier.cpp(178): Unexpected exception in runNextTask-runTask: Unable to connect to the database
2022-07-18 18:53:34.859 [INFO] :: Migration failed.
2022-07-18 18:53:34.969 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\cloud\dzcloudtasknotifier.cpp(178): Unexpected exception in contentFilterPathsToCloudInstalledContent: Unable to connect to the database
2022-07-18 18:53:34.974 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\cloud\dzcloudtasknotifier.cpp(178): Unexpected exception in contentFilterPathsToCloudInstalledContent: Unable to connect to the database
2022-07-18 18:53:35.009 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\cloud\dzcloudtasknotifier.cpp(178): Unexpected exception in contentGetByRelativePath: Unable to connect to the database, can not quote
2022-07-18 18:53:37.278 [WARNING] :: A valid PostgreSQL CMS connection could not be established.  Several DAZ Studio features that require a valid PostgreSQL CMS connection, such as context aware content views and loading content installed using the Daz Connect service, will not be available.  Check your network, anti-virus, and firewall settings for conflicts.

Now, here's a question. With all the issues piling up (and the initial matter of the 101 poses still unresolved), would it make more sense to wipe the slate clean and reinstall everything? (it might take more of my time, but it should save yours)

And a bonus question: is there a clear list of the steps to take in the right order for the error-free instal and of everything (folders etc.) that needs to be purged before the reinstal?

I just discovered Space Trading Station: Central a couple of days ago via the Top Deals You Can't Miss! special.  How could I have missed such a great looking sci-fi product.  It's mine now.

Joe

(Retired math guy and full-time hobbyist now)

Rendering 2-3 hours with an RTX 2060... Way too long... If the scene fits in your VRAM, it should render normal scenes in less than an hour. 2-3 hours means it is rendering on CPU which is about 20+ times slower.
The thumb rule about Iray is one should have RAM three times more than VRAM. In your case you have 6GB's of VRAM, which isn't much for Iray but your computer would also run way better if you had 32GB's of RAM (which I consider minimum nowadays)

Didn't find anything obvious as the cause for not being able to connect to the database. You didn't change the path in "CMS Cluster Directory" in Content Directory Manager?
Did any updates to Windows and/or the antivirus program happen at same time when you were making changes to DS?

There is a database log as well, it's located in "C.\Users\xxxxx\AppData\Roaming\Daz 3D\cms\ContentCluster\dblog.txt"
When DS and DAZ Central is not running, open that logfile, delete everything in there and save when asked. Open DS and the dblog.txt should tell what's wrong.

PerttiA said:

Restarting the computer, closes all the applications that are running, therefore it also ensures there are no other instance of the database running/closing when you try to open DS - This has occasionally been a problem, opening DS while the database is shutting down after DAZ Central ot DIM has been used.

Still at work for about an hour, but two things did immediately jump out... Although they are not the reason for morphs or the database not working, they will have an effect on how DS in general is working and how responsive it is.
1. You have just 16GB's of RAM, out of which just 8.2GB's is available at the time you start DS (way too little)
2. Your GPU drivers are too old for the version of DS you are using, DS says in the log "Please update your display driver (current version 456.71) (www.nvidia.com) to at least 471.41"

I'll look at the log more closely when I get home.

Thank you for having a look. I appreciate your help.

I had stuff running in the background when I opened DS, since I knew I wouldn't be actually using it. It's not to say that I couldn't use more RAM in general (I might have some spare somewhere), but I'm not too concerned, seeing as so far, DS is working an acceptable speed (no lags, etc.) and the renders are 2-3h long max. Often even faster if it's not something complex. Though, I'm sure, in the future I'll want more RAM either way. What's the optimal amount? What's the recommended minimum?

And drivers are now updated, thank you for the prompt (I'm bad like that).

Restarting the computer, closes all the applications that are running, therefore it also ensures there are no other instance of the database running/closing when you try to open DS - This has occasionally been a problem, opening DS while the database is shutting down after DAZ Central ot DIM has been used.

Still at work for about an hour, but two things did immediately jump out... Although they are not the reason for morphs or the database not working, they will have an effect on how DS in general is working and how responsive it is.
1. You have just 16GB's of RAM, out of which just 8.2GB's is available at the time you start DS (way too little)
2. Your GPU drivers are too old for the version of DS you are using, DS says in the log "Please update your display driver (current version 456.71) (www.nvidia.com) to at least 471.41"

I'll look at the log more closely when I get home.

How are you installing? DIM first appeared about ten years ago, but it had to be configured manually to install to a different folder. Now it is a snap to configure. DAZ Central, not so much, but apparently can be done. Connect just needs a path.

For existing content, you can tell Studio where to look with the Content Directory Manager, adding folders as you wish. You can also move the content to the same relative position, or make more libraries as it suits you. There are ways.

PerttiA said:

Ok, whatever that's installed with DAZ connect, will be in those "Cloud" folders in folders named "1_XXXXX", the X's are the SKU number of those products.
you can check which products they are, to reinstall them with DAZ Central if they have stopped working.

I would even go as far as changing the name of the existing "Cloud" folders to "No_Cloud" and inside DS use the "Refresh Database", which should refresh the thumbnails for the products as it now sees them in "D:\My DAZ 3D Library\Runtime\Support" instead of the "Cloud" folders.

I disagree with Richard, even when having the same folder names would work (when everything is done right), it makes it so much more difficult to fix when things were not correct, especially when you are doing it blindfolded.

Double check that DAZ Central is using the correct path "D:\My DAZ 3D Library" to install content

Yes, as far as I can tell, DAZ Central is using the correct path, though it had to be set up via DIM for some some reason ("paths managed by DIM") and setting up a path through DC causes it to freeze to "no response".

I'm seriously at a loss. Both 101 Expressions sets were installed at the same time as everything else (after the move to the external drive), and since everything else is working correctly (if there were issues with the paths, wouldn't more content or all content be affected?), I'm not sure why this specific product isn't.

derkmann77_c34344e6f3 said:

Is there a way to manually download the Daz to Blender bridge? Because I tried to use Daz Central and it installs the file and script into Daz Studio, but nothing goes to Blender.

Is there supposed to be a script that is needed for Blender? Daz Central does not download the zip file needed for Blender. Am I missing something?

You need to install and activate the Blender plugin.  You can find instructions / tutorials on how to do this in multiple formats:

• Forums: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/572806/official-daztoblender-bridge-2022-what-s-new-and-how-to-use-it/p1
• Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2os8Ge-HWlQ
• Github: https://github.com/daz3d/DazToBlender#3-how-to-install
• FAQ: https://www.daz3d.com/blender-bridge#faq

mimameior said:

I had this hanging install issue and tried multiple suggestions from the forum and other sites with no success.  Eventually I found that closing Daz Central when it stuck, reopening and clicking install permitted it to progress the installation. A couple of times and a long time later Daz Studio installed.

Thank you. Idiotic software, but this solved it for me.

Ellessarr said:

bitpart said:

If I hide some polygons， and set subdivision level to 1，

the problem will occur as attachment 3.

Any suggestions? thanks!

i've already reported this to david, this have something to do with the new system to make subdivision, something wrong is happening which breaks the mesh if you cut it into pieces when using subdivisions, the old way did not have this issue but only allowed subdivison up to level 1 the new one allow to any level but you can get this issue, david told which he gonna look at this. 

@bitpart @ellesarr

This was actually fixed in June and merged into both the main Daz repository and David's fork.  For this bugfix and several other bugfixes and updates, please download and install the latest version from the main Daz github repository: https://github.com/daz3d/DazToUnreal/releases

This latest release will be pushed to Daz Central / DIM soon.

Ok, whatever that's installed with DAZ connect, will be in those "Cloud" folders in folders named "1_XXXXX", the X's are the SKU number of those products.
you can check which products they are, to reinstall them with DAZ Central if they have stopped working.

I would even go as far as changing the name of the existing "Cloud" folders to "No_Cloud" and inside DS use the "Refresh Database", which should refresh the thumbnails for the products as it now sees them in "D:\My DAZ 3D Library\Runtime\Support" instead of the "Cloud" folders.

I disagree with Richard, even when having the same folder names would work (when everything is done right), it makes it so much more difficult to fix when things were not correct, especially when you are doing it blindfolded.

Double check that DAZ Central is using the correct path "D:\My DAZ 3D Library" to install content

Is there a way to manually download the Daz to Blender bridge? Because I tried to use Daz Central and it installs the file and script into Daz Studio, but nothing goes to Blender.

Is there supposed to be a script that is needed for Blender? Daz Central does not download the zip file needed for Blender. Am I missing something?

First of all, I wanted to thank you so much for taking your time to help me. I really appreciate it, because after a few months of using DAZ, I still feel like I'm mostly walking blindly around, stumbling upon issues with no good manual at hand. 

Reinstallation didn't help, because (most likely) you have your content installed twice at least some of it. Once by DAZ Central and the second time by DAZ Connect within DS to a completely different location and any DAZ Connect installed content steals priority over the other installation methods, even in cases when the DAZ Connect installed content is corrupted (not unusual) and the other ones would be working.

The default installation/start up process for DS and content is inherently botched and at no point is the user warned about the pitfalls... It's so frustrating... 

Indeed. When I first started, the walkthrough prompted me to download and use Daz Studio while being logged into DS was a default option. Moving my content to an external drive was a nightmare too (though done prior to getting the 101 EL, so I don't think it interfered).

If one uses external installers (DAZ Central, DAZ Install Manager (DIM) or manual installation) for the content, one should never, ever log in to DS or let DS contact DAZ servers.

Stop logging in to DS and set your startup preferences as in the attachment
In SmartContent, uninstall everything - This will remove the DAZ Connect installed content (that's been installed twice)

Close DS and start it again, did your morphs start working again?

I set up the startup preferences as you indicated, but I can't seem to find an option to delete anything in the Smart Content. When I right click on the content, I only get an install option (I attached the screenshot). I even clicked on it to check if there's an uninstall option hiding there, but no, only a prompt to log in.

joanna said:

PerttiA said:

Closing and opening would have added information about your system and settings, but to me it looks like there is a problem with your content libraries.

How do you install your content and do you log in to DS?

I install the content through Daz Central onto an external hard drive, and DS is automatically logged in. I suppose I could try unistalling and reinstalling those products in case there was a download glitch or something.

Edit: reinstalling did not help.

Reinstallation didn't help, because (most likely) you have your content installed twice at least some of it. Once by DAZ Central and the second time by DAZ Connect within DS to a completely different location and any DAZ Connect installed content steals priority over the other installation methods, even in cases when the DAZ Connect installed content is corrupted (not unusual) and the other ones would be working.

The default installation/start up process for DS and content is inherently botched and at no point is the user warned about the pitfalls... It's so frustrating... 

If one uses external installers (DAZ Central, DAZ Install Manager (DIM) or manual installation) for the content, one should never, ever log in to DS or let DS contact DAZ servers.

Stop logging in to DS and set your startup preferences as in the attachment
In SmartContent, uninstall everything - This will remove the DAZ Connect installed content (that's been installed twice)

Close DS and start it again, did your morphs start working again?

PerttiA said:

Closing and opening would have added information about your system and settings, but to me it looks like there is a problem with your content libraries.

How do you install your content and do you log in to DS?

I install the content through Daz Central onto an external hard drive, and DS is automatically logged in. I suppose I could try unistalling and reinstalling those products in case there was a download glitch or something.

Edit: reinstalling did not help.

Richard Haseltine said:

Others are able to uwe Central to install to a non-system drive. have you tried using Install Manager instead? https://www.daz3d.com/get_install_manager/

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I don't use central.. but you could install the program with it or dim on the C drive
Because unless they just made a major change... you can just drag the daz program forlder to another drive and make a shortcut to the exe. 
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While I have have backed up installers, I also have the daz folders back to at least 4.8 on another drive and they will run from there. 
I 4.20 on my C drive ... daz 12 is not on g or e which are data.. so I think it's on L and I do open it and run it when I have a big scene or project in 20 and just need to tweak a prop or something ... 
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In fact most new programs don't really care where they are.. 
My steam library  is on an external and I upgrade games at a friends house where they have fast unlimited net and then bring that external back and run off it or copy to other drives.  
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if everything is on the C drive just copy all that to the new drive (might need a transfer drive but all your links will be to the C drive
If you have data on othe drives just make sure they have the same drive letter if you move them to a new computer. 

Seven193 said:

If you installed the G8F starter essentials, it comes with a Jaw Out-In morph, which can give you an overbite.

The essentials also come with a Lip Top Up-Down morph which moves the upper lip only, showing the teeth.  But that moves the entire upper lip.  To only lift the middle part, you would probably have to use something like the Open Mouth Morph from Evelyn & Lynn.

 

it also has a Lip Bottom Up-Down too but not quite what i was after, all of those morphs move the lips in front of the teeth, i am trying to simulate a lip being moved *by* the teeth. 

the upper lip isn't a problem, it's relatively straightforward and doesn't need any change to the jaw alignment or proximity to the teeth, or the teeth themselves

the lower lip thing concerned me because i wasn't sure exactly what i should move or modify - e.g. do i simply move the lower jaw back to give me the overbite, or do i scale it back? do i angle the upper central teeth forward or move the whole upper teeth forward? etc. etc. - so, right now i have settled on a combination of:

- lower jaw slightly back

- all upper teeth tiny bit forward

- upper incisors longer and slightly angled forwards. 

- dent in lower lip when mouth is closed

it seems to work okay-ish.

daz central doesnt install daz? im trying to start on a new computer and the only way i could find the program is from daz central (didnt really use it on my old one) and after clicking install about 4 times it will get to 100% and nothing. any info or help?? daz central installed fine but the actual rendering program is nowhere to be found.

update: the trick was basically spamming the install button until it worked!