Hey @fixmypcmike - thanks for the suggestion.  Started poking around in that area and found the files after searching another thread with problems on Aged for M4: 

H:\My DAZ 3D Library\Runtime\Libraries\Pose\DAZ's Michael 4\Morph Injections\Aged for M4

Those files show up as installed (not greyed out) so should be able to use them.

Do the files show up in Content Library > Poser Formats > [content library name] > Pose > DAZ's Michael 4 > Morph Injections?

I purchased this

https://www.daz3d.com/dynamic-toga-and-skirt-for-michael-4

and when I try to apply the toga to figures other than Michael 4, the toga never changes shape or moves, no matter how I move the figure. If I change the pose of the figure the Toga stays in its original position. Does anyone know why? If I purchase M4 and use it with the toga, will the toga change position and shape when I use aniblocks on the M4 figure?

and of course Michael 4

If you go to Poser Formats>content folder isntalled to>Pose>Daz's Michael 4>Morph Injections there should be poses to INJect the morph data into the figure - though if you are using PowerLoader that shouldn't be needed.

I'm using Daz Install Manager, I don't know what Powerloader is. I have tried searching the forums and Google for freak 4 info to no avail.  I wrote a helpdesk ticket asking for step by step instructions.  I do see the path you noted above, and have tried playing around with "merge into scene / the orange + inj the freak 4", but nothing still happens.  If there are instructions someplace please point me to them!  I know how to follow instructions.  Once I learn how, great, but now I'm at the point of just pushing buttons and that's just a stupid waste of my time.  I've spent a couple hours on this needlessly when obviously there is a way to do it, but for some reason I cannot find that knowledge. 

So the morphs seem to be color coded.  The ones I am trying to use are orange so I tried using the orange inj guy... but there is a + one and a - one.  What does that mean and where do I find that knowledge?  I can't be the first person that is new and not know this stuff?

If you go to Poser Formats>content folder isntalled to>Pose>Daz's Michael 4>Morph Injections there should be poses to INJect the morph data into the figure - though if you are using PowerLoader that shouldn't be needed.

There is an IRAY superhero fabric pack that has the pattern but no logo.  You would also have to have a body suit and mask with the proper surfaces.  There are several free spiderman suits available for Michael 4.

At least it's not 2 years later, like Michael 4 was.

1 - very important that the mesh and bone/skeleton be attached within an animation group, not just a regular group.  That is why I had no tab for NLA clips for the original cyclopstritch.

Glad you mentioned that.  I know what a standard/regular group is but need to do some research for an animation group.  Gotta get my anim learn on. :)

 

This was an issue for me because I had created a custom figure that I was trying to save animations / NLA clips for.

If you have PhilW's video tutorials, the Intro series has a section on nonlinear anmation (NLA) clips on disk four.  The Daz rigged figures like V4, Genesis, Genesis 2 Male, etc. load in Carrara as a group containing the mesh and the bone skeleton.  If you use these basic Daz figures or Poser figures, they will load as animation groups.  These happen to be animation groups, not just groups.  Meaning what? 

Just groups.  If you load 2 primitive objects in a new scene, you can highlight them both, go to the Edit menu, and then Group them together.  You will see a group level containing the two objects that looks just like a Michael 4 group containing its mesh and its skeleton.  However, this just-a-group will have no tab for NLA and is not the same as a Michael 4 group for animation purposes.

Animation groups.  If I create or load a mesh as an object, and then load or construct a bone-skeleton as an object, I could group them.  If I group them from the EDIT menu, I will get just-a-group, so will have no NLA tab and will be limited for some animation functions, although I will still be able to attach the skeleton and pose the figure.  If instead, I select the mesh and the skeleton and go to the ANIMATION menu tab, I can select CREATE ANIMATION GROUP from the drop down menu.  This will create a group that looks the same in the lower right instances tray, but that has an NLA tab in the properties tray. 

My original problem - Way back when, I had modeled the cyclopstrich and created a skeleton and attached it within a just-a-group.  I had saved this just-a-group to the browser.  So, when I loaded my cyclopstritch group this month and tried to create NLA clips and to save its animations, it was not an animation group so I had trouble. 

Solved by loading the cyclopstritch group, ungrouping, then regrouping as an animation group.  I also had to do some minor editing of the weightmaps but not sure if that was related to ungroping and regrouping.

You won't have this issue if you animate standard Daz figures.

In principle, sure. In practive, it owuld be a lot of work - you'd probably need to redo the UVs (which tell DS how to wrap an iamge around a model) and/or us a distortion tool like the Liquify filter in Photoshop to rework the textures and/or use a projection painting application like 3D Coat to paint the textures onto the current UVs on the figure. I would, in the first intance, suggest having a look at RawArt's store - he has a lot of anthropoid characters, though I'm not sure if the Michael 4 generation sets are still available.

Since my https://www.daz3d.com/michael-4-for-genesis-2-male does not work any more because i cant apply any Gen Texture to the Gen2 prop, even if i save it as duf before.. (Any one knows why?)

i bought https://www.daz3d.com/legacy-uvs-for-genesis-3-michael-4

Here i have the problem that there are those well know stripes in the are between the body and the gen prop... at the older Product for g2m this problem was solved with seamcover props...

IS THIS NEW PRODUCT REALLY MEANT TO BE USED THAT WAY or am i doing something wrong? This whole situation make me angry i bought 2 products and both do not work correctly.. in my Eyes the old M4 horatio.. thomas stolz phönix textures are still one of the all time best...

i hope u understand my problem and situation

Can some1 give me any advise what i can do please?

I have sent you a PM.

Since my https://www.daz3d.com/michael-4-for-genesis-2-male does not work any more because i cant apply any Gen Texture to the Gen2 prop, even if i save it as duf before.. (Any one knows why?)

i bought https://www.daz3d.com/legacy-uvs-for-genesis-3-michael-4

Here i have the problem that there are those well know stripes in the are between the body and the gen prop... at the older Product for g2m this problem was solved with seamcover props...

IS THIS NEW PRODUCT REALLY MEANT TO BE USED THAT WAY or am i doing something wrong? This whole situation make me angry i bought 2 products and both do not work correctly.. in my Eyes the old M4 horatio.. thomas stolz phönix textures are still one of the all time best...

i hope u understand my problem and situation

Can some1 give me any advise what i can do please?

Here A partial list of thing you need to load via the DIM.

Product ID	Product Name
17031	Advanced Ambient Light
18516	Advanced Distant Light
17409	Advanced Spotlight
9799	Aged for M4
9799	Aged for M4 ExpCF
9799	Aged for M4 PowerLoader
9799	Aged for V4
9799	Aged for V4 ExpCF
9799	Aged for V4 PowerLoader
5980	Aiko 4 Base
5980	Aiko 4 Base PoserCF
5980	Aiko 4 Base StudioCF
5980	Aiko 4 PowerLoader
11970	Distinctive Features M4
10522	Distinctive Features V4
9658	F4 Creature Expansion
8070	Hiro 4 Base
8070	Hiro 4 Base PowerLoader
14811	Install Manager Default Filters
15390	keyMate for DAZ Studio 4.5+ (Win 64-bit)
10028	Kids 4 Toddler
10028	Kids 4 Toddler PowerLoader
15548	LAMH for DAZ Studio 4.5+ (Win 64-bit)
9300	M4 Elite Body Shapes
9300	M4 Elite Body Shapes PowerLoader
9845	M4 Elite Ethnic Faces
9845	M4 Elite Ethnic Faces PowerLoader
9335	M4 Elite Gens
9745	M4 Elite Jeremy Carrara Shaders Ca
9754	M4 Elite Lee Carrara Shaders
9734	M4 Elite Rob Carrara Shaders
9746	M4 Elite Sol Carrara Shaders
8934	M4 Elite Texture: Sol Ca
8123	M4 Merchant Resource African
8428	M4 Metro Hair
7877	Michael 4 Base
7877	Michael 4 Base PowerLoader
7877	Michael 4 Base Puppeteer StudioCF
7877	Michael 4 Base StudioCF
8653	Michael 4 Creature Creator Morphs
8653	Michael 4 Creature Creator Morphs PowerLoader
7878	Michael 4 Genitalia
7878	Michael 4 Morphs++
7878	Michael 4 Morphs++ Genitalia PowerLoader
7878	Michael 4 Morphs++ PowerLoader
9579	Michael 4 Muscle Morphs
9579	Michael 4 Muscle Morphs PowerLoader
2104	Millennium Horse
6415	Millennium SubDragon
6352	Millennium SubDragon LE
6352	Millennium SubDragon LE PowerLoader
6352	Millennium SubDragon LE StudioCF
6415	Millennium SubDragon PowerLoader
6415	Millennium SubDragon StudioCF
10027	NBM for V4
9647	NGM for Elite Fantasia
11690	NGM for Reby Sky
11691	NPM for Reby Sky
11130	NPM for SP4
11624	NPM for V4 Elite
4464	pwCatch for DAZ Studio 4
5387	pwEffect for DAZ Studio 4
4345	pwGhost for DAZ Studio 4
8258	pwSurface2 for Daz Studio 4
7253	pwToon for DAZ Studio 4
9357	Stephanie 4 Elite Base
9357	Stephanie 4 Elite Base PowerLoader
9357	Stephanie 4 Elite Base StudioCF
8436	The FREAK 4 Base
8436	The FREAK 4 Base PowerLoader
8436	The FREAK 4 Base StudioCF
9240	The FREAK 4 Character Morphs
8390	the Girl 4 Base
8390	the Girl 4 Base PowerLoader
9404	The Kids 4 Base
9404	The Kids 4 Base PowerLoader
9405	The Kids 4 Morphs++
9405	The Kids 4 Morphs++ PowerLoader
3908	The Vintage Sleigh Ps
7403	V4 Elite Body Shapes
7403	V4 Elite Body Shapes PowerLoader
9846	V4 Elite Ethnic Faces
9846	V4 Elite Ethnic Faces PowerLoader
7377	V4 Elite Texture: Amy Ca
7376	V4 Elite Texture: Lana Ca
7674	V4 Elite Texture: Marie Ca
7378	V4 Elite Texture: Maya Ca
10304	V4 Elite: Reby Sky
10304	V4 Elite: Reby Sky PowerLoader
4783	Victoria 4.2 Base
4783	Victoria 4.2 Base PowerLoader
4783	Victoria 4.2 Base StudioCF
5280	Victoria 4.2 Creature Creator Morphs
5280	Victoria 4.2 Creature Creator Morphs PowerLoader
4787	Victoria 4.2 Morphs++
4787	Victoria 4.2 Morphs++ Developer Kit
4787	Victoria 4.2 Morphs++ PowerLoader
4787	Victoria 4.2 Morphs++ StudioCF
3940	Victoria 4.2 Muscle Morphs

Wow that's a pretty good list thank you!  I use DIM anyway but its nice to have the info in case I need it at some point.

Here A partial list of thing you need to load via the DIM.

 

Hi Zilver, great to see you posting again! Excelent work as always, but her expression is so perfect. Thanks for sharing!

Thanks, DustRider!

more works... she is Aiko3, still rocking! 

"Sayumi and Me" (Genesis 3 and Michael 4)

Indeed! There is something about A3 that the other Aikos never really duplicated. Hmmm, haven't done anything with her in ages, You may have just inspired me here.

Oh .... Great renders too!

 

Hi Zilver, great to see you posting again! Excelent work as always, but her expression is so perfect. Thanks for sharing!

Thanks, DustRider!

more works... she is Aiko3, still rocking! 

"Sayumi and Me" (Genesis 3 and Michael 4)

...oooh love the Aikos.

 

Hi Zilver, great to see you posting again! Excelent work as always, but her expression is so perfect. Thanks for sharing!

Thanks, DustRider!

more works... she is Aiko3, still rocking! 

"Sayumi and Me" (Genesis 3 and Michael 4)

Morphs++

What's Included and Features

• Michael 4 Morphs++
  • 11 Full Body Morphs
  • 6 Upper Torso Morphs
  • 16 Chest Morphs
  • 9 Arm-Hand Morphs
  • 20 Lower Torso Morphs
  • 9 Glute Morphs
  • 15 Leg-Foot Morphs
  • 22 Full Head & Face Morphs
  • 13 Upper Face Morphs
  • 58 Eyes Morphs
  • 17 Ears Morphs
  • 29 Nose Morphs
  • 40 Mouth Morphs
  • 28 Lower Face Morphs
  • 6 Expression Morphs
    • Click Here for a full list of Morphs
  • Power Loader Option
• Michael 4 Anatomical Elements (.CR2 & .OBJ)
  • Morphs:
    • BodyBuilder
    • Definition
    • Smooth
    • Emaciated
    • Thin
    • SuperHero
    • Young
    • Jeremy
    • Uncircumcised
    • ScrotumSize
  • Power Loader Option
• 10 Additional Full Body Poses

How do I know if I have this installed?  I'm a total DAZ noob. :)  I do see under "Shaping", a "Morphs++" sub listing, but there is nothing shown under it for expressions, eyes, or even half the stuff you listed. :(

Morphs++

What's Included and Features

• Michael 4 Morphs++
  • 11 Full Body Morphs
  • 6 Upper Torso Morphs
  • 16 Chest Morphs
  • 9 Arm-Hand Morphs
  • 20 Lower Torso Morphs
  • 9 Glute Morphs
  • 15 Leg-Foot Morphs
  • 22 Full Head & Face Morphs
  • 13 Upper Face Morphs
  • 58 Eyes Morphs
  • 17 Ears Morphs
  • 29 Nose Morphs
  • 40 Mouth Morphs
  • 28 Lower Face Morphs
  • 6 Expression Morphs
    • Click Here for a full list of Morphs
  • Power Loader Option
• Michael 4 Anatomical Elements (.CR2 & .OBJ)
  • Morphs:
    • BodyBuilder
    • Definition
    • Smooth
    • Emaciated
    • Thin
    • SuperHero
    • Young
    • Jeremy
    • Uncircumcised
    • ScrotumSize
  • Power Loader Option
• 10 Additional Full Body Poses

Thanks for the comments!  I had so many issues creatively and technically it was driving me bananas.  Onto the next one, and no gowns this time, yay!!

Pull# 2

1. Archaic Ruins
2. Magic Containers
3. Christmas Cookies
4. Special Recon
5. Michael 4 Muscle Morphs (LB)
6. Karen 7 (LB)