Deeper Underground

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My contest entry. It is just try to make a nice Halloween render. I wish I watched this video before I started it, but still I think it turned relatively nice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twog7XFOXnM

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Done with Daz Studio 4.9

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Not Counting: G2f, G1

Freebies:

1.)* Goblinette

2.) Troll Droll Hair

3.) Troll Droll Hair Fit

4.) Troll Droll Hair Mats

5.)* Prehistoric Princess for G2f

6.)* Summoner's Sacrifice Place

7.)* DA Jack O Lantern

8.)* The Morphing Pumpkins

9.) Bone Marker

10.) Bone Mirror

11.) Bone Thing

12.) Bone Pile

13.)* Render Profiles for DAZ Studio 4.5 (Rendered on Insane)

Paid: Raw Oagre, DragonLord for Genesis

Hmmmm...  http://www.daz3d.com/wanda-hair  looks good...  http://www.daz3d.com/choko-hair-for-genesis-2-female-s  is close, just not really straight across....  http://www.daz3d.com/angie-hair-for-genesis-2-female-s-and-victoria-4  maybe....  http://www.daz3d.com/janna-hair-for-genesis-2-female-s-and-victoria-4  sort of...  Hah!  Even  http://www.daz3d.com/fiends-forever-long-fringe-hair  could work.  Spring hair, Renesmel, Cinnia.... wow, lots of options!

Das Pro-Bundle, z.B. Lilith 7, kostet $134.95. Also, 1619,40$. Ziemlich stolzer Preis.

Öhhh... wie kommst Du auf diese Summe?!? In TEURO wären das derzeit ca. € 122,95.

Was man m.A.n. auch noch berücksichtigen müsste, wäre da noch der Preisvorteil eines Bundles gegenüber der Gesamtsumme für einen Kauf der Einzelprodukte. Am Beispiel Victoria 7: das Pro Bundle kostet $ 134,95. Würde man jeden Artikel des Bundles separat erwerben, käme man auf satte $ 253,40. Der Preisvorteil für das Bundle beträgt hier schon stolze $ 118,45. 

Rein rechnerisch gesehen würde man also nur die ersten fünf Artikel (Victoria 7, Capsces Fun and Flirty Victoria 7, Krayon Hair for Genesis 3 Female(s), Leyton Hair for Genesis 3 Female(s) and Genesis 2 Female(s), Casual Summer for Genesis 3 Female(s)) voll bezahlen (Gesamtsumme der Einzelartikel: $ 120,75), auf den sechsten (Vigilante Outfit for Genesis 3 Female(s)) erhält man einen Rabatt von $ 5,75,-, und die verbleibenden Posten (Austrani Outfit for Genesis 3 Female(s), i13 Sexy Model Poses for Victoria 7, Feel It! Mix and Match Expressions for Victoria 7, Post Apocalyptic Outfit for Genesis 3 Female(s), FWSA Adaline HD for Victoria 7, Summer for Victoria 7) erhält man quasi gratis obendrauf. Das Ganze kann man mit den Produkten natürlich noch variieren, für welche man den vollen Preis löhnt, und welche man obendrauf für lau bekommt. Und als Schmankerl gibt's dann halt noch die "Anatomical Elements", wie sie sich jetzt offiziell schimpfen, auch noch mit dazu. Bezieht man jetzt noch den "Frühbucher-Rabatt" und die diversen PC+ Ermäßigungen und Gutscheine mit in die Berechnung mit ein, wird's natürlich noch günsticher. 

Abgesehen von dem Post Apocalyptic und Austrani Outfit und vielleicht den Posen, die für mich nichts wirklich überlebensnotwendiges darstellen, sind hier die Sachen eigentlich ganz nützlich.

Aw yeah secret orange banner has transititoned to Arabella for those that are meant to be qualified to get it and aren't seeing it.

Already have her - Josie got skipped gives a vaaaague hope of some more useful offers during the sale though.

Just wondered how you know that Josie got skipped. I prefer her to Arabella. Is there a way to find out the order in which the G3 characters were released?

Upcoming (confirmed but unsure when)

Lucian 7
Monique 7
Darius 7
Mika 7

Released:

Lilith 7: Thu 6th Oct (server problems Tue-Wed)

Sunny 7: Tue 13th Sep

Tween Ryan 7: Tue 23rd Aug
Tween Julie 7: Tue 9th Aug

Kenji 7: Tue 19th July
Aiko 7: Tue 5th July 

Ivan 7: 21st June
Rune 7: Tue 7th June (1 day notice)

Kimo 7: Tue 24th May
Kalea 7: Tue 10th May (Kimo 7 announce)

Lee 7: Tue 19th Apr
Mei Lin 7: Thu 7th Apr (Lee 7 announce)

Izabella 7: Wed 24th Mar (delay issue on Tue)

Guy 7: Tue 23rd Feb
Girl 7: Tue 16th Feb

Gianni 7: Tue 26th Jan
Gia 7: Tue 19th Jan

2015

Leo 7: Tue 22nd Dec
Olympia 7: Tue 15th Dec

Michael 7: Tue 17th Nov
Arabella 7: Tue 20th Oct
Teen Josie 7: Tue 15th Sep
Karen 7: Wed 19th Aug *
Bethany 7: Tue 4th Aug *
Eva 7: Tue 21st Jul
Victoria 7: Tue 23rd Jun 

My shortest "adult" character is my namesake at 4'11" with a gymnast's physique. She is still G2F based (Mei Lin 6) until I can get the Face Morph resource kits that are on my wishlist and Skin Builder Pro 3 comes out (she's an albino).

 

I have an albino character I made using Brooklyn HD skin texture and a blond shader for the eyelashes. So, when you switch to G3F, you may want to try her out. And this will give you a close approximation of Mei Lin 6 on G3F.

Updated October 19, 2016

I may have unintentionally translated on the hip.... I'm trying to translate the entire figure, such as Victoria 7, for example. I click on "Victoria 7" and work with what I get there without selecting hip. Maybe they're one and the same, I'm not sure. Is there any other way to have the figures rotate on their axis without using "Translate"?

Hallo Arnold,

das mit den UV-Sets verstehe ich nicht so ganz. Die sind doch für alle Characters / Varianten der entsprechenden kompatiblen Generation identisch.

G1 Basic Child:      The Kids 4
G1 Base Male:       Michael 4 / einige auch Victoria 4
G2 Base Male:       Base Male, dto. für Brothers und Growing Up
G3 Base Male:       merkwürdiger Weise heißt das auch Base Male, besitzt aber eine andere Aufteilung; G2 Base Male textures passen nicht.

Aber was hat UV-Set mit der Geometrie zu tun?
Das UV-Set beschreibt doch nur, welche Texture-Koordinaten wo auf der Geometrie (die wohl mesh genannt wird) liegen.

Die Genitals-Props sind doch Geometrie. Sind also relativ zu Hip orientiert und der Krümmung der mesh an dieser Stelle angepaßt.
Problematisch ist mit Sicherheit, angepaßte Textures für die jeweiligen neuen Character-Textures zu bekommen.

Oder liege ich da sooo grundsätzlich falsch? Oder habe ich die entsprechende Passage in Deinem Post nur falsch verstanden?

Nochmal zu dem "tiefer in die Tasche greifen":
Wozu soll man viel Geld für Pakete ausgeben, die man für die basis-Figur bereits in der zurückliegenden Zeit für teures Geld erworben hat?
Und das nur für diese kleine anatomische Ergänzung?
Mindestens 50% von Michael 6 habe ich eh schon für meinen Genesis 2. Weitere 30% sind zwar ganz nett, habe ich aber keine Verwendung für.

Jein. Als Beispiel an Genesis 3, Victoria 7 hat eine andere UV Schablone als Eva 7, diese wiederum eine andere als Arabella 7, usw. Bei der 6. Generation und Genesis sieht's ähnlich aus.

Das mit der Geometrie stimmt schon, nur haben die unterschiedlichen Charaktere mitunter ja auch eine sehr verschiedene Geometrie; Olympia 6 z.B.hat einen dickeren Hi... ähhh... breitere Hüften als Victoria 6. Also sind die UV-Koordinaten bei den beiden nicht 100%ig identisch. Weiteres Beispiel, verwendet man die Eva 7 Texturen mit der Victoria 7 UV Set Einstellung, dann bekommt man recht häßliche Lücken an den Textursäumen. Die 7. Generation kommt ja nun zumeist immer mit einer seperaten Genitalien-Textur, aber die älteren Figurengenerationen verwendeten da zumeist die Textur des Torsos. Wenn da dann bei den verschiedenen Charakteren das UV Set nicht angepasst wurde, kommt es mitunter vor, dass die Textur dann nicht korrekt um das Genitalien-Prop herumgewickelt wird, wobei es zu Verschiebungen mit der darunterliegenden Textur des Torsos kommt. Je größer der Unterschied in der Geometrie, umso auffälliger wird die Verschiebung. Was dann meist etwas blöd ausschaut. Bei den DAZ Pro Bundle Genitalien hat man den Vorteil, dass da bei jedem Charakter das UV Set des Genital-Props schon von Haus aus angepasst wurde.

Nun, in dem Fall kann man ja auf einen anderen Charakter ausweichen. Wenn Du von Michael schon 50 % hast, dann vielleicht das Lee, Gianni oder Darius Pro Bundle. Das Genital-Prop ist dabei jedesmal dasselbe, da das spezifische UV Set dafür immer der Figur selbst beiliegt. Zugegeben, bei den neueren Genesis 3 Pro Bundles ist oftmals etliches an Kram dabei, für den ich abgesehen von der Charakterfigur keine Verwendung hätte. Wäre nett, wenn DAZ dazu umschwingen würde, die Gen-Props schon dem Starter Bundle beizugeben, oder die auch seperat anbieten würde.

 Echt jetzt? Komm ich so bieder rüber?

Ich denke aber, das Thema ist schon wichtig, auch wenn mann nicht für den Beate-Uhse Channel produzieren will. Die anatomischen Teile sind halt "am Menschen dran" und verändern, wir Kleidung fällt und wie man sich bewegt. Daher müsste man eigentlich, insbesondere beim Mann, ein (Kleidungs-)kollisionsfähiges "Teil" haben. Es wird hilfweise durch die Bulge-morphs abgebildet, aner das ist nur eine Krücke. (Ich sollte das mal Spaßeshalber mit VwD probieren...) 

Während ich zwar keines der renderotica-Teile besitze (mir reichen für meine Render die Pro Bundle Gens völlig aus), waren die Produktbeschreibungen aber schon hilfreich und informativ. Für mich reichen, wie gesagt, die DAZ Teile völlig aus, und Pro-Bundle bekommt man ja (insbesondere M/V) sehr oft für einen günstigen Preis. Mehr braucht man dann ja nicht. 

Ähhhhhhh... Ich berufe mich auf den Fünften! 

Nee, im Ernst. Eigentlich könnte man denken, dass Produkte speziell dieser Sparte "von Kerlen für Kerle" gemacht werden, und "frau" da nicht so großes Interesse dran hat. Ich hab' aber festgestellt, dass einige der "etwas offenherzigeren" Produkte auch hier im Shop oftmals von Künstlerinnen erschaffen wurden.

Geht mir genauso, obwohl ich mir schon mal das Ein oder Andere Produkt angeschafft habe. Die DAZ Genitalia sind im Grunde vollkommen ausreichend, für etwas mehr Detail/Realismus nimmt man dann halt noch die von Morphs von Poison oder TigerFish dazu. Der ist übrigens identisch mit DarioFish (Hell Fish Studios) hier im DAZ Shop und auf Rendo ("More Than Human", "Cybersuit"). Da ich bei Genesis 3 schon bei Pro Bundles zugeschlagen hab', muss ich frühestens wieder bei Genesis 4 erneut zulangen. Also im nächsten Jahr, wenn das mit der durchschnittlichen Lebensdauer der DAZ Figuren beibehalten wird...

Unified brain ,. I'm not that 3D-Age.  sorry.

On the transition from Studio, to Carrara,. something that must be mentioned,.. to understand why we're here,. is Poser.

Poser was the program which Zygote (later to become Daz3D) started to make models for.

Poser was sold to another company,.  then again, and again,.  and as a content producer for a product, with an uncertain future,. it was a sensible strategic decision to create their own software,. Daz Studio.

Studio was built to allow the same models to be used in the same way, and hopefully encourage Poser users to buy Daz Studio.

the structure of Content libraried was exactly the same as Poser,. the workflow was very similar to poser,. which should make it an easy transition for users.

Around the same time,. Carrara was purchased by Daz3D from it's developer Eovia.

it had the ability to Import Poser / Daz3D models in their native format,. so they could be used in the same way as in Poser or Daz Studio

On using Carrara to load content,. that should be the same. or almost the same as in Studio or Poser

you'd load content from the browser,. either from your Daz3D library, Poser runtime library, or your own Carrara content.

Carrara has three default scene scales,. which is a bit different from Studio or Poser. ..Medium scale is ideal for working with human scale figures.

Applying or adjusting figure morphs,. is done in the figures "Parameters" tab,. depending on the figure, or part of the figure you have selected.

To add clothing or hair to a figure,. Select the figure,. browse to the content, and double click to load and "fit it" to the selected figure.

If you didn't have a figure selected,.. you can "Fit" the clothing or hair to the figure by using the "fit to" option in the right hand panel General tab.

To apply poses,. you can double click a premade pose in your content library ,. or manually pose the figure using the tools on the left to move rotate etc.

you can manually select bones and move or rotate them,. ..you can select multple bones,. EG: Both hands,. and move them at the same time.

you can right click over an object in your scene to get a list of objects under the mouse,. EG: bones in a figure's hand.

then select the object from that list.

See pic

Applying textures / materials,. MatPoses for content, should be the same process,.load from browser,.

In the majority of cases,. the structure of these shaders made for DS and Poser need some minor adjustment in carrara's shader room,. to look better.

Carrara translates the "Surfaces" structure from Studio or Poser items,. into it's own shader system. and like any translation,. some time perfect is not. :)

Even good old Victoria 4's shaders need to have some minor adjustments to look it's best in Carrara, instead of sickly green.

Simple things like reflection maps for eye's, which carrara doesn't need,. the eyes can reflect the objects in the carrara scene.

Most of the time, you can load any content and simply render for a decent image,. but if you spend a little time in the shader rooms you can make it look better.

There are some obvious differences in features and functionaltity between Carrara and Daz Studio, or Poser,. but the basic workflow of using "content" in carrara should be the same as in Poser or Daz Studio.

If there's something in Carrara that you're having difficulty with,. or something that you think is different from what you're used to doing in studio,. maybe you could help us out by highlighting those areas,. and I'll try to help.

Also,.. whether you come from Studio,. Poser,  some other 3D software,. or nothing at all,. there's a learning curve for all things new,.

Carrara's learning curve is relatively easy,. when compared to most 3D suites,.. which don't support native loading of Daz/Poser figures.

One more render. http://www.daz3d.com/fwsa-taia-hd-for-victoria-7 with http://www.daz3d.com/undead-creature-creator-hd-morph-pack-for-genesis-3-female

It can sometimes be difficult to tell whether you need all of the required items, or just one of them.  Here are some guidelines:

1 - if the required items are different figures, you only need one.  For example, if a hair lists both Victoria 4 and Michael 4, you don't need both

2 - if a clothing item lists a figure and various morph packs, that usually means the morphs are supported, but the clothing will work with just the base figure

3 - if a character lists a figure and various morphs, then you do need the morphs to get the character to look exactly as shown; however, the figure shape may be pretty close even if you're missing some of the morphs

Hallo Arnold,

das mit den UV-Sets verstehe ich nicht so ganz. Die sind doch für alle Characters / Varianten der entsprechenden kompatiblen Generation identisch.

G1 Basic Child:      The Kids 4
G1 Base Male:       Michael 4 / einige auch Victoria 4
G2 Base Male:       Base Male, dto. für Brothers und Growing Up
G3 Base Male:       merkwürdiger Weise heißt das auch Base Male, besitzt aber eine andere Aufteilung; G2 Base Male textures passen nicht.

Aber was hat UV-Set mit der Geometrie zu tun?
Das UV-Set beschreibt doch nur, welche Texture-Koordinaten wo auf der Geometrie (die wohl mesh genannt wird) liegen.

Die Genitals-Props sind doch Geometrie. Sind also relativ zu Hip orientiert und der Krümmung der mesh an dieser Stelle angepaßt.
Problematisch ist mit Sicherheit, angepaßte Textures für die jeweiligen neuen Character-Textures zu bekommen.

Oder liege ich da sooo grundsätzlich falsch? Oder habe ich die entsprechende Passage in Deinem Post nur falsch verstanden?

Nochmal zu dem "tiefer in die Tasche greifen":
Wozu soll man viel Geld für Pakete ausgeben, die man für die basis-Figur bereits in der zurückliegenden Zeit für teures Geld erworben hat?
Und das nur für diese kleine anatomische Ergänzung?
Mindestens 50% von Michael 6 habe ich eh schon für meinen Genesis 2. Weitere 30% sind zwar ganz nett, habe ich aber keine Verwendung für.

When will the offer be fixed to also include us who already own a larger (over a dozen or so) number of the "7" characters? Or is this a case of "It's not a bug, it's a feature"?

Fixed how - are you an owner of more than 5 figures not getting the bethany offer? If so we can rasie that with Daz. Or are you wanting an offer of a figure you don't already have? I think that's probably just luck of the draw.

Aplogies if I was unclear. It's not getting the Bethany offer I'm refering too. I'm not sure, but there seemed to be an offer for Eva too, but I already had her so that doesn't matter to me personally.

But yes, my problem is that I and others as owners of over a dozen (in my case, 17 to be exact) "7" characters didn't get the banner offer for Bethany. That offers go out for things I already own I only got myself to blame for buying things early, so I'm not complaining about that. I just want to know that I'll be included the next time one of the characters I don't have happens to go on special sale.

These are the Daz base figure characters - like Bethany herself - not just PA characters for Genesis 3 Female?

Yes, base characters like Victoria, Eva, Karen, Teen Josie, Arabella and Michael, which are my six first if I start from the bottom of the list. I do not dare think of how many I got if counting PA characters.

I assumed that, but wanted to double-check. Unfortunately sorting out the check-out issues last night blocked our inside agent from looking into this issue yesterday, but we have flagged it up.

When will the offer be fixed to also include us who already own a larger (over a dozen or so) number of the "7" characters? Or is this a case of "It's not a bug, it's a feature"?

Fixed how - are you an owner of more than 5 figures not getting the bethany offer? If so we can rasie that with Daz. Or are you wanting an offer of a figure you don't already have? I think that's probably just luck of the draw.

Aplogies if I was unclear. It's not getting the Bethany offer I'm refering too. I'm not sure, but there seemed to be an offer for Eva too, but I already had her so that doesn't matter to me personally.

But yes, my problem is that I and others as owners of over a dozen (in my case, 17 to be exact) "7" characters didn't get the banner offer for Bethany. That offers go out for things I already own I only got myself to blame for buying things early, so I'm not complaining about that. I just want to know that I'll be included the next time one of the characters I don't have happens to go on special sale.

These are the Daz base figure characters - like Bethany herself - not just PA characters for Genesis 3 Female?

Yes, base characters like Victoria, Eva, Karen, Teen Josie, Arabella and Michael, which are my six first if I start from the bottom of the list. I do not dare think of how many I got if counting PA characters.

I'm creating an animated character in Daz (Victoria Seven) Gen 3 and dessing her in "Vigilante Outfit for Genesis 3". 

I need help rigging, I use the DUF Gen 3 feamle Facial Key in daz and CAN import into 3dxchange without clothes but when I add the clothes and animate the program crashes.

Also even without animation the Vigilante boot on the left foot stretches when she walks in 3dxchange.

Any ideas? Is this a bug?  

How can I make Daz custom clothing or can I hire someone on here?

Thanks!

There was a Victoria 4 version of this which might convert better since her shape is more similar to Genesis but I can't find it in the store. They seem to be adding Runtime DNA stuff in batches so it might appear sometime, but it might not, and it might not be in a sale, and then this sale will be over .... the joy of Daz Sales.

I'm fairly sure the tentacle is the EvilInnocence one SKU 2602 which isn't in the sale but is currently only $5.

I think if I could get a 7 figure for $5 I'd probably be pretty excited, but that's just me. lol I only have one 7 figure (Victoria 7) so they are still the "new shinies" to me. :)

Agreed, it's a bargain at that price, but I'd be more excited if there were more accessories for her that I liked. For some reason they've decided that since she is overweight, her characters should be plain, or unattractive, or caracaturish. So since I don't see myself buying other stuff for her, I'm not going to pursue; if she comes right on price I'll want her, but ...  I'd certainly pursue if it were another figure, and I liked the accessories. :)

Just Victoria 6 UVs. If you want just genesis 2 female UVs, that product as well as the V4 one is sold at the Cayman Studios store at Rendo

Hmmm I'm wondering why the promo image shows a Teen Josie 6 character texture then? 

Surely that texture doesn't use the Victoria 6 UV. 

Just Victoria 6 UVs. If you want just genesis 2 female UVs, that product as well as the V4 one is sold at the Cayman Studios store at Rendo

Does this product work for all Genesis 2 Female textures or just textures that use the Victoria 6 UV? 

I noticed in the promo images that it shows a texture for a character for Teen Josie 6 (which I'm pretty sure does not use the V6 UV). So will this product work with other G2F textures? Or only textures made for V6 characters?