This time I will look at a Victoria 4 character that I converted to Genesis 2. The character is Lil' Flower from the other store. This means I can use the Genesis 2 options from both ICS and NGS.

First pic is ICS, then NGS.

This time I think I favor NGS. Though she is slightly redder in the face, she actually is slightly redder in the face. She doesn't have perfect skin.

Lets zoom in. I tried using Brow Remover on it, which was kind of a bad idea. Brow Remover is often helpful, but this time her forehead has details that get copied over where her brows were. Oops! I left the first image with it, and used Lacitus free brows. On the second image, I did not use No Brow, but I left the Lacitus brows on. Oh well. I also cranked up the Cornea Bulge morph to 1.6.

Again, I favor NGS a bit on this one. Both look nice, IMO, but for this character, NGS brings out more character in her skin. One thing I notice is how NGS reflects off the eye, and in general it adds a lot more detail to the face (this from the original Flower texture.)

So overall, I see these two products complimenting each other. They each have their own strengths, and one might work better in certain situations over the other. I like both products.

What is ICS?

Edit: Oh, ISC, Iray Smart Converter, I think.

I was wondering if there was such a thing as any freebie Vamp Morphs for G1 like the teeth and make-up etc....????

Free fang morph for Genesis: http://www.sharecg.com/v/63076/gallery/21/DAZ-Studio/Fang-morph-for-Genesis

Free fangs for V4: https://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/fangs-for-victoria-4-genesis-reposted/69928

Free vampire morph and texture for V4: https://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/?item_id=65999

Free vampire body and head morph for V4: http://www.sharecg.com/v/69161/browse/11/Poser/Vampire-Girl-for-V4.2

Free Vampire nail https://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/?item_id=59360

Vampire character for V4 and Genesis but not free: http://www.daz3d.com/scarlett-black

This time I will look at a Victoria 4 character that I converted to Genesis 2. The character is Lil' Flower from the other store. This means I can use the Genesis 2 options from both ICS and NGS.

First pic is ICS, then NGS.

This time I think I favor NGS. Though she is slightly redder in the face, she actually is slightly redder in the face. She doesn't have perfect skin.

Lets zoom in. I tried using Brow Remover on it, which was kind of a bad idea. Brow Remover is often helpful, but this time her forehead has details that get copied over where her brows were. Oops! I left the first image with it, and used Lacitus free brows. On the second image, I did not use No Brow, but I left the Lacitus brows on. Oh well. I also cranked up the Cornea Bulge morph to 1.6.

Again, I favor NGS a bit on this one. Both look nice, IMO, but for this character, NGS brings out more character in her skin. One thing I notice is how NGS reflects off the eye, and in general it adds a lot more detail to the face (this from the original Flower texture.)

So overall, I see these two products complimenting each other. They each have their own strengths, and one might work better in certain situations over the other. I like both products.

I'm going to guess that I'm probably in the minority but I am one who likes to use the Generation 4 stuff (Victoria 4, Michael 4, etc). I currently use Daz but plan to change to Poser soon once I get some extra cash. I've noticed that there's not that much in the way of intimate clothing for both males and females for Gen 4. (I almost feel that there's more in this category for Gen 3 sadly.) If anybody's able to make more content it'd be appreciated.

I plan to be purchasing Poser soon, probably around Christmas time, and would like to start using that instead of Daz because it would make it a lot easier to take content from Poser to Manga Studio and Anime Studio than trying to use Daz exports. I plan to be using mostly Gen 4 stuff (Michael 4, Victoria 4, etc). possibly some Gen 6 stuff as well. Do I have to have Daz formats installed in addition to the Poser formats in order for the content to work? I hope not because if it does I will probably need to get a new computer since my hard drive is getting low on space.

hey Diva

nice renders as always

you've convinced me buying

whats the clothing shes wearing the first pictures ?

Oh awesome! :D I hope you share some renders of her! :)

The clothes she's wearing is an amazing freebie by 3dpoetry. It's the Aeron Pict Warrior Summer clothing: https://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/aeron-the-pict-warrior-summer-clothing-for-genesis-3-and-victoria-7/76614

3dpoetry has a lot of really great freebies. :) I love her stuff!

:sigh: Another morph question. Michael 4's feet are not as nice as they could be no matter what I do with them. There is a product that helps called Perfect Toes for V4, M4 and Genesis, however as the same morphs must be injected no matter if it's Mike or Vicky I'm not sure if it qualifies. If not, does anybody know where I can find feet fixes for Michael 4? The only ones I've found so far are all for Victoria and even though they do work on M4 I'm thinking they're also not suitable for this contest.

I'm not familiar with that particular product.  However, if the same morphs are used for all figures, I would consider those morphs to be more gender neutral.  I don't see any reason to disqualify an image using such gender neutral morphs.

 Change of plans.

All portraits lit with iRadiance HDR Mesh Lights  but using Modifier Rotation B from iRadiance Studio HDRIs for Iray  found in Content Library in Light Presets>DimensionTheory. (In case you don't know, you can use the rotation modifiers from the Studio ones for the Mesh lights. Neat! The brightness will probably work too. Both are under the Modifiers in the Studio product.)  

To get these results:

1. have your figure facing Front.

2. Add one distant light (using your view, so directly Front) and in Parameters, put it at 190.5% intensity, Lumens 15,000. Leave your light WHITE to compare your results between the shaders.

3. Create a camera and be sure to turn off the headlamp. Next, set your Focal Length to 100 so your characters are not distorting with these closeups. (between 90-125 is recommended.) 

4. So you can easily duplicate this (if you like the results) I am leaving the Film ISO at 100 and only moving the Exposure Value. For Brooklyn, it's 13.85.  

5. These are all 415 x 575 pixels. Be sure you have turned up your Max Samples and Max Time.

Starting with Brooklyn HD for Victoria 7   Lips 02  Makeup  03

Hmmm, The forum image looks much redder!  So this is the default. Going to go try the N.G.S. Anagenessis 2 Revolution (A2R from now on, this is a ridiculously long title.) 

The A2R default. Hmmm. Well, at first look, I don't like the overall color, too green, or the lips. So now I am seeing if I can select certain surfaces and omit the lips and eyes. We'll see.  EDIT: NO YOU CAN NOT. It ignores what you tell it in Surfaces!   Okay, game on A2R. I'm going to see if I can go back and apply the lips from the original, and see if it will override the A2R shader.

Edit: While you can apply the original lips back, you will get a lighter color for Brooklyn. Don't know what it will do for other characters other than to say the color WILL be different if you apply the original lips again. For this character, to keep that 02 shade, change the Diffuse Color to 245 / 214 / 204 and Translucency Color to 248 / 228 / 224  

So with the default lips over the shader plus my Diffuse/Translucency changes to them (because it would NOT let me choose the surfaces when A2R was applied) I then applied Medium Pores.

So I reset everything (undid all my lip tweaks) and went to Glossiness and applied two things: Fix for Lips/ Makeup and also Lip Gloss Female. It's rendering, but I can tell you already that going back to the original lips was better. Not sure what it would be like to do the original lips and use this for a glossiness tool, but you probably could. So this is with A2R and the lips presets in the product. I don't like it at all.

 COMING UP: Changed to lip shade 05, it's a bit darker and you do have to contend with that A2R change to the lips-and changed Glossy Layered Weight from .30 to .64. Then for the skin, changeTranslucency Color (from a vibrant orangey-whatever that color) to this:

For subtle changes: a pink of 248 / 228 / 224  

 For shown below: 230 / 114 / 91 and change Reflectance Tint from blue to less blue by using 169 / 186 / 181.  You can tweak some more by adding more pink, I think I will keep tweaking and put in another post. She's still too green for me.

So not a one click solution for light skins.

Okay, couldn't stand it.So I changed the Base Color and Glossy colors (just playing) to a light pink (to combat the green/blue) and FYI, change glossy on lips to a light orange instead of white, when you have fair complexioned people/light brows/hair. You'l get a more subtle hue. The lips above have that done already.

:sigh: Another morph question. Michael 4's feet are not as nice as they could be no matter what I do with them. There is a product that helps called Perfect Toes for V4, M4 and Genesis, however as the same morphs must be injected no matter if it's Mike or Vicky I'm not sure if it qualifies. If not, does anybody know where I can find feet fixes for Michael 4? The only ones I've found so far are all for Victoria and even though they do work on M4 I'm thinking they're also not suitable for this contest.

I think it might be this one http://www.daz3d.com/tammy-hair-for-genesis-3-female-s-genesis-2-female-s-and-victoria-4

I did buy it, as the extra 15% off added up to enough savings to make a dent in its purchase price, I picked up more of FirstBastion's sets and some really cheap characters and clothes. I have a brilliant (as usual) question- I'm not understanding why it's so great to be taking out image maps, if I am understanding that correctly. I thought more was good. Not sure I'm understanding the "one diffuse in all figures." 

And someone said in this post it replaces the Genesis 3 characters' UV map to Base and Victoria 7 and so I guessafter you apply the shader check the character's UV and ensure you keep it the same before you tweak?  I really, really need to be studying Zbrush but I guess today I'll take a look at this and bungle through it. I am the least technical person on this planet. 

SereneNight, let us know what you think after the female products. I am going to use iRadiance Studio Lights I think. If I can even figure any of this out, I will post a before photo and after photo of what I do. 

Hey anyone/everyone,

Does anyone know what hair model was used in the FW Phoenix HD for Victoria promo images? The curly blonde hair looks great with the Phoenix character.

Thank you,

Norm

went little goofy and rendered the same scene with default skin (out of the box), with N.G.S. Anagenessis for Genesis 3 and with N.G.S. Anagenessis 2 - Revolution to compare the renders

That last one looks too red IMO compared to the first two. And that's this product?

I think that the red is because of the used skin - other skins are diffent

Here´s one using the G3F "base" skin "jeane"

Workflow:

Setup the scene - Character (G3F with some morphdials used), Pose, Backdrop, Jewlery and Logo

Hair http://www.daz3d.com/soleil-hair-for-genesis-2-3-female-s

G3F "base" skin "Jeane ALL MAT" from http://www.daz3d.com/genesis-3-starter-essentials

Lips, Eyeshadow and Liner (used skin without makeup) from http://www.daz3d.com/l-i-e-make-up-set-2-for-genesis-3-female-s ; - No blusher was used

Eyes from http://www.daz3d.com/cailin-for-victoria-7 ; (just because I like the color)

Light "PLC Light 23" from http://www.daz3d.com/promo-style-catch-lights-for-iray - changed the keylight angle a little bit to get the character in focus

NOW I applied N.G.S. 2 - used scripts:

Anagenessis 2 Genesis 3

Fix for makeup and Lips

Lipp Gloss Female

Pores medium Level

SemiGloss on

Daz Studio Pro BETA - version 4.9.3.128 - Default rendersettings - 2518 iterations

 

 

You have absolutely got it!

N.G.S. 2 works exactly with default diffuse map color. No tricks with tint or transmited/translucent colors.

Great Render though!

P.S.

Do you have SemiGloss On/Off Presets?

Thnx

D-Z

went little goofy and rendered the same scene with default skin (out of the box), with N.G.S. Anagenessis for Genesis 3 and with N.G.S. Anagenessis 2 - Revolution to compare the renders

That last one looks too red IMO compared to the first two. And that's this product?

I think that the red is because of the used skin - other skins are diffent

Here´s one using the G3F "base" skin "jeane"

Workflow:

Setup the scene - Character (G3F with some morphdials used), Pose, Backdrop, Jewlery and Logo

Hair http://www.daz3d.com/soleil-hair-for-genesis-2-3-female-s

G3F "base" skin "Jeane ALL MAT" from http://www.daz3d.com/genesis-3-starter-essentials

Lips, Eyeshadow and Liner (used skin without makeup) from http://www.daz3d.com/l-i-e-make-up-set-2-for-genesis-3-female-s ; - No blusher was used

Eyes from http://www.daz3d.com/cailin-for-victoria-7 ; (just because I like the color)

Light "PLC Light 23" from http://www.daz3d.com/promo-style-catch-lights-for-iray - changed the keylight angle a little bit to get the character in focus

NOW I applied N.G.S. 2 - used scripts:

Anagenessis 2 Genesis 3

Fix for makeup and Lips

Lipp Gloss Female

Pores medium Level

SemiGloss on

Daz Studio Pro BETA - version 4.9.3.128 - Default rendersettings - 2518 iterations

Go to your scene tab, highlight your character, and expand all. Check every line going town looking for any props that might be added to the figure somewhere. It is certainly odd.

Thanks outrider42! I'll check this. I agree it certainly is odd, as I've used both hair products with Victoria 7 in 3Delight and have not had a problem.

I always like to see the link to the figure being referenced, so I don't have to be looking around. LOL!

http://www.daz3d.com/fw-phoenix-hd-for-victoria-7

She is indeed a beatiful character, and for some reason she reminds me a bit of Scary Spice. :)

Stalest said:

My DAZ program sits on my c drive, but all content sits on another drive and I did not have any problem with using this product on V4 (only just downloaded and used it just the once so far!). The only items I download from DAZ contect are those items that are DAZ contect only items.

My image is still processing, but the results so far look amazing

My DS program is on C: my 'DAZ'  content is on D: and my Poser content is on F: and it fails on V4 for me.  Not convinced I am doing it right as I have doubts about the 'All Genesis (including V4 and M4)' statement as V4 and M4 are NOT Genesis, even if Genesis can use the Gen4 materials natively.

Also, even with G3F it seems to fail on fingernails and converts Bethany UV maps to Victoria 7 for me ;)

It does make quite a change to the result, under the same lighting, so it takes a bit of getting used to.

I see the UVs for Genesis 3 characters getting changed to Base and Victoria 7... is that intentional?

Nope. I have mentioned that in my product description. If you have UV Fitting "problem", just select all surfaces and choose the propper UV Type for your character. So before apply shader just remember character's UV type.

Its not a product's issue but you have to make this simple "fix" for some characters.

Thnx

D-Z

I see the UVs for Genesis 3 characters getting changed to Base and Victoria 7... is that intentional?

FW Phoenix looks amazing: http://www.daz3d.com/fw-phoenix-hd-for-victoria-7