Any thoughts on http://www.daz3d.com/macro-eyes-for-iray-bundle

Does anybody bought it. Would like to see, how it will look like on Michael 7 and Victoria 7, or any other Genesis 3 characters.

I wonder if the look of the Macro Eyes will be not too different, to distract from the render of the character. Just curious.

Finally got the whole thread read lol.

So I use both render engines as I said above so its not make or break for me to have support for both on any given product.  But I will say this.  I am sure the sales data supports the fact that Iray sells better than 3Delight.  But I also believe that its not really a fair comparison because honestly, if I had found Daz a couple months later and didn't visit the forums, I doubt that I would even have noticed that there was another option availalbe.  The switch over happened rather quickly, when I first came here I started learning 3Delight because that is what was available and everything for sale was for that.  Then Iray came out and all of a sudden, (relatively speaking probably in less than 6 months) all you saw and heard about is Iray.  I doubt that anyone new coming into this hobby even notices that 3Delight is much of an option because Iray is shoved in their face wherever they look.  And why would they look for a second option if its not obvious?  So to say that Iray sells better than 3Delight now is probably true.  But someone, somewhere was working pretty hard to make sure that that is what would happen.

I was scrolling through the website - new items.

I couldn't buy anything 3Delight, so something of a poor comparrison. I can't buy what isn't there.

I want shaders, and some info on how to use them. It's tough to know what to use that I already have, whereas with IRAY there seems to be more info on how to do stuff; maybe because everyone was in the same boat and the info got shared, but with 3Deltight, until recently, there was no threads to read.

What kind of shaders? What kind of info? Do you need to know how to apply them, or something more indepth about what all the parameters do? There are so many existing 3Delight shaders/shader presets out there, that I can't think of anything that hasn't been done already at some point in the past. The good news for you is that these still fully functional and excellent "vintage" items may be less expensive than their newer counterparts. 3Delight shaders/presets is a bit like Victoria and Michael 4. For such a long period of time the people who like to make shaders for Daz Studio, only had 3Delight to work with, so nearly every possible thing has been accomplished.

I do understand that the general forum base can assume that everyone has a similar foundation of common knowledge, and this assumption is incorrect and difficult to overcome. Bluebird3D's quick tip series have definately illustrated the point that knowledge taken for granted by one person, can be a real "A-Ha!" moment for someone else. My general advice would be to start your own thread with the specifics of the information you seek. We (the community) can either answer directly, or track down relevant past discussions.

Finally got the whole thread read lol.

So I use both render engines as I said above so its not make or break for me to have support for both on any given product.  But I will say this.  I am sure the sales data supports the fact that Iray sells better than 3Delight.  But I also believe that its not really a fair comparison because honestly, if I had found Daz a couple months later and didn't visit the forums, I doubt that I would even have noticed that there was another option availalbe.  The switch over happened rather quickly, when I first came here I started learning 3Delight because that is what was available and everything for sale was for that.  Then Iray came out and all of a sudden, (relatively speaking probably in less than 6 months) all you saw and heard about is Iray.  I doubt that anyone new coming into this hobby even notices that 3Delight is much of an option because Iray is shoved in their face wherever they look.  And why would they look for a second option if its not obvious?  So to say that Iray sells better than 3Delight now is probably true.  But someone, somewhere was working pretty hard to make sure that that is what would happen.

That's not exactly what the sales data says; what it says is that having both sets of shaders available does not guarantee that sales will be higher enough for a given product to justify including both. Hell, I remember a time when some products being sold here had only Poser mats because that's what the vendor of the product used to create it. Other folks made DAZ Studio mats for those products, though today the vendor in question has long abandoned Poser and Victoria 4 for DAZ Studio and G3F. Their personal image renders are done in Octane, for what it's worth, though product renders are done in either 3DL or Iray and I think they do provide both.

All I'm saying is that from the time frame of when I started the shift to focusing heavily on Iray happened pretty fast and that if I had started with Studio 6 months later I doubt that I would have even tried 3dl given the very strong focus on Iray and not on 3Delight. So saying that new people prefer Iray is not really an unskewed equation because the focus on Iray is not the same as the focus of 3Delight by any stretch of the imagination. 3Delight is far more intuitive to me and if I had started with Iray I may very well have walked away in frustration. Only knowing that I could still work in 3delight if I couldn't get a handle on Iray kept me from giving up in frustration those first months. And DAZ would have lost a rather large chunk of my money. And of course, there really isn't any way to find out how many people who start don't like Iray and just quietly walk away because obviously when that happens it continues to re inforce the idea that Iray is more popular.  And the argument can go round and round and round. 

Edited to fix spelling its late and I'm too tired to spell correctly lol

Finally got the whole thread read lol.

So I use both render engines as I said above so its not make or break for me to have support for both on any given product.  But I will say this.  I am sure the sales data supports the fact that Iray sells better than 3Delight.  But I also believe that its not really a fair comparison because honestly, if I had found Daz a couple months later and didn't visit the forums, I doubt that I would even have noticed that there was another option availalbe.  The switch over happened rather quickly, when I first came here I started learning 3Delight because that is what was available and everything for sale was for that.  Then Iray came out and all of a sudden, (relatively speaking probably in less than 6 months) all you saw and heard about is Iray.  I doubt that anyone new coming into this hobby even notices that 3Delight is much of an option because Iray is shoved in their face wherever they look.  And why would they look for a second option if its not obvious?  So to say that Iray sells better than 3Delight now is probably true.  But someone, somewhere was working pretty hard to make sure that that is what would happen.

That's not exactly what the sales data says; what it says is that having both sets of shaders available does not guarantee that sales will be higher enough for a given product to justify including both. Hell, I remember a time when some products being sold here had only Poser mats because that's what the vendor of the product used to create it. Other folks made DAZ Studio mats for those products, though today the vendor in question has long abandoned Poser and Victoria 4 for DAZ Studio and G3F. Their personal image renders are done in Octane, for what it's worth, though product renders are done in either 3DL or Iray and I think they do provide both.

Over the last couple of years I've been concentrating on writing my own shaders, so not many "finished" renders wind up being done. And believe me, my test renders are boring as hell. So you can take a look at my latest render here (it features Victoria 2 - yes, the second generation): http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/1844646/#Comment_1844646

So this is my major V2 "oeuvre".

The version attached is an example of the EXR render tonemapped in Picturenaut.

Click for bigger!

And on my dA gallery I posted a more artistic version that was tonemapped using NIK Analog FX.

If you click this one, it should take you straight to the hi-res version. Unless dA doesn't allow hotlinking.

There used to be quite an extensive thread on Celebrity Lookalikes. In the days when Victoria 4 ruled the roost, celeb morphs used to be a much hotter topic than they are today. Nowadays? Not so much. Celebs are still seemingly a source of inspiration for many characters, but they aren't dead ringers and the vendors usually don't give the characters any tip-off names.

If you're talking about Genesis proper, I'd forget about your search because most vendors of paid and freebee goodies focus on Genesis 3. Instead, get the proper paid head morphs package and plenty of patience while spinning the dials. Mila's attractive, but her looks don't seem to be so unique that you wouldn't be able to approximate them through morphing. Also, look into different hair packages for sale here. Hairstyles are a big part of any celeb (or character's) look and can go a long way towards capturing their style.

Hello,

Could anyone point me to where I can find the hair, bikini and other assets as depicted in the she-freak v4 morphs. I have the morphs and Victoria 4.2 base but I'm a little stumped as to the rest.

http://www.daz3d.com/she-freak-v4

810 - Bedroom Dreams for Genesis 2 Females (Sku# 20625)
10432 - Elfen Citadel Platform Environments Pack (Rendo)
10099 - Young Teens 5 Justin (Sku# 15286)
447 - Anna HD for Victoria 7 (Sku# 34143)

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Well isn't this just waiting for a TOS violation.  My first time to play and out of all 11,520 installed products (Animals, toons, etc....) on the spread sheet THIS is what I got.  ROFLMAO.  Wish me luck!!

Oh, I can already picture that TOS-violating scene with an underage male besides. You'll definitely have to come up with a new idea!
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4. Pixie Perfect Poses for Izabella 7
5. Victoria 6 HD
6. Birthday Girl Hair for Genesis 2 Female(s)

Where is the subdivision setting in poser 2012? The genesis model is simplified compared to previous models like victoria 4 and definitedly needs subdivision before render. I saved the cr2 via Daz Studio so I can't use the subdivision option in DSON importer. If I turn on 'smooth' in render option, all figures in the scene are affected. But I can't find a subdivision option in the normal menu.

Edited to add the rest of the question to the body of the post

810 - Bedroom Dreams for Genesis 2 Females (Sku# 20625)
10432 - Elfen Citadel Platform Environments Pack (Rendo)
10099 - Young Teens 5 Justin (Sku# 15286)
447 - Anna HD for Victoria 7 (Sku# 34143)

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Well isn't this just waiting for a TOS violation.  My first time to play and out of all 11,520 installed products (Animals, toons, etc....) on the spread sheet THIS is what I got.  ROFLMAO.  Wish me luck!!

... Poser, 3delight (both the base and HSS)...

Just a side question...  What is this HSS version of 3Delight you refer to?  Is that what's in v4.9 now?  What is the difference?

He means shaders - the (Elite) Human Surface Shader was released as part of the Victoria 4 Elite morphs and textures, way back when, and offered consiferable enhancements over the default Daz Shader that had been used up to then. uberSurface is a further enhanced versions, both HSS and uberSurface are included with DS, as is the even newer Age of Armor SSS Shader that is used for most new 3Deoight skins at least.

OK, I think I got it, an elf not a wraith.

75% Sushmita, 50% Abdomen Size, and 100% Vanessa ears 1.

Midnight Club outfit, with some custom shaders (based on Phoebe shaders, and the attached diffuse checker maps). Samantha Hair, all stock settings and dials.

Bracelets/bangles from the Midnight Club outfit, stock settings. Earrings from Jewels at Dawn, all stock settings. Compass necklace from Necklace & Earring Collection, again all stock settings. Silver rings from Ring Collection, adjustment for black stripe... (load the "Stripe Band Mix 1" preset. Copy the silver settings from the "Stripe_Center" to the gold "Stripes_Sides" surface zone, then change diffuse color to black on the "Stripes_Sides", that's it.)

I think I got the alt shader settings much closer to the promos this time as well, that I am happy with.

Thank you @Chohole,  I was going to look up a tut on the forum basics lol, because I was unsure how to do that. When I click on the image attachement, it does not open up full size. These are small pics though, like 800 by 800 pixels, not sure if that has anything to do with it. Edit- Nevermind, i figured it out lol.
Thanks everyone for the welcome! :) I look forward to participating in the community.
@Knittingmommy, i will do it again and post the pic to show what i mean. Maybe it's just me lol! 
@TabascoJack, thank you and thanks for the advice! I messed with skin and hair last night. Got it a little better. 
I took the regular Victoria 7 skin materials that comes when you load her up and threw them into photoshop. This was my first attempt with fiddling with the skin and settings. I wanted a dirty/grungy look, and almost made zombie skin lol! I think it looks pretty cool. I want to show the skin on the body and I blocked out the nipples and the some of the breast but not sure if I can still post it? I'll redo it with a bikini. What I have doesn't show the legs anyways. So here is some headshots of the face with the edited skins, hair and settings and post processing. I wanted a darker and more aged/weathered look and i think it worked lol! I included a black and white one too. The other is the same setup minus the edited skins and hair and no post processing. Just the basic Iray victoria 7 skin and uber shading. I did not let it render completely. Only 4%. My finished edited ones were 15% My pc is pretty slow.. I posted these on facebook and it's nice that people thought it was real lol. 

 

https://www.daz3d.com/fwsa-keira-hd-for-victoria-7

Love the neckpiece on this, and can't find it!

Thank you

Again great images this month! Well done everyone!

There I have one portrait as an attempt in realism. Hope you like it.

Hallo Leute,

Dem "Little Melody" fehlt der "Schwung nach Innen" an den Haarspitzen. Das lässt sich zwar mittels Morphs auch auf schulterlang drehen, aber nur bei den vorderen seitlichen Strähnen, und die fallen da insgesamt auch weiterhin relativ gerade herab. Für mich sieht das eher nach nach dem Janna Hair for Genesis 2 Female(s) and Victoria 4 aus dem Aiko 6 Pro Bundle aus. Das bietet noch eine ganze Menge mehr an Morph-Optionen wie das "Little Melody". Da beide Frisuren von SWAM sind, kann man da aber nix falsch machen.

Das Janna Hair sieht in der Tat recht interessant aus. Wenn auch ich davon lediglich die Mesh ohne diese zu sehr Toon-mäßig aussehenden Textures brauchen würde. Volle Investition also uninteressant. Habe ja von Slosh den UHS. Aus der Basis habe ich mir dann verfeinerte Textures hergestellt und diverse alte Produkte nach iRay umgestellt.

Well, I was going to try to work on another cute elf, then this sort of happened.

Not exactly what I first had in mind, lol. I'll try the Efl idea later on.

I am happy with the alt shader settings for FW Sushmita, tho I may look at adjusting some things..

 The skin/mat is a kit bash too, as it's the product of me mixing the Genesis 3 base skin texture with the Victoria 7 skin texture in Photoshop. Here's my kit bashed character, Athyn:

 

Nice looking character, love the muscle tone. That skin blending is something I haven't thought of, will give that a try.

 

Here is an example. I have a winter scene I am working on. The figure is G3F, the jacket and boots are for G3F, the pants for V4, the top for Aiko 3, the scarf is for M4, the hair and cap are V4 that I had to remodel a bit

That's some seriously beautiful work!

Thanks, hopefully the full render will turn out ok once i get the environment finished.

I agree with MM, very cool looking outfit and character! :) I hope you show us the render when you're done!

Thanks. It's amazing how hard it is to find coats and jackets, especially ones that fit over breasts.

Here is the latest WIP of the environment, still a ways to go. I tried using geoshells for the snow covered trees, not sure I am happy with the effect though and it increased the file/texture sizes for instancing

Thank you! 

Your render is looking great! I really like the snow too. If you are interested in adding snow to clothes and objects, I recommend Let It Snow. I like it. :) It lets you add snow to clothes and objects and lets you add falling slow too.