Rasberri said:

Fettbemme said:

mermaid010 said:

Fettbemme that's a very cool render, I like it. I'm retired too, I spend my days doodling in Bryce and my better half with Crosswords and Sudoku. 

Yes Horo the best program will be the one you know the best.

That's right. We grow with the 3D software that works best for us. I was a graphic designer with pencil paper and acrylics. We didn't have computers in the old days. In the past I thought I need to know all 3D Software that there is. I started with Strata 3D back in 2000-ish something on a Apple Performa Plus. Then Amapi 3D 5. It was all Coverdisk freebies then. I even know when Blender was kosting money then. First Carrara on cover disk was version 5. That was the holy grail. Later 6 and 7 followed. By version 8 I had to buy it and got it with a huge discount. Glad I did. My wife when she was still alife said often can you stop that stuff? I in fact like it and was doing it anyway.

I can relate to your story here with coverdisk freebies. Nice render!

I too am retired and agree one must find things to exercise the noggin .. you know lest the rust begins to settle in... so I spend days doodling in Bryce, photoshop and an array of digital painting. However, my first love has always been sketching but love to get crafty in other projects like molding clay and sewing.  I have had Vue since a coverdisk freebie Vue d espirit I think version 2 and eventually bought early versions of Vue 7 and 11.  I am glad it is free as I wasn't going to spend good money on another software only to see it go like Adobe.. and do a subscription.  I downloaded both and imported a few plants into Bryce to toy around with--Some palms and papyrus. I like Bryce trees but this gives me some creative variety to play with... after all, it's my world.. I can do with it what I want.. as Bob Ross would say 

Nice Palmtrees

Yes of course Vue 2 on covermount. A lot has changed since version 2. 3DWorld I think it was. I don't get these mags anymore. I wish someone could say that with Bryce that a lot has changed. Yes they added IBL . Maybe it was a mistake that Corel gave up on it after Metacreations calling it off. To complete this list we shouldn't forget MojoWorld. I still have version 3.1.1 which was the very last update before it went off the radar. I don't use it anymore. It's way too slow. After I lost my license for Vue Pioneer when Cornucopia gave up and Bentley made that Adobe thing, I was giving up on the idea using Vue ever again. I'm glad it's free. Version 2023 is rocksolid. Apart from AI stuff I wouldn't know how to enhance a software like Vue. I would say it is very close to perfect what it can and does. Only thing Plantfactory is something I won't be spending time with. For me way too complicated stuff. 

Below some of my latest Vue stuff

Fettbemme said:

mermaid010 said:

Fettbemme that's a very cool render, I like it. I'm retired too, I spend my days doodling in Bryce and my better half with Crosswords and Sudoku. 

Yes Horo the best program will be the one you know the best.

That's right. We grow with the 3D software that works best for us. I was a graphic designer with pencil paper and acrylics. We didn't have computers in the old days. In the past I thought I need to know all 3D Software that there is. I started with Strata 3D back in 2000-ish something on a Apple Performa Plus. Then Amapi 3D 5. It was all Coverdisk freebies then. I even know when Blender was kosting money then. First Carrara on cover disk was version 5. That was the holy grail. Later 6 and 7 followed. By version 8 I had to buy it and got it with a huge discount. Glad I did. My wife when she was still alife said often can you stop that stuff? I in fact like it and was doing it anyway.

I can relate to your story here with coverdisk freebies. Nice render!

I too am retired and agree one must find things to exercise the noggin .. you know lest the rust begins to settle in... so I spend days doodling in Bryce, photoshop and an array of digital painting. However, my first love has always been sketching but love to get crafty in other projects like molding clay and sewing.  I have had Vue since a coverdisk freebie Vue d espirit I think version 2 and eventually bought early versions of Vue 7 and 11.  I am glad it is free as I wasn't going to spend good money on another software only to see it go like Adobe.. and do a subscription.  I downloaded both and imported a few plants into Bryce to toy around with--Some palms and papyrus. I like Bryce trees but this gives me some creative variety to play with... after all, it's my world.. I can do with it what I want.. as Bob Ross would say 

mermaid010 said:

Fettbemme that's a very cool render, I like it. I'm retired too, I spend my days doodling in Bryce and my better half with Crosswords and Sudoku. 

Yes Horo the best program will be the one you know the best.

That's right. We grow with the 3D software that works best for us. I was a graphic designer with pencil paper and acrylics. We didn't have computers in the old days. In the past I thought I need to know all 3D Software that there is. I started with Strata 3D back in 2000-ish something on a Apple Performa Plus. Then Amapi 3D 5. It was all Coverdisk freebies then. I even know when Blender was kosting money then. First Carrara on cover disk was version 5. That was the holy grail. Later 6 and 7 followed. By version 8 I had to buy it and got it with a huge discount. Glad I did. My wife when she was still alife said often can you stop that stuff? I in fact like it and was doing it anyway.

Horo said:

Fettbemme - when I saw that Vue (Vue d'Ésprit was the original name) and Plant Factory became freely available, I thought a bit about it and then decided to skip that generous offer. I have Carrara from version 3 up to 8.1 but hardly use it. Bryce has a Tree Lab, which is quite versatile but not very obvious to use. I have no experience with the one that comes with Carrara. I experimented with Arbaro a bit with quite nice results. I started Studio with version 0.82 and updated up to 4.8., and had experimented with Blender as well. Which is the best program? Answer: the one you know best.

I used to have Vue 8 I think it was (Pioneer with Render Module and Import ) Than they dashed the Cornucopia site and I had no more access to the old Email. So that was the end for me using Vue.

Glad it's free now. I don't use Plant factory. The nodes scare the crap out of me. I try to keep sane by using the Plants only, and they are a lot. Actually Plantfactory is something for nerds that need their daily challenge. Wanna see what Plantfactory looks under the hood? I'm doing fine with the trees that come with the Plant catalog. I like Vue but I'm not crazy to ruine my spare time with understanding Plantfactory. LOL

Bryce  has a good scattering tool like in Carrara. But with tree creation I look rather out of the window. It's way to hard for me to understand. I even shy away from the Material Editor in Bryce.

Fettbemme - when I saw that Vue (Vue d'Ésprit was the original name) and Plant Factory became freely available, I thought a bit about it and then decided to skip that generous offer. I have Carrara from version 3 up to 8.1 but hardly use it. Bryce has a Tree Lab, which is quite versatile but not very obvious to use. I have no experience with the one that comes with Carrara. I experimented with Arbaro a bit with quite nice results. I started Studio with version 0.82 and updated up to 4.8., and had experimented with Blender as well. Which is the best program? Answer: the one you know best.

mermaid010 said:

Thanks Fettbemme for the encouragement. Daz studio was always free but I still couldn't learn it, back in the days when I had a lot more grey cells. 

You are not alone with DAZ Studio learning curve. I admit, I gave up on it years and years ago. I did once in a while toy with it but found the program hyper unintuitive. Also as far as content management goes offers Blender momentarily the best solution. Also with Plugin development is Blender unmached. DS is like IClone without the Addon-Bandwagon. The UI is a cluttered mess. Carrara, Bryce even Blender is lightyears ahead of DS in terms of userfriendliness. Though the Material Editor in Bryce remains somewhat a mysterious thing I cant get my hands on. Carrara is much better in that regard. My opinion: Daz Studio is not designed for the artist. Artists think like Bryce or Carrara. Creative. But DS is in no way creative. In that regard it missed the mark. 

Bunyip02 said:

Fettbemme said:

PhilW said:

Carara was way ahead of its time and great fun to use, a shame it wasn't continued to be supported.  But glad you guys are still enjoying some of my old creations! I still use Carrara regularly for modelling stuff, even if they end up in Daz Studio.

I admit, mostly I toy around with Carrara. Main tool is Cinema 4D, Blender and now Vue. But still, Carrara won't be dismissed as it still has some tricks out of its sleeve. The surface replicator is a good scattering tool. Also the Shadow catcher is awesome which is my first goto when I want something real combined with 3D. You can't beat the Shadow Catcher in Carrara. The only thing I really do miss is a Luminence Channel in the Material Editor. Without, it really kinda sucks.

What are you trying to achieve in the Luminence Channel ?

Have you used the Glow Channel combined with Aura effect ?

 

Tip from a Carrara master - https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/177839/#Comment_177839

Glow Mix-Shader does it with Global Illumination 

one downside. if I put more than one Glow-Object in the scene, Carrara crawls to a halt which makes it impracticle compared to Cinema 4D or Blender

I was thinking of what Glow does in other 3D Apps like Cinema 4D. There it doesn't illuminate anything. That's why I didn't even try Glow.

It's there but I won't even consider using it. The render times and quality is not acceptable. Even with Interpolation turned off I still get splotches.

Cinema 4D

Carrara

Fettbemme said:

 the Shadow catcher is awesome which is my first goto when I want something real combined with 3D. You can't beat the Shadow Catcher in Carrara. 

Good point, I use the Shadow Catcher regularly.

Fettbemme said:

PhilW said:

Carara was way ahead of its time and great fun to use, a shame it wasn't continued to be supported.  But glad you guys are still enjoying some of my old creations! I still use Carrara regularly for modelling stuff, even if they end up in Daz Studio.

I admit, mostly I toy around with Carrara. Main tool is Cinema 4D, Blender and now Vue. But still, Carrara won't be dismissed as it still has some tricks out of its sleeve. The surface replicator is a good scattering tool. Also the Shadow catcher is awesome which is my first goto when I want something real combined with 3D. You can't beat the Shadow Catcher in Carrara. The only thing I really do miss is a Luminence Channel in the Material Editor. Without, it really kinda sucks.

What are you trying to achieve in the Luminence Channel ?

Have you used the Glow Channel combined with Aura effect ?

Tip from a Carrara master - https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/177839/#Comment_177839

Stezza said:

modelled in Carrara 

ha.. you crack me up Stezza... I AM FIBIAN... LOL!  Love how you always think out of the box.  Thanks for sharing.

PhilW said:

Carara was way ahead of its time and great fun to use, a shame it wasn't continued to be supported.  But glad you guys are still enjoying some of my old creations! I still use Carrara regularly for modelling stuff, even if they end up in Daz Studio.

I admit, mostly I toy around with Carrara. Main tool is Cinema 4D, Blender and now Vue. But still, Carrara won't be dismissed as it still has some tricks out of its sleeve. The surface replicator is a good scattering tool. Also the Shadow catcher is awesome which is my first goto when I want something real combined with 3D. You can't beat the Shadow Catcher in Carrara. The only thing I really do miss is a Luminence Channel in the Material Editor. Without, it really kinda sucks.

Carara was way ahead of its time and great fun to use, a shame it wasn't continued to be supported.  But glad you guys are still enjoying some of my old creations! I still use Carrara regularly for modelling stuff, even if they end up in Daz Studio.

NPR Moose - Carrara render using UltraScenery 2 render as a background image

NPR Cuban Red Macaw - Carrara render using UltraScenery 2 render as a background image

NPR Stezza's Ute - Carrara render using UltraScenery 2 render as a background image

Fettbemme said:

Fantastic work! Thanks for the discount. Much appreciated.

Agreed.  PhilW has long been a favorite Carrara vendor.  His "Carrara Realistic Seas" has long had a permanent place in my browser and most of my animations.

Muscleman said:

Salve ragazzi, ma un buon programma o plug-in per creare alberi , fiori etc, senza diventare pazzo anche nel texturing per poi inserirli in futuri progetti, dove potrei trovarlo? grazie a prescindere

Puoi usare Carrara, se ce l'hai. C'è una "stanza" apposita dove puoi modificare tronco, rami, foglie e tutto il resto.

Esporti in OBJ e cuoci le textures in una sola cartella.

Altrimenti agguanti questo: https://www.evolved-software.com/treeit/treeit

Quest'ultimo lo trovi perfino su Steam.

PhilW said:

Speculativism said:

Slight problem.

I do still use Carrara in 2024 so I was interested in Night and Day City which is currently on sale in the store but the instance randomizer plugin isn't downloadable from either the Sparrowhawk site or the Wayback machine.

Is there anywhere else I can get a copy of the plugin?

Alternatively, is the Night and Day City still useful without the plugin? 

Here you go, just put the files in your Carara8.5/Extensions folder. Thanks for your interest in the product. The Instance Randomizer was developed for Carrara by Sparrowhawke at my request - I wish we had something similar for Daz Studio, it enables a lot of clever stuff!

Thanks Phil!

Speculativism said:

Slight problem.

I do still use Carrara in 2024 so I was interested in Night and Day City which is currently on sale in the store but the instance randomizer plugin isn't downloadable from either the Sparrowhawk site or the Wayback machine.

Is there anywhere else I can get a copy of the plugin?

Alternatively, is the Night and Day City still useful without the plugin? 

Here you go, just put the files in your Carara8.5/Extensions folder. Thanks for your interest in the product. The Instance Randomizer was developed for Carrara by Sparrowhawke at my request - I wish we had something similar for Daz Studio, it enables a lot of clever stuff!

Slight problem.

I do still use Carrara in 2024 so I was interested in Night and Day City which is currently on sale in the store but the instance randomizer plugin isn't downloadable from either the Sparrowhawk site or the Wayback machine.

Is there anywhere else I can get a copy of the plugin?

Alternatively, is the Night and Day City still useful without the plugin? 

UPDATE:

Not sure why, but I am now finally able to launch GoZ from Studio and transfer my file to ZB.

However, ZB is still not playing nice, even when I -- in Menu/Pref/GoZ -- manually set the path to Studio, it won't send the file back to Studio.

It still gives this error message:

"GoZBrushToDazStudio.app cannot be opened" with the following details:

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Process:               GoZBrushToDAZStudio [15796]
Path:                  /Users/Shared/*/GoZBrushToDAZStudio.app/Contents/MacOS/GoZBrushToDAZStudio
Identifier:            com.daz3d.carrara.GoZBrushToDAZStudio.macho.1.0.0.0
Version:               1.0 (1)
Code Type:             X86-64 (Translated)
Parent Process:        ??? [1]
Responsible:           GoZBrushToDAZStudio [15796]
User ID:               503
Date/Time:             2024-06-21 11:59:25.432 +0200
OS Version:            macOS 11.4 (20F71)
Report Version:        12
Anonymous UUID:        4AFA2E88-24A3-52A5-4727-43D31D605F7E
Time Awake Since Boot: 51000 seconds
System Integrity Protection: enabled
Crashed Thread:        0
Exception Type:        EXC_CRASH (SIGABRT)
Exception Codes:       0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000
Exception Note:        EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY
Termination Reason:    DYLD, [0x1] Library missing
Application Specific Information:
dyld: launch, loading dependent libraries
Dyld Error Message:
  dyld: Using shared cache: 482F0EF9-B940-309E-8378-2B670C55A83E
Library not loaded: @rpath/libdzcore.dylib
  Referenced from: /Users/Shared/*/GoZBrushToDAZStudio.app/Contents/MacOS/GoZBrushToDAZStudio
  Reason: image not found
 

Thanks for troubleshooting this with me!

(1) The Config.txt only says, APPS_UNLOCKED = TRUE

(2) The GoZ Info.txt has no path in it:

NAME            =    "DAZStudio64"
GOZ_VERSION        =    1
EXTENSION        =    ".GoZ"
TAMPLATE        =    "GoZ Complete Binary.GoZ"
LOCATE_COMMAND    =   "GoZLocateDAZStudio.sh"
EDIT_COMMAND    =    "GoZBrushToDAZStudio.app"

(3) GoZLocateDazStudiuo.sh reads:

cd /Users/Shared/Pixologic/GoZApps/DAZStudio64
../../GoZBrush/GoZLocateApp.app/Contents/MacOS/GoZLocateApp DAZStudio64 "DAZStudio.app"

(4) And finally, the GoZ..app, when I double click it returns an error popup that reads as follows:

Process:               GoZBrushToDAZStudio [14862]
Path:                  /Users/Shared/*/GoZBrushToDAZStudio.app/Contents/MacOS/GoZBrushToDAZStudio
Identifier:            com.daz3d.carrara.GoZBrushToDAZStudio.macho.1.0.0.0
Version:               ???
Code Type:             X86-64 (Translated)
Parent Process:        ??? [1]
Responsible:           GoZBrushToDAZStudio [14862]
User ID:               503
Date/Time:             2024-06-21 10:58:15.855 +0200
OS Version:            macOS 11.4 (20F71)
Report Version:        12
Anonymous UUID:        4AFA2E88-24A3-52A5-4727-43D31D605F7E
Time Awake Since Boot: 48000 seconds
System Integrity Protection: enabled
Crashed Thread:        0
Exception Type:        EXC_CRASH (SIGABRT)
Exception Codes:       0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000
Exception Note:        EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY
Termination Reason:    DYLD, [0x1] Library missing
Application Specific Information:
dyld: launch, loading dependent libraries
Dyld Error Message:
  dyld: Using shared cache: 482F0EF9-B940-309E-8378-2B670C55A83E
Library not loaded: @rpath/libdzcore.dylib
  Referenced from: /Users/Shared/*/GoZBrushToDAZStudio.app/Contents/MacOS/GoZBrushToDAZStudio
  Reason: image not found

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***So, there is a two way problem here: zbrush does not see the plugin and the plugin can't find zbrush, but both are there!!****

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Lastly, regarding the zbrush trouble-shooting executable ....

It says nothing, just lists my hardware.

Interesting though, when I launched the "GoZ_for_ZBrush_Installer_OSX.app", it reinsttalled whatever it installs and then I tried lauching the bridge again from inside Studio. This time I didn't get an error message to check the installation, but .... I got nothing .... it didn't connect to or launch ZB ... nothing .... which is something (progress), but obviously doesn't solve the problem