w_r_brook_ec9f3e956e said:

Ok, so I just bought and loaded this product, restarted Daz Studio and reloaded Genesis 9 figure to be sure of a stable base. Most of the morphs do not work - you slide them and nothing happens, you type in a percent and it just reverts to 0%. As StarLabz notes, I suspect this is because the head and body morphs have not yet been released, yet these are not listed as requirements. What a train wreck this week has been. One screw up after another. I have full confidence that Zev0 will sort this out, but I really cannot do much with V9 or G9 until these issues are sorted out and a pose converter released.

Hi. Did you read the pdf? There is a section that explains this under usage tips.

"If you dial any of the Youth specific morphs while the Youth Base Morph is at 0 value, you will
see no changes to those dials. They are designed only to activate once the Youth Base Morph
has a dialed value. If you try to dial up any of them they will have a value based on how
much you tried to dial it up, but will only reflect once the Base Youth Morph has been activated.

When using any Neutralize Morphs, they must not exceed the value of the Youth Base Morph in
order for them to work correctly. Secondly, some morphs will auto undial to prevent stacking.
For Example -  if you have GU Youth Neutralize Head dialed there is no need for the
GU Youth Neutralize Nose dial to be active as well."

w_r_brook_ec9f3e956e said:

Ok, so I just bought and loaded this product, restarted Daz Studio and reloaded Genesis 9 figure to be sure of a stable base. Most of the morphs do not work - you slide them and nothing happens, you type in a percent and it just reverts to 0%. As StarLabz notes, I suspect this is because the head and body morphs have not yet been released, yet these are not listed as requirements. What a train wreck this week has been. One screw up after another. I have full confidence that Zev0 will sort this out, but I really cannot do much with V9 or G9 until these issues are sorted out and a pose converter released.

Most of the morphs require 'GU Youth Based Morph' to be dialled in, even just 0.001. But, yes the product is not usable until the supposed requirement of G9 body morphs is actually released.

Hi. Let me address the breast issue. First of all in the promos, I used Genesis 8 clothing since no Genesis 9 clothing was available at the time of developement, so the projection of the chest looks a bit strong. I couldn't dial up a flat chest because the clothing crumbled in that area on that top. Secondly, instead of a native breast gone morph, this Growing Up works with Daz's breast gone morph. It is supported there. I can add a native one for this package if that is what people want. What will also be added is a projection morph for clothing, specially for flat chested characters, but in order to do that I need more native Genesis 9 clothing sets to test. Regardless, I will add a native flat chested morph since I am being spammed with this request in my PM's. Thank you all for the support.

Would someone, please, translate WendyLuvzCatz explanation into a proper list of instructions without acronyms and abbreviations that are meaningless to many of us? E.g. "Dial in clone shape" How? Where is that? I've been using DS regularly since v1 and I do not know what that is. "dial up Dolb hide G8M" What is Dolb? "select morph edit mode ERC freeze" What is ERC? I appreciate WLC's expertice, and their willingness to try to help. But the explanation is just too terse and cryptic to be of much use to me.

takezo_3001 said:

Gordig said:

I'm playing around with it now, and it looks like the Growing Up morph largely overrides the masculine and feminine body sliders, and the GU breast morphs just move the breasts side to side. Seems pretty half-baked to me, and hopefully it gets a quick update.

I can confirm that I have the same issue, I mean sure, worse comes to worst I'll just Zbrush the issue away, but there should be no need; I'm hoping that it's not a DAZ mandate, which would entirely defeat the product's purpose! To be clear, I'm not saying it is or isn't a DAZ mandate, just hoping it's not.

 Agreed on the issue, and that there should be no need to fix things ourselves (unless we're attempting to do anything out of scope of the original product). Any self-made chest fix will require extensive JCMs for shoulder movement and spine 3 (lower chest) and spine 2 (upper abdomen) bending. 

I could bet the missing Body morph pack is the Problem there 

Binaries Torturer said:

One small problem. All the 5-year-olds I've known have been flat chested. These are not. I guess we'll have to wait until the Genesis 9 Body Morphs are released for this to be fixed.

Yeah, my experience so far is that the Growing Up morph almost entirely overrides the masculine and feminine sliders, and the slider doesn't appear to affect the chest at all.

nwleee_a52bfead84 said:

shadowhawk1 said:

nwleee_a52bfead84 said:

I'm glad I'm not the only one disappointed with the way Daz rolled out G9.  First of all the Victoria 9 character....two skin choices, freckled and vitiligo?!?!  I will never use vitiligo (and I read a lot of other people won't either), I just don't understand why they didn't offer freckled and just a regular skin texture (with no moles, freckles, blemishes, warts, or big patches of different colored skin).
Also not releasing a morph pack, with body and face morphs is also hard to understand. Instead we get a "starter pack" with a million choices of eyebrows and eyelashes.
As shadowhawk1 said, this release is a train wreck. Poor planning, poor implementation.

LOL I was jsut going to reply about the calling me Shadowhack1 when you corrected it. Hadn't had a good laugh like that since... Well the release of Victoria 9 :D 

To be honest, I feel for all the people that bought the pre-release bundle in good faith not knowing what was in it and are now stuck behind a gate as all of those that purchased the same bundle the day of release are getting to use her. I think daz has finally trumped their storefront disaster.

Sorry about the misspelling, I'm due to get new glasses soon.  But glad you got a laugh.
Anyway, now they have Toon Kids and Fantasy Ear morphs for G9 - But no essential (normal) body and head morphs yet.  There is "Werwulf for Genesis 9" that looks like it might have some muscle morphs in it, but it's probably one slider adjustment for the whole body.   Priorities!  Priorities!   (And no I'm not a pateint kind of person)

LOL no need to apologize, like I said I thought it was funny. Yeah I see they are coming out with more and more stuff, but strangely no morph packs. This train just keeps picking up speed. 

Not sure if PA's ever check the product suggestion thread... as I am sure they have plenty of their own ideas for projects... 
BUT
What I would like to do is

1) Pick a prop/character from my Library, load/morph/scale as normal
2) Click a "Blister-it" button that gives me a choice of round/square/rectangular shape that I adjust to cover the object
3) Click on a "Package-it" button, and have that item atutomatically (magic?) generate a skin/shell that looks like blister packing. 
4) Click "Advertise-it" which lets me change the jpg for the backing card to our own custom jpg.
This is what I am talking about...

Gordig said:

I'm playing around with it now, and it looks like the Growing Up morph largely overrides the masculine and feminine body sliders, and the GU breast morphs just move the breasts side to side. Seems pretty half-baked to me, and hopefully it gets a quick update.

I can confirm that I have the same issue, I mean sure, worse comes to worst I'll just Zbrush the issue away, but there should be no need; I'm hoping that it's not a DAZ mandate, which would entirely defeat the product's purpose! To be clear, I'm not saying it is or isn't a DAZ mandate, just hoping it's not.

EDIT: My issue is that two breast morphs stay enabled when they should be turned off when the youth morph is applied, the GU_body_cbs_Breast_Gone_Null, and the GU_body_cbs_Breast_Small_Null.

shadowhawk1 said:

nwleee_a52bfead84 said:

I'm glad I'm not the only one disappointed with the way Daz rolled out G9.  First of all the Victoria 9 character....two skin choices, freckled and vitiligo?!?!  I will never use vitiligo (and I read a lot of other people won't either), I just don't understand why they didn't offer freckled and just a regular skin texture (with no moles, freckles, blemishes, warts, or big patches of different colored skin).
Also not releasing a morph pack, with body and face morphs is also hard to understand. Instead we get a "starter pack" with a million choices of eyebrows and eyelashes.
As shadowhawk1 said, this release is a train wreck. Poor planning, poor implementation.

LOL I was jsut going to reply about the calling me Shadowhack1 when you corrected it. Hadn't had a good laugh like that since... Well the release of Victoria 9 :D 

To be honest, I feel for all the people that bought the pre-release bundle in good faith not knowing what was in it and are now stuck behind a gate as all of those that purchased the same bundle the day of release are getting to use her. I think daz has finally trumped their storefront disaster.

Sorry about the misspelling, I'm due to get new glasses soon.  But glad you got a laugh.
Anyway, now they have Toon Kids and Fantasy Ear morphs for G9 - But no essential (normal) body and head morphs yet.  There is "Werwulf for Genesis 9" that looks like it might have some muscle morphs in it, but it's probably one slider adjustment for the whole body.   Priorities!  Priorities!   (And no I'm not a pateint kind of person)

RL_Media said:

yipes, from the promo, it seemes even the 5 year old girl has some breasts, unless it's just a horrible fit on the shirts or somethin. also all the boys look like they include boobage as well

I'm playing around with it now, and it looks like the Growing Up morph largely overrides the masculine and feminine body sliders, and the GU breast morphs just move the breasts side to side. Seems pretty half-baked to me, and hopefully it gets a quick update.

nwleee_a52bfead84 said:

I'm glad I'm not the only one disappointed with the way Daz rolled out G9.  First of all the Victoria 9 character....two skin choices, freckled and vitiligo?!?!  I will never use vitiligo (and I read a lot of other people won't either), I just don't understand why they didn't offer freckled and just a regular skin texture (with no moles, freckles, blemishes, warts, or big patches of different colored skin).
Also not releasing a morph pack, with body and face morphs is also hard to understand. Instead we get a "starter pack" with a million choices of eyebrows and eyelashes.
As shadowhawk1 said, this release is a train wreck. Poor planning, poor implementation.

LOL I was jsut going to reply about the calling me Shadowhack1 when you corrected it. Hadn't had a good laugh like that since... Well the release of Victoria 9 :D 

To be honest, I feel for all the people that bought the pre-release bundle in good faith not knowing what was in it and are now stuck behind a gate as all of those that purchased the same bundle the day of release are getting to use her. I think daz has finally trumped their storefront disaster.

I'm glad I'm not the only one disappointed with the way Daz rolled out G9.  First of all the Victoria 9 character....two skin choices, freckled and vitiligo?!?!  I will never use vitiligo (and I read a lot of other people won't either), I just don't understand why they didn't offer freckled and just a regular skin texture (with no moles, freckles, blemishes, warts, or big patches of different colored skin).
Also not releasing a morph pack, with body and face morphs is also hard to understand. Instead we get a "starter pack" with a million choices of eyebrows and eyelashes.
As shadowhawk1 said, this release is a train wreck. Poor planning, poor implementation.

Pendraia said:

The render still needs some work due to white artifacts but the morphs on the head are mine with V9 Body and one of the base textures.

*SNIP

Nice face morph and scene, yeah those artefacts are pretty jarring, but still a great piece!

Problem fixed.   I went and found EVERY file, folder and file content that referenced that Victoria 9 HD, deleted them, and ran DIM.   It picked up that Victoria 9 HD was missing.  I reinstalled.  And now all looks good.

I did find in the .json file for that product it said "pre-release", but, that was one of the files I deleted.  

What I suspect...

I suspect I manually installed a folder from a freebie morph for V9 that I should have inspected the file structure, and as a result, it wrote over those files with the data from the creator's install.  (That's a pet peeve with me, that 3rd party content providers have no clue on how to package their files.   Many times, I'm too trusting and if it the folder has the right name, I just copy it.)

Lesson learned:   Be more careful when you get something from a 3rd party source.  As a student who studied Djiksra's Software Quality Assurance methods and then implemented those in the real world post graduation, I get real frustrated with vendors ... even with providing free content... don't follow basic common sense.

If I feel up to it tomorrow, I just might go searching for that zip file if I kept it around.  I'd sure like to confirm my suspicion, let the maker know, and warn others.   Again, this right now is just a suspicion.

rosseliani said:

G9 starter essentials

15 morphs I made today

Ksu Hair by Rosseliani (WIP)

Cayley One Piece by 3D Universe

Nice work, yeah it's quite the challenge to sculpt with this mesh as the UVs don't follow the topography of the human figure as much as other UVs from previous generations, so you'll have to know just where the bones are and how the muscles relate and follow them, particularly if you're going for accuracy over stylistic body morphs!

I tried a glute morph and whoa, looks like I'll have to go back to the drawing board as my glute morph looks horrible!

i just did that:  used gen9 development figure in base resolution, used a magnet to lenghten the nose, saved the morph to the figure, deleted the magnet, exported the figure as obj, loaded it with morph loader, and the morph loaded fine.  i had that happen recently working with other morphs, and i was getting no error and no effect.  there were several things going on, but finally it turned out i had incidentally forgotten to set the mesh to base when i exported it to blender.  it should have mentioned that there was a mismatch, but it did not in that case.  the way i figured it out was by looking at the files themselves, and the sizes were off.  ah!  also, there was an issue with a few added lines inside the files at another point in my journey, which i found by opening them in notepad+ and checking the line length. it turns out i had exported from blender with a hidden cube tucked away in there. 

anyway, i would check the file sizes, and the number of lines in each file.  if they match, your morph should at least register.

Twilight76 said:

The "Missing" Morphs are from the typical Genesis Body Morph Pack that is not released at the Moment.
Dont know why the Morphs takes longer than V9.

TheRetiredSailor said:

My impression is that those morphs are not included for the base figure, but are on the G9 Base Shorts.  To your question, I do not have those morphs for the base G9 character.

That's what I originally thought (shapes in a pack that hasn't been released yet). I just thought that the installtion of G9 on my system got screwed up and saved everything somewhere else (or not at all).

Thank you for the replies. *Fingers crossed* the head, body, and expression morph packs will be released sooner, rather than later.

i would recommend just trying any other morph, other than that possibly much more complicated system you are using there.  perhaps make just a long nose morph, export it, bring it back in.  if that doesn't work, that's where the problem is.