Richard Haseltine said:

Charlie Judge said:

Genesis 9 Body shapes and Genesis 9 Head Shapes are still at the prohibitive high price for non-PAs. When will they be available at a reasonable cost?

Compare the list with the list in Genesis 9 Starter Essentials. Assuming that is right and not a mis-copy it looks as if we are getting the morph-pack equivalents free (I have sent in a query to double-check).

Sorry, the morph list is much shorter - I was thrown by the other items in the list or something.

Jay Versluis said:

I've been messing around with custom morphs in ZBrush and the figure is much easier to work with than G8 for me. I haven't tried making a bigger character yet, but this is Victoria 9 with ZBrush morphs and I gave her a significantly bigger waistline and a bigger belly. There was a little bit of the usual folding when a character doesn't have a corrective morph for unusual shapes, but it was much easier to smooth out.

That's fantastic @plasma_ring!! Thank you for sharing

Acutally, the shape looks really natural. I have a feeling -- just from the introduction we've had so far -- that our figures in this generation will look more natural overall -- better proportions, better bending and flexing, less exaggerated features (e.g. breast size). I'm really excited for this! 

I've been messing around with custom morphs in ZBrush and the figure is much easier to work with than G8 for me. I haven't tried making a bigger character yet, but this is Victoria 9 with ZBrush morphs and I gave her a significantly bigger waistline and a bigger belly. There was a little bit of the usual folding when a character doesn't have a corrective morph for unusual shapes, but it was much easier to smooth out.

That's fantastic @plasma_ring!! Thank you for sharing

I have bought ZBrush to use fibermesh hair.

And I successfully have sent fibermesh hair to DAZ using GoZ.

The fibermesh hair stretches following morph of parent figure as intended using Transfer Utility.

However, it troubles me with extreme stretching following pose of parent figure.

When G81M raises his arm, his fibermesh armpit hair breaks.

I have tried to find solution about this issue, but I could not do it well.

Could you teach me where can I learn to solve about unexpected stretch of fibermesh hair from ZBrush?

"Che poi non capisco il senso di fare i morph doppi maschile/femminile quando bastava farne 1 dove a sinistra hai forme femminili, a destra maschili (o viceversa) "

Che devi fare, il barone Ashura? 

plasma_ring said:

weiglh said:

I also have the issue that I can’t download the items from the pre-order bundle. I also created a ticket about it. But judging from the posts here it seems that it is a general issue.

Does anyone understand the policy behind the Body Morphs? In the past it was possible to get body morphs to adjust your figures body shape, or to make it look older, or younger. The corresponding packages came for round about US$20.00 each. But for Genesis 9 I only found merchant resource packages at costs of US$ 9999.95 each!

Is this right? Do they no longer allow common users to modify the characters they bought? Do we have to live with just what merchants will provide us?

If so, then I wonder if the people at DAZ are still living on the same planet as I.

No, they just haven't released the standard morph packages yet. Those have always been optional anyway and were never required for the basic morphing functionality to work. Also modifying these characters is their primary functionality, so this is a pretty wild scenario regardless. 

These packages are for commercial vendors to create characters to sell, we mere mortals are waiting for the standard packages, that we assume are coming, to drop.

weiglh said:

I also have the issue that I can’t download the items from the pre-order bundle. I also created a ticket about it. But judging from the posts here it seems that it is a general issue.

Does anyone understand the policy behind the Body Morphs? In the past it was possible to get body morphs to adjust your figures body shape, or to make it look older, or younger. The corresponding packages came for round about US$20.00 each. But for Genesis 9 I only found merchant resource packages at costs of US$ 9999.95 each!

Is this right? Do they no longer allow common users to modify the characters they bought? Do we have to live with just what merchants will provide us?

If so, then I wonder if the people at DAZ are still living on the same planet as I.

No, they just haven't released the standard morph packages yet. Those have always been optional anyway and were never required for the basic morphing functionality to work. Also modifying these characters is their primary functionality, so this is a pretty wild scenario regardless. 

Charlie Judge said:

Genesis 9 Body shapes and Genesis 9 Head Shapes are still at the prohibitive high price for non-PAs. When will they be available at a reasonable cost?

Compare the list with the list in Genesis 9 Starter Essentials. Assuming that is right and not a mis-copy it looks as if we are getting the morph-pack equivalents free (I have sent in a query to double-check).

scorpio said:

Are there any Morphs for G9 yet, body and head morphs they usually come out at release.

The official Daz morphs aren't out yet, but there's a Zeddicus morph/pose pack on the main sales page. 

donavanneilart said:

beregar said:

donavanneilart said:

Guys, V9 and the Genesis 9 figure are great. Victoria 9 is like Victoria 8.1 on steroids, and do you see how beautiful and natural the arm bend is on just the base figure?!

Eh, they look good but I'm just wondering how well they will hold up when you dial in big characters like the Brute and Swole - which hopefully will make their way to Gen9 as well, seeing that I do use those characters a lot. I mostly do fantasy themed renders as opposed to contemporary and realistic ones (for that I can always step out into the real world...). Gen8 had problems even with big but still realistic bodybuilder type characters. Especially if you were to get, say, a good bicep flex.

I wonder if they managed to resolve the problem with big bellied characters and bends, too. Real bellies just don't behave the way they currently do if you bend character forward... though I guess this would require soft body dynamics rather than just being something you can fix with good bends.

Yeah, those are really great examples of specific cases that have been a problem in the past. I'm hoping since the bends are really well done out of the box for this generation that it means they function better in general. Definitely look forward to seeing how they work with more unusual characters and body types. I hope you will test it and let us know soon, either with something custom or once some of the bigger characters (as you said -- hopefully) do make their way to Gen9. 

I've been messing around with custom morphs in ZBrush and the figure is much easier to work with than G8 for me. I haven't tried making a bigger character yet, but this is Victoria 9 with ZBrush morphs and I gave her a significantly bigger waistline and a bigger belly. There was a little bit of the usual folding when a character doesn't have a corrective morph for unusual shapes, but it was much easier to smooth out.

johnjdesigns108 said:

Great VIP treatment! I ordered during the original stream event. Never again.

Same.  And no morph packs for Genesis 9 yet, either.  Disappointing.

That bundle sure is underwhelming...
1 hair (a very nice hair, but only 1)
3 outfits but none of them useful for day to day casual wear looks. Gotta buy the OOT set if you want that. (The OOT clothes are pretty good though)
1 pose set that is well done (it's Zeddicus after all!) but is fairly specific.
Some makeup which may be useful.
Some expressions which are nice.
No other characters. Not sure on the status of anatomical elements. No casual outfits. No morph packs.
And, of course, I show as having purchased the bundle but none of the items in it show as purchases and I can't download anything. I guess I'll give it a couple of hours and see if it fixes on its own before turning in a ticket.

L'ho provato al momento a pranzo, un paio di impressioni:

- il G9 così come caricato è orribile.. gli devi mettere per forza dei morph sennò ha una "fisicità" orribile
- Non ci sono morph per migliorare la sua fisicità.. puoi mettere dettagli di asimmetria ma se vuoi il seno più gonfio, gli addominali più scolpiti o il sedere più a mandolino non lo puoi fare. Che poi non capisco il senso di fare i morph doppi maschile/femminile quando bastava farne 1 dove a sinistra hai forme femminili, a destra maschili (o viceversa) 
- pure io non ho i genitali.. però ho le mutande (sia versione maschile che femminile)
- almeno ti danno un bel set vario di sopracciglia.. peccato per i capelli, classico taglio da gender-fluid
- 3 skin di base per ogni sesso più 2 per creare trucchi...
Dopo cena provo a creare il primo morph.. vediamo come va.

The figure is an in-beteween between the male and female shape. Go to the shaping tab, there should be a slider for the male/female morph.

Hi to all. I have problem with custom morph for genesis 8 female characther. Empty morph make small but not accepted influence on whole model. I importing base genesis 8 figure to Blender, not making any changes, exporting figure back to Daz studio as morph, and when I change morph influence it destore whole figure mesh a bit. I add vidio of issue. Can anybody give advice how to avoid it?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/12X93JjW36iFpAtQFB6nl87F3i4nGCb0-/view?usp=sharing

Kainjy said:

 come non detto...sono appena usciti i G9, li potete scaricare dal DIM. Stasera gli darò un'occhio. Intanto ci sono questi pacchetti au prezzo VERAMENTE CONVENIENTE: 

https://www.daz3d.com/genesis-9-head-shapes-merchant-resource E https://www.daz3d.com/genesis-9-body-shapes-merchant-resource

 

Vedo! Ora lo provo e vediamo se l'hanno imbroccata giusta per una volta.

Quanto ai prodotti convenienti, è normale che costicchino! Sono Merchant Resources alla fine, ci puoi fare i milioni mixandoli e vendendo i morph!

HLEET_3D said:

Genesis 9 doesn't support G8 and G8.1 poses ; expressions ; a lot of outfits are bugged too ... oh nevermind this is "normal" I guess
The G8 and G8.1 breast and glute morph neither ... NOOOO ! T.T

During the first presentation of Victory9 Jay showed that Gen9 has a totaly different bone structure, with various bones named differently. You need some tools to apply older poses to gen9. Jay stated that ManFriday is worlking on such a tool, and I know that RiversoftArt is also creating such a tool. 

Genesis 9 doesn't support G8 and G8.1 poses ; expressions ; a lot of outfits are bugged too ... oh nevermind this is "normal" I guess
The G8 and G8.1 breast and glute morph neither ... NOOOO ! T.T

I'm also getting all the load failures that others have reported this morning with Victoria 9 HD. Other points to note - there are almost no body morphs, almost no head morphs, no expressions (at all), and no alternative texture options for eyes, lips, makeup etc. There DO appear to be 'anatomical details' in terms of textures - there are load icons in the character folder. But they fail due to the textures being missing. So I can only assume that the usual packages will follow in due course with the morph sets, the pro pack with anatomical details, and expression packs. I note that some expressions and makeup options are in the store, unclear whether these are the 'standard' set. But the body, head and expression morphs appear to be absent. Somewhat disappointed this morning. Not least with the load errors - this isn't rocket science to test the installer on a clean test machine.

...apparently as the Daz+ sale ended early this year and now we're going to see a steady onslaught of Genesis9 content.  

I'm no longer in a position to start from square one anymore having to dump hundreds into morph shaping, skin/material resource, along with new characters, hair, and clothing content all over again to make it useful for custom character development. I haven't even bothered much at all with G8.1 and only have a modest library of content and resources for G8 (primarily the more "unique" characters) most of which I picked up on sale after the introduction of 8.1.