Catherine3678ab said:

This way gives V9 her own day of glory so to speak ;-)

I'm fairly sure that the morph bundles, etc. will follow over the next weeks, months, etc. as they usually do.

I for one am not disappointed with the Bundle although a little surprized that the a.e. have to be yet another purchase - but the price isn't bad at all. And for those down the road in time I'm sure they will appreciate that they don't have to shell out for a full Pro bundle just to get a set.

That might be one way to look at it, but I have to disagree. Genesis 8 at least offered some compatible features with G3, you could drop most G3 skins right on 8. Poses would work, and only needed a small adjustment. With 9, however, few things work on G9. You can't drop your old skins on it. Poses do not work at all. So people are truly starting all over again, and we have to remember that we have not had to start over again since 2017.

I had to look, and Genesis 8 launched on October 12, 2017. So it has been exactly 5 years since Genesis 8 launched. And frankly, people got used to Genesis 8 being "the" Daz model. People who had stuck to Victoria 4 for ages finally moved on to Genesis 8. That is what Genesis 8 accomplished. Also keep in mind that Daz was doing some wild bundling in the Genesis 8 early days. Remember how buying a bundle they gifted like 2 or even 3 Pro bundles with it? This really pushed people to take the leap that might not otherwise. I was one of them.

I also don't feel the bundle is really offering anything. One single hair, one single pose pack, 3 very not everyday clothing items (unless you wear a bikini or fetish wear everyday day), expressions, and a make up pack. It is a pretty sparse bundle. When you look at past bundles I see more in the older bundles. Victoria 8 has 2 hairs, 2 pose packs, FIVE outfits covering more variety, expressions, and 2 extra characters. V8 also had makeup included with her base, not sold separately. Granted, I suppose the makeup product with V9 has more stuff, but still, it is sold separately and considered one of of the products included with the bundle.

That just doesn't drive value to me.

So now Genesis 9 is starting over in many ways, and I would bet some good money that a lot of people are going to wait. 

I like that Genesis 9 has 4 male and 4 female skins, that is pretty cool. So there's that. But I am talking about the Victoria 9 bundle itself. So after playing with these I am just sitting here thinking why would I even need Victoria 9 anyway? It is just not compelling to me. Victoria 9 is not ugly, but I am just not into her all that much. Maybe someday I'll get the character by itself.

Mada said:

yea the template would be much better to use. I would try exporting an obj instead and use that with the templates

Do you mean use the OBJ I exported from MD with the Transfer Utility in DS, just like we have done for G8?

The base characters are, like all the previous Genesis generations, rather blah.  The male character looks almost the same as the female character, the only difference being the texture maps have beard shadow.  It's nice that there is a variety of skin colors to choose from but all the characters look the same. Since it is likely 3-6 months before the DAZ male characters start to show up, I hope that the basic morph packs (head, body, expression) appear soon.  I would like to have something to play with in Genesis 9.  

thd777 said:

Pendraia said:

Anyone know what causes this? Is it simply a setting I need to change?

That's most likely caused by the hair cap intersecting with the forehead.  Look for a morph in the hair to adjust it. In OOT hairs it's usually called "forehead depth" or similar. A few percent will fix it. 
ciao

TD

Thanks I'll give that a try.

Bunyip02 said:

WendyLuvsCatz said:

Bunyip02 said:

WendyLuvsCatz said:

mmm wonder why mine fail to import, shall try my other computer Win10, was my Win 7

same thing i/0 error

maybe upload your eye duf (it's just a character preset so OK)

Here you go, was for the female morph applied to one - also shaders need some work to get to operate okay.

 

works 

I wonder why mine doesn't though, 2 computers, 2 installs, 2 libraries 

mmm D|S4.21? 

Good to hear that it works for you !!!

Am running DAZ Studio 4.10

AHa

that could be the secret sauce, I have 4.11 on my Win7 but used the 4.21 beta 

same error basic wear but autofitted stuffs saved as support assets work

and grew a nice mane of dynamic hair on him (simulated animation ) Mimic plugin works with 8.1 configuration dmc too!

Pendraia said:

Anyone know what causes this? Is it simply a setting I need to change?

That's most likely caused by the hair cap intersecting with the forehead.  Look for a morph in the hair to adjust it. In OOT hairs it's usually called "forehead depth" or similar. A few percent will fix it. 
ciao

TD

WendyLuvsCatz said:

Bunyip02 said:

WendyLuvsCatz said:

mmm wonder why mine fail to import, shall try my other computer Win10, was my Win 7

same thing i/0 error

maybe upload your eye duf (it's just a character preset so OK)

Here you go, was for the female morph applied to one - also shaders need some work to get to operate okay.

 

works 

I wonder why mine doesn't though, 2 computers, 2 installs, 2 libraries 

mmm D|S4.21? 

Good to hear that it works for you !!!

Am running DAZ Studio 4.10

This way gives V9 her own day of glory so to speak ;-)

I'm fairly sure that the morph bundles, etc. will follow over the next weeks, months, etc. as they usually do.

I for one am not disappointed with the Bundle although a little surprized that the a.e. have to be yet another purchase - but the price isn't bad at all. And for those down the road in time I'm sure they will appreciate that they don't have to shell out for a full Pro bundle just to get a set.

Bunyip02 said:

WendyLuvsCatz said:

mmm wonder why mine fail to import, shall try my other computer Win10, was my Win 7

same thing i/0 error

maybe upload your eye duf (it's just a character preset so OK)

Here you go, was for the female morph applied to one - also shaders need some work to get to operate okay.

 

works 

I wonder why mine doesn't though, 2 computers, 2 installs, 2 libraries 

mmm D|S4.21? 

jeylien said:

(after having used transfer utility to fit the G9 G8m clone shape to an actual G8m and then dialing in the HFS Ultimate Shapes morphs for the alien and animal type legs, there were obvious distortions with some vertices between the toes not really matching up well enough to make the morph transfer over), but the everything else including hands, face, eyes, ears-- basically the other typical problem areas-- seems to work really well! So this isn't just useful for clothing, but also transfering morphs from G8. Which is going to enable me to start using G9 much much sooner now. I'm excited!!

Apologies, where was the tool that allows the use of G8 morphs? I looked in the dev utilities and didn't see anything applicable after clicking around. Though it could be I have something incomplete as i've seen a few people on the forum talk about having partial downloads.

Great - I added the video link to my post above as well :)

There's a lot of different uses for the templates that can be loaded via Utilities

1. You can load the template to see how close its going to be to the outfit you're transferring to - the closer it is in volume the better your result.

2. Creators can load the templates and see where the different clothing zones are to make it easier to fit pants and shirts over each other (not mandatory of course, but useful)

3. If you have a figure that you use a lot and it includes a custom morph that doesn't work well with clothing, you can fix the morph in the template and save it, and from then on clothing that you autofit will use the morph you fixed.

4. You can take the template items into MD and drape against them - the plan is to expand the templates with a hoop dress, loose jackets, some high heel templates etc - once the dust settles down a bit.

5. Last but not least you can use replace source with the templates to get all the custom ercs and formulas hooked up for your dresses - just make sure you immediately save with another name and in another product folder so you don't overwrite the templates.

0oseven said:

If only Carrara could be provided with updated FBX import/export  - maybe that would fix things. Seems to be the default transfer method these days.

We want Carrara 9 !!!!!!!!!!!!

Mada said:

Something new to check out meanwhile - G9 comes with a new feature called Utilities in the parameter dials. Some interesting new options available in there :D

Thank you so much for mentioning this!! I was looking everywhere trying to find the G8 clones that the autofit used, since I wanted to play around with transfering some morphs using said clone shapes and the transfer utility. I had just about given up hope, which was going to change my personal feelings about G9 from much excitement and happiness to great disappointment, but thankfully I saw your comment, found the Utilities, and what I was looking for was within those dev tools. So happy!! 
The only part I wish was a little better fit was the feet/toes (after having used transfer utility to fit the G9 G8m clone shape to an actual G8m and then dialing in the HFS Ultimate Shapes morphs for the alien and animal type legs, there were obvious distortions with some vertices between the toes not really matching up well enough to make the morph transfer over), but the everything else including hands, face, eyes, ears-- basically the other typical problem areas-- seems to work really well! So this isn't just useful for clothing, but also transfering morphs from G8. Which is going to enable me to start using G9 much much sooner now. I'm excited!!

WendyLuvsCatz said:

mmm wonder why mine fail to import, shall try my other computer Win10, was my Win 7

same thing i/0 error

maybe upload your eye duf (it's just a character preset so OK)

Here you go, was for the female morph applied to one - also shaders need some work to get to operate okay.

m4dara said:

Hi,

I was wondering ... is there any way or maybe a workaround to apply G8 Skins to a G9 figure (since they have different UVs). Maybe with the map transfer tool?

Thank you :)

In order to use Map Transfer, you'd have to have G9's UV on G8. There isn't a way to do this yet, although I'm sure one will come along soon, whether simply porting G8's UVs to G9 will work or whether it will require geografts like Cayman's legacy UV products. 

Hi,

I was wondering ... is there any way or maybe a workaround to apply G8 Skins to a G9 figure (since they have different UVs). Maybe with the map transfer tool?

Thank you :)

After upgrading DAZ 4.21.  My DAZ serial number disappered.  So did my Face Transfer license.  I reloaded from DAZ, all good.  Now the really strange thing.

I saved a pose from a different scene and applied the pose to the current scene, G8F to G8F.  When I did that:

1.  Hair color changed -- went to unsimulated state, too.

2.  Removed third party products from the figure--readding did not fix the issue.

3.  All instances of using the character the pose was applied to--in different scenes, subsets, etc., now exhibit 1 and 2,- above--even from backups!

Is there a way to clear whatever happened to the character--it is a Genesis 8 female generated with Face Transfer? 

It appears the third party products while there, no longer work.  They all worked until I applied the pose!

This happened suddenly!  That affects the same character in different scenes is very odd!  I've saved multiple poses and not had this happen before.

Thank you in advance.

nwleee_a52bfead84 said:

RL_Media said:

j11011 said:

currently there seems to be just the merchant resource morph pack, but the price is 10k for body and another 10k for head morphs, and no, no mistakes in those prices..

where do you see that?

If you do a search in the Daz store, just type in the search bar "Genesis 9" and it will show you those merchant resource morph packs.

Ah, I tried a search on "merchant resource morph pack" and it didnt pop up lol. yeah see it now.

RL_Media said:

j11011 said:

currently there seems to be just the merchant resource morph pack, but the price is 10k for body and another 10k for head morphs, and no, no mistakes in those prices..

where do you see that?

If you do a search in the Daz store, just type in the search bar "Genesis 9" and it will show you those merchant resource morph packs.

I specialize in Horror-themed art.  I was just looking at the expressions pack for V9 and don't see any for options like fear, screaming, shock.  Is there another morph pack in the pipe?