hey guys, i'm a new guy and just started using daz like 3-4 days ago. I want to know if i should get victoria 8 pro bundle or not. I made a thread and people recommened me to first get familiar with daz by working with free stuff before buying anything but i was still confused as many free stuff also require you to have morphs. So i just saw victoria 8 pro bundle and i read if i get victoria 8 pro bundle i will get victoria 5,6,7 pro bundle free and victoria 8 starter bundle and other things too for free. i think if i buy victoria 8 i won't need to buy again anytime soon.

So what i want to know is if i right now just learn about daz and buy victoria like a month later will it still include other bundles or not and if i even get victoria 8 pro bundle will i still require other stuff to buy or it would be enough for now. thanks

If you decide to go forward with purchasing, buy a Platinum Club Plus membership FIRST. Can join for as low as $24 for quarterly or $70 annually. Membership provides an additional 30% off DAZ Originals, plus monthly $6 off coupons, monthly/weekly freebies, value priced weekly Platinum Plus releases.

and the sales almost every day that brainwash you into buying more and more and  more.....and more...... 

and if i even get victoria 8 pro bundle will i still require other stuff to buy or it would be enough for now

You most certainly will buy more, as DAZ lures you with sparkling new content and equally sparkling (but cheaper) old content ...

and if i even get victoria 8 pro bundle will i still require other stuff to buy or it would be enough for now

You most certainly will buy more, as DAZ lures you with sparkling new content and equally sparkling (but cheaper) old content ...

hey guys, i'm a new guy and just started using daz like 3-4 days ago. I want to know if i should get victoria 8 pro bundle or not. I made a thread and people recommened me to first get familiar with daz by working with free stuff before buying anything but i was still confused as many free stuff also require you to have morphs. So i just saw victoria 8 pro bundle and i read if i get victoria 8 pro bundle i will get victoria 5,6,7 pro bundle free and victoria 8 starter bundle and other things too for free. i think if i buy victoria 8 i won't need to buy again anytime soon.

So what i want to know is if i right now just learn about daz and buy victoria like a month later will it still include other bundles or not and if i even get victoria 8 pro bundle will i still require other stuff to buy or it would be enough for now. thanks

As much as I love the free stuff, you don't get the same results as you do with the bought products, so it's worth shifting eventually. if you don't have the others, and you have the cash to do it then it probably is worth going with the new gen. That way you will have all the base figures you need and it will still be compatable with the new products that will be coming out. 

You will eventually be able to pick her up at a discount, if money's tight, but to get gen 5,6 & 7 with all the bundled goods that come with it (assuming you're going for pro or starter) drops her price significantly. No if you buy her in a weeks time it probably won't include the other pro bundles, and it will probably never be repeated. 

Keri is a character for Victoria 8 with a custom head morph and additional body morphs from the Genesis 8 Female Body Morph Pack and uses the base Genesis 8 Female UV maps.  Her base morph will load both the custom, dialed and Victoria 8 morphs into your Genesis 8 Female Model.

She has a collection of 5 complete make up options, three brows and a no brow option as well as three mascara options for a mix and match variety.  Of her 6 eye colors, one is a fantasy version just to mix things up a bit.

The base hierarchy material setting will add the lash, tears and anatomical element materials with the base figure as long as both are loaded with Genesis or Victoria 8 Models.

Anatomical Elements are included.

Materials are Iray only.

Also, just in regard to this, remember....once you start buying content, you'll never stop. *grin* 

........ and if i even get victoria 8 pro bundle will i still require other stuff to buy or it would be enough for now. thanks

The bonus of V5, V6, V7 pro bundles when you buy Victoria 8 Pro bundle would only be a short time for the initial sale - I doubt very very highly whether it will be an ongoing thing. It never has before. So if you want the previous generation pro bundles for free, you'll have to buy V8 pro bundle now. 

However, as you said you are new, do you want to spend a lot of money right off the bat without knowing whether this is something you want to continue? If you're an artist and REALLY want to do this, then go for it. If you're still unsure whether DS is for you, then maybe not? Don't know, it's your decision. 

But if you want those previous generation pro bundles for free, you'll have to buy Victoria 8 Pro bundle (which contains the Starter bundle) pretty much now.  

hey guys, i'm a new guy and just started using daz like 3-4 days ago. I want to know if i should get victoria 8 pro bundle or not. I made a thread and people recommened me to first get familiar with daz by working with free stuff before buying anything but i was still confused as many free stuff also require you to have morphs. So i just saw victoria 8 pro bundle and i read if i get victoria 8 pro bundle i will get victoria 5,6,7 pro bundle free and victoria 8 starter bundle and other things too for free. i think if i buy victoria 8 i won't need to buy again anytime soon.

So what i want to know is if i right now just learn about daz and buy victoria like a month later will it still include other bundles or not and if i even get victoria 8 pro bundle will i still require other stuff to buy or it would be enough for now. thanks

hey guys, i'm a new guy and just started using daz like 3-4 days ago. I want to know if i should get victoria 8 pro bundle or not. I made a thread and people recommened me to first get familiar with daz by working with free stuff before buying anything but i was still confused as many free stuff also require you to have morphs. So i just saw victoria 8 pro bundle and i read if i get victoria 8 pro bundle i will get victoria 5,6,7 pro bundle free and victoria 8 starter bundle and other things too for free. i think if i buy victoria 8 i won't need to buy again anytime soon.

So what i want to know is if i right now just learn about daz and buy victoria like a month later will it still include other bundles or not and if i even get victoria 8 pro bundle will i still require other stuff to buy or it would be enough for now. thanks

I think I need my memory refreshed on what Genesis 1/2/3 were at the beginning - with all the "Victoria 8 is the most backward compatible ever", but backward compatible seems to just mean Autofit.....didn't we get previous clones in autofit with the other Genesises? 

Nope PAs made clones in the latest version for prior versions to fit the best and easiest.

https://www.daz3d.com/generation-5-legacy-shapes-for-genesis-2-female for example.

No thats just the legacy shapes it didn't contain Autofit clones.

I can't remember how many autofits clones were included with G1 but I rememer being able to Autofit generation 3 clothes to Genesis from the start - without buying anything.

So then, WHY is V8 the "most backward compatible ever"???? Especially as people are saying the autofit choices are a bit limited, shoes still don't autofit well, and movement morphs etc are getting lost? 

I think I need my memory refreshed on what Genesis 1/2/3 were at the beginning - with all the "Victoria 8 is the most backward compatible ever", but backward compatible seems to just mean Autofit.....didn't we get previous clones in autofit with the other Genesises? 

Nope PAs made clones in the latest version for prior versions to fit the best and easiest.

https://www.daz3d.com/generation-5-legacy-shapes-for-genesis-2-female for example.

I think I need my memory refreshed on what Genesis 1/2/3 were at the beginning - with all the "Victoria 8 is the most backward compatible ever", but backward compatible seems to just mean Autofit.....didn't we get previous clones in autofit with the other Genesises? 

Nope PAs made clones in the latest version for prior versions to fit the best and easiest.

https://www.daz3d.com/generation-5-legacy-shapes-for-genesis-2-female for example.

Yes, that's the one. Fisty & Darc made it, but DAZ did a buy out, and then made it a freebie at Christmas time. I was surprised they pulled it from the store in the first place. I'm glad to see it back.

Yep! Me too. It's at a great price.

Okay, what's going on- some of you may be getting an additional discount (10%, or 20% (61%, Pro Bundle 52.90) , 30 percent additional which is $46.29) and NOT have a banner or a message in your Exclusive Offers. I don't have either but got the discount. Over in the sale thread, Ati was nice enough to post their banner, so it is based on the number of Victoria Pro Bundles you purchased. (1, 2, 3) 

I think I need my memory refreshed on what Genesis 1/2/3 were at the beginning - with all the "Victoria 8 is the most backward compatible ever", but backward compatible seems to just mean Autofit.....didn't we get previous clones in autofit with the other Genesises? 

Me too. I get 10% off for buying 1 previous Victoria Pro bundle. I guess they don't count the Victoria 4 Pro bundle in that. Cos I have that and Victoria 5 Pros.  

You get an extra 30% off. I guess. I get 10% off for having one of the past pros.

Maybe a bit stupid question but what si really the different between g3f and g8f? Same poly same uv/texture? Maybe the expressions are more realistic but i think with the same morphs on g3f its the same. So why new figure when its just a copy from g3f?

• Key advancements with the Genesis 8-based Victoria 8 include:

  Backward Compatibility (Read More)

  Includes clones for Genesis, Genesis 2, and Genesis 3 content even between male and female figures.

  Improved Expression Capabilities (Read More)

  Updated Eye Technology (Read More)

  Enhanced Finger/Toenails (Read More)

  Muscle contraction added (Read More)

  Default Pose Change: (Read More)

  More Realistic Bending: (Read More)

  Better Shoe Fit: (Read More)

  Easy Shape Migration: (Read More)

  Skin Material Advancements: (Read More)

   

-g3f have the clones too

-expressions are better but just morphs

+the eye technology okay is better and a bit different

-nails are just new morphs too

-default pose (necessery yes/not) 

+bending nothing to say :D

-shoe fit (dont know but g3f shoe fit was really good)

-skin material is the same nothing new

the differents between all other figures is more... v4-genesis-g2-g3. Big differents. I cant understand why g8 is a new figuer and not again a charakter preset for g3f. 

Victoria 4 has 62k....

Genesis has 19k... Genesis 1!!! G1 is more flexable then G8... G1... Just let that sink in for a second. Pick up on the pattern and its impossible to miss.

G2 had 21k I think it was an experiment. Then a huge dip from 21k to 17k... Dropping even lower then G1. Now. G8 is out. And Everything is an extra charge for "HD" which their "HD" morphs arnt even comparaible to G2 on base res. They are literally doing every artists worst nightmare right now... Outcasting anyone who isnt "in" I understand its their model but... This is unacceptable if I'm going to be spending hunreds of dollars on skins and clothing and hair and shaders... For this figure? No..Not a chance...  Forget it.

• Key advancements with the Genesis 8-based Victoria 8 include:

  Backward Compatibility (Read More)

  Includes clones for Genesis, Genesis 2, and Genesis 3 content even between male and female figures.

  Improved Expression Capabilities (Read More)

  Updated Eye Technology (Read More)

  Enhanced Finger/Toenails (Read More)

  Muscle contraction added (Read More)

  Default Pose Change: (Read More)

  More Realistic Bending: (Read More)

  Better Shoe Fit: (Read More)

  Easy Shape Migration: (Read More)

  Skin Material Advancements: (Read More)

   

There is no Genesis 4. I think there would be some confusion between Genesis 4 and Generation 4 (Michael 4/Victoria 4 etc.) So they named it Genesis 8, since it is the 8th generation figure to be released. 

If you use Daz Install Manager (DIM), log in and check for new products. The new Genesis 8 Female Starter Essentials should be available for download. Otherwise, log in to Daz3D, go to your Product Library and search for "Starter Essentials". You should find a section for Genesis 8 Starter Essentials there. 

I did find a problem though. The supposed "Power Pose Templates" file that accompanies the Starter Essentials appears to be exactly the same file as the Starter Essentials. I think someone at Daz got something mixed up somewhere along the line. 

Pros:

- No inmediate need for a "Wear them all" type of product (though it would be nice for added functionality and V4 support).

- Autofitted female content looks quite nice and a lot of the time preserves style morphs.

- G3F female UV, which takes care of a lot of issues with materials.

- The expressions look much, much better by default, with HD wrinkles included in in the base figure.

- Muscularity and bending look to be quite an improvement. This and the expressions are my main siren's lure.

- Improved eyelashes and nails. That's nice.

- If you use powerpose, there's a new template for it. Huzza.

Cons:

- Poses don't work. Yet another pose converter script needed, unless someones manages a pose corrector additive pose.

- Low chance of a product like GenX and, even if it came along, unless it was a DO it wouldn't transfer HD morphs.

- The sysiphean task of, once again, gathering enough product variety to replicate the previous figure functionality (although certain base improvements and the UV make this a tad easier than it was with G3F).

- The feeling that this came out of left field and blindsided customers who were finally happy with their G3F after two years of gathering content (yes, I know this is subjective--it doesn't mean it isn't real).

- No loyalty discount. In fact, there's kind of an anti-loyalty discount, as Victoria 8 offers you the previous iterations but doesn't give you anything if you already have them.

- The dreaded shrink-wrap effect is in full force when autofitting male content or G1 content.

- Geografts can be autofitted, but they will work as conformers and lose their bones (transfer utility may take care of the bones, but they still won't replace base geometry).

- I am poor, grouchy and all this newflangled G8F thing is confusing and terryfying to my poor, age-addled brain. Get off my lawn, ye darn kids!

All in all, I am having mixed feelings about this. I don't feel the slightest advantage about being an early adopter and I was finally confident about what G3 offered me. I will probably wait and see, but I am quite miffed about all the G3 products that won't see the light of day (we all know how quickly that well will dry up). I really like some of what G8 brings to the table, I just wish it could have, somehow, been an update to G3 instead of a replacement.

Also, Kudos to Zev0 for updating Skin Builder's compatibility, it was one of the first things I checked and i am glad it will come to pass. Now, if only there was a way to do the same for morphs. And poses. And geografts. And my wallet.

Pardon,

what is Genesis 8 ?
The latest was Genesis 3 (Victoria 7 and Michael 7). So you meen Victoria 8 (based on Genesis 4)?
I see those "Genesis 8" addon products. But where is the required "Genesis 8 Female", if this name really is correct?
What is the "evolution" chain from Genesis to Genesis2 to Genesis3 ... Genesis8?

What about Genesis4 to Genesis7 ?
How long did my sleepy way of life (Dornröschenschlaf) last ?