Is it just me or does the Victoria 8 Pro Bundle seem a little thin compared to pro bundles in the past? 

Well, checking all my generation 7 pro bundles, there are 12 items each: 1 Base 7 figure, 2 characters, 2 hairs, 2 pose sets and 4 wardrobe items and the anatomical elements.

The Victoria 8 Pro Bundle has 13 items: 1 Base 7 figure, 2 characters, 2 hairs, 2 pose sets and 5 wardrobe items and the anatomical elements. From the product page for the bundle:

• Pro Bundle Bonus: Lingerie Robe Set for Genesis 8 Female(s)

Here is an older Victoria 8

To add to what Mike has said, once upon a time, having a collection of DAZ Studio versions going back to version 1, I decided to sort through all the content that had been included with the various versions of Studio over the years, in part to determine the source of some of the content in my DAZ/Poser library. As Mike mentioned, none of the content included for free with DAZ Studio shows up as individual items in your Product Library in your DAZ Account here, unfortunately. I won't regale you with everything I discovered, but can confirm that Victoria 4 was indeed included with versions of DAZ Studio 3.x, but I do not believe that it was a "lite" version, but the regular V4 Base (which doesn't include all that much to begin with). One problem is that while content included with DAZ Studio 2.x and 4.x were separate downloads from the application, the content for DAZ Studio 3.x was included as part of the application package, which was a Windows executable (.exe) file. The only way to extract the content is to run the executable, which also installs the application. You can always uninstall the application afterwards, but the process is a little awkward to say the least. BTW, installing DS 3 alongside your existing DS 4 will cause no conflicts.

If V4 does not show up as an individual item in your account here because you obtained it as part of the included content with DAZ Studio 3, then you should have the last version of DAZ Studio 3 released listed in your Product Library and can manually download it and try what I suggested above. It does not matter whether it was the free or paid version of DAZ Studio 3, as long as you obtained it directly from DAZ, it should be listed.

https://www.sharecg.com/v/88539/view/21/DAZ-Studio/Free-G8F-and-Victoria-8-Pose-expression

Enjoy!

This one has nothing to do with Victoria 8, because I didn't bother buying her. It's Genesis 8 all the way - all I bought were the head and body morphs and the expressions. I've been putting the morphs through SimTenero's randomiser to create new shapes and then resurfacing them with SB3 textures. I've done a few of them now and there's nothing particularly special about the one pictured - I just wanted show one that uses existing stuff from a mix of previous generations.

As mentioned, it uses a Skin Builder 3 texture, and the top, hair and skirt are all Genesis 2. The shoes are Genesis, and the stockings are from a Genesis 3 product. All of this went straight on with no trouble - I did have to adjust the top a bit to fit over the skirt, but they're from two different G2 outfits and I've had to do that anyway when using the same combination on G3 and even on G2. Heels can be problematic - I've had the most success with Genesis and G3 shoes and the least with G2 in my limited experiments with them. So far, tops have needed to be of a tighter fit - there's a lot of under-boob clinging going on which shows up a mile away with anything looser fitting.

I'll probably buy her a pair of heels of her own eventually, but in the meantime I think I can get a lot out of my current G8 resources and existing content, and there's nothing at all wrong with G3, either. No rush for the shiney stuff here :)

 

She looks like she's 45 going on 60. Sorry I just don't get it. Enlighten me please because I am missing something here.

Um, not everyone needs a 16 year old supermodel in a sleazy outfit for their render. Some ppl like to tell a story ;). I LOVE original characters that look like real people. I LOVE this character ;).

Laurie

I got one of those too and they told me they put Victoria 5 in my Account History. So far all I got was a link for Vicky 5's Pro Bundle....and that's it. A link. To nothing. And no other products. LOL

I'm not gonna gonna fret over it much ;).

Laurie

The base bits are in the Victoria 8 pro bundle.  So far as I know, no where else.

This one has nothing to do with Victoria 8, because I didn't bother buying her. It's Genesis 8 all the way - all I bought were the head and body morphs and the expressions. I've been putting the morphs through SimTenero's randomiser to create new shapes and then resurfacing them with SB3 textures. I've done a few of them now and there's nothing particularly special about the one pictured - I just wanted show one that uses existing stuff from a mix of previous generations.

As mentioned, it uses a Skin Builder 3 texture, and the top, hair and skirt are all Genesis 2. The shoes are Genesis, and the stockings are from a Genesis 3 product. All of this went straight on with no trouble - I did have to adjust the top a bit to fit over the skirt, but they're from two different G2 outfits and I've had to do that anyway when using the same combination on G3 and even on G2. Heels can be problematic - I've had the most success with Genesis and G3 shoes and the least with G2 in my limited experiments with them. So far, tops have needed to be of a tighter fit - there's a lot of under-boob clinging going on which shows up a mile away with anything looser fitting.

I'll probably buy her a pair of heels of her own eventually, but in the meantime I think I can get a lot out of my current G8 resources and existing content, and there's nothing at all wrong with G3, either. No rush for the shiney stuff here :)

 

She looks like she's 45 going on 60. Sorry I just don't get it. Enlighten me please because I am missing something here.

I managed to import the Genesis 8 Female Base into Poser Pro 11 rather easily, and she poses just fine, but many of the morphs are completely non-functional.  For instance, the Bodybuilder morph works fine, but applying Victoria 8 just makes the figure taller and doesn't seem to do anything else.  Some of the chest morphs seem to work fine, but others have absolutely no effect.  So far, the only apparent consistency I may have found is that any morph that involves the head doesn't seem to work.  Does this have something to do with the new PowerPose thing and/or the facial expression bones?  In any case, is there any hope of troubleshooting this?

Is it just me or does the Victoria 8 Pro Bundle seem a little thin compared to pro bundles in the past? 

After testing Victoria 8 for a day, I have to conclude that there really isn't enough difference between her and Victoria 7 for V8 to be called V8. More like V7.3.

We gain HD expressions. Way cool. We gain geografted eyelashes. Okay. Why? We gain a base figure who is three inches taller than V6 and V7. Isn't 5'11" tall enough? We gain a figure with a masculine face and one hell of an ugly mouth. Well, I fought V7's ugly mouth, but I don't want to do it again. We gain a more primitive mesh that is even further removed from natural human topology than V7.

And I can't convert my custom V7 characters to V8 without major effort. A 22 year old V7 looks 40 in V8.

So, I dropped $40 on an experiment. It was money well spent, really. It told me to wait for Victoria 9. Hey, I bought a Hyundai in 1986! I'm 6'4". You do the math on that. I've spent more on less.

Where to start with untangling this. Oy! First, V8 is a definite step forward and more than worthy of it's own figure line. The bends are much better, muscles follow the pose shape better, skin texture improvement, anatomy improvment, the skin actually moves with the expressions, improved eyes, nails, and feet, etc. 

Second, converting characters from V7 to V8 is suprisingly easy. Redz has a tutorial on how to do it and made a post on how to do it here on the forum - and it's pretty fast and painless. 

Third, "masculine face and one hell of an ugly mouth" I totally disagree. I think she's quite lovely and a lot more realistic looking than some of the past Victorias which trend to have unnaturally large eyes and faces that are too artificial looking. We still have a ways to go to hit total photo-realism, of course, but V8 is definitely a step forward.

Yes, and some hairs too. I dad this problem when I applied G2F clothing to G3F too (eg Cupcake outfit to Brooklyn 7 or Victoria 7). I did get the item I wanted fitted eventually by applying the morph after autofit was done. 

I haven't been successful at applying Victoria 7's clothing to Victoria 8. I'm getting a ton of crashing. 

If you go to your Product Library (or Daz Install Manager) and search for "Starter Essentials" you can get the content for Genesis 1, 2, and 3.  Victoria 4.2 wasn't included in DS4, but there was a light version of V4.2 included with DS3.  You can check your Product Library for "Daz Studio 3" to get the installer with the included content, but if you had the free version rather than DS3 Advanced it might not be in your Product Library.  "Victoria 4.2 Base" was also free for a while (as were some of the other older figures), so see if you have them in your Product Library.

I originally Downloaded Daz 4.2 and it came with Victoria 4.2 etc. Today I learned that Daz studio contunially released new content with upgraded items. I managed to download Genesis 8 but I have found no repository to find inbetween software that might have been free (or included) with intermediate Daz versions.

Thanks in advance,

Anthony

I know many of you like her, but I just don't find V8 atttactive...  Some of my problems with her are: eyebrows too close together, too dark and thick, unattractive face, shoulders too thin for body, arms look weird, waist too wide, almost as wide as hips, boobs too small, she looks about 40. All this is fine for an ancillary character but I think, of all characters, Victoria should be the ideal woman, gorgeous, like V7. I have zero interest in this character, and I'm sure she'll end up free eventually anyway.

II am interested in experimenting  with plain G8 and morphs and expressions but will wait for PAs to create better morphs for G8 for the gene pool and will enjoy  creating my own. I do kind of like her cat eyes, but that's about it... Hate her nose... I think she does look kind of masculine with her wider waist, thicker wrists and less feminine features too....

I couldn't agree more, exactly my toughts. Additionally I don't like the eye reflection, the G8 eyes look weird to me. The face is very long and unattractive. V8 is by far the ugliest Victoria to me (except maybe the default V4.2). The only positive part to me is that she's an older character and maybe the skin. Nevertheless I got the V8 Pro package with several addons and the morphs, I'm too curious about the new posing, skin shading and muscles moves. FWSA Elizabeth HD is the hope I have in G8 (and the trigger to get the Pro Bundle), but I like many FWSA Gen3 characters much better.

The big thanks from me to DAZ however is the compatibility to the previous Genesis items and even Gen3 skin.

After testing Victoria 8 for a day, I have to conclude that there really isn't enough difference between her and Victoria 7 for V8 to be called V8. More like V7.3.

We gain HD expressions. Way cool. We gain geografted eyelashes. Okay. Why? We gain a base figure who is three inches taller than V6 and V7. Isn't 5'11" tall enough? We gain a figure with a masculine face and one hell of an ugly mouth. Well, I fought V7's ugly mouth, but I don't want to do it again. We gain a more primitive mesh that is even further removed from natural human topology than V7.

And I can't convert my custom V7 characters to V8 without major effort. A 22 year old V7 looks 40 in V8.

So, I dropped $40 on an experiment. It was money well spent, really. It told me to wait for Victoria 9. Hey, I bought a Hyundai in 1986! I'm 6'4". You do the math on that. I've spent more on less.

Just make them unique. And most importantly, if compatibility is a real goal now, then do NOT create unique UV maps for every freaking character. Unless it is absolutely necessary. Unique UVs need to die in dumpster fire.

I just checked, and Victoria 8 uses the default female UV maps, so I think they've heard our complaint and dealt with it.

This one didn't have anything to do with how much you spent. Instead it was how many Victoria Pro Bundles you previously bought.

I have the full V5 pro pack and 99% of V6 and V7 pro pack items bought separately so no incentive to get those free. I'm playing with the free version of G8 now, she's OK, but if I don't get any special discounts, not really worth purchasing add ons. Was going to get the morphs, but it doesn't seem like there's an iris size morph, and the very first thing I do is make the irises bigger, so may skip this whole generation. On the fence... If I had a decent discount, I may have gone for it. 

I know many of you like her, but I just don't find V8 atttactive...  Some of my problems with her are: eyebrows too close together, too dark and thick, unattractive face, shoulders too thin for body, arms look weird, waist too wide, almost as wide as hips, boobs too small, she looks about 40. All this is fine for an ancillary character but I think, of all characters, Victoria should be the ideal woman, gorgeous, like V7. I have zero interest in this character, and I'm sure she'll end up free eventually anyway.

 

I agree about the shoulders looking strangely small, which makes her head look too large. Arms look 'off'

I wanted to love her but I don't even like her.

I will most likely get her for the coming PA's characters based off of her, but if she was just a regular PA's character, I would never have looked at her twice.