I've asked if I can get credit for owning the V5 and M5 Pro Bundles, as I've bought most of the content over time, plus I bought Carrara Pro, which includes the V5 and M5 Pro Bundles. It would seem logical that if you bought all the content, you could get credit for buying the bundle. We'll see what they say.

Maybe V5 but I doubt you would get credit for owning M5 since the discounts were  based only on the Victoria Pro Bundles.

I'm preparing for a M8 offer. Thought I'd kill two birds with one help ticket. ;)

She's not exactly a looker, eh?

Also, can someone explain in simple terms what's the appeal of the new G8/V8 generation? As far as I can tell it's just the same as G3?

She can look like anything you want. I just brought over 35+ of my favorite morphs from G3F, including Toon Generations, Legacy Shapes for G3F (the main G2Fs) and various characters (Lilith 7, Olympia 7, V7, etc.) I also brought over Xameva's fantasy shapes from Renderosity (the elf and dwarf ones), which look really good. The ears dial in right on those.

Will be posting test renders of things as I can. If someone wants to see what a particular character looks like on G8 or mixed with V8, let me know. If I have it, I'll move it over and render it. You can also use Redz method to move over items you've ported in to G3 from GenX2 or created with FaceGen. I'm not even sure you need any body or head morphs for these, the morphs are ported over via Morph Loader Pro and dialed straight in. (But I have those packs installed, so I can't verify that.)

The posing and facial rigging are huge steps forward in realism. The autofits work pretty decently. Sometimes Studio has to think a bit if you load entire outfits with lots of items. I'd recommend doing those one piece at a time. Being able to use the skins from G3F is a huge advantage. I managed to get a G3M skin on G8 as well, though there are a few seams. Haven't tried tranferring any G3M morphs over yet. Did try the Centaur for kicks and it didn't work, but I didn't expect it to. Might have to make a V8 centaur the way people were making V7 ones before the female centaur came out. 

The possibiities with G8 are pretty endless and you don't have to spend much or anything to enjoy the benefits, just a little time and patience.

Can you test Gwinneli

https://www.daz3d.com/gwennili-hd-for-victoria-7

What I always enjoy about these threads is being reminded of the incredibly ... specific and vocal social view of attractiveness is projected in society.

Jeebus, people.

Yeah, I'm trying to ignore the bigoted comments I've seen on the forums lately about how females over the age of 30 are no longer attractive or desirable. As if the mere act of aging devalues half the population in some people's eyes. I'm 47. I don't have an "expiration date" and I don't think Victoria should either. 

Well said!  Well said! 

There is beauty all around us but some folks like those waif thin models with plastic faces I guess!  lmao

What I always enjoy about these threads is being reminded of the incredibly ... specific and vocal social view of attractiveness is projected in society.

Jeebus, people.

Yeah, I'm trying to ignore the bigoted comments I've seen on the forums lately about how females over the age of 30 are no longer attractive or desirable. As if the mere act of aging devalues half the population in some people's eyes. I'm 47. I don't have an "expiration date" and I don't think Victoria should either. 

True. I don't pay any heed to anyone saying women (or men) over a certain age are not attractive. 

Just this morning, I saw a lady that I had a massive crush on many years ago. I couldn't believe that she had not aged a day. This woman is in her 50s! Too bad she's still married!!

I always make my Vickys with a few years on her.

I'm getting crashing when autofitting Genesis 3 female clothing to Victoria 8. I've tried Karen's yellow and red suit and the superhero outfit for Genesis 3 both cause my machine to crash.

Almost done with a test render. Then I'll try those and see if they crash for me too. I've used these so far without any issues:

• Hunter Gear for G3M
• Sexy Sorceress for G3F
• Aether Outfit for G2F (Monique 6 Pro Pack)
• Daemon Outfit for G3F (from Anneka Pro Pack)
• some woodland armor outfit in the Ceridwen pic I posted. I'll check on the name.

I like her too. To me she is an evolution of G3F rather than a revolution. The enhanced PowerPose for facila expressions is a nice feature. Overall a good addition to my figure library. Here is my first attempt at a slight customized Victoria 3 portrait.

Ciao

TD

What I always enjoy about these threads is being reminded of the incredibly ... specific and vocal social view of attractiveness is projected in society.

Jeebus, people.

Yeah, I'm trying to ignore the bigoted comments I've seen on the forums lately about how females over the age of 30 are no longer attractive or desirable. As if the mere act of aging devalues half the population in some people's eyes. I'm 47. I don't have an "expiration date" and I don't think Victoria should either. 

Giving some attention to the description for Hercules HD Loves Victoria 8 Poses by SimonWM, which gave me a good laugh.

Just because you are from a previous generation doesn't mean you cannot try to impress the new girl. Especially when your name is Hercules and there are statues and temples raised in your name. And we all know how much Victoria likes temples

For folks that don't like the look of Victoria 8 a piece of simple advice, don't use her.  I haven't liked the look of any of the Victoria since the Genesis lines started.  The only reason I have bought the Victoria Pro bundles is to get the UVs and the naughty bits as I am both a Cranky Olde Fart and a Dirty Olde Man.

I really love Generation 8 female as well. I think she is my favorite Victoria to date. I particularly love her expressions and the long eye shape. I really love her look. she rocks.

I have to agree. Of all the Victorias I was most attached to Victoria 4. I didn't dislike the others. I just didn't have a strong interest in them. And I was so sick of seeing Victoria 7 plastered everywhere. But Victoria 8 really catches my attention. I just really dig her look.

I'm getting crashing when autofitting Genesis 3 female clothing to Victoria 8. I've tried Karen's yellow and red suit and the superhero outfit for Genesis 3 both cause my machine to crash.

Dunno if its mentioned before (or corrected by now), V8 comes with eyebrows prop, but compatibility for the prop is set to be (just) Genesis 3 female. Which is why we dont see it listed in anatomy section of the smart content when we have G8F selected.

So to add G8F compatibility to it go to content library tab, under People - Genesis 8 Female - Anatomy - Victoria 8 Eyebrows and you should see prop there. Click once on the prop to select it. Next click with right mouse button on the content library tab (on the letters "content library) to get a menu and from the menu select Content DB Editor...

When content DB editor windows opens, select (in upper part) "Victoria 8 Eyebrows.duf" and in lower part click on "Compatibility" menu and you will have eyebrows listed there. Click with right mouse button on the Victoria 8 Eyebrows to get a menu and from menu select "Add Compatibilities to Selected File(s)...".

A list window will open and in it scroll down to Genesis 8, click on the little triangle in front of Genesis 8 to expand menu, select Female and click Accept. And again Accept in the DB editor window and now you should see V8 Brows in the anatomy menu in smart content when you have G8F selected

The Obligatory "First Genesis 8/ Victoria 8" render. I went for a little dynamism.

i test,,

i loag basic "Genesis3" and "Genesis 8"

they are 100% identical,, 
some change only when you apply character,,

The problem is not with the base G8F is with Victoria 8, the height dosen't match with 5' 10" (179.3 cm) indicated in the Victoria 8 page, (at least in my case).

in 'shaping' use Legs length -20% on V8 and V7/V8 become  same,,

This one has nothing to do with Victoria 8, because I didn't bother buying her. It's Genesis 8 all the way - all I bought were the head and body morphs and the expressions. I've been putting the morphs through SimTenero's randomiser to create new shapes and then resurfacing them with SB3 textures. I've done a few of them now and there's nothing particularly special about the one pictured - I just wanted show one that uses existing stuff from a mix of previous generations.

As mentioned, it uses a Skin Builder 3 texture, and the top, hair and skirt are all Genesis 2. The shoes are Genesis, and the stockings are from a Genesis 3 product. All of this went straight on with no trouble - I did have to adjust the top a bit to fit over the skirt, but they're from two different G2 outfits and I've had to do that anyway when using the same combination on G3 and even on G2. Heels can be problematic - I've had the most success with Genesis and G3 shoes and the least with G2 in my limited experiments with them. So far, tops have needed to be of a tighter fit - there's a lot of under-boob clinging going on which shows up a mile away with anything looser fitting.

I'll probably buy her a pair of heels of her own eventually, but in the meantime I think I can get a lot out of my current G8 resources and existing content, and there's nothing at all wrong with G3, either. No rush for the shiney stuff here :)

 

She looks like she's 45 going on 60. Sorry I just don't get it. Enlighten me please because I am missing something here.

Yay! She's supposed to look older. What I was aiming for was somebody with a reasonably natural looking expression, a 'normal' looking older face which didn't make her look like an aging super-model and just enough chunk around the middle to suggest she wasn't willing to let herself go yet but wasn't so obsessed with it that she couldn't help giving in to the odd cream cake urge. I saw her as some kind of senior schoolteacher or one of the hospital admin types that spends her days struggling with budgets while the medics moan at her because there's no money and the hours are too long. I can't see glamour-girl Vicky being half as convincing in the same role.

Well done Astracadia. The fashionable, but not overtly sexy office attire, sensible shoes, and slightly frazzled hair definately suggest an administrative position in a fast paced office. I suspect when she meets her friends at the pub for an after work cocktail, she puts on her subtle brown eyeliner, and her favorite shade of coral lipstick (she can't be fussed for anymore make-up than that, mascara is definately out) she rates a solid 7.5 and doesn't have any problems getting the gentlemen to offer to buy her drinks. I don't think she is married because she has devoted herself to her career. Really great character.

Übrigens: Kein Mensch verlangt, ein Upgrade 'für'n Appel und'n Ei' zu bekommen. Wo hast Du das gelesen? Bei mir ganz bestimmt nicht; ich weiß zufällig, dass keine Firma von Luft und Liebe leben kann.

Das wollte ich Dir auch nicht unterstellen. Die Diskussion wg. "Upgrade" kam vor Jahren schon auf. Es gab beim "Herrschaftswechsel" von Victoria 2 zu Victoria 3 ein Upgrade Paket für V3, was etwas günstiger war. Was aber viele aus den Augen verloren zu haben scheinen, ohne den Einsatz eines Drittanbieter-Tools war die Bekleidung von V2 auch nicht automatisch mit V3 kompatibel, und der Victoria 2 Klon konnte die V3 Texturen ebenfalls nicht ohne Tooleinsatz verwenden.

Hi Arnold,

kannst Du gerne haben.
Seit fast genau 4,5 Jahren bin ich ein Repräsentant des sog. "Fachkräftemangels".
Gut ausgebildet, umfangreiche Erfahrung, einheimisch und dann noch Ü50.
Raus aus der Statistik, wie einige weitere Millionen auch. Zu teuer, zu alt.

Ja nee, lass man stecken.

Ach, deshalb importiert unsere "Anführerin der Freien Welt" gerade soviele "Fachkräfte" von überall her...

I've asked if I can get credit for owning the V5 and M5 Pro Bundles, as I've bought most of the content over time, plus I bought Carrara Pro, which includes the V5 and M5 Pro Bundles. It would seem logical that if you bought all the content, you could get credit for buying the bundle. We'll see what they say.

Maybe V5 but I doubt you would get credit for owning M5 since the discounts were  based only on the Victoria Pro Bundles.

Well, it took two months last time before Kelly for V7 came out here, so that's progress of a sort. Adrienne G3F came out at Renderosity in between Victoria and Kelly. (And to be fair(ish), Michael 7 had not one but TWO day-of-release black men, with Dash in the pro bundle and Darren a PA product.)

Michael's sort of always been different. M5 also had a black man in the Pro bundle. I do feel this is important with the Vicky/Mike bundles because those are considered the main/default bundles to get.

The Genesis 8 Female body shape is very similar to G3F, but there have been alot of upgrades behind the polygons.  Better joint bends, and automatic muscle flexing to name a couple.  I have not bought Victoria 8 and probably will not, I'm waiting for some of the other Generation 8 people to come out like Bethany and Kalea.

Personally, I am willing to use any figure, but Genesis 2 is my most common.  Each generation of figure has gotten better in some fundamental ways.  For example, the default joint bends of Victoria 6 and Michael 6 are much better than the corresponding default bends of Victoria 4 and Michael 4.  See it in the shoulders even if fully clothed.  However, there are fixes that can be done in Carrara, and there are 3rd party products to improve V4 and M4 joint bends, so I'm not saying joint bends would stop me from using V4 or M4 if I think they are good for another reason (for example, I have some Carrara hair products that grow directly on the mesh of V4 or M4). 

I own some of the GenX clones for converting content between figures.  I also have several character conversion packs for Poser's wardrobe wizard.  It is possible to do 2-step conversions (convert to M4, then to Genesis 2 male).  With those, I took some time while watching sports to use Studio's transfer utility to convert a lot of my content for other figures to be used with Genesis 2.  Just kept converting content through two NFL playoff games.  Now I can use my content for Poser 7's Simon and Sydney with Daz's Genesis 2 figures.  I can use content for the original Freak and Aiko3 with Daz's Genesis 2 figures.  All that in addition to the more general ablity to use V4 and M4 content with V6 and M6.  

Here is an example.  I own some vintage formal clothing content for the original David figure that was based on the V3 mesh.  I also own the David 3 genx clone.  If I plan to have a scene that harkens back to Dickens, I am more likely to use the Genesis 2 male morphed to the David 3 shape, wearing converted David 3 clothing content, then I am to use the original David 3 figure with its content.  The Genesis 2 Male morphed to look like David 3 will pose better than the original David 3.

EDIT: Bad example - don't have the David 3 morph for Genesis 2 male.  I have converted David 3 clothing for G2M, though, just don't own the product to shape G2M to be David 3.

Note - I do not typically focus on photo-realism.