Rogerbee said:

Great renders Kyoto,

One can hardly tell the make of MiG at that distance, all you can really see is a great looking render. Where did you get the Antonov from?

Nice render of the Harrier too, such a shame they got dropped in favour of the Apache.

CHEERS!

Yeah sad about the Harrier. Remarkable aircraft. Really changed the rules of aerial engagement with it's unique manoeuvreabilty. Yeah the new Sukhois and MiGs can make some impressive moves but nothing beats full thrust vectoring. A rotorcraft just doesn't have the speed or weapons load advantage to make it a "true" replacement. The entire fleet of retired UK Harriers ended up with the US Marines who themselves are looking at the F-35B as a replacement which has been experiencing some serious "teething pains" during development.

Ironically the F-35B's VTOL capability is being developed with data purchased from Russia's Yakovlev Design Bureau (Yak 141 NATO Codename "Freestyle"). So, not only are we depending on our former Cold War rival for getting into space, now we're consulting with them on advanced fighter design.

Meanwhile, the main engine trust vectoring system is supplied by none other than Rolls Royce. Considering their experience in this matter at least one component of this so far flawproned (and over budget) project will be solid.

Since the AV8's and UK Harriers are scheduled to be retired, maybe that fellow who bought the seven million Pepsi Points will be able to get one (non flightworthy of course) to put in his driveway after all. Give it a cool flame paint job chrome wheels and I'm sure it will draw attention from those who pass by.

Dave- I downloaded a smaller model and it came into Bryce in the default gray, and remembered you saying:

TheSavage64 said:

I regularly use Sketchup as the Free 3D Warehouse is a great place to find models.
They do usually need quite a bit of work once in Bryce, but it's also usually worth the effort.

Now I know what you meant, but it will keep me busy this weekend

@mermaid010 - if your laptop sports at least 4 GB, consider using LAA to make Bryce use up to 3.5 GB. As I figure from Dave's comments, the mesh might be too big for 2 GB or less of memory.

I tried the LAA after the 1st crash. You helped me with the “Out of memory” issue a few months ago when I had problems with one of David’s tutorial – I think it was the super reflection tut – not sure. This time Bryce crashes after 50% into the import. There is no "Out of memory" message. Thanks for mentioning it.

Rashad -Thanks for this tip.

Tjeb – thanks for sharing. That model is awesome.

rol3d said:

I'm running into the same issue as some others with materials not loading.

Environment: Windows 7; Daz 4.6.0.18

I DL'd this gas station on sharecg: http://www.sharecg.com/v/34828/gallery/5/3D-Model/gasstation
I converted it to an OBJ via http://www.greentoken.de/onlineconv/ which gave me an OBJ and an MTL.

The OBJ loads no problem as a gray model. I've tried a couple of things, but I can't get the materials to load.

Thanks for your help!

Edited to add... Did you check the actual OBJ files to see the texture names match?

For example, here is a bit of the OBJ file from one of my models:

vt -11.615625 3.498863
vt -11.634375 3.906096
vt 13.170851 3.179774
vt 13.016398 4.005964
vt 13.016398 3.164523
vt 13.170851 3.990712
vt -6.862940 -7.526053
vt -6.776430 -7.680658
vt -6.756874 -7.526053
vt -6.903709 -7.680658
usemtl M1818L_Galvanized_VT.jpg
s off
f 27445/17409 27446/17410 27447/17411
f 27446/17410 27445/17409 27448/17412
f 27449/17413 27450/17414 27451/17415
f 27450/17414 27449/17413 27452/17416
f 27453/17417 27454/17418 27455/17419
f 27454/17418 27453/17417 27456/17420
f 27457/17421 27458/17422 27459/17423
f 27458/17422 27457/17421 27460/17424
f 27461/17425 27462/17426 27463/17427

The program reading the OBJ file will use the MTL file to locate the texture called "M1818L_Galvanized_VT.jpg"

newmtl M1818L_Galvanized_VT.jpg
Ns 96.078431
Ka 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000
Kd 0.423530 0.420392 0.417255
Ks 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000
Ni 1.000000
d 1.000000
illum 2
map_Kd /Users/vic/Desktop/DynamicFieldGenerator/DynamicFieldGenerator-Type36_Textures/M1818L_Galvanized_VT.jpg

If it is even slightly misspelled like say "M1818LGalvanized_VT.jpg" or "M1818L_Galvanized_VT", the program reading the OBJ will not be able to find it. I frequently hack my OBJs to fix messed up material names that don't come out right in Poser... I make many of my models in SketchUp and tweak them in Blender, but since I have to export in Collada first, I lose all my Material names ( Image based texture names get messed up too sometimes) because the Collada exporter changes them all from normal names like "SteelSupport_Blued" to useless ones like "ID38383".
Sometimes convertors like to change material names... like say from "OakBark dark" to Oak_Bark_Dark" or something like that, or they cut off a character or two.

Wow Dave, it looks awesome. Did the model come in with the materials?

I tried with the .dae file but Bryce still crashes 50% into the import. The model I exported from Sketchup is 48.1mb and the .dae I downloaded is 18.5. Bryce crashes with either one. I think it’s the complexity of the model and my Laptop, it’s not too powerful.

Anyway I will try with one of the other smaller models of the Colosseum like the one Tjeb mentioned above.

Thanks for your help

mibit said:

how do I make it visible online a model allowing you to rotate and resize it? I remember a plugin that allowed me ... but do not think I ever used and I forgot. In what format should I save a template to be visible? I would need instructions - step by step.

migenius makes a plugin for google sketch that allows this functionality, it's used on the Sharecg.com website so it is either dedicated to models made outside of sketchup or it converts them for viewing.
How it works is would be a possible google search or a question for the sharecg forums.

mermaid010 said:

This is the model I'm trying to work with

http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=84563dbb4d76098d251309806ab975db&prevstart=0

It is simply the complexity of the model I think.
I have downloaded it and it did load into my copy of Bryce, but resizing/moving it is causing Bryce to be very slow and unresponsive.
At the moment I am trying to 'Land Object' and it's been unresponsive for 10 minutes. I will give it 30 minutes before I force quit it.

For information: I did a direct download of the .sae file not the Sketchup file. I did try the Sketchup file first but it even took 5 minutes to load into Sketchup and when I exported it, it took a further 10 minutes before crashing Sketchup leaving only a partial collection of material files in the folder I created to export it to.

Hope this helps. :)

nitehawk_ltd said:

Party on the patio with no monsters

A Halloween party for the big kids.
Don't worry, the Guitar player's horrible outfit will scare away any monsters.

Base figures not counted: (got them when they were free)
Aiko 3 #
Millennium Girls #
Hiro 3 #

Woman:
Vianne for A3
Glamor hair - DAZ 2.3 free content
Gothic Lolita dress #
LD stockings for A3
Hello Kitty earrings
Woman in red:
June for A3 #
Mitsu Hair - comes with Aiko3
CangalSuit3
Classy Shoes for Aiko #

Guy on left:
Jamie hair 2 down
Hiro Love Jeans by Adzan. - Link lost, not moved to sharecg yet.
Pants tex #
Harmony And Discord Boots by Adzan. - Link lost, not moved to sharecg yet.

Guy on right:
Short layered hair
Small Sins set # retextured

Woman in blue:
TenTen J MG/PT
Juliana tex #
Maturi ver2 & 70s fashion hose

Keyboard player:
Elwing for Aiko #
Punk GaGa Hair #
Fetish Set
Music keyboard 14 down

Guitar player:
cavalier hat - no link
Yahowi #
short dreads #
Vest #
HL Jeans
Metal Ax #

Scene:
Rain Alley #
Street #
potted plant - RDNA freebie NLA
Halloween sign #
Jack-O-Lantern #
Italian restaurant table #
Table cloth & Table cloth #
Plates #
Coffee table
Cookies & plates & Watermelon & lettuce
Glass pitcher .3ds
Cup cakes
BBQ grill #
Big burger - 4 down
Cooler
Soda cans - BionicRooster - no link.

Sketchup models, not counted:
Heinz ketchup
Mustard bottle
Vlasic pickles
Mayo (pickle jar retexured)
Propane tank
Paid items:
H3 shirts # retextured

Poses by me, with a lot of dial tweaking.
# free site registration required.
Software used:
Paint Shop Pro 7
Poseray to convert .3ds model to obj.
Rendered in DAZ Studio 2.3 no postwork
It looks like the HL jeans were deleted from Media Fire.

Interesting where you went with the set. Everything looks good here. Lots of freebies. I am going to assume that the guy playing guitar is your monster here.....lol.....oh wait, I see Frankie's head on the door!

ENTRY ACCEPTED

Party on the patio with no monsters

A Halloween party for the big kids.
Don't worry, the Guitar player's horrible outfit will scare away any monsters.

Base figures not counted: (got them when they were free)
Aiko 3 #
Millennium Girls #
Hiro 3 #

Woman:
Vianne for A3
Glamor hair - DAZ 2.3 free content
Gothic Lolita dress #
LD stockings for A3
Hello Kitty earrings
Woman in red:
June for A3 #
Mitsu Hair - comes with Aiko3
CangalSuit3
Classy Shoes for Aiko #

Guy on left:
Jamie hair 2 down
Hiro Love Jeans by Adzan. - Link lost, not moved to sharecg yet.
Pants tex #
Harmony And Discord Boots by Adzan. - Link lost, not moved to sharecg yet.

Guy on right:
Short layered hair
Small Sins set # retextured

Woman in blue:
TenTen J MG/PT
Juliana tex #
Maturi ver2 & 70s fashion hose

Keyboard player:
Elwing for Aiko #
Punk GaGa Hair #
Fetish Set
Music keyboard 14 down

Guitar player:
cavalier hat - no link
Yahowi #
short dreads #
Vest #
HL Jeans
Metal Ax #

Scene:
Rain Alley #
Street #
potted plant - RDNA freebie NLA
Halloween sign #
Jack-O-Lantern #
Italian restaurant table #
Table cloth & Table cloth #
Plates #
Coffee table
Cookies & plates & Watermelon & lettuce
Glass pitcher .3ds
Cup cakes
BBQ grill #
Big burger - 4 down
Cooler
Soda cans - BionicRooster - no link.

Sketchup models, not counted:
Heinz ketchup
Mustard bottle
Vlasic pickles
Mayo (pickle jar retexured)
Propane tank
Paid items:
H3 shirts # retextured

Poses by me, with a lot of dial tweaking.
# free site registration required.
Software used:
Paint Shop Pro 7
Poseray to convert .3ds model to obj.
Rendered in DAZ Studio 2.3 no postwork
It looks like the HL jeans were deleted from Media Fire.

This is the model I'm trying to work with

http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=84563dbb4d76098d251309806ab975db&prevstart=0

Thanks Cdordoni and Tjeb for your input. I will check both suggestions.

Dave’s (TheSavage) suggestion worked. I managed to export from Sketchup and import the .dae file into Bryce --a few small files, like the dog I mentioned earlier and some other animals. It’s just that Bryce crashes with big files like the Colosseum and other buildings models that I downloaded this morning.

It’s only when I scale the model in Sketchup before exporting it that I have a problem. Obviously I’m doing something wrong.

Tjeb, your Colosseum render is lovely, thanks for sharing.

Thanks everyone.

You could try a different approach:
- Download Sketchup Pro. Don't buy it, just download the trial version.
It will give you some hours evaluation time, enough for converting lots of models; because that is what you do:
import the .skp model, check for unwanted items, like a floor, trees, whatever, then export to .obj

- in my example (I hardly know how to use Bryce) I used the colosseum model from 3dHH.
- if you want a more detailed one, let me know; the third picture is a Blender file. (That is: if the forum is not reversing my sequence)

You could try OBJ or another format if you can't get DAE to work.

The SketchUp free version does not save OBJ as I recall and is very limited in its export formats; however, there are free plugin that import/export additional formats. Go here http://sketchucation.com/resources/plugin-store-download

Thanks Dave, I managed to export from Sketchup and import the Colosseum to Bryce, but Bryce crashed, every time I tried.

I think the model is big. I tried with a dog model and it worked. I down-scaled the Colosseum model in Sketchup and then exported it but I got a blank .dae and no material folder.

Can you shed more light on this?

You are right the 3D Warehouse has awesome models.

Thanks once again.

nitehawk_ltd said:

Little Monsters
OR, The party before the party.

A Halloween party on the patio for the little ones.

Base figures not counted: (got them when they were free)
Aiko 3 #
Millennium Boys #
Millennium Girls #

Woman:
Vianne for A3
Glamour hair - DAZ 2.3 free content
Gothic Lolita dress #
LD stockings for A3
Pumps #
Hello Kitty earrings
2nd woman:
TenTen J MG/PT
Juliana tex #
Maturi ver2 & 70s fashion hose
Shoes

Chibi Miku - Link bad?
Indian:
Tenten ps
Koz Short bob hair
Indian dress 9 down
Headband bottom of page
Sensible-Shoes # - link down - see later post

Super:
Koz Messy hair
Cloth set # re-textured
cape #

Witch:
Witch set #

Scene:
Rain Alley #
Street #
potted plant - RDNA freebie NLA
Halloween sign #
Boom box - no link
Broom #
Jack-O-Lantern #
Italian restaurant table #
Table cloth & Table cloth #
Bar stool #
Seat pillows by 5D-Art - link lost RDNA
Cookies & plates
Plates #
Peanut butter & jelly sandwich # - link broke
Coffee table
Glass pitcher .3ds
Cup cakes

Sketchup model, not counted:
A/C unit
Poses by me, with a lot of dial tweaking.
# free site registration required.
Software used:
Paint Shop Pro 7
Poseray to convert .3ds model to obj.
Rendered in DAZ Studio 2.3 no postwork

I really like this render. It fits the theme, has the freebies, good lighting, good poses and scene. Full size image looks especially nice.

ENTRY ACCEPTED

:-)

I regularly use Sketchup as the Free 3D Warehouse is a great place to find models.
They do usually need quite a bit of work once in Bryce, but it's also usually worth the effort.

As such, the first thing I would check is that you have this box ticked in the "Import Object" window in Bryce.
And of course, that when you export from Sketchup, that you have saved it as a .dae file.

Hope this helps. :)

In the Freebie challenge, and also in the Car render thread there is some talk about using PoseRay to convert Sketchup models. to OBJ

1. Save imported items as an asset - File>Save as>Support Asset>Figure prop Asset.

2. Scaling will be inherited by a parented prop, but if you want to inherit morphs you need to make it a figure - doing that with something like a bracelet, assuming it is made to line up with the zeroed figure, is trivial; Edit>Figure>Transfer Utility..., set the figure (Genesis or Genesis 2 Female, presumably) as the Source and the prop as the the Target, then click Accept. Items like a sword that project a long way out from the figure are apt to be a bit fiddlier as they will probably not get a uniform weight map - you will probably want to use the Polygon Group Editor, from the Tool menu, to combine all the finger and hand groups into one hand group and then give the whole item a uniform weight of 1 with the Weight Map Brush tool (just right-click to get to to (and you will probably want to right-click with the Polygon Group editor and select Polygon Assignment>Create Rigidity Group to stop the auto morphs from distorting the item).

3. and 4. Sorry, I don't use Sketchup.

Hello all. I'm looking to use daz as a character builder, with sketchup as an accent to create my items, all for personal use.

a few questions, if you please

1. How do I position and save my new items for permanent use from within daz?
Ex. I create a wrist band in sketchup, next I want to click on it's pic in my daz library and have it load onto the genesis model's wrist

2. How do I add the auto-fit parameter to my new item, thus allowing it to auto scale with the genesis model?

3. What causes certain items to not fully import into daz?
Ex. I created a sword in sketchup and when importing into daz only the lower half of the hilt came in. (.dae)

4. (cont. from 3) If file type, can anyone recommend a good/free import/export plugin for sketchup, preferably without having to create a new account.

Thanks for your time and help, I'll be asking more questions on this same thread later, such as dynamic clothing, easy way to add materials to items, etc. as I find I need help.

Can someone help me with this? I found a nice model of the Colosseum but it’s a Sketchup file. I downloaded and installed Sketchup and opened the file and exported it as a 3d model.

But I cannot import the model in Bryce, I get “An unexpected error has occurred (generic failure)” error.

I don’t want to learn how to use Sketchup as learning Bryce and Wings 3D is all I can handle at the moment. Can someone show me how to export then import this model so I can render it in Bryce.

Thanks.

Little Monsters
OR, The party before the party.

A Halloween party on the patio for the little ones.

Base figures not counted: (got them when they were free)
Aiko 3 #
Millennium Boys #
Millennium Girls #

Woman:
Vianne for A3
Glamour hair - DAZ 2.3 free content
Gothic Lolita dress #
LD stockings for A3
Pumps #
Hello Kitty earrings
2nd woman:
TenTen J MG/PT
Juliana tex #
Maturi ver2 & 70s fashion hose
Shoes

Chibi Miku - Link bad?
Indian:
Tenten ps
Koz Short bob hair
Indian dress 9 down
Headband bottom of page
Sensible-Shoes # - link down - see later post

Super:
Koz Messy hair
Cloth set # re-textured
cape #

Witch:
Witch set #

Scene:
Rain Alley #
Street #
potted plant - RDNA freebie NLA
Halloween sign #
Boom box - no link
Broom #
Jack-O-Lantern #
Italian restaurant table #
Table cloth & Table cloth #
Bar stool #
Seat pillows by 5D-Art - link lost RDNA
Cookies & plates
Plates #
Peanut butter & jelly sandwich # - link broke
Coffee table
Glass pitcher .3ds
Cup cakes

Sketchup model, not counted:
A/C unit
Poses by me, with a lot of dial tweaking.
# free site registration required.
Software used:
Paint Shop Pro 7
Poseray to convert .3ds model to obj.
Rendered in DAZ Studio 2.3 no postwork