leemoon_c43b45a114 said:

I didn't use Michael 9 at full strength, and I mixed a tiny bit of Toon Heroes and Growing Up in with him.  There's also some physique shaping going on with various morph add-ons.  Hair is the dForce Ultimate Buzzcut Hair, pants and boots are from The King's Guard Outfit, and the vest is from the dForce Dark Assassin outfit (with the shirt opacity turned off.)

Lee

He looks really cute Lee.  Reminds me a bit of Hiro 4 Realistic.   

leemoon_c43b45a114 said:

I didn't use Michael 9 at full strength, and I mixed a tiny bit of Toon Heroes and Growing Up in with him.  There's also some physique shaping going on with various morph add-ons.  Hair is the dForce Ultimate Buzzcut Hair, pants and boots are from The King's Guard Outfit, and the vest is from the dForce Dark Assassin outfit (with the shirt opacity turned off.)

Lee

Love your version of him, Lee!

These morph are pre-existing morphs, and I'm using tiem ago, it was now that make this problem. I add the log file.

leemoon_c43b45a114 said:

I didn't use Michael 9 at full strength, and I mixed a tiny bit of Toon Heroes and Growing Up in with him.  There's also some physique shaping going on with various morph add-ons.  Hair is the dForce Ultimate Buzzcut Hair, pants and boots are from The King's Guard Outfit, and the vest is from the dForce Dark Assassin outfit (with the shirt opacity turned off.)

Lee

I really like this, and I'm convinced to pick up the Toon Heroes morphs now. :D 

carrie58 said:

Reinstall Toon Heros for G9 the fix is in !!

That was fast!

As far as dialing in masculine morphs that is a confusion. I installed some of AOBB's femine and masculine head morphs for Genesis 9 and noticed they looked odd. So I asked AOBB and she said I am not supposed to dial in the base feminine or base masculine heads for G9 for her morphs.

I think base morphs are supposed to be for those that only make head morphs or body morphs but not the other. Plenty of head morphs have been offered in the store with no body morph included, likewise body morphs with no head morphs included.  So those base shapes are meant to be used in that way. PAs are supposed to start with the "middle of the road base androgynous model" when they make a product, or at least that's what's been happening with DAZ Originals.

You can import a vertex cache animation with obj and morph loader. Don't know if there's a plugin to automate this.

edit. Found this.

https://github.com/versluis/animmorph

benniewoodell said:

Oso3D said:

Like, the Michael 9 promos don't show feminine versions of Michael 9... that's not the product.

But there's two promos showing feminine versions of Michael 9 though. 

Yes - but its up to the PA if they want to render it or not - its not a standard feature. The hair mentioned in this article is a great example - its clearly not a female hairstyle even though it would fit on the female base. Its extra hours work to set up a promo render which imo is a waste of time, same as setting up a render with one of the males in a bikini. Can it be done? yes... Should it? that's debatable, its really not serving a purpose other than showing it fits on the shape.

Spending more time adds to the price, especially if you keep track of how much you're getting paid per hour spent on a product.

I'm going to toss another thought into the pile. Its a unisex base yes - which you can make anything you want on. M9 has none of the masculine morph in it. V9 has none of the feminine morph in. They're sculpted from scratch. The feminine and masculine morphs are there as a starter base morph - but they're not a base figure like Genesis 8 male and Genesis 8 Female. So which female and which male are you going to show it on? the starter genders? M9? V9? What if the PA doesn't own them.

With the base shape set up the way it is, its very easy for something to fit on pretty much anything, including the corgi. In the end its going to be up to the PA to show the vision they had when creating the item.

Okay, so just trying to dial Boyd up using the morphs I have in Genesis 9. It won't be fully Boyd yet, due to a lack of muscle and several facial morphs, I can't convert yet. But we are close/r

The pecs are super annoying. Michael 9's morph causes the current weird upper chest groove. 

Mada said:

There's a couple things to keep in mind here :)

PAs don't have to support both genders if they don't want to. As long as it fits on the gender they designed it for and advertise for - that's good enough.

The morph projections works pretty well for the opposite gender on the G9 mesh, so as a rule if it fits on the base shape it will fit reasonably well on both genders
BUT if the product wasn't designed with the other gender in mind there's no reason to expect the PA to support all the shapes.

So if there HAS to be a standard then I would say yes - have one promo on the base shape, and a promo to show off the gender it was created for. If it works on the other gender, great - that's a bonus - show it off by all means, but its not required.

Hi Mada, looking forward to see your work for G9

I doubt any PA would want to blatantly label any item as 'G9F' / 'G9M' exclusive, as it kills the whole purpose of advertising G9 as a unisex base.

I know it's not fair to say that a lot of G9 clothes released before M9 are clearly (or should I say mainly) for the female base of G9, so I won't. I still look forward to see how clothes and hair look on both sexes though. Some may find it odd / outrageous / absurd but as a customer being advertised that G9 is unisex base I sure want to see for myself before buying

I didn't use Michael 9 at full strength, and I mixed a tiny bit of Toon Heroes and Growing Up in with him.  There's also some physique shaping going on with various morph add-ons.  Hair is the dForce Ultimate Buzzcut Hair, pants and boots are from The King's Guard Outfit, and the vest is from the dForce Dark Assassin outfit (with the shirt opacity turned off.)

Lee

@crp - thank you for your render!  I'm glad you like the morph.  I still think Luminous' nose is too big, so if you want to rerender the image with DOF, then you might use this opportunity to decrease her nose and slim its ridge a bit (if you have the morphs). Anyway thank you again for posting your image here. Great fun! 

Great morph.  Thank you for this!

Tried to recreate this pic, but I think the eye material I used is too light & I have to add DOF obviously:

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000030/mediaviewer/rm1247654657?ref_=nmmi_mi_all_sf_24

Thanks. I'll give it a shot. I want to remake specific characters whose faces combine morphs. I can transfer the morphed head. But I find I may want to adjust some morph strengths which don't work as well on 9. Eye morphs in particular since the eye structure is so different.

I agree about the muscle morphs. That would be a big project but genesis 9 male does need them. Badly.

Serene Night said:

Mike 9 does not need the Masculine morphs, his base figure does not come with them. 

his base figure is Genesis 9 which does come with a Masculine morph tho 

There's a couple things to keep in mind here :)

PAs don't have to support both genders if they don't want to. As long as it fits on the gender they designed it for and advertise for - that's good enough.

The morph projections works pretty well for the opposite gender on the G9 mesh, so as a rule if it fits on the base shape it will fit reasonably well on both genders
BUT if the product wasn't designed with the other gender in mind there's no reason to expect the PA to support all the shapes.

So if there HAS to be a standard then I would say yes - have one promo on the base shape, and a promo to show off the gender it was created for. If it works on the other gender, great - that's a bonus - show it off by all means, but its not required.

Um-m, we're up to version 1.2, which I believe uses an entirely different approach, scanning the morph folders instead of a loaded figure. The "Scan for Morphs" button starts the process.

Serene Night said:

Very helpful. Is there a way to transfer just a single morph, such as a chin morph or something, without getting the entire figure? 

same method and you can use attenuate by in morphloader too for separate body parts 

Okay, now probably slightly more confused.

According to the script when run without G8F loaded, I am running v1.10 (re-un/reinstalled upon noticing issue 1 below).

1. I do not have the button to scan for morphs as seen in the video (this button is also missing in the G8M script, unsure if that means anything or is helpful).

2. I do not have any G8F-related entries in the Options/Filtered Products area

3. While I can Reset Morph Directory to my morph location, it will scan for ~ 11-12 seconds, then tell me it enabled 0 of 0 morphs (0 failed) (This also occurs in the G8M script, which I assume is normal due to shared logic).

Since I've never been able to successfully do a scan, I can't imagine how my config could be bad, per se, but I am open to the idea I may have clicked something on accident, somewhere, and am just not understanding which troubleshooting step I am getting wrong.

I can post the log file, but it literally just says I opened the script, many, many lines of "2022-11-17 19:34:30.426 [INFO] :: Getting files from {...}" {...}} being each of the folders that in fact contain my morphs), and that the script executed successfully. No errors, just nothing actually doing anything in the end.

For all intents and purposes, it almost seems like I don't really have the script, or it doesn't recognize anything on my system at all as valid anything. Very weird, and kinda frustrating.

I'm going with the "it should" concept - basically, when G9 is fit to G8.1, you should be able to dial up said morph towhatever it's maxe value is, on G8.1, and G9 would follow.

From there it would be a matter of saving the morph shape off from G9, and reloading it as a morph.

Quite a few steps, but as I said it "should" work. 

Remember that all these characters from G8.1 are in fact just a bunch of Morphs and dial changes. So if it can be done for the full character, should be able to do it for a single Morph.

I'm atcually looking at the $40, full muscle morphs on G8.1 right now and thinking pretty much the same thing, Since I really do not want to have to spend another $40 just to get them on G9 if they can be transfered. These character 'upgrades' always take a huge chunk out of the ole pocketbook, just to get back to the basic functionality the previous character had.

algovincian said:

Petra said:

algovincian said:

Petra said:

Hylas said:

@Petra: I love it!

He has lady-hips, though?

I think it is the T.shirt. 

Very cool image, @Petra! Are you suggesting that it's because the tshirt is designed to fit over a pair of pants? Or is it just something that happens to clothing when dialing in the base masculine morph on G9 (meaning he doesn't actually have larger hips - it's just the way clothes fit that makes him look like he has larger hips)?

- Greg

He also has Toon Heroes dialled in and that might also contribute to the look of the hips.

I need to bring the scene back up and take his clothes off to see.  

True. Thanks for responding, and please don't go through any trouble. I can run some tests myself using just plain G9 once my machine is done training a network. 

- Greg

ETA: Just DLed and installed DS on another idle box and tried dialing in the base masculine morph on G9 while it was wearing the Every Day 2 shirt (both the G8F and G8M versions of the shirt). Did not notice this issue, so you're probably right.

Out of curiosity, what shirt is that?

Hi :)

The Shirt is the one that comes with the essentials for G9.