Quick comparison of Victoria 8 and Olympia 8 head shapes.

That should put to rest the part of the discussion about them looking like sisters. May not clear up the "masculinity" claims, but like someone else said, a bunch of women I know would be horrified to find out they were male...

Quick comparison of Victoria 8 and Olympia 8 head shapes.

Quite nice

Thanks to Novica showing her renders, I tried a different light set up here. Used "light 10r" from Colm's Pro-Studio light set, the first one. Massive difference in her skin. I think the trick to Olympia is going to be the lighting if you don't want her looking like an oompa loompa. I'm going to have redo entirely my light set up for Olympia. I still think she looks a bit plastic with her skin. 

Quick test render here. Click for larger pic. 

I forgot a light to put highlights in her eyes, and I hate her painted on eyebrows, because the mats for her eyebrow prop don't work unless you have Victoria 8, so I'm stuck with the painted ones from the makeup mats. 

Ah, it's that magically appearing semi-colon that gets added to the end of the link, for reasons that no-one on earth understands. LOL. Yep, the first one is the one I have. It looks like I'll have to completely redo ALL my lighting setups for Olympia 8, as my normal ones make her look orange. I used the Pro-Studio first set, the light was "Light 10R", just default. Her skin came out MUCH lighter. It still looks a bit plasticy to me tho, although it looks a HUGE improvement on my first one with my standard lights. Also I forgot to add a light to add highlights to her eyes.  And I had to use the "painted" eyebrows with the makeup, as the accessory eyebrows included with her don't take the included mats unless you have Victoria 8. Grrrrrrr. (they really need to put that on her product page) Render time was fairly decent too, for a change. Honestly, there are times when I think DS is very arbitrary with its render times and grain for me :sigh:

Right. Your link doesn't work btw, gives 404. It's the first one of the Pro-Studio sets. It has blue and red and other slightly tinged lights, so you can usually find a great one to balance whatever color you're trying to negate. I use it a LOT for the portraits on the thread, so I am comparing apples with apples when I tell folks what color skin the characters tend to have. And there's dramatic top lighting, side lighting, underneath lighting added to some- and by merely changing the ISO and Exposure Value, you can create nice dark images. These also work well for scenes! 

Edit- there's 163 gallery links, that should tell ya something  :) 

 

 

Quick comparison of Victoria 8 and Olympia 8 head shapes.

I got the pro bundle and really like Sharah. She has the best face of the G8 line so far.

The clothing is meh, for example the barbarian outfit is one piece for top and skirt and what's the point of the desert watcher?

I would really appreciate an official DAZ statement on eyebrow strategy.

Since Victoria 8 and Olympia 8 come with eyebrow props I won't buy characters for them without a no brow option.

Reading all the comments makes me feel like I've dropped into the Twilight Zone. I think she looks stunning!! Really beautiful! 

it is amusing don't you think that usually the complaint is each figure is toooo pretty/perfect not average everday looking or is youngish looking needs to be more mature older looking or toooo skinny and then they give us that or try to and then still complaints saying she's ugly or fat or old or butch the only female figure I've seen relised that everyone raved over was Star. Oh well can't please everyone. I also look at the related  extras you can buy which gives you more an idea of the newer character/s some interesting like the add on clothing textures or poses and so on as sometimes these better display the potential of the new characters and there are a few there that show off both the tough gritty side as well as more softer side of Olympia, Victoria and Gen8 as well as some of the add on characters. Got pro yeah maybe could've just gone for the base but want a few things to get going yeah she and Vicky can use older stuff but still nice to have few of their own things too and I think the archery set is ok too has that action comic suoer hero vibe feel to it would buy some of the extras if could afford 

lol Yeah. Can't please everyone, that's for sure. One thing I think MIGHT be causing (or at least contributing to) the complain-fest is that there is a lot of really negative stuff going on in the world right now, and I think that might be affecting both people's moods as well as making them a LOT more picky about what they spend their money on. (That's just a theory though.)

I absolutely love Olympia 8 and will be getting her as soon as I'm able to get some money coming in. :)

I think you'll like her you know she may make a good starting point for a G8 version of Lady Death

yeah always negative now days in everything just look at anything on facebook even a cute and funny aniaml pic or video enrages people 

some say O looks too manly maybe some she looks like a tough lady but there are plenty in rl do but same time there are a few promo renders that make her look softer and others that make her look like an average don't wanna say plain but as someone that doesn't stand out as for some saying looking like Vicky well looking at the different shots I think even in the base promos some are featuring showing what she looks like with Vicky skin or part of her dialed in but not saying it like others promos have when they've displayed other characters shapes dialed combined or skin textures used

hahah She WOULD make a nice base for Lady Death! :)  I'm still working on trying to find a couple of really good white-haired hair shaders.

 I'm still working on trying to find a couple of really good white-haired hair shaders.

There's a product called IrayPair Hair Shaders by OOT over at the other store and I find that it works on any hair, old or new, as well as on brows and eyelashes (I admit to using them on almost every hair prop now). The expansion colors for it have a lovely white shade that you might take a look at.

Ah cool I'll check it out, thank you! :)

Lovely avatar by the way. :)

So checked out, used my $6 PC+ one for vendors- (spend $18)  so  the Restaurant outfits went 77% off and down to $4.67 each, the Chamber of Sorrows 77% and $5.36 (it has a couple separate rooms, and with shadering might even look like modern deco style. Think outside the box. Those stone "benches" along the wall could be made separate material zones, etc.)  Phyrra for Mika 7 went to $4.43 at 77% off. Rescue Equipment was $5.32 at 67% off. 

I got Sharah, Kacia, Daphne each at $6.97 so I have morphs to apply to my skins from the other generations. (And Olympia 8 so the morphs are doubled- can use the G8F figure, which these will work on and look different, plus the Olympia 8 figure for them.)  And I did get the Legacy UV's for Victoria 6 to go on Genesis 8. Too many V6 gals not to take advantage of the better expressions. I'll try to render a few of these gals for you using the Pro-Studio lights, as usual. Then tomorrow, since I literally wasted all day today on this, I'm not posting much.

Reading all the comments makes me feel like I've dropped into the Twilight Zone. I think she looks stunning!! Really beautiful! 

it is amusing don't you think that usually the complaint is each figure is toooo pretty/perfect not average everday looking or is youngish looking needs to be more mature older looking or toooo skinny and then they give us that or try to and then still complaints saying she's ugly or fat or old or butch the only female figure I've seen relised that everyone raved over was Star. Oh well can't please everyone. I also look at the related  extras you can buy which gives you more an idea of the newer character/s some interesting like the add on clothing textures or poses and so on as sometimes these better display the potential of the new characters and there are a few there that show off both the tough gritty side as well as more softer side of Olympia, Victoria and Gen8 as well as some of the add on characters. Got pro yeah maybe could've just gone for the base but want a few things to get going yeah she and Vicky can use older stuff but still nice to have few of their own things too and I think the archery set is ok too has that action comic suoer hero vibe feel to it would buy some of the extras if could afford 

lol Yeah. Can't please everyone, that's for sure. One thing I think MIGHT be causing (or at least contributing to) the complain-fest is that there is a lot of really negative stuff going on in the world right now, and I think that might be affecting both people's moods as well as making them a LOT more picky about what they spend their money on. (That's just a theory though.)

I absolutely love Olympia 8 and will be getting her as soon as I'm able to get some money coming in. :)

I think you'll like her you know she may make a good starting point for a G8 version of Lady Death

yeah always negative now days in everything just look at anything on facebook even a cute and funny aniaml pic or video enrages people 

some say O looks too manly maybe some she looks like a tough lady but there are plenty in rl do but same time there are a few promo renders that make her look softer and others that make her look like an average don't wanna say plain but as someone that doesn't stand out as for some saying looking like Vicky well looking at the different shots I think even in the base promos some are featuring showing what she looks like with Vicky skin or part of her dialed in but not saying it like others promos have when they've displayed other characters shapes dialed combined or skin textures used

hahah She WOULD make a nice base for Lady Death! :)  I'm still working on trying to find a couple of really good white-haired hair shaders.

She's pretty much perfect for Lady Death. I'm definitely looking forward to getting her!

 

 

was wondering on your progress wouldn't mind doing a version too mentioned before did Purgatori and the owner creator loves fanart love to do Evil Ernie. Haven't done a Vampirella for ages either yeah different company but was crossovers Vampi took on LD and P teamed up with LD. Actually Olympia here would work as Vampi too been a few different sizes builds of her over the years depending on the artist. Body shape wise she may also be good with some morphing in some areas for a Bettie Page type character model you know the curvey models of the 40s-50's and some later ones 80s mostly British ones they were more curvey

Reading all the comments makes me feel like I've dropped into the Twilight Zone. I think she looks stunning!! Really beautiful! 

it is amusing don't you think that usually the complaint is each figure is toooo pretty/perfect not average everday looking or is youngish looking needs to be more mature older looking or toooo skinny and then they give us that or try to and then still complaints saying she's ugly or fat or old or butch the only female figure I've seen relised that everyone raved over was Star. Oh well can't please everyone. I also look at the related  extras you can buy which gives you more an idea of the newer character/s some interesting like the add on clothing textures or poses and so on as sometimes these better display the potential of the new characters and there are a few there that show off both the tough gritty side as well as more softer side of Olympia, Victoria and Gen8 as well as some of the add on characters. Got pro yeah maybe could've just gone for the base but want a few things to get going yeah she and Vicky can use older stuff but still nice to have few of their own things too and I think the archery set is ok too has that action comic suoer hero vibe feel to it would buy some of the extras if could afford 

lol Yeah. Can't please everyone, that's for sure. One thing I think MIGHT be causing (or at least contributing to) the complain-fest is that there is a lot of really negative stuff going on in the world right now, and I think that might be affecting both people's moods as well as making them a LOT more picky about what they spend their money on. (That's just a theory though.)

I absolutely love Olympia 8 and will be getting her as soon as I'm able to get some money coming in. :)

I think you'll like her you know she may make a good starting point for a G8 version of Lady Death

yeah always negative now days in everything just look at anything on facebook even a cute and funny aniaml pic or video enrages people 

some say O looks too manly maybe some she looks like a tough lady but there are plenty in rl do but same time there are a few promo renders that make her look softer and others that make her look like an average don't wanna say plain but as someone that doesn't stand out as for some saying looking like Vicky well looking at the different shots I think even in the base promos some are featuring showing what she looks like with Vicky skin or part of her dialed in but not saying it like others promos have when they've displayed other characters shapes dialed combined or skin textures used

hahah She WOULD make a nice base for Lady Death! :)  I'm still working on trying to find a couple of really good white-haired hair shaders.

She's pretty much perfect for Lady Death. I'm definitely looking forward to getting her!

Reading all the comments makes me feel like I've dropped into the Twilight Zone. I think she looks stunning!! Really beautiful! 

it is amusing don't you think that usually the complaint is each figure is toooo pretty/perfect not average everday looking or is youngish looking needs to be more mature older looking or toooo skinny and then they give us that or try to and then still complaints saying she's ugly or fat or old or butch the only female figure I've seen relised that everyone raved over was Star. Oh well can't please everyone. I also look at the related  extras you can buy which gives you more an idea of the newer character/s some interesting like the add on clothing textures or poses and so on as sometimes these better display the potential of the new characters and there are a few there that show off both the tough gritty side as well as more softer side of Olympia, Victoria and Gen8 as well as some of the add on characters. Got pro yeah maybe could've just gone for the base but want a few things to get going yeah she and Vicky can use older stuff but still nice to have few of their own things too and I think the archery set is ok too has that action comic suoer hero vibe feel to it would buy some of the extras if could afford 

lol Yeah. Can't please everyone, that's for sure. One thing I think MIGHT be causing (or at least contributing to) the complain-fest is that there is a lot of really negative stuff going on in the world right now, and I think that might be affecting both people's moods as well as making them a LOT more picky about what they spend their money on. (That's just a theory though.)

I absolutely love Olympia 8 and will be getting her as soon as I'm able to get some money coming in. :)

I think you'll like her you know she may make a good starting point for a G8 version of Lady Death

yeah always negative now days in everything just look at anything on facebook even a cute and funny aniaml pic or video enrages people 

some say O looks too manly maybe some she looks like a tough lady but there are plenty in rl do but same time there are a few promo renders that make her look softer and others that make her look like an average don't wanna say plain but as someone that doesn't stand out as for some saying looking like Vicky well looking at the different shots I think even in the base promos some are featuring showing what she looks like with Vicky skin or part of her dialed in but not saying it like others promos have when they've displayed other characters shapes dialed combined or skin textures used

I am surprised there is no additional discount offered to Victoria 8 Pro Bundle buyers.  Heck, I just bought the 2 nerd bundles yesterday + own Victoria 8 Pro bundle - you woulda thunked they'd offer me a sweeter deal for Olympia 8 - who looks so very much like Victoria 8, just better fed and more fitness conscious, I guess.

There seems to be a discount for O7 and/or O6 owners.

There is?? Hmmm...must be other requirements that I haven't met I guess *shrug*

Laurie

I have a 63% discount on the pro bundle when I put it in the cart. I own both O6 and O7, that must be the trigger for the bigger discount, although I haven't seen any official word about it anywhere.

Yse, there seems to be a discount for people who have the items being offered free - there should apparently be a message ("orange banner"), daz is looking into why we aren't seeing it.

seeing the orange banner now extra 15% off already have her but I did get a huge discount I think when I got her was $66+ in checkout was $56+ so I'm pretty happy about that had all the free bonuses already except for 7 pro but even if I had had that too that extra 10 off bonus but adding pro7 too very happy

I'm giving this so much thought I'm surprised I don't have a major headache. I do NOT like Olympia 8 (the eyebrows, her overall face) but with no GenX2 to transfer morphs up (and not wanting to go through the other processes required, as I have over 230 characters just from ONE of the previous generations) I am thinking it might be best to:

1. buy Olympia 8 so the V8 / Gen8F morphs work as they should (she's 63% off and $16.52, so that's fine. I already used my DO coupon so no love there.) 
2. buy a couple (or three) of the new Olympia 8 characters to get more morphs (aka the nose, the mouth)
3. use only the skins from previous generations as I can't get the morphs right now (No GenX2)  but this way, I can use Gen8F for those great expressions, instead of Gen3F.  I already have for the Gen8F/Victoria 8  Elizabeth, Camille, P3Duffy, Raw Honey, Rebekah, VYK Raine and those have a good variety of nose and mouth variations. 

AHA, found the list. Thank you to the vendor- here's who uses the Victoria 5 UVs. Makes it worthwhile. And what a CRAPPY STORE FILTER DROPDOWN!  Compare this list to the piddly list I provided. However, I don't have most of those so that was a time saver. So I'm going to surf that thread and read more about the wrongly identified UVs. What a pain.

EDIT: Wow, I have almost all the list from Victoria 6, that UV one is zipping in the cart. The materials on many of these are really excellent! The Genesis 2 F is a big category for me (as was G3F.) 

Why do Olympia 8's eyebrow mats require Victoria 8???? I'm putting in a ticket for this, her page doesn't say anywhere she requires V8. 

Probably because the eyebrows are in the V8 package. G8F only has the eyelashes.

Which is a mistake from the marketing standpoint. Ideally two different bases could do with two different-shaped eybrow packages.

Olympia 8 Review:

With the orange banner of 15%, my PC coupon and a small amount of store credit i had, the Olympia 8 base was only $8.80 So I picked her up today. I'm 98% certain i will be returning her today too. 

Serious question: does the new skin shading on the 8 line mean we have to change our lighting techniques? Do I have to learn a brand new way of lighting, buy different light sets and HDR's to get the 8 line looking good? My setups for G3 are just no good anymore? 

There's an error with Olympia 8's eyebrow mats - throws up a message saying files are missing...the Victoria 8 eyebrow uv's specifically. O8's page doesn't say she needs V8 to work, so either they forgot to move the eyebrow uv's to O8 or they have stuffed up in making her. I've sent in a ticket about them - Olympia 8's eyebrows look like massive slugs on her face. 

The lipstick is very defined on the lips - it doens't seem to blend naturally like O7's. 

Her skin....what can I say about her skin? Other than...ugh. She looks orange. It doesn't look natural at all. I'm really curious what lighting her promos used, because she's orange in my lighting. 

Her face is bland. It seems to have no...definition at all. It's like a shapeless blob. 

When you put her next to Olympia 7, it's like putting Victoria 3 next to G3. 

Makeups don't show in preview mode, only in render. Not a deal breaker cos at least they work but it's just a bit of an annoyance when you're setting up a scene and you can't remember which makeup you used. 

Olympia 7 was my all time favourite girl - didn't like her on release, fell madly in love when I rendered her and use her ALL the time. Had really high hopes for Olympia 8, but they have been cruely dashed. LOL. I just don't like the 8 line at all. 

Quick comparison render. Same lights, same hair, same pose, same clothes, same everything. Translucency Medium used on both 7 and 8. 

Click on image to see larger, will open in new window. 

Thank you for taking time to evaluate her and report your impressions.

does she come with a separate body shape slider, no scaling applied?

Thanks. !!  

i'm waffling cause vicki8 didn't have a shape only option,

Really? That's generally considered a nono, so I can't imagine DAZ has done that on a main character. Can't you just dial the head to zero?

Victoria 8 does have separate morphs, I'm not sure why they said that there isn't:

Olympia 8 Review:

With the orange banner of 15%, my PC coupon and a small amount of store credit i had, the Olympia 8 base was only $8.80 So I picked her up today. I'm 98% certain i will be returning her today too. 

Serious question: does the new skin shading on the 8 line mean we have to change our lighting techniques? Do I have to learn a brand new way of lighting, buy different light sets and HDR's to get the 8 line looking good? My setups for G3 are just no good anymore? 

There's an error with Olympia 8's eyebrow mats - throws up a message saying files are missing...the Victoria 8 eyebrow uv's specifically. O8's page doesn't say she needs V8 to work, so either they forgot to move the eyebrow uv's to O8 or they have stuffed up in making her. I've sent in a ticket about them - Olympia 8's eyebrows look like massive slugs on her face. 

The lipstick is very defined on the lips - it doens't seem to blend naturally like O7's. 

Her skin....what can I say about her skin? Other than...ugh. She looks orange. It doesn't look natural at all. I'm really curious what lighting her promos used, because she's orange in my lighting. 

Her face is bland. It seems to have no...definition at all. It's like a shapeless blob. 

When you put her next to Olympia 7, it's like putting Victoria 3 next to G3. 

Makeups don't show in preview mode, only in render. Not a deal breaker cos at least they work but it's just a bit of an annoyance when you're setting up a scene and you can't remember which makeup you used. 

Olympia 7 was my all time favourite girl - didn't like her on release, fell madly in love when I rendered her and use her ALL the time. Had really high hopes for Olympia 8, but they have been cruely dashed. LOL. I just don't like the 8 line at all. 

Quick comparison render. Same lights, same hair, same pose, same clothes, same everything. Translucency Medium used on both 7 and 8. 

Click on image to see larger, will open in new window. 

Yep, I knew it. Just getting back online and sure enough, an orange banner for previous owners. I hadn't checked out as I figured that would happen. I did get the 25% but still not going for the Pro Bundle. I've given this some thought all day, and down the rabbit hole again. I thought about the two UV releases, getting those of Victoria 5 and Victoria 6 to work on Genesis 8, just because the facial expressions are SO much better. But that led to - what UVs are actually V5? Am I right that Genesis UVs won't work with Cayman's V5 product?  

All I found for Victoria 5, when selecting it in the dropdown (do NOT use search, that's even worse)  and NOT Genesis, are:
Gemma     Isla     Rayne    Meara    Kostia    Olivia    Lora   Emiko   Edit: Found "Gabi for V5" in my list in the studio, so obviously the figure selection route will not work in the gallery shopping page.) 

And I don't own most of them. So Genesis UVs don't work?  And is there a way to see if some of the Genesis just didn't show up in the store dropdown, that do use Victoria 5?  (A way in the studio? I am NOT going character by character and checking UVs. They (the Victoria 5, and the Genesis)  both say "Base UV" so I am confused) 

Now I am really unhappy.  No orange banner for me at all.  Given the amount of money I have spent, I have to say, I'm really irritated. Especially since I have purchased almost every major character from Genesis up.  Oh well, that just cements the no more buying characters for me.

With my PC coupon and a small amount of store credit I had, I was able to get the base Olympia 8 for only $8.80 so picked her up. I'm ...not impressed, to say the slightest. 

I did comparison renders. Same lights. Same clothing. Same hair. Same pose. Translucency Medium on both. Stopped both renders early as it was just a test, so there is a lot of grain naturally as they didn't complete. But boy. Olympia 8 looks like Victoria 3 next to Olympia 7. Plus due to the error with the eyebrows, she has two massive black slugs on her face. I'm sitting here deciding whether to return her. I'm fairly convinced I will. The difference is incredible, and not in a good way. 

Click ot see larger image. 

Yep, I knew it. Just getting back online and sure enough, an orange banner for previous owners. I hadn't checked out as I figured that would happen. I did get the 25% but still not going for the Pro Bundle. I've given this some thought all day, and down the rabbit hole again. I thought about the two UV releases, getting those of Victoria 5 and Victoria 6 to work on Genesis 8, just because the facial expressions are SO much better. But that led to - what UVs are actually V5? Am I right that Genesis UVs won't work with Cayman's V5 product?  

All I found for Victoria 5, when selecting it in the dropdown (do NOT use search, that's even worse)  and NOT Genesis, are:
Gemma     Isla     Rayne    Meara    Kostia    Olivia    Lora   Emiko   Edit: Found "Gabi for V5" in my list in the studio, so obviously the figure selection route will not work in the gallery shopping page.) 

And I don't own most of them. So Genesis UVs don't work?  And is there a way to see if some of the Genesis just didn't show up in the store dropdown, that do use Victoria 5?  (A way in the studio? I am NOT going character by character and checking UVs. They (the Victoria 5, and the Genesis)  both say "Base UV" so I am confused)