I got confused, because Georgian were regents, I mean Edward started to grow as regent from 1892 and he was more progressive and openminded with art and civil rights for the new midclass and bourgeoise. 

Some years later, at 1915, the spanish king Alphonse XII produced 12 silent pornography films https://www.theguardian.com/film/2004/mar/12/2

At the same time on all Europe from 1901 to 1910 the promotion and marketing of products on sale were shown as high erotic fantasy images of women called Art Noveau, the most famous is the czech artist Alphonse Mucha. I think all Edwardian regency was also a modernist influence.

The Point is the new buildings/streets/roads of Edwardian aren't victorian, we need more representative of the changes of the era, art deco art noveau and modernist influences.

Here is a link of people from London and Paris walking at early 1900s http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2173872/Edwardian-street-style-Astonishing-amateur-images-capture-fashion-women-London-Paris-century-ago.html

Here's my take on Charlotte, I'm glad that I passed on Olympia 8, Josie 8, and Stephanie 8. I'm sure I'll get them in time but they didn't really make me do a double take. Anyway I tweaked her face a bit to give her a softer jawline and rounder face. One thing I've noticed is how rare a soft jawline is in character packs. Even in the reign of Victoria 4 almost all females have a strong angular jawline with a pointy chin. I like that Charlottle can go sweet and soft compare to other bases. Very happy with her.

Hmm, today's promo doesn't suit me since I don't buy starter bundles.

Speaking of starter bundles, can you ask the sales department to flag them as purchased if you already own the corresponding pro bundle?

The starter bundle and it's parts should show as purchased on their respective pages. Also, if I've purchased and try to purchase, trying to add to the cart, takes me to my Product Library.

That's not how I'm seeing it at the store. All starter bundles (eg. Victoria 4.2,5,6,7,8) are not flagged as puchased. Same thing happens to special bundles whose contents I bought individually during sales. I know these products have different SKUs but it would be great if they "disappear" from lists and search results.

Save as shaping preset.  From the popup dialog, unselect the figure and then only select actor -> head.  You may have problems if you have certain full body morphs active.  Like "Victoria 7".  It's better to apply those morphs separately.  E.g.,  "Victoria 7 head" and "Victoria 7 body".

Have a look at this thread that we started on her release. Gogger did the most amazing render using her skin on Victoria 8 base. https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/3006906

I did a totally crappy one further on LOL that has candy mixed in low levels with other characters and using the skin.  

The other really really good dark skin I have is Candy  for G8 - I was REALLY impressed with her. Her skin is fantastic - one of the best i've seen. Her full look is a little too stylized for me - but she works well in smaller doses, but yeah, that skin is what I bought her for. I want more diverse skins on the bases - THAT will be what makes me actually buy into the G8 line. Cos so far, I disllike them all but Monique.

Do you have any renders with candy in another shape? I'd be interested to see what she looks like on a non cartooney body, that skin looks awesome!

One new pack in the store. These will work with Victoria 8/Genesis 8, and there are more videos on their YouTube channel showing more packs coming. They look good!

This is my first attemp ever.  I used:

-    Myrddin Outfit for Genesis 3 Male(s)    
-    Spanish Rose -- Chalet de Sevilla                                
-    FWSA Hannah HD for Victoria 7
-    Hervor

The Surprise

Her father wrote that he was bringing a surprise back from his journey.  She was stunned when he said, "Meet your new Stepmother... and Stepsisters".

Good question. I actually can't think of any explicitly Hispanic G3 character. FWSA Oscar's pretty good. But thank Saiyaness for Benita! Obviously, I'm greedy and I want more!

Yours?

Samanyo. Cathy. Anna. Laura. P3D Caro. P3D Adele. And Ophelia 7 is Latina even if they don't tell you: Just render her for yourself, and you'll see. Or maybe Filipina :)

I thought Sunny was Hispanic. And to me Charlotte actually looks like an Hispanic mix... 

Sunny reminded me of a Thornesque Kim Kardashian; so, Armenia in the ho-ow-ouse! EDIT: Ooops! I was thinking of Izabella.

And I agree: Charlotte & Marieke are Hispanic the moment they say, "Buenos dias!"

I thought one could for the most part make ethnic skins with skin builder pro. No?

Not as convincingly as I had hoped.

It makes me sad that I work in a medium where the human form could quite literally be redefined yet all I see being pumped out is bland Caucasian ladies. Thank god I didn't have to wait any longer for Darius and Monique.

I actually thought today might be the release for Mei Lin 8, so I was quite disappointed. While obviously we can customize our own characters, it would be great to have more diverse "base" characters. How about a slimmer black man like our last US President? How about Southeast Asians? Middle-Easterners? North Africans? Middle and South Americans? Lots of other diverse groups to choose from, as well as diversity within the general "black" or "Asian" group. Kimo and Kalea were quite cool, for example. More of that, please. And would love more fantasy/scifi bundles that aren't just the same variants of vampire, zombie, demon, etc. (e.g., Centaur was also pretty cool).

 

5 minutes before reading this post I was looking at a photo of the Hawaiian queen, Lilioukalani. I find her to be interesting looking and was wishing I could make someone with her look. I am new to Daz so I do not have the knowledge base that you all have. My first impression is that it's lots and lots of pretty, thin, white girls... So thank you for your wish of diversity.

You know, there are lots of white girls in the entire Daz store.  But as far as the Daz Base Characters go, there is a fair amount of diversity.  All you have to do is look down the major character list to find representatives of most ethnicities.  Maybe you'd like to see more ethnic representatives from PAs.  But, the base characters are pretty diverse.  Also, I think that Marika is Latina and Aisling appears to be Eastern European.

 

It's not that there is no diversity, but I out of the first five G8 female releases, do four of them need to be white? And even with G3 bases, most of them were white.

Just finished watching MTV's latest season of Are You the One (not counting the reunion shows). That cast is more or less what I'd like to see reflected in the characters here (well, could use more Asians, but I'm biased).

Well, I suppose you're right about the order of character releases.  I mean, Victoria obviously represents English Caucasian, Stephanie is the All American Girl, Olympia is Greek, Monique is African American, Josie is clearly supposed to be the teen representative and is clearly caucasian.  Lucas and Michael are both straight up white guys.  Darius is the male Afro American.  And now, Charlotte is perhaps, the British Teen to Twenty - but with lots of ethnic addon characters.

Personally, I could care less about the order that the ethnic figures are released in, simply because I usually create my own characters as needed.  And, I have a huge runtime full of every ethnicity for G3.  But, I can see how you might want to speed things up if you are waiting on a particular ethnic character.  

Just by tradition, I will always expect Victoria to be the first release of any new generation - along with Michael as her counterpart.  I don't think of this as a political statement as much as following a long time tradition.  The original Victoria was the "every woman" base character.  So, it was the mesh object and rigging that was important, not the perceived ethnicity - which could be changed by artists and end users as needed.  Back in the very early Poser days, you didn't have specific races of base character, but rather a set of morph dials that you could alter race features, and then set the skin tone to approximate what you were after.  It's with the advent of "Base Characters" that Daz has opted to make representatives of most general ethnicities.  I don't know how much this has to do with racial equality, or simply, marketing to cover a more diverse user group.  For whatever reason, I think Daz does a pretty good job of making sure there is enough racial variety to cover the broad ranges.

If I have any slight criticism of the base characters, it's usually that I find them a bit bland and without a lot of personality.  This is silly on my part, though.  Because the base character should probably be designed for expandibility and adaptation rather than uniqueness.

Sorry, that was the long way round....  I do see your point.  I can't say I think it's really a big deal, since more base characters will soon follow...I'm guessing Mei Lin will be up soon...or Aiko.  Charlotte was a surprise.  But hey, I always look forward to the Asian characters as well. :)

BTW...Who do you think among the Gen3 characters best represented the Hispanic races?  

 

Good question. I actually can't think of any explicitly Hispanic G3 character. FWSA Oscar's pretty good. But thank Saiyaness for Benita! Obviously, I'm greedy and I want more!

Yours?

I thought Sunny was Hispanic. And to me Charlotte actually looks like an Hispanic mix... 

Outré Limits said:

She's a welcome addition to Genesis 8.. I only hope we see an alt guy companion/counterpart. I'm planning to get her after I get paid again, to create an homage to ladies of the 80s pop.

She's not any one thing. She's whatever you render her as being. Never judge a base figure by what happens to be included with the 'Starter'/'Pro' bundles, as those are just things the marketing department has thrown in - and most people won't be able to afford those premium bundles.

In regards to what 'Sakura' could be, would have thought past experience would teach us not to even try predicting what a new character could be like, since guesses are always wrong. :)

As for ethnicities, there are usually enough existing characters to simply transfer other skins over. What I lament is how most characters tend to look very similar. This one, for instance, basically feels like Victoria with a rounder face. She actually resembles a lot of Thorne's characters, in so far as she has certain visual similarities to teenagers, but is essentially in an adult body (which is probably why adding youth morphs suits her so well). What I'd like is to see are more truly unique looks. Clea DuVall, Shawnee Smith, Linda Hamilton, etcetera... Examples of actresses who could never be confused for looking like anyone else and possess their own recognised visual 'brand' as a result. The last time I think we had someone with strikingly unique looks was probably either Ivan or George (outside of different ethnicities and stylised cartoon aesthetics).

BTW...If you want a really well done Chinese looking model, check out Raiya's Chiyo...very nicely done.  She is much better looking in person than in her promos.   :)

https://www.daz3d.com/chiyo-for-victoria-7

 

Agree! I have her.

Sent you a PM.

It makes me sad that I work in a medium where the human form could quite literally be redefined yet all I see being pumped out is bland Caucasian ladies. Thank god I didn't have to wait any longer for Darius and Monique.

I actually thought today might be the release for Mei Lin 8, so I was quite disappointed. While obviously we can customize our own characters, it would be great to have more diverse "base" characters. How about a slimmer black man like our last US President? How about Southeast Asians? Middle-Easterners? North Africans? Middle and South Americans? Lots of other diverse groups to choose from, as well as diversity within the general "black" or "Asian" group. Kimo and Kalea were quite cool, for example. More of that, please. And would love more fantasy/scifi bundles that aren't just the same variants of vampire, zombie, demon, etc. (e.g., Centaur was also pretty cool).

 

5 minutes before reading this post I was looking at a photo of the Hawaiian queen, Lilioukalani. I find her to be interesting looking and was wishing I could make someone with her look. I am new to Daz so I do not have the knowledge base that you all have. My first impression is that it's lots and lots of pretty, thin, white girls... So thank you for your wish of diversity.

You know, there are lots of white girls in the entire Daz store.  But as far as the Daz Base Characters go, there is a fair amount of diversity.  All you have to do is look down the major character list to find representatives of most ethnicities.  Maybe you'd like to see more ethnic representatives from PAs.  But, the base characters are pretty diverse.  Also, I think that Marika is Latina and Aisling appears to be Eastern European.

 

It's not that there is no diversity, but I out of the first five G8 female releases, do four of them need to be white? And even with G3 bases, most of them were white.

Just finished watching MTV's latest season of Are You the One (not counting the reunion shows). That cast is more or less what I'd like to see reflected in the characters here (well, could use more Asians, but I'm biased).

Well, I suppose you're right about the order of character releases.  I mean, Victoria obviously represents English Caucasian, Stephanie is the All American Girl, Olympia is Greek, Monique is African American, Josie is clearly supposed to be the teen representative and is clearly caucasian.  Lucas and Michael are both straight up white guys.  Darius is the male Afro American.  And now, Charlotte is perhaps, the British Teen to Twenty - but with lots of ethnic addon characters.

Personally, I could care less about the order that the ethnic figures are released in, simply because I usually create my own characters as needed.  And, I have a huge runtime full of every ethnicity for G3.  But, I can see how you might want to speed things up if you are waiting on a particular ethnic character.  

Just by tradition, I will always expect Victoria to be the first release of any new generation - along with Michael as her counterpart.  I don't think of this as a political statement as much as following a long time tradition.  The original Victoria was the "every woman" base character.  So, it was the mesh object and rigging that was important, not the perceived ethnicity - which could be changed by artists and end users as needed.  Back in the very early Poser days, you didn't have specific races of base character, but rather a set of morph dials that you could alter race features, and then set the skin tone to approximate what you were after.  It's with the advent of "Base Characters" that Daz has opted to make representatives of most general ethnicities.  I don't know how much this has to do with racial equality, or simply, marketing to cover a more diverse user group.  For whatever reason, I think Daz does a pretty good job of making sure there is enough racial variety to cover the broad ranges.

If I have any slight criticism of the base characters, it's usually that I find them a bit bland and without a lot of personality.  This is silly on my part, though.  Because the base character should probably be designed for expandibility and adaptation rather than uniqueness.

Sorry, that was the long way round....  I do see your point.  I can't say I think it's really a big deal, since more base characters will soon follow...I'm guessing Mei Lin will be up soon...or Aiko.  Charlotte was a surprise.  But hey, I always look forward to the Asian characters as well. :)

BTW...Who do you think among the Gen3 characters best represented the Hispanic races?  

 

Good question. I actually can't think of any explicitly Hispanic G3 character. FWSA Oscar's pretty good. But thank Saiyaness for Benita! Obviously, I'm greedy and I want more!

Yours?

Yeah, Benita is awesome...just not a DO base.  I don't think there really is one for either sex.

Which is really strange, given the number of Hispanic people in the world. A DO base for Hispanic characters is long overdue! 

Well, there are often included addon Latino / Latina characters in the bundles.  Maybe that's why Daz hasn't ever needed to do a Hispanic base character?

It makes me sad that I work in a medium where the human form could quite literally be redefined yet all I see being pumped out is bland Caucasian ladies. Thank god I didn't have to wait any longer for Darius and Monique.

I actually thought today might be the release for Mei Lin 8, so I was quite disappointed. While obviously we can customize our own characters, it would be great to have more diverse "base" characters. How about a slimmer black man like our last US President? How about Southeast Asians? Middle-Easterners? North Africans? Middle and South Americans? Lots of other diverse groups to choose from, as well as diversity within the general "black" or "Asian" group. Kimo and Kalea were quite cool, for example. More of that, please. And would love more fantasy/scifi bundles that aren't just the same variants of vampire, zombie, demon, etc. (e.g., Centaur was also pretty cool).

 

5 minutes before reading this post I was looking at a photo of the Hawaiian queen, Lilioukalani. I find her to be interesting looking and was wishing I could make someone with her look. I am new to Daz so I do not have the knowledge base that you all have. My first impression is that it's lots and lots of pretty, thin, white girls... So thank you for your wish of diversity.

You know, there are lots of white girls in the entire Daz store.  But as far as the Daz Base Characters go, there is a fair amount of diversity.  All you have to do is look down the major character list to find representatives of most ethnicities.  Maybe you'd like to see more ethnic representatives from PAs.  But, the base characters are pretty diverse.  Also, I think that Marika is Latina and Aisling appears to be Eastern European.

 

It's not that there is no diversity, but I out of the first five G8 female releases, do four of them need to be white? And even with G3 bases, most of them were white.

Just finished watching MTV's latest season of Are You the One (not counting the reunion shows). That cast is more or less what I'd like to see reflected in the characters here (well, could use more Asians, but I'm biased).

Well, I suppose you're right about the order of character releases.  I mean, Victoria obviously represents English Caucasian, Stephanie is the All American Girl, Olympia is Greek, Monique is African American, Josie is clearly supposed to be the teen representative and is clearly caucasian.  Lucas and Michael are both straight up white guys.  Darius is the male Afro American.  And now, Charlotte is perhaps, the British Teen to Twenty - but with lots of ethnic addon characters.

Personally, I could care less about the order that the ethnic figures are released in, simply because I usually create my own characters as needed.  And, I have a huge runtime full of every ethnicity for G3.  But, I can see how you might want to speed things up if you are waiting on a particular ethnic character.  

Just by tradition, I will always expect Victoria to be the first release of any new generation - along with Michael as her counterpart.  I don't think of this as a political statement as much as following a long time tradition.  The original Victoria was the "every woman" base character.  So, it was the mesh object and rigging that was important, not the perceived ethnicity - which could be changed by artists and end users as needed.  Back in the very early Poser days, you didn't have specific races of base character, but rather a set of morph dials that you could alter race features, and then set the skin tone to approximate what you were after.  It's with the advent of "Base Characters" that Daz has opted to make representatives of most general ethnicities.  I don't know how much this has to do with racial equality, or simply, marketing to cover a more diverse user group.  For whatever reason, I think Daz does a pretty good job of making sure there is enough racial variety to cover the broad ranges.

If I have any slight criticism of the base characters, it's usually that I find them a bit bland and without a lot of personality.  This is silly on my part, though.  Because the base character should probably be designed for expandibility and adaptation rather than uniqueness.

Sorry, that was the long way round....  I do see your point.  I can't say I think it's really a big deal, since more base characters will soon follow...I'm guessing Mei Lin will be up soon...or Aiko.  Charlotte was a surprise.  But hey, I always look forward to the Asian characters as well. :)

BTW...Who do you think among the Gen3 characters best represented the Hispanic races?  

 

Good question. I actually can't think of any explicitly Hispanic G3 character. FWSA Oscar's pretty good. But thank Saiyaness for Benita! Obviously, I'm greedy and I want more!

Yours?

Yeah, Benita is awesome...just not a DO base.  I don't think there really is one for either sex.

Which is really strange, given the number of Hispanic people in the world. A DO base for Hispanic characters is long overdue! 

It makes me sad that I work in a medium where the human form could quite literally be redefined yet all I see being pumped out is bland Caucasian ladies. Thank god I didn't have to wait any longer for Darius and Monique.

I actually thought today might be the release for Mei Lin 8, so I was quite disappointed. While obviously we can customize our own characters, it would be great to have more diverse "base" characters. How about a slimmer black man like our last US President? How about Southeast Asians? Middle-Easterners? North Africans? Middle and South Americans? Lots of other diverse groups to choose from, as well as diversity within the general "black" or "Asian" group. Kimo and Kalea were quite cool, for example. More of that, please. And would love more fantasy/scifi bundles that aren't just the same variants of vampire, zombie, demon, etc. (e.g., Centaur was also pretty cool).

 

5 minutes before reading this post I was looking at a photo of the Hawaiian queen, Lilioukalani. I find her to be interesting looking and was wishing I could make someone with her look. I am new to Daz so I do not have the knowledge base that you all have. My first impression is that it's lots and lots of pretty, thin, white girls... So thank you for your wish of diversity.

You know, there are lots of white girls in the entire Daz store.  But as far as the Daz Base Characters go, there is a fair amount of diversity.  All you have to do is look down the major character list to find representatives of most ethnicities.  Maybe you'd like to see more ethnic representatives from PAs.  But, the base characters are pretty diverse.  Also, I think that Marika is Latina and Aisling appears to be Eastern European.

 

It's not that there is no diversity, but I out of the first five G8 female releases, do four of them need to be white? And even with G3 bases, most of them were white.

Just finished watching MTV's latest season of Are You the One (not counting the reunion shows). That cast is more or less what I'd like to see reflected in the characters here (well, could use more Asians, but I'm biased).

Well, I suppose you're right about the order of character releases.  I mean, Victoria obviously represents English Caucasian, Stephanie is the All American Girl, Olympia is Greek, Monique is African American, Josie is clearly supposed to be the teen representative and is clearly caucasian.  Lucas and Michael are both straight up white guys.  Darius is the male Afro American.  And now, Charlotte is perhaps, the British Teen to Twenty - but with lots of ethnic addon characters.

Personally, I could care less about the order that the ethnic figures are released in, simply because I usually create my own characters as needed.  And, I have a huge runtime full of every ethnicity for G3.  But, I can see how you might want to speed things up if you are waiting on a particular ethnic character.  

Just by tradition, I will always expect Victoria to be the first release of any new generation - along with Michael as her counterpart.  I don't think of this as a political statement as much as following a long time tradition.  The original Victoria was the "every woman" base character.  So, it was the mesh object and rigging that was important, not the perceived ethnicity - which could be changed by artists and end users as needed.  Back in the very early Poser days, you didn't have specific races of base character, but rather a set of morph dials that you could alter race features, and then set the skin tone to approximate what you were after.  It's with the advent of "Base Characters" that Daz has opted to make representatives of most general ethnicities.  I don't know how much this has to do with racial equality, or simply, marketing to cover a more diverse user group.  For whatever reason, I think Daz does a pretty good job of making sure there is enough racial variety to cover the broad ranges.

If I have any slight criticism of the base characters, it's usually that I find them a bit bland and without a lot of personality.  This is silly on my part, though.  Because the base character should probably be designed for expandibility and adaptation rather than uniqueness.

Sorry, that was the long way round....  I do see your point.  I can't say I think it's really a big deal, since more base characters will soon follow...I'm guessing Mei Lin will be up soon...or Aiko.  Charlotte was a surprise.  But hey, I always look forward to the Asian characters as well. :)

BTW...Who do you think among the Gen3 characters best represented the Hispanic races?  

 

Good question. I actually can't think of any explicitly Hispanic G3 character. FWSA Oscar's pretty good. But thank Saiyaness for Benita! Obviously, I'm greedy and I want more!

Yours?

Yeah, Benita is awesome...just not a DO base.  I don't think there really is one for either sex.

BTW...If you want a really well done Chinese looking model, check out Raiya's Chiyo...very nicely done.  She is much better looking in person than in her promos.   :)

https://www.daz3d.com/chiyo-for-victoria-7

 

Agree! I have her.

BTW...If you want a really well done Chinese looking model, check out Raiya's Chiyo...very nicely done.  She is much better looking in person than in her promos.   :)

https://www.daz3d.com/chiyo-for-victoria-7

It makes me sad that I work in a medium where the human form could quite literally be redefined yet all I see being pumped out is bland Caucasian ladies. Thank god I didn't have to wait any longer for Darius and Monique.

I actually thought today might be the release for Mei Lin 8, so I was quite disappointed. While obviously we can customize our own characters, it would be great to have more diverse "base" characters. How about a slimmer black man like our last US President? How about Southeast Asians? Middle-Easterners? North Africans? Middle and South Americans? Lots of other diverse groups to choose from, as well as diversity within the general "black" or "Asian" group. Kimo and Kalea were quite cool, for example. More of that, please. And would love more fantasy/scifi bundles that aren't just the same variants of vampire, zombie, demon, etc. (e.g., Centaur was also pretty cool).

 

5 minutes before reading this post I was looking at a photo of the Hawaiian queen, Lilioukalani. I find her to be interesting looking and was wishing I could make someone with her look. I am new to Daz so I do not have the knowledge base that you all have. My first impression is that it's lots and lots of pretty, thin, white girls... So thank you for your wish of diversity.

You know, there are lots of white girls in the entire Daz store.  But as far as the Daz Base Characters go, there is a fair amount of diversity.  All you have to do is look down the major character list to find representatives of most ethnicities.  Maybe you'd like to see more ethnic representatives from PAs.  But, the base characters are pretty diverse.  Also, I think that Marika is Latina and Aisling appears to be Eastern European.

 

It's not that there is no diversity, but I out of the first five G8 female releases, do four of them need to be white? And even with G3 bases, most of them were white.

Just finished watching MTV's latest season of Are You the One (not counting the reunion shows). That cast is more or less what I'd like to see reflected in the characters here (well, could use more Asians, but I'm biased).

Well, I suppose you're right about the order of character releases.  I mean, Victoria obviously represents English Caucasian, Stephanie is the All American Girl, Olympia is Greek, Monique is African American, Josie is clearly supposed to be the teen representative and is clearly caucasian.  Lucas and Michael are both straight up white guys.  Darius is the male Afro American.  And now, Charlotte is perhaps, the British Teen to Twenty - but with lots of ethnic addon characters.

Personally, I could care less about the order that the ethnic figures are released in, simply because I usually create my own characters as needed.  And, I have a huge runtime full of every ethnicity for G3.  But, I can see how you might want to speed things up if you are waiting on a particular ethnic character.  

Just by tradition, I will always expect Victoria to be the first release of any new generation - along with Michael as her counterpart.  I don't think of this as a political statement as much as following a long time tradition.  The original Victoria was the "every woman" base character.  So, it was the mesh object and rigging that was important, not the perceived ethnicity - which could be changed by artists and end users as needed.  Back in the very early Poser days, you didn't have specific races of base character, but rather a set of morph dials that you could alter race features, and then set the skin tone to approximate what you were after.  It's with the advent of "Base Characters" that Daz has opted to make representatives of most general ethnicities.  I don't know how much this has to do with racial equality, or simply, marketing to cover a more diverse user group.  For whatever reason, I think Daz does a pretty good job of making sure there is enough racial variety to cover the broad ranges.

If I have any slight criticism of the base characters, it's usually that I find them a bit bland and without a lot of personality.  This is silly on my part, though.  Because the base character should probably be designed for expandibility and adaptation rather than uniqueness.

Sorry, that was the long way round....  I do see your point.  I can't say I think it's really a big deal, since more base characters will soon follow...I'm guessing Mei Lin will be up soon...or Aiko.  Charlotte was a surprise.  But hey, I always look forward to the Asian characters as well. :)

BTW...Who do you think among the Gen3 characters best represented the Hispanic races?  

 

Good question. I actually can't think of any explicitly Hispanic G3 character. FWSA Oscar's pretty good. But thank Saiyaness for Benita! Obviously, I'm greedy and I want more!

Yours?

It makes me sad that I work in a medium where the human form could quite literally be redefined yet all I see being pumped out is bland Caucasian ladies. Thank god I didn't have to wait any longer for Darius and Monique.

I actually thought today might be the release for Mei Lin 8, so I was quite disappointed. While obviously we can customize our own characters, it would be great to have more diverse "base" characters. How about a slimmer black man like our last US President? How about Southeast Asians? Middle-Easterners? North Africans? Middle and South Americans? Lots of other diverse groups to choose from, as well as diversity within the general "black" or "Asian" group. Kimo and Kalea were quite cool, for example. More of that, please. And would love more fantasy/scifi bundles that aren't just the same variants of vampire, zombie, demon, etc. (e.g., Centaur was also pretty cool).

 

5 minutes before reading this post I was looking at a photo of the Hawaiian queen, Lilioukalani. I find her to be interesting looking and was wishing I could make someone with her look. I am new to Daz so I do not have the knowledge base that you all have. My first impression is that it's lots and lots of pretty, thin, white girls... So thank you for your wish of diversity.

You know, there are lots of white girls in the entire Daz store.  But as far as the Daz Base Characters go, there is a fair amount of diversity.  All you have to do is look down the major character list to find representatives of most ethnicities.  Maybe you'd like to see more ethnic representatives from PAs.  But, the base characters are pretty diverse.  Also, I think that Marika is Latina and Aisling appears to be Eastern European.

 

It's not that there is no diversity, but I out of the first five G8 female releases, do four of them need to be white? And even with G3 bases, most of them were white.

Just finished watching MTV's latest season of Are You the One (not counting the reunion shows). That cast is more or less what I'd like to see reflected in the characters here (well, could use more Asians, but I'm biased).

Well, I suppose you're right about the order of character releases.  I mean, Victoria obviously represents English Caucasian, Stephanie is the All American Girl, Olympia is Greek, Monique is African American, Josie is clearly supposed to be the teen representative and is clearly caucasian.  Lucas and Michael are both straight up white guys.  Darius is the male Afro American.  And now, Charlotte is perhaps, the British Teen to Twenty - but with lots of ethnic addon characters.

Personally, I could care less about the order that the ethnic figures are released in, simply because I usually create my own characters as needed.  And, I have a huge runtime full of every ethnicity for G3.  But, I can see how you might want to speed things up if you are waiting on a particular ethnic character.  

Just by tradition, I will always expect Victoria to be the first release of any new generation - along with Michael as her counterpart.  I don't think of this as a political statement as much as following a long time tradition.  The original Victoria was the "every woman" base character.  So, it was the mesh object and rigging that was important, not the perceived ethnicity - which could be changed by artists and end users as needed.  Back in the very early Poser days, you didn't have specific races of base character, but rather a set of morph dials that you could alter race features, and then set the skin tone to approximate what you were after.  It's with the advent of "Base Characters" that Daz has opted to make representatives of most general ethnicities.  I don't know how much this has to do with racial equality, or simply, marketing to cover a more diverse user group.  For whatever reason, I think Daz does a pretty good job of making sure there is enough racial variety to cover the broad ranges.

If I have any slight criticism of the base characters, it's usually that I find them a bit bland and without a lot of personality.  This is silly on my part, though.  Because the base character should probably be designed for expandibility and adaptation rather than uniqueness.

Sorry, that was the long way round....  I do see your point.  I can't say I think it's really a big deal, since more base characters will soon follow...I'm guessing Mei Lin will be up soon...or Aiko.  Charlotte was a surprise.  But hey, I always look forward to the Asian characters as well. :)

BTW...Who do you think among the Gen3 characters best represented the Hispanic races?  

Yes, most Victoria 4 content will be Poser format - and may not be set up for Samrt Content. If you look at the Installed tab of Install Manager items with metadata (for Smart Content etc.) will have a tick next to them.

I think shes' beautiful! 

(Render stopped at 85% because I'm impatient. lol)

Looks great.  I like the toned down, less caricature look of her.  Nice expression, too.

She's my new favorite Official Daz Original Genesis 8 Female! As much as I like Victoria 8, I think I like Charlotte 8 even more!