w_r_brook_ec9f3e956e said:

Ok, so the distorted body shape appears to be what happens by default if you run the same script multiple times on the same character, which I did in exploring the material issue I had assumed that as I didn't hit 'save' the morphs would be removed, but not only are they not removed, they seem to 'multiply' so that every time the script is re-run against the identical same character, the body shape becomes more and more extreme. That's pretty odd behaviour...

Update: cleared out the Miley morphs and started again. The reason for this problem appears to be that this character has a Miley Head and Miley Body morph. When you do the conversion, both the Miley Body and Miley Head morph contain the entire morph (for both body and head) so that by default, when the Miley CHARACTER morph is set to 100%, it applies both the head and body morphs and you essentially get the character morph applied twice over, resulting in extreme distortions. 

w_r_brook_ec9f3e956e said:

Looks like there are some problems withe material stuff. I'm trying to convert MSO Miley G8F and it comes up with some errors, which are kinda weird, claiming not to be able to find files which are clearly present for the material skin. They relate to the eyes and mouth. I get no materials copied. Also, the body shape seems pretty weird. I'm running on macos Ventura. Have I done something stupid here?

For the installation, is the file in the location?  How did you install?

For the other question, in the manual it states:

The Converted Character’s Body is wrinkled.  Because of the way that morphs must be converted, a morph that on Genesis 8 appears to only touch a small part of the head can affect the whole body on Genesis 9. You need to show Currently Used parameters to show all morphs on the converted character.  Then, one by one, dial in the morphs to find the offending morph(s).  Once you find them, delete the morphs from your HD (click the Gear icon, Parameter Settings, and look at File Path for the asset to figure out where the morph is and what it is called).  You should also resave the character with the offending morph(s) dialed out (set to 0).

Eboshijaana said:

RiverSoftArt said:

Eboshijaana said:

RiverSoftArt said:

Eboshijaana said:

Something I've been struggling with; If you have two (or more) figures in the scene that need simulation, how does one do that? I've tried using the script separately on both, but one always ends up with a messed up timeline.

How do you mean messed up timeline?  I would hide the first character, simulate and freeze the results on the second character, hide the second character, and show, simulate and freeze the results on the first character.

It is hard to explain, but basically, instead of the script making the character's morphs default to 0 in the timeline spot 0, it adds the second character's zero morphs in the middle of the simulation.
As you can see, the second figure starts with all the morphs active, then turns to default and THEN the morph change happens.
The second character's dforce helper script is activated at the end of the timeline,too.

I am still not entirely sure but I will try and recreate the issue.  In the meantime, I think you could always simulate one character in a different scene and pull it in as a scene subset (frozen).  So you only execute dForce Assistant on one character/scene.

To help you recreate it, here is my workflow;
1. After using dForce helper, bring the timeline to frame 0

2. Simulate the character one's clothing/fur.

3. Once character one's simulation has run, freeze the dforce parts
4. Hide the first character
5. Use the dforce helper script on the second character

6. Put the timeline once more on frame 0.
7. Simulate the second character.

Thanks for the steps.

Finally found an acceptable fix. After texturing it's almost unnoticeable.

- In Transfer Utility, I've used the dress loose template + distance tolerance at 0.11. The big edge deformation is gone.

What do you want to use it for?

I would take the objects into a modeller and create a morph.

You could use Mesh Grabber for a quick solution, but it is more limited in use.

And of course there need to be enough mesh geometry to make the morph.

James said:

what if I only want to make like a papper get  teared halfway....?

Yes, almost the same, just manipulate the relevant part (to be torn), plus Mesh Grabber to bend it or even go for rigging it... But still, it's much better to use modeling / sculpting software to make the morph...

gfdamron1 said:

Could you explain the Transfer Utility a bit, please? Is it an additonal product or is it already in DAZ?

Yes, a tool in DS... I roughly made an example as below.  And yea, using dFormer is also an option but it'll take some time for making complex undressed shapes, as you have to tweak the influence weight area and move the dFormer from time to time, or add multiple dformers. So it's all up to you to go for a proper way you can well handle...

James said:

the wrinkles that I envision are between the brows, though not on the forehead..

I'm going to take on this "challenge". No promises (!), as I mentioned this hack already took me some time, but I see opportunities for me to learn new stuff. ... no to mention that I found the most awesome Z brush to make this work (SO much pun intended!). I'll get back at most upcoming Monday but please: don't get your hopes up and don't expect results. But I am going to give this a solid attempt.

Secret little bird told me I can probably even share morph files as an attachment here so... yah ;)

Could you explain the Transfer Utility a bit, please? Is it an additonal product or is it already in DAZ?

Holy frack!!!! love me some old school BSG and Buck Rodgers!!!! Need a Wilma Deering morph for that Buck Rodgers outfit!!

Usually you may try:
1. to use some products with undressed morphs like above mentioned;
2. to make undressed morphs by yourself with modeling / sculpting software, blender, ZBrush, etc. and import back to the garment;
3. or another trick is: you seek the garment (A) (having some undressed morphs) that is similar to the one (B) you use, and use Transfer Utility to transfer the undressed morph targets from (A) to (B) and finetune it with blender / ZB. In most case, it might be faster... even without tweaking sometimes denpending on the garments...

You may try to use some expression morphs from Daz.com, for instance: Compression HD + Brow Squeeze, uncheck Use Limits and increase the values a litttle bit. Then, use GoZ or blender etc. to make some crease in between the inner brows then import as a delta morph, so as to make some subtle change. (I made one with blender...) You even can mix the expression with other brows related morphs and create a unique single dial.

PS: Normally we won't separately bake normal or displacement maps for expressions, but you can do it if you'd like...

Now, important disclaimer: I'm not a professional sculpter but rather a (very) enthusiastic artist.

Having that out of the way: @Felis : I'm not too sure I agree with your base geometry comment, but I cannot rule out the option that I'm overlooking something.

As mentioned I'm not an avid sculpter (getting better though) and this morph itself took me a while to "perfect" (and it's still quite the hack) but if you look at the result... I think that if I shorten it (maybe break it up in 2 sets?), maybe increase the Z intensity just a little bit more?... then this should be doable.  ... or so I believe.

For the record: yes, I somewhat "cheated" by sub-dividing the mesh in ZBrush and you shouldn't focus on that wrt the geometry, but still, there is room to wrinkle parts of the forehead.   ... or so I think.

Richard Haseltine said:

GoZ doesn't need the path to ZBrush, it uses an intermediate location (in the Public/shared user profile) which has the transfer files and the settings needed - this is how the ZBrush developers set it to work. If it were a missing path then there would be an alert to say so, which there isn't (presumably) here.

Thanks for the feedback and yups: I stand corrected on this. I figured that DIM would provide content based on those settings, but now that I checked my settings some more...  sure enough: "Photoshop 3D Bridge for Daz Studio" (I forgot that I hid this), and yah: I don't have Photoshop. Only Photoshop Elements, but that's not specified in DIM :)

ShelLuser said:

I'm not 100% sure if this applies but GoZ isn't generally supported, in some cases it's only supported on Windows and not Mac. I base this on this Pixologic knowledge base article. I don't know if this applies here (I'm on Windows myself) 

Some possible causes: did you point DIM to your ZBrush installation?  Also: did you enable the required application tags? I'd assume that in this case: 'software' and 'plugin' are relevant, as well as your platform type but it probably set that automatically. To check these settings open your advanced settings and check the 'Downloads' and 'Applications' tabs accordingly.

Hope this can help!

GoZ doesn't need the path to ZBrush, it uses an intermediate location (in the Public/shared user profile) which has the transfer files and the settings needed - this is how the ZBrush developers set it to work. If it were a missing path then there would be an alert to say so, which there isn't (presumably) here.

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Catherine3678ab said:

Yes, and there's also another method which is shown in a video on YouTube

https://youtu.be/XuQwnTd4Fok

I have tried this some months ago, but it turned to a nightmare. 
The shape of G9 is very different from G8F, the figure is shorter and smaller and so when I clean the morph 
from the head, I get a really long giraffe neck, it's hillarius! 

RiverSoftArt said:

Eboshijaana said:

RiverSoftArt said:

Eboshijaana said:

RiverSoftArt said:

Eboshijaana said:

Yess, I'm eager to use this ^^

Thank you!  I hope you will like it.  It was the most difficult script we have done for Daz Studio. 

I assume eyes and teeth are a no-go for transfer.

No, you can transfer.  It is finicky with extreme eyes but with the material suit, you are able to do it

Excuse me, I meant the morphs for eyes and teeth, not the materials.

That is what I meant: the morphs.  However, I think it is a combination of the mat suit and the CC that makes it work.  You would have to ask @Sickleyield as quite frankly I don't understand all of her wizardly; I just script it. 

Damn, gotta ask then O.O

RiverSoftArt said:

Eboshijaana said:

RiverSoftArt said:

Eboshijaana said:

Something I've been struggling with; If you have two (or more) figures in the scene that need simulation, how does one do that? I've tried using the script separately on both, but one always ends up with a messed up timeline.

How do you mean messed up timeline?  I would hide the first character, simulate and freeze the results on the second character, hide the second character, and show, simulate and freeze the results on the first character.

It is hard to explain, but basically, instead of the script making the character's morphs default to 0 in the timeline spot 0, it adds the second character's zero morphs in the middle of the simulation.
As you can see, the second figure starts with all the morphs active, then turns to default and THEN the morph change happens.
The second character's dforce helper script is activated at the end of the timeline,too.

I am still not entirely sure but I will try and recreate the issue.  In the meantime, I think you could always simulate one character in a different scene and pull it in as a scene subset (frozen).  So you only execute dForce Assistant on one character/scene.

To help you recreate it, here is my workflow;
1. After using dForce helper, bring the timeline to frame 0

2. Simulate the character one's clothing/fur.

3. Once character one's simulation has run, freeze the dforce parts
4. Hide the first character
5. Use the dforce helper script on the second character

6. Put the timeline once more on frame 0.
7. Simulate the second character.

arthenics said:

re-import a delta?

Yea, like this:

PS: For this case, re-importing the original obj file to overwrite bs morph will be fine.