Hi Laslo,

  I'm using Headshop 13.

Katherine,

it would be helpful to identify the HeadShop version you need advice with (i.e: HeadShopPRO 2023, HeadShopLT 2023, etc.).

For one, hair is adjustable sizable, etc - pls. watch how to video at 9:00 https://youtu.be/L-wZLeR2l7o and it also exports to User/Public/Documents/My DAZ 3D Library/Runtime/FaceShop/fs

I can also tell you that HeadShopPRO 2023 does not work with Genesis 8.1, only Genesis 3, 8, 9.

Also, tech support is available at [email protected], as you have sent me an email 2 days ago (and I responded).

Laslo

HI,

    I haven't had any luck with placing hair in Headshop.  I can drag a hair style over, but I can't adjust it.   And it doesn't save with the figure.

Also, I get the following sequence of error messages when I try to use Genesis 8.1 figures:

No surface configuration has been recorded for this figure. Surface selection will need to be applied manually.

Unhandled exception has occurred in your application I you click Continue, the application will ignore this error and attempt to continue. If you click Quit, the application will close immediately.

Value cannont be null

Parameter name: image

Headshop closed because it could not create the necessary files.

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It works with Genesis 3 and 8.0

bueller1998_df4ca4b697 said:

So I bought the new Headshop 2023 LT, and have had problems installing it.. I contiue to get an error when I install it to my directory where my other plugins are.  The same thing is happening on my backu computer that has a different path, which I followed. The instructions say you must install to the directory where your plugins ae and the way you figure that out is to go to the menu where you find About Plugins and it shows the path.

Since I don't see any other posts with others having this problem, I assume I am doing something wrong. Can anyone help me out on the install?

Easy. According to your screenshot, you are trying to install HeadShop to DAZ 3D/Applications/64-bit/DAZ 3d/DAZStudio4/plugin. That is NOT what the instructions say. The correct location in your case is is DAZ 3D/Applications/64-bit/DAZ 3d.

I also suggest you notice in the README that tech support is available at [email protected].

Best, Laslo

So I bought the new Headshop 2023 LT, and have had problems installing it.. I contiue to get an error when I install it to my directory where my other plugins are.  The same thing is happening on my backu computer that has a different path, which I followed. The instructions say you must install to the directory where your plugins ae and the way you figure that out is to go to the menu where you find About Plugins and it shows the path.

Since I don't see any other posts with others having this problem, I assume I am doing something wrong. Can anyone help me out on the install?

Not to mention that HeadShop Pro 2023 supports Genesis 9

Okay, I think I've answered my own question from the answers in this thread:  https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/556741/march-19-first-ever-headshoppro-at-daz-commercial  The answer appears to be "No." as the main artwork shown for Headshop Pro has a note that it already includes it's own sets of libraries "a $100 value," whereas the version of the same image used in the store lacks that caption.       

[Headshop 14 does not exist... is it same as Headshop Pro?]...and, specifically, will the nose, teeth and mouth morph add-ons that are labeled as requiring either Headshop 14 and Headshop OneClick2022 (also currently non existant in the DAZ store) work with Headshop Pro?    

FirstBastion said:

And to make the actual avatar you need to do it manually or try to use one of the automatic plugins that may or may not work well enough.

 

https://www.daz3d.com/easy-character-creation-with-facegen

 

https://www.daz3d.com/headshop-13-genesis-8

 

 

And to make the actual avatar you need to do it manually or try to use one of the automatic plugins that may or may not work well enough.

https://www.daz3d.com/easy-character-creation-with-facegen

https://www.daz3d.com/headshop-13-genesis-8

Catherine3678ab said:

info_b3470fa520 said:

Catherine3678ab said:

For those considering trying out HeadShop any number, it is expected that the installation of Daz Studio will be at some default location - not a user defined location. HeadShop2023 does not work on W11Pro with my D/S being at a user defined location.

Catherine, as long as you know where your DAZ Studio is located (hint; anywhere, but inside a folder that also contains "DAZStudio4" folder, which contains Studio and plugins), you can install HeadShopPRO 2023 to that folder. Unlike you, some users really don't know where they installed their working DAZ Studio or have multiple copies of DAZ Studio installed at various locations. In my experience 99.9% of the install issues are caused by this. Thanks for clarifying this.

Laslo

Sadly no Laslo, we've been through all this. It does not work over here. As best I can determine, something is either hardwired in HS "or" in W11Pro which prevents HS from functioning.

Just a thought, could be a request, for to make HS into a separate program like FaceGen is; so then it would not matter where one installed it either. FaceGen makes and saves the morphs, we then open D/S, load the figure and dial in the morphs. FaceGen does have to be told where the content folder is of course, and that is done by the user - it doesn't

presume it is located at some mysterious location.

Catherine, I know for a fact that you're mistaken. As you recall, I wanted to show you this, but unfortunately you declined tech support, whether by skype or telephone.

info_b3470fa520 said:

Catherine3678ab said:

For those considering trying out HeadShop any number, it is expected that the installation of Daz Studio will be at some default location - not a user defined location. HeadShop2023 does not work on W11Pro with my D/S being at a user defined location.

Catherine, as long as you know where your DAZ Studio is located (hint; anywhere, but inside a folder that also contains "DAZStudio4" folder, which contains Studio and plugins), you can install HeadShopPRO 2023 to that folder. Unlike you, some users really don't know where they installed their working DAZ Studio or have multiple copies of DAZ Studio installed at various locations. In my experience 99.9% of the install issues are caused by this. Thanks for clarifying this.

Laslo

Sadly no Laslo, we've been through all this. It does not work over here. As best I can determine, something is either hardwired in HS "or" in W11Pro which prevents HS from functioning.

Just a thought, could be a request, for to make HS into a separate program like FaceGen is; so then it would not matter where one installed it either. FaceGen makes and saves the morphs, we then open D/S, load the figure and dial in the morphs. FaceGen does have to be told where the content folder is of course, and that is done by the user - it doesn't presume it is located at some mysterious location.

Is it possible that HeadShop cannot handle a German Windows version?

Catherine3678ab said:

For those considering trying out HeadShop any number, it is expected that the installation of Daz Studio will be at some default location - not a user defined location. HeadShop2023 does not work on W11Pro with my D/S being at a user defined location.

Catherine, as long as you know where your DAZ Studio is located (hint; anywhere, but inside a folder that also contains "DAZStudio4" folder, which contains Studio and plugins), you can install HeadShopPRO 2023 to that folder. Unlike you, some users really don't know where they installed their working DAZ Studio or have multiple copies of DAZ Studio installed at various locations. In my experience 99.9% of the install issues are caused by this. Thanks for clarifying this.

Laslo

For those considering trying out HeadShop any number, it is expected that the installation of Daz Studio will be at some default location - not a user defined location. HeadShop2023 does not work on W11Pro with my D/S being at a user defined location.

info_b3470fa520 said:

bnstone_stone said:

I'm a FaceGen, FaceXfer kinda guy, but I'm about to purchase HS Pro. I favor FG, but I get several images and create two or three versions of a model, then apply at reduced percentages to achieve a decent result. I have HS 13 but found it to be very user unfriendly and a bit of a pain to get good results. Still, I'm game to try again after reading other comments here. Just would have been nice to get a better discount for being a prior purchaser (HS13 is not my first try at it).

UPDATE: so I followed the instalation instructions and keep getting this error: no .jason config files found!

Why is this program so hard to install all the time?

Any ideas what to do here? I sent an email to support at Abalon

We answered your support email and also ready to have a skype call/screen share which works best. The reason why HeadShop installation are different hinges with the fact that HeadShop is a DAZ Studio plugin and it needs to be installed similar/same place as the to other DAZ plugins. Since FaceGen is not a plugin and does not work inside DAZ Studio, it can be installed any which way.

We provided tons of info on how to install HeadShop which has its own installer. There's a README step-by-step in the installer, there's an install video https://youtu.be/QACNeyStmT0  and there are detail instructions in the 80-page manual: https://printahead.net/wp-content/uploads/HeadShopPRO-2023.pdf.

While 99% of our users follow these guides, there some that do not take time to read instructions.

So no reason to be insulting about reading the instructions there, chap. I did exstensive reading and installing of this program, yet again am having issue with it and G8/G8.1. Have not tried G9 but G3 does work fine.

With that said, and the uncalled for insult about following instructions, the program appears to have been installed correctly.  I have check my emails daily without any response, so let's try sending another email so maybe I can solve the G8 issues and feel my money was well spent here, shall we?

bnstone_stone said:

I'm a FaceGen, FaceXfer kinda guy, but I'm about to purchase HS Pro. I favor FG, but I get several images and create two or three versions of a model, then apply at reduced percentages to achieve a decent result. I have HS 13 but found it to be very user unfriendly and a bit of a pain to get good results. Still, I'm game to try again after reading other comments here. Just would have been nice to get a better discount for being a prior purchaser (HS13 is not my first try at it).

UPDATE: so I followed the instalation instructions and keep getting this error: no .jason config files found!

Why is this program so hard to install all the time?

Any ideas what to do here? I sent an email to support at Abalon

We answered your support email and also ready to have a skype call/screen share which works best. The reason why HeadShop installation are different hinges with the fact that HeadShop is a DAZ Studio plugin and it needs to be installed similar/same place as the to other DAZ plugins. Since FaceGen is not a plugin and does not work inside DAZ Studio, it can be installed any which way.

We provided tons of info on how to install HeadShop which has its own installer. There's a README step-by-step in the installer, there's an install video https://youtu.be/QACNeyStmT0  and there are detail instructions in the 80-page manual: https://printahead.net/wp-content/uploads/HeadShopPRO-2023.pdf.

While 99% of our users follow these guides, there some that do not take time to read instructions.

Facegen Artist is the version of FG that works with Genesis. It has been updated recently as well. This is noteworthy because Daz Face Transfer has NEVER been updated in its entire existence. So while FG is very old, it is indeed still getting support all these years later. You cannot say the same about Face Transfer. As for Head Shop, it always has promise but I have been let down too many times by it. To its credit, HeadShop 2023 is the only one that supports Genesis 9. At some point Facegen probably will. Considering that Face Transfer has never been updated at all, I am very doubtful that it will ever support Genesis 9. However, just looking at the tutorial for HS2023, it looks like the app struggles to create proper morphs for the G9 eyes and teeth. I have a feeling that any face generator will have a big problem with G9.

The new FG has automatic dot placement like the others do, so now FG is more user friendly. You can still manually place dots if you wish, too, so it still has that freedom. Another thing I noticed is that the newest FG appears to do a better job blending the face into the texture than it did before. So if you have not updated Facegen in a while, you should do so. The latest update just dropped days ago.

Somebody asked about the cut off point of the photo blend. This is where using a side profile photo helps.

They all still have their issues. The head shapes can be really comical looking. If you are looking for a bunch of random background characters, I would use Face Randomizer and combine it with textures from Facegen. At a distance, FG characters can look pretty convincing. You can create unlimited randomized faces from an AI Art Generator to use in Facegen. You can easily adjust the attributes so the AI faces are bald and not smiling, which removes the biggest issues these apps have.

HeadShop has been supporting photo-to-3D conversions for DAZ figures since 2007. We have continuously updated our product to keep up with the development of new DAZ features and figures. This is one of the times when DAZ made major changes in Genesis 9. adding great new capabilities for the new figure. HeadShopPRO stepped up to the challenge to support Genesis 9. The result is HeadShopPRO 2023.

HeadShopPRO 2023 is the latest version of the HeadShop family, replacing HeadShopPRO, with some important additions.

• HeadShopPRO 2023 fully supports the new Genesis 9 figure(s). Genesis 9 is a huge milestone for DAZ, as it dramatically increases the flexibility and realism of the figure. Unfortunately this also means that it is NOT compatible with earlier models (15% smaller, separate “Eyes” and “Mouth”, different head-shape that includes neck, etc.
• HeadShopPRO now also includes some new 3D mesh libraries that enables users to create 3D printable busts, either monochrome or full-color sandstone statues.

In addition

• We further improved our “AutoSculpt” libraries. Most 3D heads lack realism if they ignore the unique “topography” of each head, such as different shapes of noses, chins, creases and so on. We developed over 120 shapes with sliders to help users individually change the shapes one-by-one or mix-and-match, which is a different way than competing approaches by others, because it works like a police “sketch artist”, basing portrait on the description of individual elements (-how was the lip – narrow, fleshy, straight, zig-zag) and similar.
• We also feature retouch tools in the “Color” tab in case there are imperfections in the texture or leftovers from hair or other artifacts.
• HeadShop is NOT installing with DAZ Central or Install Manager but comes with its own installation. Please follow the easy steps in the README before installing all 4 folders.

• Please watch our new HeadShopPRO 2023 video here: https://youtu.be/L-wZLeR2l7o