You want some autofollow like the sizing and positioning. The rest you don't want like morphs, JCM's etc because they'll distort the shoes to something horrible.

The most common workaround right now is to use a rigidity map for the whole shoe. I think these shoes are the best use of this I've ever seen.

https://www.daz3d.com/kiera-high-heels-for-genesis-8-female-and-genesis-9

I was not able to replicate what was done with those shoes. I tried and got better results than before though. What it basically does is make the shoe act like a sword hanging on a belt or buttons on a shirt. They're just attached to the feet (almost like quasi-props) and hopefully you get some proper sizing with the right choice of reference points.

Another issue is that shoes need to be applied to a flat footed figure. So that means you need to "unbend" the toes and heel areas. This is a nightmare. So most shoes don't even try. The toes are locked in to one of the foot bones. This avoids having to deal with the weight maps. But it also makes it more difficult to size correctly. I've even seen some shoes make the toes invisible. Obviously, this doesn't work with open toe shoes.

Maybe I'd make my life easier with just one heel height. But getting the rigtht weight map values on the lower straps is almost impossible. And since they're not on the rigidity map because of said straps, autofollow will distort them. So that's why I added morphs to "undo" the most common distortions. I also added more for fine tuning.

I just put in a ticket for a feature request for multiple rigidity groups on the same vertices and allow an option to size only based on a source bone and their morphs. This would fix 90% of the problems. I'd still have a problem with fitting the item on a flat footed figure and I've mentioned this is the ticket as well. I tried the technique that's used right now with G9 (create item on a woman, but use a template to transfer it to G9), but it's garbage for footwear. Works really well for anything else.

One more issue is that if the foot bone is rotated past 45 degrees (I think it's 45, I forget the exact value, it was much higher in G3 and G8), then applying the rigging to the shoes will invert the foot bone. I'm not joking. So if you're starting to see shoes that never go beyond a certain height, that's why. It's nearly impossible to make it work when it's higher than that.

Anyways, that's just some of the difficulties I've encountered. It's quite possible I'm just not familiar with some of the tools and how to do it correctly. I have looked at way too many tutorials in the past 8 years though.

I may as well ask again in one of the forums. Maybe someone will have some insight.

• Hey Zev0, Fit Controller for Genesis 8. Not sure if anyone else has encountered this. I have both female and male for gen 3 and gen 8 as well as the add-on product that followed. I had first bought the base product a few years ago and it worked great. I had no issues. About a year and a half ago i started getting an error message that pops up saying 'an error occurred while reading the file, see the log file for more detials' (error log is pasted in below). I thought maybe give the product some time that there were some kinks and maybe an update would be needed. I've tried uninstalling fit controller and then re-installing it and I still get the message. Do you have any ideas on how to fix this? The clothing item that shows below is Vivacious Chemise, but I get the same error on any clothing item I select. I'm not sure what to do....maybe something is right in front of my face and I'm not seeing it? And before you ask, yes I am using the right script and it is updated to its latest version. I'm just at a complete loss with this. I really do like the product.(I've been getting by on dforce and some creative angles and stuff....but would like ot be able to use this again). Thank you in advance.    

  2023-04-20 19:40:16.413 [DEBUG] :: Transferring Morphs To Follower Items...

  2023-04-20 19:40:16.413 [DEBUG] :: Running Transfer Utility

  2023-04-20 19:40:16.413 [DEBUG] :: Vivacious Chemise

  2023-04-20 19:40:16.413 [WARNING] :: Script Error: Line 326

  2023-04-20 19:40:16.413 [WARNING] :: ReferenceError: Can't find variable: DzTransferUtility

  2023-04-20 19:40:16.413 [WARNING] :: Stack Trace:

  <anonymous>()@D:/Users/Goliath/Documents/DAZ 3D/Studio/My Daz Connect Library/data/cloud/1_49359/people/genesis 8 female/clothing/fit control/fit control - 01 add morphs to item.dse:326

  2023-04-20 19:40:16.536 [INFO] :: Error in script execution: D:/Users/Goliath/Documents/DAZ 3D/Studio/My Daz Connect Library/data/cloud/1_49359/people/genesis 8 female/clothing/fit control/fit control - 01 add morphs to item.dse

• Hey guys, I'm having trouble with Zev0's Fit Controller for Genesis 8. I have both female and male for gen 3 and gen 8 as well as the add-on product that followed. I had first bought the base product a few years ago and it worked great. I had no issues. About a year and a half ago i started getting an error message that pops up saying 'an error occurred while reading the file, see the log file for more detials' (error log is pasted in below). I thought maybe give the product some time that there were some kinks and maybe an upgrade would be needed. I've tried uninstalling fit controller and then re-installing it and I still get the message. Anyone have any ideas on how to fix this? The clothing item that shows below is Vivacious Chemise, but I get the same error on any clothing item I select. I'm not sure what to do....maybe something is right in front of my face and I'm not seeing it? And before anyone asks, yes I am using the right script. I'm just at a complete loss with this. I really do like the product.(I've been getting by on dforce and some creative angles and stuff....but would like ot be able to use this again). Thank you in advance.    

  2023-04-20 19:40:16.413 [DEBUG] :: Transferring Morphs To Follower Items...

  2023-04-20 19:40:16.413 [DEBUG] :: Running Transfer Utility

  2023-04-20 19:40:16.413 [DEBUG] :: Vivacious Chemise

  2023-04-20 19:40:16.413 [WARNING] :: Script Error: Line 326

  2023-04-20 19:40:16.413 [WARNING] :: ReferenceError: Can't find variable: DzTransferUtility

  2023-04-20 19:40:16.413 [WARNING] :: Stack Trace:

  <anonymous>()@D:/Users/Goliath/Documents/DAZ 3D/Studio/My Daz Connect Library/data/cloud/1_49359/people/genesis 8 female/clothing/fit control/fit control - 01 add morphs to item.dse:326

  2023-04-20 19:40:16.536 [INFO] :: Error in script execution: D:/Users/Goliath/Documents/DAZ 3D/Studio/My Daz Connect Library/data/cloud/1_49359/people/genesis 8 female/clothing/fit control/fit control - 01 add morphs to item.dse

  How do I fix this? Maybe uninstall fit control and then re-install?

•  

Hi 

Can anyone point me in the direction of a good tutorial or document that explains Joing Controlled Morphs as scalar values AND multipliers?

If there's an easier way to do this than below please let me know.  

Specifically, I'm looking for a way to apply a morph ONLY when two axes are greater not (greator or less than) 0.  So if a thigh is rotated in X but not in Z then I want to see nothing.  Likewise, if the thigh is rotated in Z but not in X nothing should show up.  But I want the morph to be applied on a scalar value when both X & Z rotations are not zero.  I've tried the first stage (Delta Add) at a Scalar value with a 2nd in the 2nd State multiplier.. and then vice versa on the other axis.  Can't get it to work in any logical way.  This is driving me nuts.  I've been playing with this off and on for Y E A R S!  

Thanks for any help you can provide

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Outside of many makeup and eye color options, Belle comes with a variety of brow fillers, mascara options, levels of tanned skin, and you can make her skin appear sweaty or oily.

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1. TBA Outfit
   1. Top
   2. Corset
   3. "Cheeky" Underwear (as requested )
   4. Waist Garter Belt (Very similiar to Onyx Lace - because it is a good one and I want to improve it for G9)
   5. Stockings (Seen in first image above)
2. TBA Accessories
   1. Veil
   2. Choker
   3. Gloves
   4. More TBA
3. TBA Textures
4. TBA Heels
5. TBA Furniture/Props (Chair seen in first image here)
   1. Chair
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RAMWolff said:

I did have a question about the hair though, does that back ponytail have a morph to make the hair more male like?  I kinda notices that seems to be the case in the promos!  

Parts of the hair can be hidden to make it more masculine.

JoeQuick's Young Anime Heroes for Genesis 9  WOW.  Surprised no one has posted about this fabulous product.  This is pure brilliance but then again we are talking about Joe.  What a mind, what an imagination and the ability to make it happen.  This is probably how Aiko and Hiro should have looked from the get go, imho!  

https://www.daz3d.com/young-anime-heroes-for-genesis-9

I did have a question about the hair though, does that back ponytail have a morph to make the hair more male like?  I kinda notices that seems to be the case in the promos!  

Interesting stuff, love the Cephalinoid but have only used him/her/it once when puchased. Is the female morph your own?

You're really inspiring me to start digging out all those old figures, it looks you're having a lot of fun.

-- Walt Sterdan

Richard Haseltine said:

Install third-party content, you aren't usign it to mean create a new morph from a dForm or Morph Loader? Unless you have broken the link (e.g. by using File>Save As>Support Assets>Figure prop Asset to turn it into a new figure) then all installed morphs should be available in all characters based on that figure (or, for Genesis 8 morph, in Genesis 8.1 too - but not vice versa)

Actually, I just wanted to change the body shape of a char after some event for a VN.

But you found the problem. That was silly of me, but the char I wanted to morph was G8 based and the new morphs were G8.1. :(

ssaqibalitipu_627e275e4d said:

Richard Haseltine said:

Inj/Rem require pre-defined channels for the morph, just as the current native morph system does. The morphs were not enbedded in the saved files (which would not be desirable as it would then be impossible to share scenes under the license terms).

A lot of work has in fact been done to improve loading times, especially when there are issues (for me Duplicate Formula clashes now have no perceptible impact on load time) - try the beta to see this.

One option is to install morphs to one or more additional content directories, then hook up only the ones you need for a given session (you can save content directory sets to make that quick).

Thanks for giving a pretty understandable licensing reason. Yes I am running multiple runtimes... Plus i extract character morphs from the directory and place those in similar structure and place only what i need for the moment, and it works pretty good and fast (though still a dirty hack). I do appreciate the performance improvements Daz has been doing and yes i have been playing with beta for some time. Although I still wisth Daz would have done some more work on either Filament or some new open source real time renderer. I know it's not a mundane task, esp when daz is giving away this wonderful piece of software for free.  But that's their business model and that's what keeps the clock ticking ;). 

As I understand it the issue with Filament on mac was one of Qt version, DS 5 will be built on a newer version of the Qt framework and will have parity with respect to Filament.

Install third-party content, you aren't usign it to mean create a new morph from a dForm or Morph Loader? Unless you have broken the link (e.g. by using File>Save As>Support Assets>Figure prop Asset to turn it into a new figure) then all installed morphs should be available in all characters based on that figure (or, for Genesis 8 morph, in Genesis 8.1 too - but not vice versa)

https://www.daz3d.com/desiree-for-victoria-7

https://www.daz3d.com/honey-bun-pose-expression-bundle-for-girl-7

Problem with the Poses distorting the back of the head/neck/shoulders in Carrara

Tried a few different poses as well as the Girl 7 morph, issue affecting all

All okay in DAZ Studio

Render from front on

Richard Haseltine said:

Inj/Rem require pre-defined channels for the morph, just as the current native morph system does. The morphs were not enbedded in the saved files (which would not be desirable as it would then be impossible to share scenes under the license terms).

A lot of work has in fact been done to improve loading times, especially when there are issues (for me Duplicate Formula clashes now have no perceptible impact on load time) - try the beta to see this.

One option is to install morphs to one or more additional content directories, then hook up only the ones you need for a given session (you can save content directory sets to make that quick).

Thanks for giving a pretty understandable licensing reason. Yes I am running multiple runtimes... Plus i extract character morphs from the directory and place those in similar structure and place only what i need for the moment, and it works pretty good and fast (though still a dirty hack). I do appreciate the performance improvements Daz has been doing and yes i have been playing with beta for some time. Although I still wisth Daz would have done some more work on either Filament or some new open source real time renderer. I know it's not a mundane task, esp when daz is giving away this wonderful piece of software for free.  But that's their business model and that's what keeps the clock ticking ;). 

Inj/Rem require pre-defined channels for the morph, just as the current native morph system does. The morphs were not enbedded in the saved files (which would not be desirable as it would then be impossible to share scenes under the license terms).

A lot of work has in fact been done to improve loading times, especially when there are issues (for me Duplicate Formula clashes now have no perceptible impact on load time) - try the beta to see this.

One option is to install morphs to one or more additional content directories, then hook up only the ones you need for a given session (you can save content directory sets to make that quick).

As far as I can tell there is no morph for the glasses so I have tried unparenting and unfitting them to see if i can move them around which I can but there is a whole skeleton of bones with them none of which manipulate the glasses directly. is there a clever way of moving the control point from the ground to the glasses? or even removeing the bones altogether?

Catherine3678ab said:

toplyz233 said:

Hi! I'm trying to save head preset and body preset separately to make separate sliders, I mean head and body, not both at the same time. Gotta save the head node under the hip node and the one under the actor node, right? But when I do it, I don't have hip node then. But it do has hip node on the object area right side, so strange, what should I do?

I mean, it changed when I only exported the node actor/.../head, but it wasn't shaping correctly. And of course with not selecting hip/.../head, when I save the body, then reload it, both the body and head change. I think it has to do with I didn't save the objects under the hip node.
What should I do? I really don't know where I did wrong.

 Whoa. Before saving a shaping preset, first save the morph! Make the head morph, save it. Make the body morph, save it. [File > Save as > ... morphs assets]

Then dial the 2 in, and make a complete character morph as a Controller [be sure to reverse deformations], and save that.

Then clear the scene, load the figure, dial in your new morph(s) and save the shaping presets. Uncheck all to start with, then have it select only that which was changed. Open the drop down selections and make sure only what you desired to be included is.

{and consider "not" compressing the file -- makes reading it later on much easier}

It worked! Thanks! Wow!!

Have you checked in the parameters for the baton? I would imagine it's a pose and/or morph slider.

Can daz rewrote this part with option of lazy loading the morphs. Like they scan the whole directory structure once to get the morphs data. From then on they can have some watcher on the figure morph folders for newly added/updated or removed morphs. and based on these show the morphs and actually load the morph when it's set.

If the time taken is due to creating what they used to call Channels i believe for morph target injection then I am not sure if there is a simple solution. Besides these things are sort of rocket science for me (not a 3d guy in true sense)

If none of this can't be done then please please please have a system where vendors get their Id's approved by daz so at least we get rid of those property not found or same ID bugs.

1 - Might be related to my illiteracy and that's the issue of fireflies in Iray render. They always creep in even if i use the light coming with the set with vendors like DM. I shall be fixing or changing a lot o things in the post work but not something like this. Especially when they appear in some complicated geometric design on ancient monument sort of situation. I have lit up the scene upto the point i can bear but still they appear (so bad for the dark inside me, and what's the point in having those beautiful lights if you can't render a dark and gloomy scene).

Well 1 is pretty much due to my illetracy. Setting Noise Degrain filtering to 3 in Render settings (it's hidden by default) and Noise Degrain Radius to 5 as suggested in the forum did the magic and solved the firefly issues in my initial testing without any noticeable loss. I still stick with my point 2 (for personal use daz should offera solution to move the morph to some duf/inj file , and save us from the nightmare of putting back the required files)

2 (The question)  it's also one of the reason for morph id collissions

This is about Daz choise regarding preloading or reading figure morphs, so as your library grow genesis figures start loading in centuries. Can be useful for someone creating a face etc. where he has all morphs available and can be doing stuff on it. But what about  1 gazillion other cases where someone want a simple render. Riversoft or someone did create a utility that basically change name of the morphs to avoid loading which is sort of dirty hack. I didn't buy it because i have already done the heavy lifting of taking all morphs out of the system in similar structure and puts only those i need.  But it's still not a good hack.

So after this whole [rigmarole] actual question

Is there a simple way I can embed the morphs in the duf files (like good old days of Inj files). I did saw an example in some character by Rhiannon i bought from renderosity (Genesis 2 character) but the issue was I couldn't take it out. So i had to remove that figure and reload. So any form of Inj/rem pose possible (with morph embeded). The question is regarding all figures. I mean let's say I trace victoria 8 face morph and embed it in my pose file and remove it from data folder and it will appear as Victoria 8 and when reset it to 0 its effect zeroed out.

Best regards .and thanks a lot if your were patient enough to read till this point

toplyz233 said:

Hi! I'm trying to save head preset and body preset separately to make separate sliders, I mean head and body, not both at the same time. Gotta save the head node under the hip node and the one under the actor node, right? But when I do it, I don't have hip node then. But it do has hip node on the object area right side, so strange, what should I do?

I mean, it changed when I only exported the node actor/.../head, but it wasn't shaping correctly. And of course with not selecting hip/.../head, when I save the body, then reload it, both the body and head change. I think it has to do with I didn't save the objects under the hip node.
What should I do? I really don't know where I did wrong.

 Whoa. Before saving a shaping preset, first save the morph! Make the head morph, save it. Make the body morph, save it. [File > Save as > ... morphs assets]

Then dial the 2 in, and make a complete character morph as a Controller [be sure to reverse deformations], and save that.

Then clear the scene, load the figure, dial in your new morph(s) and save the shaping presets. Uncheck all to start with, then have it select only that which was changed. Open the drop down selections and make sure only what you desired to be included is.

{and consider "not" compressing the file -- makes reading it later on much easier}