1. The various Genesis figurs come with "AutoFit" clones, allowing you to convert (with the loss of any custom bones) older clothing for the new figure - you can AutoFit Victoria or Michael 4 clothing to Genesis, then Auto Fit that to either Genesis 2 or Genesis 8 (there are also add-ons in the store to skip the Genesis stage). Moprhs can also be cnverted, using the Transfer Utility - there's a long thread on the geenral method, though it's mainly about Genesis 3 to Genesis 8. Victoria 4 and Michael 4 maps work on Genesis, using them on later figures requires add-on products.

2. Iray renders do not have a fixed progression the way 3delight does (and 3Delight iss till there - select it in the Editor or Advanced tab of the Render Settings pane), they look to see if the pixels are sufficiently "converged" (have stopped chnaging with each pass). An enclosed scene will usually have less light available, and will rely much more on light rays bouncing around to reach recesses and corners - that slows the convergence process down. More lights to help fill in shadow areas will help.

with GenX no longer developed due to the creator's passing people were looking for ways to bring their favorite character shapes between the various generations of DAZ figures, with some PAs selling recreations of older core characters for newer generations.
there are countless tutorials that show how to wrap one generation's topology over another's shape to get that shape transferred but due to the different generations' varying zero poses you get weird baked in poses that make subsequent posing have wonky results.  so maybe instead of directly transferring one shape to another, we could have a sort of transactional middleman mesh that acts as a bridge between generations. 
it will have the same proportions and the same t-pose across all the generations so any new morph applied to on generation will be followed by the other generations or something.
basically, we have one universal mesh that will bridge the generations and maybe act as a merchant resource for "upgrading"  abandoned core figures like Callie 6 or Lillith 7 or port brand new characters to older generations. 
heck with Zwrap for Zbrush being out now I could see the same universal mesh be used for 3d scans and original sculpts making character creation even easier.

Entry #9

Artist - Vyusur

“Where the wild roses grow”

Entry #17

Title: Shall we proceed, my dear?

Author:  UnifiedBrain

Entry 14

title  The Last Night
Artist  Misty

Special shout out to UB for breathing life into the Millenium Woman (Victoria 1) and the Radiant Jaguar Hair.  

This is a custom character based off of the Victoria 7 base model. I doubt you're going to get very close to it using a G8 base to build from. I could be wrong, but I do believe they have different bone structures, and certainly different UV maps, which is why you won't find characters like this being offered across dramatically different bases. Plus I highly doubt they would appreciate having their hard work copied and resold on a different base. Your best bet is to put in an open request to the vendor(s) of that character and ask if they can make a similar one available for Victoria 8. You might be SOL though, because it doesn't look like maelwenn has produced anything here recently for any of the newer Genesis 8 bases(Victoria, Olympia, etc.). Maybe try checking Renderosity website since some of these vendors produce content for sale at multiple sites. It won't be the exact same, but you might find something that looks similar.

Genesis 8 as a mesh is not that different to that of Genesis 3, and I am fairly sure the face has the same number of polygons in both (although I think G8 uses less polygons in the internal mouth part).

As such anything that can be modelled in G3 can also be modelled for G8. Bone structure only comes into it when using an expression, so it is possible the smile on the two versions would not look the same. 

Using a product like: https://www.daz3d.com/victoria-7-for-victoria-8 of by transferring the V7 morph to G8, plus moving over the Lydia morph, you should be able to recreate Lydia more or less exactly, it is just that the G8 version will bend better and have better expressions.

This is a terrific thread, and I hope it keeps going.

Victoria (V1) and The Gremlin head, with a Freak 3/Devourer body.  Rendered in Carrara with no postwork.

V1 is still available here.

This is a custom character based off of the Victoria 7 base model. I doubt you're going to get very close to it using a G8 base to build from. I could be wrong, but I do believe they have different bone structures, and certainly different UV maps, which is why you won't find characters like this being offered across dramatically different bases. Plus I highly doubt they would appreciate having their hard work copied and resold on a different base. Your best bet is to put in an open request to the vendor(s) of that character and ask if they can make a similar one available for Victoria 8. You might be SOL though, because it doesn't look like maelwenn has produced anything here recently for any of the newer Genesis 8 bases(Victoria, Olympia, etc.). Maybe try checking Renderosity website since some of these vendors produce content for sale at multiple sites. It won't be the exact same, but you might find something that looks similar.

They don't have to copy it, just make something as high quality.

That lydia character is higher quality than 95% of Genesis 8 female models and it's Genesis 3, lol.

I'm interested in what you mean by quality.

The Carrara fiels are for soem of the Victoria 4 Elite sets, which had separate isntallers for Poser, DS, and Carrara - you can hide the Carrara ones in Ready to Download by specific right-click or by unchecking Carrara in the Download Filters dialogue (this doesn't affect ready to Install, however).

The lack of tags should be reported to Technical Support, but it won't be affecting the rest of DIM.

Where are you keeping your Manifests?

This is a custom character based off of the Victoria 7 base model. I doubt you're going to get very close to it using a G8 base to build from. I could be wrong, but I do believe they have different bone structures, and certainly different UV maps, which is why you won't find characters like this being offered across dramatically different bases. Plus I highly doubt they would appreciate having their hard work copied and resold on a different base. Your best bet is to put in an open request to the vendor(s) of that character and ask if they can make a similar one available for Victoria 8. You might be SOL though, because it doesn't look like maelwenn has produced anything here recently for any of the newer Genesis 8 bases(Victoria, Olympia, etc.). Maybe try checking Renderosity website since some of these vendors produce content for sale at multiple sites. It won't be the exact same, but you might find something that looks similar.

They don't have to copy it, just make something as high quality.

That lydia character is higher quality than 95% of Genesis 8 female models and it's Genesis 3, lol.

This is a custom character based off of the Victoria 7 base model. I doubt you're going to get very close to it using a G8 base to build from. I could be wrong, but I do believe they have different bone structures, and certainly different UV maps, which is why you won't find characters like this being offered across dramatically different bases. Plus I highly doubt they would appreciate having their hard work copied and resold on a different base. Your best bet is to put in an open request to the vendor(s) of that character and ask if they can make a similar one available for Victoria 8. You might be SOL though, because it doesn't look like maelwenn has produced anything here recently for any of the newer Genesis 8 bases(Victoria, Olympia, etc.). Maybe try checking Renderosity website since some of these vendors produce content for sale at multiple sites. It won't be the exact same, but you might find something that looks similar.

Entry #17

Title: Shall we proceed, my dear?

Author:  UnifiedBrain

WIP:  https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/4157726/#Comment_4157726

Song/Poem: 

A bargain struck,

I set him free.

And now your flesh

Belongs to me!

Additional Notes:  The female is Victoria (V1).  The beast head is from The Gremlin and the beast body is Devourer loaded into Freak 3.

Vicky's top is a Jyune freebie for A3, and the clasp in the center is the Carrara freebie (Link Bracelet from PhilW).  Hair is Radiant Jaguar.

Background (blurred) is a wall from Telrunya.

I tried for some degree of realism, and used a mixture of HDRI, GI, and distant lights with soft shadows.  Highest settings, so it took a couple of hours. :)

No postwork.  But there was plenty of prework, including adjusting some texture maps in PSE.

Shall we proceed, my dear?

A bargain struck,

I set him free.

And now your flesh

Belongs to me!

Wendy is pretty much to blame for this last-minute render.  I had intended to enter only one image per Challenge for a while, as I'm working on another project.  But Wendy has reminded us several times over the years that Victoria (V1) is still sold by Daz in the Mimic Lite package.  Curiosity finally got the best of me, as I had to see what was really there.

It's the real deal!  The skin is awful (painted on underwear), but that is easily remedied by looking up free V1 skin resources.  I expected there to be no morphs in the V1 package, and was pleasently surprised to find a small number of very useful head and body morphs.

Vicky, you've been unfaily neglected!

The beast head is from The Gremlin (also part of the Mimic Lite package) and the beast body is Devourer loaded into Freak 3.  Devourer had displacement maps, yay!

Vicky's top is a Jyune freebie for A3, and the clasp in the center is the Carrara freebie (Link Bracelet from PhilW).  Hair is Radiant Jaguar.

Background (blurred) is a wall from Telrunya.

I tried for some degree of realism, and used a mixture of HDRI, GI, and distant lights with soft shadows.  Highest settings, so it took a couple of hours. :)

No postwork.  But there was plenty of prework, including adjusting some texture maps in PSE.

Can someone make more Genesis 8 females that look like this:

This picture is from: https://www.daz3d.com/lydia-hd-for-victoria-7

Thanks.

Thank you Sonja (IceDragon) I think I am understanding now maybe? so what you are saying is if I use the base model of 8 essentials or Victoria 8 and render it that is not ok? I think maybe? But if I use another character that uses 8 it is ok? or am I not understanding the prop thing?

You can use any assets in the store for personal or commercial renders and art work.  You just cant share the actually 3d object.  In other words, you could not gift someone Victoria 8 herself but you can give a render or piece of artwork that you made using her.

Also this Iray thing I take it that it is part of 4.10 and comes with it? Just wondering cause I see it on alot of the store stuff and I am scratching my head.

Iray support was included with Daz Studio starting in 4.8, so any newer version will have Iray support. If you're asking what Iray is, that's a whole other story.

Ok I have one major question before i have a heart attack lol. I am mostly interested in scfi and fantasy. When I look at the store at victoria 8 I do not see much but for Victoria 4 I see everything under the sun..... As a newb that just wants to create what would you suggest victoria 8 or victoria 4? I am trying to hit this while the sale is going being I do not know how long it is going to last?. If it goes away it will be the end for me for awhile lol. Please help..:)

If you're choosing a figure to go with, V4 would definitely be cheaper, but V4 and her content were made for a much older version of Daz Studio/Poser. So the models will have lower resolution geometry and textures. There's still some new content being made for V4, but the character and clothes don't have High Definition morphs and other enhancements that V8 has.

Ok I have one major question before i have a heart attack lol. I am mostly interested in scfi and fantasy. When I look at the store at victoria 8 I do not see much but for Victoria 4 I see everything under the sun..... As a newb that just wants to create what would you suggest victoria 8 or victoria 4? I am trying to hit this while the sale is going being I do not know how long it is going to last?. If it goes away it will be the end for me for awhile lol. Please help..:)

Thank you Sonja (IceDragon) I think I am understanding now maybe? so what you are saying is if I use the base model of 8 essentials or Victoria 8 and render it that is not ok? I think maybe? But if I use another character that uses 8 it is ok? or am I not understanding the prop thing?

Thanks Johnny Ray what is the difference between converter, sy clothing fit helper and sy ultrta templates? i am seriously just trying to get what I need and things that will make my life alittle bit easier when it comes to all this so far I have on my list Victoria 8 pro bundle, body morphs, head morphs,hair,some back drops,lighting..am I on the right track? budget ya know lol

Ok thank you all very much for your answers:) I really don;t think I have been anywhere that people actually answer without a catch. I will surely look into it today and see what I can do. Also one other question if I decided to go with victoria 8 can I get cloths that I see for genesis 2 or 3? being I have read 8 is backwards compatible? or it really is not that backwards compatible? Just wondering with the whole cloths thing so I dont waste $$. I at least figured out the hair thing lol.

First things first: During the recent PC+ sale, I made two attempts to buy The Kids 4. Both purchases were cancelled and refunded by PayPal, because there was apparently "a risk" attached to the transaction, they claimed. Turns out, I wasn't the only one who had experienced that exact problem with The Kids. So yeah. A forum moderator suggested we should contact Customer Support, and I sent them a ticket. Then I mostly forgot about the whole thing.

Fast forward a couple of weeks, and I dig around in DS looking for Victoria 4. In the "Daz People" screen, The Kids 4 are looking back at me, smiling all innocently.  I even managed to load them into the viewport, they're definitely there! But how? And when? And BTW, I haven't paid for them, because the purchase was refunded. I checked my content library on my account page, and they're not listed there, but they're most definitely in my Studio. So I suppose I ought to say "thank you," to whomever put them there, but it's all very ~~mysterious.~~

If you're looking to get it into DAZ Studio then the Michael 3 version might be a bit of a pain. There is a set for Victoria 4 here.

https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/sexy-sniper/114387/

Already based on a famous video game character (wonder if it's the one you're looking to recreate?)

The V4 version will transfer to Genesis characters much easier.