Check these threads for tips on using Filatoon:

https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/704951/anime-toons-and-filatoon-shader-q-a/p1

https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/704931/filatoon-cell-shaded-rendering-with-filament/p1

TheNathanParable said:

Phyre Fey said:

TheNathanParable said:

Don't look behind you...

Gallery link: https://www.daz3d.com/gallery#gallery=all&sort=newest&page=1&image=1352413

 

 This looks SO GOOD! I'm so in love with these shaders and I'm happy that Visual Style Shaders work super well with filament and filatoon.

Thanks! I do wanna clarify though that these aren't my Visual Style Shaders (they only work in 3Delight, and not Filament), these are the standard FilaToon shaders with some tweaked parameters (such as shadow smoothing and colours). I'm still in the experimentation phase, and would like to eventually create a pack of FilaToon presets recreating the look of Visual Style as close as possible.

Oh yeah I was saying that I'm using visual style shaders along with filatoon to achieve a more toony look, so I'll apply VSS first and then filatoon on top. ;D 

Here's what I'm working on, I found some things like the leaves and antlers/branches are better with just VSS, while non toon hairs really benefit from VSS + Filatoon;

 

If you noted toon hairs are solid geometry. Filament can't handle multiple layers of transparency, not even in 4.23. That's somewhat odd as opengl works fine with multipass, but filament doesn't have a multipass option.

cain-x said:

I posted this in https://forum.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/707056/filament-opacity-issues-in-daz-4-23 but has the opacity issues (primarily with hair) been fixed in the latest iteration of Filament in 4.23? 

Have you tried this: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/8923351/#Comment_8923351

I posted this in https://forum.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/707056/filament-opacity-issues-in-daz-4-23 but has the opacity issues (primarily with hair) been fixed in the latest iteration of Filament in 4.23? 

Just wanted to confirm if these opacity issues remain in the latest iteration of Filament.

The hair themselves just have a diffuse and opacity map and using the FilaToon Constant shader settings - it gets it close but not close enough. Are there other tips/tricks I can try here? Iray/3delight renders the hair much better but Filament is just that much quicker.

Phyre Fey said:

TheNathanParable said:

Don't look behind you...

Gallery link: https://www.daz3d.com/gallery#gallery=all&sort=newest&page=1&image=1352413

 

 This looks SO GOOD! I'm so in love with these shaders and I'm happy that Visual Style Shaders work super well with filament and filatoon.

Thanks! I do wanna clarify though that these aren't my Visual Style Shaders (they only work in 3Delight, and not Filament), these are the standard FilaToon shaders with some tweaked parameters (such as shadow smoothing and colours). I'm still in the experimentation phase, and would like to eventually create a pack of FilaToon presets recreating the look of Visual Style as close as possible.

Crios said:

Comunque ho scarica G9, e DAZ mi ha fatto fare un download di altri aggiornamenti, ma non va. Quando renderizzo in Filament, tipo la maglia del ragazzo, mi parte il render in 3Delight,e non in filament. Quando provo a renderizzare G9F anime, mi parte il render in Iray. NB: uso l'ambient nel pacco della ime, e selezione sia la visuale in Filament che il render in View content, non seleziono né 3Delight né Iray.

Usi l'ultima versione di DS? 

barbult said:

Oso3D said:

barbult said:

This is my days long attempt at UltraScenery2 with FilaToon.  I used Pines Classic Content. Basically, I had no idea what I was doing with all those FilaToon and Filament Draw Style controls. I had a lot of crashes along the way, when I tried to raise the preview percentages too high or tried to change something else that affected the preview while it was still working on generating the preview display. I did use a layer mask to hide the preview of the area not visible and I turned on the preview of some layers, like river pebbles and road pebbles. I also changed the color of some items that were too yellow or too pale with the FilaToon shader applied. I added a normal map to the water to try to make ripples. I noticed interesting differences between Mipmaps on and off. In the end, I generated both and combined them in Photoshop. Then I ran it through Krea Enhance for fun. I think USC2 is not really well suited to FilaToon, or at least not until I have a better handle on the settings.

 

I don't know, that looks pretty cool to me. Reminds me of a game environment on some system with lighter resources. Not quite dumbed down to Switch levels, but...

My computer isn't up to handling so many preview instances, I guess. The frustration due to so many crashes and visual glitches made it not very fun. USC2 wasn't really designed to preview all that grass,etc. It was more to see where the trees would be, I think. (There is a typo in my original message saying I turned on river pebbles and road pebbles. I actually turned those things OFF. Having those on would have probably been impossible.)

i turned my trees down to 25%. I'm crashing too much. It worked last time, we will see 

TheNathanParable said:

Don't look behind you...

Gallery link: https://www.daz3d.com/gallery#gallery=all&sort=newest&page=1&image=1352413

 

 This looks SO GOOD! I'm so in love with these shaders and I'm happy that Visual Style Shaders work super well with filament and filatoon.

Oso3D said:

barbult said:

This is my days long attempt at UltraScenery2 with FilaToon.  I used Pines Classic Content. Basically, I had no idea what I was doing with all those FilaToon and Filament Draw Style controls. I had a lot of crashes along the way, when I tried to raise the preview percentages too high or tried to change something else that affected the preview while it was still working on generating the preview display. I did use a layer mask to hide the preview of the area not visible and I turned on the preview of some layers, like river pebbles and road pebbles. I also changed the color of some items that were too yellow or too pale with the FilaToon shader applied. I added a normal map to the water to try to make ripples. I noticed interesting differences between Mipmaps on and off. In the end, I generated both and combined them in Photoshop. Then I ran it through Krea Enhance for fun. I think USC2 is not really well suited to FilaToon, or at least not until I have a better handle on the settings.

 

I don't know, that looks pretty cool to me. Reminds me of a game environment on some system with lighter resources. Not quite dumbed down to Switch levels, but...

My computer isn't up to handling so many preview instances, I guess. The frustration due to so many crashes and visual glitches made it not very fun. USC2 wasn't really designed to preview all that grass,etc. It was more to see where the trees would be, I think. (There is a typo in my original message saying I turned on river pebbles and road pebbles. I actually turned those things OFF. Having those on would have probably been impossible.)

Imago said:

Crios said:

Comunque ho scarica G9, e DAZ mi ha fatto fare un download di altri aggiornamenti, ma non va. Quando renderizzo in Filament, tipo la maglia del ragazzo, mi parte il render in 3Delight,e non in filament. Quando provo a renderizzare G9F anime, mi parte il render in Iray. NB: uso l'ambient nel pacco della ime, e selezione sia la visuale in Filament che il render in View content, non seleziono né 3Delight né Iray.

Hai selezionato "viewport" nelle opzioni come motore di render?

Si, messo come motore Viewport

barbult said:

This is my days long attempt at UltraScenery2 with FilaToon.  I used Pines Classic Content. Basically, I had no idea what I was doing with all those FilaToon and Filament Draw Style controls. I had a lot of crashes along the way, when I tried to raise the preview percentages too high or tried to change something else that affected the preview while it was still working on generating the preview display. I did use a layer mask to hide the preview of the area not visible and I turned on the preview of some layers, like river pebbles and road pebbles. I also changed the color of some items that were too yellow or too pale with the FilaToon shader applied. I added a normal map to the water to try to make ripples. I noticed interesting differences between Mipmaps on and off. In the end, I generated both and combined them in Photoshop. Then I ran it through Krea Enhance for fun. I think USC2 is not really well suited to FilaToon, or at least not until I have a better handle on the settings.

 

I don't know, that looks pretty cool to me. Reminds me of a game environment on some system with lighter resources. Not quite dumbed down to Switch levels, but...

 

SickleYield said:

No, it just applies base Filament shaders. For it to make everything Filatoon I think we'd need a second product.

Yeah, I imagine a lot of the lighting and environment adjustments from this version would help, but there are enough differences that a Filatoon specific product would be ideal. 

No, it just applies base Filament shaders. For it to make everything Filatoon I think we'd need a second product.

Crios said:

Comunque ho scarica G9, e DAZ mi ha fatto fare un download di altri aggiornamenti, ma non va. Quando renderizzo in Filament, tipo la maglia del ragazzo, mi parte il render in 3Delight,e non in filament. Quando provo a renderizzare G9F anime, mi parte il render in Iray. NB: uso l'ambient nel pacco della ime, e selezione sia la visuale in Filament che il render in View content, non seleziono né 3Delight né Iray.

Hai selezionato "viewport" nelle opzioni come motore di render?

Crios said:

Comunque ho scarica G9, e DAZ mi ha fatto fare un download di altri aggiornamenti, ma non va. Quando renderizzo in Filament, tipo la maglia del ragazzo, mi parte il render in 3Delight,e non in filament. Quando provo a renderizzare G9F anime, mi parte il render in Iray. NB: uso l'ambient nel pacco della ime, e selezione sia la visuale in Filament che il render in View content, non seleziono né 3Delight né Iray.

Io faccio così:

-Scelgo come render engine: Viewport (immagine 1)

-Renderizzo e tutto funziona (immagine 2)

 

Totte said:

memcneil70 said:

Totte said:

Rod Wise Driggo said:

Does anybody know if 4.23 is ready for Mac users. I've heard that this version for Mac has still issues?

4.23.0.1 Release has issues with MF plugins, fixed in 4.23.0.3 Public Beta (which is 4.23.0.1 plus that fix), so no issues using the Public Beta thinkin it's a very beta-ish version.

 

@Totte, up to what version of macOS? I have not updated yet to macOS Sequoia 15.0.1 and I am still on Sonoma 14.7.

Mary

I run 14.7 on this one, and 15.0.1 on my little M2 air, mostly for testing things. I need to know that other things work as well.  When I jumped to 14 from 13 I knew the menues would be a problem but it was fixed rather promptly. I don't know of any known issues with DS yet.

 

Thank you very much. My M1 is so cranky and has been kind of stable I was about to hook up its new backup drive when all these updates started hitting with issues and it got freaked me out. I will first get that backup set-up and then do the updates to the OS then D|S. Now if we could just get filament for the Macs. 

Comunque ho scarica G9, e DAZ mi ha fatto fare un download di altri aggiornamenti, ma non va. Quando renderizzo in Filament, tipo la maglia del ragazzo, mi parte il render in 3Delight,e non in filament. Quando provo a renderizzare G9F anime, mi parte il render in Iray. NB: uso l'ambient nel pacco della ime, e selezione sia la visuale in Filament che il render in View content, non seleziono né 3Delight né Iray.

Just noticed you use a Mac system, Filament does not support Mac by now...