NylonGirl said:

Faeryl Womyn said:

I never said anyone broke any rules, so don't put words in my mouth that I never stated.

Since I made that first post comments have only been about my saying the thread should be closed, not one comment about the suggestions I made...interesting.

For me, it's not so much a suggestion that the thread be closed that bothers me, but anything that would suppress discussion. I have had an incident in which I had a fairly significant issue with a product purchased in the store. I was told I was using the product wrong and basically called an idiot, and then the thread was locked. Well I was not using the product wrong. It just had exactly the issue I said it had. And locking the thread not only left the issue unresolved but the last comment in the thread was the part about me not knowing what I'm doing, and there was no way for me to defend myself. So I felt like closing threads was used as a bit of a weapon, and that makes me a bit sensitive to suggestions that a thread should be closed because there is some negative sentiment about DAZ.

I believe that was the moment I switched from DAZ to Poser. This was during the Victoria 4 era. I eventually came back when I learned DAZ had a built-in ray tracer and I didn't have to sort out how to get Luxrender working anymore. But I continue to see other people complaining about things and getting their posts deleted and threads locked.

I wasn't suppressing discussion, if taken that way then for that part I appoligize. As for you having a complaint and how it was dealt with, I've seen similar over the years, even now. These days they advise going to the product forum where one can find answers. That actually seems smart to me. As for what Richard said about closing threads due to accusations or multiple threads of the same thing, I agree with him. Accusations don't speed up the help and in fact delay it.  Multiple threads just clutters up the forum. One thing not mentioned by Richard is when threads get taken over with other topics not related to the original post,
I've had my own problems with Daz (and Richard) for deleted posts and threads that I didn't agree with, in most cases you will get an email when that happens. I've been on the forums a long time, seen the different moods based on what was being posted. My worst experience with Daz was when I first started with the program, I needed help as I was learning, problem was some were more into accussing me of being an idiot, I have no business being here and I should give up on 3D. Fortunately I'm stubborn and very outspoken, then found a different place not on Daz to get help. When I came back, the mood had changed, people were actually helping others new to the program. That's one thing you can count on with the forums, no matter what the mood it, wait 6 months to a year and it'll change.

 

hello, Does anyone know what character this is? Material or Morph?

Tattoos are not part of the material

She has two spots on her face, one on her chin and one between her cheek and nose

She looks like a Raiya model RY Adeline for Victoria 8 | Daz 3D

All Howl The Lycan

I'm just a Daz+ member so don't have access to the female version though you do get female elements. Used Victoria 9 skin/body altered hips and breats then morphed the Lycan form in and other Lycan elements the wolfs are the Dire Wolfs used some of the other dog breeds/expresions to them gave one a kinda weird mouth but think that adds to the monster aspect of the wolves

This is the base Victoria 9 full render. I have no idea why this is happening

NylonGirl said:

Faeryl Womyn said:

I never said anyone broke any rules, so don't put words in my mouth that I never stated.

Since I made that first post comments have only been about my saying the thread should be closed, not one comment about the suggestions I made...interesting.

For me, it's not so much a suggestion that the thread be closed that bothers me, but anything that would suppress discussion. I have had an incident in which I had a fairly significant issue with a product purchased in the store. I was told I was using the product wrong and basically called an idiot, and then the thread was locked. Well I was not using the product wrong. It just had exactly the issue I said it had. And locking the thread not only left the issue unresolved but the last comment in the thread was the part about me not knowing what I'm doing, and there was no way for me to defend myself. So I felt like closing threads was used as a bit of a weapon, and that makes me a bit sensitive to suggestions that a thread should be closed because there is some negative sentiment about DAZ.

I believe that was the moment I switched from DAZ to Poser. This was during the Victoria 4 era. I eventually came back when I learned DAZ had a built-in ray tracer and I didn't have to sort out how to get Luxrender working anymore. But I continue to see other people complaining about things and getting their posts deleted and threads locked.

Threads are not locked nor posts removed for complaining - possibly for complaints that turn into accusations, but not for complaining and certainly not for reporting issues (though if there are multiple threads on the same issue we may lock or consolidate them).

Unfortunately I cannot recall the occasion you meantion, and presumably it was on the old forum and so not available for checking (I certainly can't see any locked threads, other than an iteration of the Complaint thread, in your current history).

Faeryl Womyn said:

I never said anyone broke any rules, so don't put words in my mouth that I never stated.

Since I made that first post comments have only been about my saying the thread should be closed, not one comment about the suggestions I made...interesting.

For me, it's not so much a suggestion that the thread be closed that bothers me, but anything that would suppress discussion. I have had an incident in which I had a fairly significant issue with a product purchased in the store. I was told I was using the product wrong and basically called an idiot, and then the thread was locked. Well I was not using the product wrong. It just had exactly the issue I said it had. And locking the thread not only left the issue unresolved but the last comment in the thread was the part about me not knowing what I'm doing, and there was no way for me to defend myself. So I felt like closing threads was used as a bit of a weapon, and that makes me a bit sensitive to suggestions that a thread should be closed because there is some negative sentiment about DAZ.

I believe that was the moment I switched from DAZ to Poser. This was during the Victoria 4 era. I eventually came back when I learned DAZ had a built-in ray tracer and I didn't have to sort out how to get Luxrender working anymore. But I continue to see other people complaining about things and getting their posts deleted and threads locked.

And this is the base Victoria 9? Those look to be previews, does the effect go away with a full render?

TesseractSpace said:

TriCounter said:

XiousDs said:

Ghosty12 said:

Just seen Lycan 9 looked interesting, that is until I read that the female Lycan 9 shape is locked behind premier. So any thought of getting anything Lycan 9 has gone straight out the window.

 

 

Did Victoria 9 provide a specific male version for it? Did Michael 9 provide a specific female version for it? No, but you could super easily make the opposite gender for them by just dialing in the opposite gender shape.

Later we got daz customized opposite genders for the models. With gen 9 you can put boobs and gens on any model, so I think you might be over reacting. The female shape is literally a convenience feature for premier rather than a requirement, unlike Aiko 9. I would dare say, though, you can pretty much replicate Aiko 9 via the toon essentials and some time so even that is probably more of a convenience feature too.

While I do get the sentiment behind your post and agree....the pedant in me needs to post the links below ;)

 https://www.daz3d.com/victoria-9-hd-masculine-add-on

https://www.daz3d.com/michael-9-hd-feminine-shape-add-on

He did note the later release of the opposite-gender add-ons.

This. Lol the special opposite gender versions were released like more than a year later I think.

TriCounter said:

XiousDs said:

Ghosty12 said:

Just seen Lycan 9 looked interesting, that is until I read that the female Lycan 9 shape is locked behind premier. So any thought of getting anything Lycan 9 has gone straight out the window.

 

 

Did Victoria 9 provide a specific male version for it? Did Michael 9 provide a specific female version for it? No, but you could super easily make the opposite gender for them by just dialing in the opposite gender shape.

Later we got daz customized opposite genders for the models. With gen 9 you can put boobs and gens on any model, so I think you might be over reacting. The female shape is literally a convenience feature for premier rather than a requirement, unlike Aiko 9. I would dare say, though, you can pretty much replicate Aiko 9 via the toon essentials and some time so even that is probably more of a convenience feature too.

While I do get the sentiment behind your post and agree....the pedant in me needs to post the links below ;)

 https://www.daz3d.com/victoria-9-hd-masculine-add-on

https://www.daz3d.com/michael-9-hd-feminine-shape-add-on

He did note the later release of the opposite-gender add-ons.

XiousDs said:

Ghosty12 said:

Just seen Lycan 9 looked interesting, that is until I read that the female Lycan 9 shape is locked behind premier. So any thought of getting anything Lycan 9 has gone straight out the window.

 

 

Did Victoria 9 provide a specific male version for it? Did Michael 9 provide a specific female version for it? No, but you could super easily make the opposite gender for them by just dialing in the opposite gender shape. Later we got daz customized opposite genders for the models. With gen 9 you can put boobs and gens on any model, so I think you might be over reacting. The female shape is literally a convenience feature for premier rather than a requirement, unlike Aiko 9. I would dare say, though, you can pretty much replicate Aiko 9 via the toon essentials and some time so even that is probably more of a convenience feature too.

While I do get the sentiment behind your post and agree....the pedant in me needs to post the links below ;)

 https://www.daz3d.com/victoria-9-hd-masculine-add-on

https://www.daz3d.com/michael-9-hd-feminine-shape-add-on

 

I love it

Funnily enough, I followed a similar train of thought, but ended with a different result, because in a way, I went the opposite way with going back to when Victoria was younger.

I started working on it two weeks ago but couldn't advance as much as I wanted and Initially, I only had the ladybugs, but took advantages of the recent wishlist sale to get the whole bundle. Thankfully, I found time to finish what I started yesterday, because it took the whole night to render it .

But I digress as usual, so ‘… Let’s go exploring’

All items from Daz should be linked in the gallery. The two freebies by @AllenArt are here:

• https://sharecg.com/v/99649/gallery/21/DAZ-Studio/Magnifying-Glass
• https://sharecg.com/v/95893/gallery/21/DAZ-Studio/Iray-Jewelry-Shaders

@Fae3D > Very nice. With a lot of reflections in the crystal which I suppose meant it was a long render.

Thank you!  Yes, the render took overnight and well into the next day.  And I had to do it twice, because the first time I forgot to make the "ceiling" of the cave visible, so there was a gap in the reflections >_<  I don't have the right graphics card for Iray, so Iray and I have a sort of tense relationship, lol!

I love your pic, I remember doing that all the time as a kid.  I was scared of bugs, but they also fascinated me, so I went out and "studied" them often!  Not far from my house, though, in case one of the bugs wanted to get too close I wanted to be able to retreat XD 

TesseractSpace said:

OrangeFalcon said:

XiousDs said:

Ghosty12 said:

Just seen Lycan 9 looked interesting, that is until I read that the female Lycan 9 shape is locked behind premier. So any thought of getting anything Lycan 9 has gone straight out the window.

 

 

Did Victoria 9 provide a specific male version for it? Did Michael 9 provide a specific female version for it? No, but you could super easily make the opposite gender for them by just dialing in the opposite gender shape. Later we got daz customized opposite genders for the models. With gen 9 you can put boobs and gens on any model, so I think you might be over reacting. The female shape is literally a convenience feature for premier rather than a requirement, unlike Aiko 9. I would dare say, though, you can pretty much replicate Aiko 9 via the toon essentials and some time so even that is probably more of a convenience feature too.

These are great points.  With sliders you can easily do things like change genders and go all out with the customizing.

However, in this case, having Lycan female is required because it's a unique model-the Lycan morph is great, but there are things that just don't work.  For example, the feet need the slider to be at or close to 100% to look right.  And, well, there isn't an individual morph for it, so you'll get the full bulky Lycan model.  M3D Claws look fantastic, but my lady werewolf isn't a bodybuilder so I'm awaiting the female to be released (I have Premier and it look like it isn't available to add to my library yet).

I'd like to reiterate that I do not support putting anything behind the subscription paywall.  If anything, this makes it more annoying because you CAN'T easily morph Lycan to female.  I suppose you could get Phenotypes for Monsters but a full, dedicated model is always the best way to go.

You can dial in base feminine and breast morphs just fine with the Lycan 9 at 100%. Won't be quite the same, but it will work and there are anatomy textures in Lycan 9 for females.

Yes, I have experimented with it, but for me it's the lupine feet that make me unhappy.  It can look okay from the waist up with the breast morphs, but I don't like the full body look.  It would have been nice for them to just add the male and female to the base product. 

OrangeFalcon said:

XiousDs said:

Ghosty12 said:

Just seen Lycan 9 looked interesting, that is until I read that the female Lycan 9 shape is locked behind premier. So any thought of getting anything Lycan 9 has gone straight out the window.

 

 

Did Victoria 9 provide a specific male version for it? Did Michael 9 provide a specific female version for it? No, but you could super easily make the opposite gender for them by just dialing in the opposite gender shape. Later we got daz customized opposite genders for the models. With gen 9 you can put boobs and gens on any model, so I think you might be over reacting. The female shape is literally a convenience feature for premier rather than a requirement, unlike Aiko 9. I would dare say, though, you can pretty much replicate Aiko 9 via the toon essentials and some time so even that is probably more of a convenience feature too.

These are great points.  With sliders you can easily do things like change genders and go all out with the customizing.

However, in this case, having Lycan female is required because it's a unique model-the Lycan morph is great, but there are things that just don't work.  For example, the feet need the slider to be at or close to 100% to look right.  And, well, there isn't an individual morph for it, so you'll get the full bulky Lycan model.  M3D Claws look fantastic, but my lady werewolf isn't a bodybuilder so I'm awaiting the female to be released (I have Premier and it look like it isn't available to add to my library yet).

I'd like to reiterate that I do not support putting anything behind the subscription paywall.  If anything, this makes it more annoying because you CAN'T easily morph Lycan to female.  I suppose you could get Phenotypes for Monsters but a full, dedicated model is always the best way to go.

You can dial in base feminine and breast morphs just fine with the Lycan 9 at 100%. Won't be quite the same, but it will work and there are anatomy textures in Lycan 9 for females.

XiousDs said:

Ghosty12 said:

Just seen Lycan 9 looked interesting, that is until I read that the female Lycan 9 shape is locked behind premier. So any thought of getting anything Lycan 9 has gone straight out the window.

 

 

Did Victoria 9 provide a specific male version for it? Did Michael 9 provide a specific female version for it? No, but you could super easily make the opposite gender for them by just dialing in the opposite gender shape. Later we got daz customized opposite genders for the models. With gen 9 you can put boobs and gens on any model, so I think you might be over reacting. The female shape is literally a convenience feature for premier rather than a requirement, unlike Aiko 9. I would dare say, though, you can pretty much replicate Aiko 9 via the toon essentials and some time so even that is probably more of a convenience feature too.

These are great points.  With sliders you can easily do things like change genders and go all out with the customizing.

However, in this case, having Lycan female is required because it's a unique model-the Lycan morph is great, but there are things that just don't work.  For example, the feet need the slider to be at or close to 100% to look right.  And, well, there isn't an individual morph for it, so you'll get the full bulky Lycan model.  M3D Claws look fantastic, but my lady werewolf isn't a bodybuilder so I'm awaiting the female to be released (I have Premier and it look like it isn't available to add to my library yet).

I'd like to reiterate that I do not support putting anything behind the subscription paywall.  If anything, this makes it more annoying because you CAN'T easily morph Lycan to female.  I suppose you could get Phenotypes for Monsters but a full, dedicated model is always the best way to go.

Ghosty12 said:

Just seen Lycan 9 looked interesting, that is until I read that the female Lycan 9 shape is locked behind premier. So any thought of getting anything Lycan 9 has gone straight out the window.

 

 

Did Victoria 9 provide a specific male version for it? Did Michael 9 provide a specific female version for it? No, but you could super easily make the opposite gender for them by just dialing in the opposite gender shape. Later we got daz customized opposite genders for the models. With gen 9 you can put boobs and gens on any model, so I think you might be over reacting. The female shape is literally a convenience feature for premier rather than a requirement, unlike Aiko 9. I would dare say, though, you can pretty much replicate Aiko 9 via the toon essentials and some time so even that is probably more of a convenience feature too.

Llola Lane said:

and nattaruk... I wanna visit THAT planet... so pretty... Thanks for sharing.

Not sure I want to visit it. Sure it's pretty, but the inhabitants may want to snack on humans

Your own render is nice too, with a very nice underwater DoF effect

SofaCitizen said:

When I grow up....

Gallery link for assets used.

I love it

Funnily enough, I followed a similar train of thought, but ended with a different result, because in a way, I went the opposite way with going back to when Victoria was younger.

I started working on it two weeks ago but couldn't advance as much as I wanted and Initially, I only had the ladybugs, but took advantages of the recent wishlist sale to get the whole bundle. Thankfully, I found time to finish what I started yesterday, because it took the whole night to render it .

But I digress as usual, so ‘… Let’s go exploring’

All items from Daz should be linked in the gallery. The two freebies by @AllenArt are here:

• https://sharecg.com/v/99649/gallery/21/DAZ-Studio/Magnifying-Glass
• https://sharecg.com/v/95893/gallery/21/DAZ-Studio/Iray-Jewelry-Shaders

@Fae3D > Very nice. With a lot of reflections in the crystal which I suppose meant it was a long render.

crosswind said:

bernardo.odreman said:

crosswind said:

I couldn't reproduce the issue with the characters you mentioned.... So check corrective morph firstly with Victoria 9.

- filter cbs in Parameters pane, select Currently Used with Show Hidden Properties... > On
- there should be only eight corrective morphs in the list, is that correct?

I have 6 only and they dont mirror exactly yours either...Screenshot attached for quick reference.

THank you! 

Oh... you gave her a different pose this time, not a big deal... if you pose both Shoulders and Upper Arms, you'll see more corrective morphs.

Anyway, have you noticed there're another two corrective morphs from another character: Boragia ? (ss1) They're the culprits.  If you set them to zero, the distortion will be gone.

The vendor wrongly set ERC settings... they should've been only triggered when Boragia body morph is dialed... You can fill a ticket and uninstall that character product for the time being... or correct the ERC settings in Property Hierarchy yourself. (refer to this thread if you want to do so: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/8915156/#Comment_8915156 in Edit Mode, locate the corrective morphs in Property Hierarchy, and drag Boragia's Body Morph property to 2nd stage controller.)

Just perfect...Thank you kind Sir, that did the trick O.- 

bernardo.odreman said:

crosswind said:

I couldn't reproduce the issue with the characters you mentioned.... So check corrective morph firstly with Victoria 9.

- filter cbs in Parameters pane, select Currently Used with Show Hidden Properties... > On
- there should be only eight corrective morphs in the list, is that correct?

I have 6 only and they dont mirror exactly yours either...Screenshot attached for quick reference.

THank you! 

Oh... you gave her a different pose this time, not a big deal... if you pose both Shoulders and Upper Arms, you'll see more corrective morphs.

Anyway, have you noticed there're another two corrective morphs from another character: Boragia ? (ss1) They're the culprits.  If you set them to zero, the distortion will be gone.

The vendor wrongly set ERC settings... they should've been only triggered when Boragia body morph is dialed... You can fill a ticket and uninstall that character product for the time being... or correct the ERC settings in Property Hierarchy yourself. (refer to this thread if you want to do so: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/8915156/#Comment_8915156 in Edit Mode, locate the corrective morphs in Property Hierarchy, and drag Boragia's Body Morph property to 2nd stage controller.)

crosswind said:

I couldn't reproduce the issue with the characters you mentioned.... So check corrective morph firstly with Victoria 9.

- filter cbs in Parameters pane, select Currently Used with Show Hidden Properties... > On
- there should be only eight corrective morphs in the list, is that correct?

I have 6 only and they dont mirror exactly yours either...Screenshot attached for quick reference.

THank you! 

I couldn't reproduce the issue with the characters you mentioned.... So check corrective morph firstly with Victoria 9.

- filter cbs in Parameters pane, select Currently Used with Show Hidden Properties... > On
- there should be only eight corrective morphs in the list, is that correct?