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pull #4:
1328 Daydream
4262 PTF Cheer for Everyone! Expressions for Genesis 8
6167 Vintage Rose for Genesis 2 Female(s)
3574 Mosquito
1814 Fh Indoor Pool
4529 Robot Starwaiter
4645 Rons Waterfalls

Also Used:
Zip Speedy
Potted palms
XiaoWen shape + Azumi texture
Victoria 5 Elite Pony Tail
Decadent Lilith 6 + Leticia texture
Vintage Noir
Edwardian Hair
Duncan Hair
Freddie Gold Outfit
Leroy8 +Valentino 8 + Silas texture

Is it possible to use transmapped eyelashes created for a Victoria 4 character on a Genesis 3, 8, or 9 figure?  The size and shape of the eyes is different on every generation, and where they are placed.  Is there some utility to convert eyelashes?

Thanks!

Wonderland said:

There are always a lot of complaints about pricing here but I remember when I first joined ages ago, there were nowhere near as many sales with such discounts as they have now. One of the first items I got (that was a Christmas gift from my parents lol) was Millenium Girls which, if I remember correctly, was well over $20 and never on sale. I can't seem to find it in the store anymore--maybe it's gone now? Anyhow, I remember my first March Madness when Daz uploaded new items in the morning rather than night (and never on time lol) when everyone on the forums got excited over the release of two or three new Daz Originals priced under $4.00 and everyone was thrilled.  Now we can get items from $1.99-3.99 often and if one is really good at shopping here you can usually get new-ish PA items at over 85% off if you mix the right combination with tokens. Yeah, I'm not happy about the changes to Daz+ and not sure what I'm going to do when mine expires in April but for the last several years the prices (if you play the shopping cart game well enough) are much lower than in the supposed "good old days." I've been mad at Daz for various reasons throughout the years but the prices really can be great if you know to juggle things correctly.

I remember when Victoria was released back in 1999 you got the model and a base texture for around $90.00. Then on 1/12/01 the update came out for $59.95 once more just model and updated textures that rquired the first set, no genitals, no poses, and no morphs

Hello, my work is "Monster in the dorm". I used the following three  'Battle' New Releases:

3DLoki Josephine for Genesis 9 - she is the scared girl on the bed

MightyMite Poses 004 Genesis 9 - Josephine's pose, rotated in X, Y and Z.

Z Mixed Martial Arts Pose Mega Set for Genesis 9 and 8 Female - Victoria's pose

Spoiler: Victoria will protect her roommate successfully. :)

DAZ Studio Content Load Time – I see no difference HDD vs SSD - WHAT?

Step 1: I copied my 2.7TB DAZ content library to my Crucial X9 4TB Portable SDD drive (1050MB/s).

Step 2: Then I made a quick sample scene:

• V8 HD - https://www.daz3d.com/victoria-8 and https://www.daz3d.com/victoria-8-hd-add-on

• Accents Fall - https://www.daz3d.com/accents-fall-for-genesis-8-females

• Alyssa Ponytail - https://www.daz3d.com/alyssa-ponytail-hair-for-genesis-8-females

• M8 HD - https://www.daz3d.com/michael-8 and https://www.daz3d.com/michael-8-hd-add-on

• MI Autumn Outfit - https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-mi-autumn-outfit-for-genesis-8-males

• Commander Hair - https://www.daz3d.com/commander-hair-for-genesis-3-and-8-male-s

• Urban Sprawl 3 (USBlock02) - https://www.daz3d.com/urban-sprawl-3

• DAZ Default HDRI sky

• DAZ default camera – quantity one

Step 3: I started DAZ Studio and loaded the scene with my current content library on a Seagate Barracuda 4TB 5600RPM hard drive.

Step 4. I re-started DAZ Studio with the content library pointing to my Crucial X9 4TB Portable SDD drive (1050MB/s).

Step 5: Conclusion the SSD did not reduce load time. It seems the delay in load time is caused by internal working of DAZ Studio not your drive's performance. This was a small basic scene. Load times are higher with the bigger scene I work with.

Test Scene

Crucial X9 USB SSD  - 1 min 14 sec

Seagate Barracuda 5600RPM HDD - 1 min 14 sec

M8 HD only

Crucial X9 USB SSD - 12 sec

Seagate Barracuda 5600RPM HDD - 16 sec

V8 HD only

Crucial X9 USB SSD - 19 sec

Seagate Barracuda 5600RPM HDD - 19 sec

One aside point to mention by default the Crucial X9 drive comes formatted as exFAT so that it is compatible with many operating systems. The DAZ content library is filled with MANY small files so when I tried to copy my 2.7TB files to the drive it ran out of space before completing. I talked to Crucial service about it and the only solution was to format as NTFS. So please consider that if you plan to move a lot of small files to a drive that is formatted as exFAT. I am not certain if this is related to how SSD drives allocated space vs how exFAT manages space.

Elor said:

If I understand correctly, if a morph was sculpted at level 3, I need to set the Mesh Resolution of the prop/figure/clothing item for which it was made at 3 too. If I set it below 3, I'll lose details from the morph, and I set it higher than 3, I'm likely vasting memory with the added geometry.

That's correct, you will still see an effect of the HD detail at lower subD, but it wont be the full effect.

But how I'm suppose to know at which level a morph was sculpted ?

Some of them will say the level of HD in the morph name. Otherwise if they dont say which SubD level it was sculpted at, then i think there's no way to know.  Also, since it is jus in the name, the author could be overstating and say it is at SubD4 when in reality all the detail could be captured at SubD1

But loading Victoria 7 HD preset, the Mesh Resolution is set to 3.

I wouldnt read too much into what resolution is set by an HD preset.  SubD3 is a fairly high SubD, perhaps the preset just didnt want to push up the SubD higher to 4 and were leaving that to the user to adjust in parameters.

Victoria 8 HD file are named FBMVictoria8HDLv4.dhdm and FHMVictoria8HDLv4.dhdm but this time Victoria 8 HD loads with a Mesh Resolution set to 4.

Again, wouldnt read too much into that,

Personally I would say just to use your eyeballs and set viewport drawsyle to smooth shaded, look at the screen, and see if increasing SubD higher (in parameters) will change the level of visible detail while an HD morph is dialled in.

Hello,

HD morphs are still a bit of a mistery to me.

If I understand correctly, if a morph was sculpted at level 3, I need to set the Mesh Resolution of the prop/figure/clothing item for which it was made at 3 too. If I set it below 3, I'll lose details from the morph, and I set it higher than 3, I'm likely vasting memory with the added geometry.

But how I'm suppose to know at which level a morph was sculpted ?

With some products, it's in the name of the slider (like CJ Eden who has a HD3 level morph, so with Mesh Resolution set at 3, I'm good I suppose) but with others, I don't have the first clue.

I thought the name of the files could be a good indication, but looking at some HD Addon I bought for Daz characters, I'm not so sure.

Victoria 7 HD file are named FBMVictoria7HDLv4.dhdm and FHMVictoria7HDLv4.dhdm and I suppose Lv4 is for Level 4. But loading Victoria 7 HD preset, the Mesh Resolution is set to 3.

Victoria 8 HD file are named FBMVictoria8HDLv4.dhdm and FHMVictoria8HDLv4.dhdm but this time Victoria 8 HD loads with a Mesh Resolution set to 4.

Both non HD Victoria 7 and 8 will load with a Mesh Resolution of 2 so at least, there is a difference between the non HD and HD version, which is not always the case.

As an example, Arianna 8.1 and Arianna 8.1 HD both have a Mesh Resolution set to 4, which may not be enough to take advantage of either of them:

• Arianna 8.1 have files called MCMArianna8_1Navel_HDLv5.dhdm, MCMArianna8_1Nipples_HDLv5.dhdm and PHMArianna8_1_Iris_HDLv5.dhdm (so level 5 morphs for her navel, nipples and irises ?)
• Arianna 8.1 HD have FBM and FHM morphs called FBMArianna8_1HDLv5.dhdm and FHMArianna8_1HDLv5.dhdm

I also have at least one clothing item which will have different Mesh Resolution levels, depending on which way I loaded it (the Untamed Warrior Shoulders): if I'm using the whole outfit preset, the Shoulders' Mesh Resolution is set to 1. If I'm loading only the Shoulders, their Mesh Resolution is set to 4.

Two other items of the same outfit also have HD version, but all are loaded with Mesh Resolution set to 1, but to make the situation even messier, the legs will only have their HD Morph (called Legs HD) dialed at 100% if loaded independantly: the version from the outfit is loaded with this Legs HD morph set to 0. And this time, none of the file has a Lv[number] in their name.

So…

Is there a way to know at which level an HD morph was sculpted, preferably one that doesn't required rendering each item at a different Mesh Resolution, then scrutining every details to decide if Mesh Resolution N+1 is more detailled than Mesh Resolution N ?

I'm know nothing of DS scripting, so please tell me if this is a nonsense idea.

I want to export HDR output to other applications, but default settings from Iray don't produce usable data.  Image attached.  I can assemble a scene built from Stonemason's Sci-Fi Kit, pop in Gothy Punk Victoria 8 HD, and render an Iray image that looks pretty adequate as a tone-mapped TIFF with an exposure value of 13.  When I bring in the corresponding EXR into Adobe AE, it's not so good.  Everything's way overexposed, and light sources simply overflow into useless NAN's.  Post processing the image to bring levels down still fails to recover meaningful values from the light source pixels.  However, if I seek out everything in the scene that emits light and reduce their luminances (in this case by 10,000), then the EXR pixels fall into a recognizable range, and lowering the exposure value in the tone mapping tab to 0 will give the TIFF image a reasonable appearance, too.

[Edited to re-insert the unexplained disappearing attachment.]

This isn't difficult in a simple scene with a handful of emitters, but a heavy scene with thousands of surfaces to manage becomes unwieldy.  Here's my imaginary script idea.  Please tell me if anything like it exists.  It would go like this.

• I would select the objects in my scene I want processed, most likely all of them.
• I would launch the script.
• The script would have a field where I must enter a floating-point number.
• There would be a checkbox where I could opt to also process the environment intensity.
• I would click the "Go" button.
• The script would search all selected objects to find surfaces with an emission value.
• It would change the luminance of those surfaces, multiplying them by the number I entered.
• It would do the same for all selected light objects,
• and it would change the environment intensity in the same way, if the checkbox was selected.

Such a script would be a colossal time saver for me.  Does anybody know of one?  If there aren't any, is there a scripting guru who can give guidance, or who can put together a basic one?  I bet others besides me could find uses for it.  Any help is appreciated.  Thanks for reading.

Hallelujah!
Disciple

iaunpom said:

Brian&Alicia said:

iaunpom said:

It's a layered composition effect of post render editing. It could be done with a set of shots, I thought about doing it but I haven't dared yet, On the other hand there are many parameters in the camera that I am not clear at all regarding the types of lens and effects, but sometimes I have touched them randomly to see if I understood something but something appreciable did not happen. Perhaps with the correct combined values, the effect will be generated directly in the camera.

ahh ok. i don't do much if any post work. not very good at it. i was hoping you did it through daz, and could tell me more specifically how you managed it. i try to avoid post work as much as possible. till i started taking part in the forums a few months ago, i legit thought post work meant, i thought my work was good enough to POST in the gallery or something. my view WAS post work=posted work lol.  anyhow, thanks for the response and info.

One of my premises is to try to get to the result of the image from a single render. It is a path as it seems to me, when you want to get to that result you try to squeeze all the resources available by the software and those that you can manage with the options of the software and the resources you have, as in my search for the DOF depth map. But sometimes you have to think I suppose, as in this example, if you are using paint to paint a picture, will you not use varnish after painting, because it is not paint?, or as in the past, will you not use paint of another type, because you think that oil makes better colors or gives more prestige, or will you look for the most expensive pigment that gives you that differential touch?

Well, I have rambled for a while and yes, I share the opinion that one of the most relevant things is to be able to make the image, work, illustration, etc., as you want with the tools with which you are most comfortable and give you that possibility. Currently I don't have knowledge of how to achieve that same effect or resemblance with DAZ's camera parameters, do you know if it's possible?

Greetings and good luck

i was told it is, when someone made the suggestion of it being added to one of my renders. he gave me a small explination on how. but i was never able to get it working. he said the options are in the blades options on the camera. i imagine it's not hard to do. it's just a matter of figuring out what brushes will do it. sadly my hands are too shaky to free hand it even though, i know how.  being i can't find daz3d version 1.74 to download and use no more. i decided to finally learn the "new" daz once and for all... "new" meaning, anything newer then the 20 year old 1.74 version. when daz made so many changes to how it worked. that nothing worked the same no more.  for years all i would play with was like victoria 3 & 4 era daz. but then daz stopped supporting it, and i started downloading it through torrents. then it fadded away from even there. so maybe 3-4 years ago now. i decided to give into daz's new way of doing the lighting, and other things. the layout, the library. all of it. so i'm still very much in the learning stages, and alway looking to maybe pick up new tricks. sadly i have issues learning from tutorials and stuff. i tend to learn better from talking to people. 
and don't feel bad. i'm an over explainer too. i mean i'm really bad... let me explain lol XD

I think @DustRider has a great post.  See that.  For what it is worth, here is my personal experience.

My use of 3D stuff as a hobby goes back to the Millenium man and Millenium woman, Victoria and Michael 1, when they were used in Poser.  But I did not use it very much at first.  I became a frequent forum participant during 2011-2022.  My participation has dropped off a lot.  I have always found the forums to be a great resource for getting peer-to-peer help.  This was so important because documentation for the programs owned by Daz3D was often either out of date, or non-existent.  And in return I tried to share my experiences, and answer questions if possible. 

Administration of the forum, and role of Mods.  On the whole, the mods have been fine.  I thank them for their dedication, and for putting up with people like me.  I have certainly had plenty of my posts deleted and threads locked.  And I have been frustrated occasionally when my response to a post got deleted but the post that triggered me did not (perhaps it was misleading in my view).  If I was in charge, I would have done it differently.  But just as often, when I look in hindsight, I agree with the mods and would have deleted my post also.  That is life.  It is OK.  Thank you, mods.

Reasons for my diminished participation in the forums.  My participation in the forums has diminished as I have migrated (gradually) away from Daz3D programs.  Around 2012 or so, Daz3D made the choice to direct its resources to Daz Studio, a model manipulator and renderer, instead of Carrara, a full service 3D program.  Yes, I made the effort to learn Daz Studio because Iray was a superior renderer for stills.  This was 2016-2020, or so.  But as I predicted, sending me to Blender and other programs to get the functionality of Carrara would ultimately result in my using Blender for some of the functionality of Daz Studio.  So I use Daz Studio (and Carrara) as a step in a workflow that is now primarily in some other program, sometimes but not always Blender. But I still use all the tools in my toolbox, even the older ones, if they will accomplish my task.  I still check in the forums to get help, or give help, but far less frequently.

Forum tone.  I have always been thankful for the participants in the forums.  Special shout out to Wendy.  The peer-to-peer help has always been so generous.  The quality of help is attested to by the number of forum participants who became PAs. Simply amazing.  I have no problem with the overall tone.

Cheers everyone.

The skin is from Victoria 8.1, which is also used in the free Genesis 9 materials.

NylonGirl said:

Faeryl Womyn said:

I never said anyone broke any rules, so don't put words in my mouth that I never stated.

Since I made that first post comments have only been about my saying the thread should be closed, not one comment about the suggestions I made...interesting.

For me, it's not so much a suggestion that the thread be closed that bothers me, but anything that would suppress discussion. I have had an incident in which I had a fairly significant issue with a product purchased in the store. I was told I was using the product wrong and basically called an idiot, and then the thread was locked. Well I was not using the product wrong. It just had exactly the issue I said it had. And locking the thread not only left the issue unresolved but the last comment in the thread was the part about me not knowing what I'm doing, and there was no way for me to defend myself. So I felt like closing threads was used as a bit of a weapon, and that makes me a bit sensitive to suggestions that a thread should be closed because there is some negative sentiment about DAZ.

I believe that was the moment I switched from DAZ to Poser. This was during the Victoria 4 era. I eventually came back when I learned DAZ had a built-in ray tracer and I didn't have to sort out how to get Luxrender working anymore. But I continue to see other people complaining about things and getting their posts deleted and threads locked.

I wasn't suppressing discussion, if taken that way then for that part I appoligize. As for you having a complaint and how it was dealt with, I've seen similar over the years, even now. These days they advise going to the product forum where one can find answers. That actually seems smart to me. As for what Richard said about closing threads due to accusations or multiple threads of the same thing, I agree with him. Accusations don't speed up the help and in fact delay it.  Multiple threads just clutters up the forum. One thing not mentioned by Richard is when threads get taken over with other topics not related to the original post,
I've had my own problems with Daz (and Richard) for deleted posts and threads that I didn't agree with, in most cases you will get an email when that happens. I've been on the forums a long time, seen the different moods based on what was being posted. My worst experience with Daz was when I first started with the program, I needed help as I was learning, problem was some were more into accussing me of being an idiot, I have no business being here and I should give up on 3D. Fortunately I'm stubborn and very outspoken, then found a different place not on Daz to get help. When I came back, the mood had changed, people were actually helping others new to the program. That's one thing you can count on with the forums, no matter what the mood it, wait 6 months to a year and it'll change.

hello, Does anyone know what character this is? Material or Morph?

Tattoos are not part of the material

She has two spots on her face, one on her chin and one between her cheek and nose

She looks like a Raiya model RY Adeline for Victoria 8 | Daz 3D

All Howl The Lycan

I'm just a Daz+ member so don't have access to the female version though you do get female elements. Used Victoria 9 skin/body altered hips and breats then morphed the Lycan form in and other Lycan elements the wolfs are the Dire Wolfs used some of the other dog breeds/expresions to them gave one a kinda weird mouth but think that adds to the monster aspect of the wolves

This is the base Victoria 9 full render. I have no idea why this is happening

NylonGirl said:

Faeryl Womyn said:

I never said anyone broke any rules, so don't put words in my mouth that I never stated.

Since I made that first post comments have only been about my saying the thread should be closed, not one comment about the suggestions I made...interesting.

For me, it's not so much a suggestion that the thread be closed that bothers me, but anything that would suppress discussion. I have had an incident in which I had a fairly significant issue with a product purchased in the store. I was told I was using the product wrong and basically called an idiot, and then the thread was locked. Well I was not using the product wrong. It just had exactly the issue I said it had. And locking the thread not only left the issue unresolved but the last comment in the thread was the part about me not knowing what I'm doing, and there was no way for me to defend myself. So I felt like closing threads was used as a bit of a weapon, and that makes me a bit sensitive to suggestions that a thread should be closed because there is some negative sentiment about DAZ.

I believe that was the moment I switched from DAZ to Poser. This was during the Victoria 4 era. I eventually came back when I learned DAZ had a built-in ray tracer and I didn't have to sort out how to get Luxrender working anymore. But I continue to see other people complaining about things and getting their posts deleted and threads locked.

Threads are not locked nor posts removed for complaining - possibly for complaints that turn into accusations, but not for complaining and certainly not for reporting issues (though if there are multiple threads on the same issue we may lock or consolidate them).

Unfortunately I cannot recall the occasion you meantion, and presumably it was on the old forum and so not available for checking (I certainly can't see any locked threads, other than an iteration of the Complaint thread, in your current history).

Faeryl Womyn said:

I never said anyone broke any rules, so don't put words in my mouth that I never stated.

Since I made that first post comments have only been about my saying the thread should be closed, not one comment about the suggestions I made...interesting.

For me, it's not so much a suggestion that the thread be closed that bothers me, but anything that would suppress discussion. I have had an incident in which I had a fairly significant issue with a product purchased in the store. I was told I was using the product wrong and basically called an idiot, and then the thread was locked. Well I was not using the product wrong. It just had exactly the issue I said it had. And locking the thread not only left the issue unresolved but the last comment in the thread was the part about me not knowing what I'm doing, and there was no way for me to defend myself. So I felt like closing threads was used as a bit of a weapon, and that makes me a bit sensitive to suggestions that a thread should be closed because there is some negative sentiment about DAZ.

I believe that was the moment I switched from DAZ to Poser. This was during the Victoria 4 era. I eventually came back when I learned DAZ had a built-in ray tracer and I didn't have to sort out how to get Luxrender working anymore. But I continue to see other people complaining about things and getting their posts deleted and threads locked.

And this is the base Victoria 9? Those look to be previews, does the effect go away with a full render?

TesseractSpace said:

TriCounter said:

XiousDs said:

Ghosty12 said:

Just seen Lycan 9 looked interesting, that is until I read that the female Lycan 9 shape is locked behind premier. So any thought of getting anything Lycan 9 has gone straight out the window.

 

 

Did Victoria 9 provide a specific male version for it? Did Michael 9 provide a specific female version for it? No, but you could super easily make the opposite gender for them by just dialing in the opposite gender shape.

Later we got daz customized opposite genders for the models. With gen 9 you can put boobs and gens on any model, so I think you might be over reacting. The female shape is literally a convenience feature for premier rather than a requirement, unlike Aiko 9. I would dare say, though, you can pretty much replicate Aiko 9 via the toon essentials and some time so even that is probably more of a convenience feature too.

While I do get the sentiment behind your post and agree....the pedant in me needs to post the links below ;)

 https://www.daz3d.com/victoria-9-hd-masculine-add-on

https://www.daz3d.com/michael-9-hd-feminine-shape-add-on

He did note the later release of the opposite-gender add-ons.

TriCounter said:

XiousDs said:

Ghosty12 said:

Just seen Lycan 9 looked interesting, that is until I read that the female Lycan 9 shape is locked behind premier. So any thought of getting anything Lycan 9 has gone straight out the window.

 

 

Did Victoria 9 provide a specific male version for it? Did Michael 9 provide a specific female version for it? No, but you could super easily make the opposite gender for them by just dialing in the opposite gender shape.

Later we got daz customized opposite genders for the models. With gen 9 you can put boobs and gens on any model, so I think you might be over reacting. The female shape is literally a convenience feature for premier rather than a requirement, unlike Aiko 9. I would dare say, though, you can pretty much replicate Aiko 9 via the toon essentials and some time so even that is probably more of a convenience feature too.

While I do get the sentiment behind your post and agree....the pedant in me needs to post the links below ;)

 https://www.daz3d.com/victoria-9-hd-masculine-add-on

https://www.daz3d.com/michael-9-hd-feminine-shape-add-on

He did note the later release of the opposite-gender add-ons.