Some more supermodel bodies:

Christy Turlington 

Naomi Campbell

Cindy Crawford

One fairly recurring feature you may notice with supermodels: the transitions in the area going from the neck down the shoulders to the arms are generally very defined. Their shoulders are almost perfectly horizontal, and the transitions between these three areas are almost angular. Compare this area with, for example, an athlete, then you'll quickly notice the more developed muscle behind the collarbone (I believe it's the Trapezius), which (optically) shortens the neck and softens the contours.

What a great observation.  Yes, I see that; clearly defined "vertically oriented" neck lines, with de-emphasized trapezius muscles and/or de-emphasized anterior neck tendons.  Combined with level, equidistant shoulders, and horizontally-oriented shoulder lines.  Very observant.

Some work better than others.  It kind of depends on what your project is.  Victoria would be a good 1970s supermodel.  Some are the GND type of supermodel and some are more severe.  Here are a few suggestions.

https://www.daz3d.com/kerry-hd-for-victoria-7

https://www.daz3d.com/fwsa-zurie-hd-for-zelara-8 (Not the alien skin lol)

https://www.daz3d.com/sc-chloe-for-genesis-8-female (If you're looking for bustier)

https://www.daz3d.com/marigold-for-victoria-8

https://www.daz3d.com/kande-and-musoke-for-genesis-3-and-8-female

https://www.daz3d.com/bd-roula-for-victoria-8

https://www.daz3d.com/botan-hd-for-genesis-8-female

https://www.daz3d.com/virginia-hd-for-genesis-8-female

https://www.daz3d.com/sahel-hd-signature-smile-hd-expression-for-genesis-8-female

Thank you!  I wasn't familiar with any of these characters.  SC Chloe looks pretty close to what I had in mind (with reduced bust).  I'm looking at a photo of Claudia Schiffer standing straight, in a bathing suit, which I can't link to because it's on Pinterest - but she has a strangely elongated body, and a smaller than normal head. 

Claudia also has a strabismus, as do Heidi Klum and Kate Moss. along with a few other icons of female beauty like Penelope Cruz.  On the one hand, it's a little unsettling, but it also adds to their character.  Every supermodel has something that makes her stand out, and is the reason she's not just another department store flyer model.  If you're doing supermodels, it's worth keeping in mind.

I doubt they actually have strabismus, having had a cousin that actually has it & seen the behavior of his eyes 1st hand. What people are noticing is normal asymmetry and normal eye dominance. Those are present in everyone but, well, much to the relieve of the general public (and myself really), I don't get the gawking and dropped jaws Heidi Klum, Claudia Schiffer, and those types get, such that every nuance of their asymmetry is noticed and remarked upon in public.

Yes, there is "normal asymmetry" and then there is strabismus.

Take any female figure, dial down her boobs and dial in some emaciated and maybe a little leg length. And bob's your uncle, you got a "supermodel".

This seems about right. I would add: enhance her cheek bones, lengthen her neck, and set her eyes slightly wider apart to make her look just a little alien.

 

I work in the fashion industry. I have little to do with models, but I do have a little bit of knowledge on the subject, for what it's worth.
(I only skimmed the thread, I hope I don't make too many points that have already been made...)

- It's worth mentioning that runway models have a different build than underwear/swimsuit models. The latter tend to have curves, the former tend to have a spindly build.

- You seem to differenciate between "supermodels" and "no-name models". Some models certainly are much more fameous than others, but the difference has little to do with their build. Just like a famous popstar isn't necessarily a better vocalist than a struggling singer. A lot of different things factor into fame: talent, luck, nepotism, "that certain something", etc. All fashion models, "super" or otherwise, have similar builds. When preparing for the runway the fashion houses make their entire collection in only one size and all runway models need to be able to wear that.

I will add to this that in every industry, in every line of work, and at every skill or experience level, there are people who are not in the proper role.  Some should be working at a higher level.  Many are in a higher level than their skills deserve.  So in addition to "talant, luck, nepotism", there is also "who you know", and it does not take that many people in positions of power or authority to change the culture.  If the power brokers at just 3 or 4 fashion houses decided to fire all thin-n-talls and hire only 4 foot 150 pounders, it would take less than a generation for all of the other fashion houses to do the same thing.

How do you think they got today's "reality TV" to include people voting each other off an island, trying to prove themselves at ballroom dancing or mining for gold or marrying complete strangers on first sight, or to convince people to live in a big fake house with roommates having nothing in common and cameras in every room?

All it took was a few people to fund a couple of endeavors, and then a few more the next year, and the next year and the year after that.  Before I knew it, "Bridezilla" was not just a cultural term, it was a thing you could tune into and pay for in your cable bill.

- Someone mentioned Marilyn Monroe. She did work as a model but that was more than half a century ago. Her build is nothing like what a fashion model in 2019 would look like.

This is absolutely true.

Some work better than others.  It kind of depends on what your project is.  Victoria would be a good 1970s supermodel.  Some are the GND type of supermodel and some are more severe.  Here are a few suggestions.

https://www.daz3d.com/kerry-hd-for-victoria-7

https://www.daz3d.com/fwsa-zurie-hd-for-zelara-8 (Not the alien skin lol)

https://www.daz3d.com/sc-chloe-for-genesis-8-female (If you're looking for bustier)

https://www.daz3d.com/marigold-for-victoria-8

https://www.daz3d.com/kande-and-musoke-for-genesis-3-and-8-female

https://www.daz3d.com/bd-roula-for-victoria-8

https://www.daz3d.com/botan-hd-for-genesis-8-female

https://www.daz3d.com/virginia-hd-for-genesis-8-female

https://www.daz3d.com/sahel-hd-signature-smile-hd-expression-for-genesis-8-female

Thank you!  I wasn't familiar with any of these characters.  SC Chloe looks pretty close to what I had in mind (with reduced bust).  I'm looking at a photo of Claudia Schiffer standing straight, in a bathing suit, which I can't link to because it's on Pinterest - but she has a strangely elongated body, and a smaller than normal head. 

Claudia also has a strabismus, as do Heidi Klum and Kate Moss. along with a few other icons of female beauty like Penelope Cruz.  On the one hand, it's a little unsettling, but it also adds to their character.  Every supermodel has something that makes her stand out, and is the reason she's not just another department store flyer model.  If you're doing supermodels, it's worth keeping in mind.

I doubt they actually have strabismus, having had a cousin that actually has it & seen the behavior of his eyes 1st hand. What people are noticing is normal asymmetry and normal eye dominance. Those are present in everyone but, well, much to the relieve of the general public (and myself really), I don't get the gawking and dropped jaws Heidi Klum, Claudia Schiffer, and those types get, such that every nuance of their asymmetry is noticed and remarked upon in public.

Don't you get double vision if the eyes are statically asymmetric? 

So I have some experience in this area.  I have a strabismus, which is a mis-aiming of the eye due to muscle or tendon vagaries.  As far as I know, my skull is mostly symmetrical and my eyes are on the same horizontal plane and are equidistant from my nose.  I have a slight astigmatism, but not in the eye that strays. 

For the aiming thing, I did have corrective surgery for it over 45 years ago.  Before that, my left eye was almost permanently aimed maybe 15-20 degrees to the right.  I don't remember having vision problems when I was a kid.  I had no trouble riding a bike and I don't remember ever having difficulty catching, throwing, or avoiding getting hit in the head with a ball, frisbee, or squirt-guns.  Today, my left eye (the one I had surgery on) mostly tracks with my right eye except for when I am tired.  That's when I can feel my left eye drifting to the right and then I do see double until my brain compensates. 

I think the compensation is mostly that the brain defines the "correct view" as the image that mostly lines up with where the face is pointing, and learns to ignore the "incorrect" view.  Now, if there were vision problems with my right eye (or maybe an injury, etc), then maybe my brain would have ignored that one in favor of the off-alignment eye.  That would have been bad, I'm certain of it.

I'm convinced that the brain figures out how to separate and ignore certain things, and here are a few examples:

I wear bifocal glasses now.  I also wear contacts.  One is distance, the other is close-up.  For extended reading or fine detail work of any length, I still wear readers or even a pair of magnefiers.  But for most things, my brain figures out how I need to see and I don't need to make a conscious decision which eye to use.

Shooting a gun properly:  This one is very interesting.  If I'm shooting without the aid of a laser (that is to say, using the sights, not just "point-shooting"), then I need to be able to see my front sight.  Anybody shooting without seeing their front sight probably can't hit the broad side of a barn, and that's no joke.  As you might guess, the front sight, being on the end of the barrel, is seeable by one eye or the other depending on the length of the barrel and the length of my outstretched arm.  So if I'm shooting a handgun with a 2 to 4 inch barrel, I'll use my close-up eye.  Yes, this is the correct way to shoot a handgun. 

If I'm shooting a very long-barrelled handgun, a carbine, or a rifle, then the sight will be farther away and I'll automatically use my distance eye.  If I'm using my laser, then I'll use my distance eye, and of course I have a better aim with my laser, especially the big bright green one that can be seen plainly at night or during full daylight.  With a handgun, I shoot equally well with both hands (because I train that way).  No matter how I shoot, the brain automatically compensates, even considering that I have one eye that sometimes moves to the right and I'm wearing two different contact lenses! 

The brain really does figure things out pretty well.  If I'm looking at a scene IRL, let's say a fountain in full sunlight, my brain does not get confused by all the reflection and refraction going on in the scene.  But there's no doubt that there is a LOT of reflection and refraction going on, which might very well be visible and even distracting if I took a picture of the scene and showed to to somebody who has never seen that scene in real life.  Their brain now has to translate all these things from a picture with very little of the context that was available to my brain when I was standing in front of the fountain with my camera.

As for the eye-aming thing, I really only get into trouble when I overthink things and ignore that silent part of my brain that already knows how to do those things.  Or if I get a weeper in the eye that my brain really needs at that moment in time. 

Some work better than others.  It kind of depends on what your project is.  Victoria would be a good 1970s supermodel.  Some are the GND type of supermodel and some are more severe.  Here are a few suggestions.

https://www.daz3d.com/kerry-hd-for-victoria-7

https://www.daz3d.com/fwsa-zurie-hd-for-zelara-8 (Not the alien skin lol)

https://www.daz3d.com/sc-chloe-for-genesis-8-female (If you're looking for bustier)

https://www.daz3d.com/marigold-for-victoria-8

https://www.daz3d.com/kande-and-musoke-for-genesis-3-and-8-female

https://www.daz3d.com/bd-roula-for-victoria-8

https://www.daz3d.com/botan-hd-for-genesis-8-female

https://www.daz3d.com/virginia-hd-for-genesis-8-female

https://www.daz3d.com/sahel-hd-signature-smile-hd-expression-for-genesis-8-female

Thank you!  I wasn't familiar with any of these characters.  SC Chloe looks pretty close to what I had in mind (with reduced bust).  I'm looking at a photo of Claudia Schiffer standing straight, in a bathing suit, which I can't link to because it's on Pinterest - but she has a strangely elongated body, and a smaller than normal head. 

Claudia also has a strabismus, as do Heidi Klum and Kate Moss. along with a few other icons of female beauty like Penelope Cruz.  On the one hand, it's a little unsettling, but it also adds to their character.  Every supermodel has something that makes her stand out, and is the reason she's not just another department store flyer model.  If you're doing supermodels, it's worth keeping in mind.

I doubt they actually have strabismus, having had a cousin that actually has it & seen the behavior of his eyes 1st hand. What people are noticing is normal asymmetry and normal eye dominance. Those are present in everyone but, well, much to the relieve of the general public (and myself really), I don't get the gawking and dropped jaws Heidi Klum, Claudia Schiffer, and those types get, such that every nuance of their asymmetry is noticed and remarked upon in public.

Don't you get double vision if the eyes are statically asymmetric? 

Not usually.  It's a neurological abnormality rather than a physical one.  Some people have surgery to look more "normal", but most of the time, their brains turn the eyes back to their original orientation.

Some work better than others.  It kind of depends on what your project is.  Victoria would be a good 1970s supermodel.  Some are the GND type of supermodel and some are more severe.  Here are a few suggestions.

https://www.daz3d.com/kerry-hd-for-victoria-7

https://www.daz3d.com/fwsa-zurie-hd-for-zelara-8 (Not the alien skin lol)

https://www.daz3d.com/sc-chloe-for-genesis-8-female (If you're looking for bustier)

https://www.daz3d.com/marigold-for-victoria-8

https://www.daz3d.com/kande-and-musoke-for-genesis-3-and-8-female

https://www.daz3d.com/bd-roula-for-victoria-8

https://www.daz3d.com/botan-hd-for-genesis-8-female

https://www.daz3d.com/virginia-hd-for-genesis-8-female

https://www.daz3d.com/sahel-hd-signature-smile-hd-expression-for-genesis-8-female

Thank you!  I wasn't familiar with any of these characters.  SC Chloe looks pretty close to what I had in mind (with reduced bust).  I'm looking at a photo of Claudia Schiffer standing straight, in a bathing suit, which I can't link to because it's on Pinterest - but she has a strangely elongated body, and a smaller than normal head. 

Claudia also has a strabismus, as do Heidi Klum and Kate Moss. along with a few other icons of female beauty like Penelope Cruz.  On the one hand, it's a little unsettling, but it also adds to their character.  Every supermodel has something that makes her stand out, and is the reason she's not just another department store flyer model.  If you're doing supermodels, it's worth keeping in mind.

I doubt they actually have strabismus, having had a cousin that actually has it & seen the behavior of his eyes 1st hand. What people are noticing is normal asymmetry and normal eye dominance. Those are present in everyone but, well, much to the relieve of the general public (and myself really), I don't get the gawking and dropped jaws Heidi Klum, Claudia Schiffer, and those types get, such that every nuance of their asymmetry is noticed and remarked upon in public.

Don't you get double vision if the eyes are statically asymmetric? 

Some work better than others.  It kind of depends on what your project is.  Victoria would be a good 1970s supermodel.  Some are the GND type of supermodel and some are more severe.  Here are a few suggestions.

https://www.daz3d.com/kerry-hd-for-victoria-7

https://www.daz3d.com/fwsa-zurie-hd-for-zelara-8 (Not the alien skin lol)

https://www.daz3d.com/sc-chloe-for-genesis-8-female (If you're looking for bustier)

https://www.daz3d.com/marigold-for-victoria-8

https://www.daz3d.com/kande-and-musoke-for-genesis-3-and-8-female

https://www.daz3d.com/bd-roula-for-victoria-8

https://www.daz3d.com/botan-hd-for-genesis-8-female

https://www.daz3d.com/virginia-hd-for-genesis-8-female

https://www.daz3d.com/sahel-hd-signature-smile-hd-expression-for-genesis-8-female

Thank you!  I wasn't familiar with any of these characters.  SC Chloe looks pretty close to what I had in mind (with reduced bust).  I'm looking at a photo of Claudia Schiffer standing straight, in a bathing suit, which I can't link to because it's on Pinterest - but she has a strangely elongated body, and a smaller than normal head. 

Claudia also has a strabismus, as do Heidi Klum and Kate Moss. along with a few other icons of female beauty like Penelope Cruz.  On the one hand, it's a little unsettling, but it also adds to their character.  Every supermodel has something that makes her stand out, and is the reason she's not just another department store flyer model.  If you're doing supermodels, it's worth keeping in mind.

I doubt they actually have strabismus, having had a cousin that actually has it & seen the behavior of his eyes 1st hand. What people are noticing is normal asymmetry and normal eye dominance. Those are present in everyone but, well, much to the relieve of the general public (and myself really), I don't get the gawking and dropped jaws Heidi Klum, Claudia Schiffer, and those types get, such that every nuance of their asymmetry is noticed and remarked upon in public.

Some work better than others.  It kind of depends on what your project is.  Victoria would be a good 1970s supermodel.  Some are the GND type of supermodel and some are more severe.  Here are a few suggestions.

https://www.daz3d.com/kerry-hd-for-victoria-7

https://www.daz3d.com/fwsa-zurie-hd-for-zelara-8 (Not the alien skin lol)

https://www.daz3d.com/sc-chloe-for-genesis-8-female (If you're looking for bustier)

https://www.daz3d.com/marigold-for-victoria-8

https://www.daz3d.com/kande-and-musoke-for-genesis-3-and-8-female

https://www.daz3d.com/bd-roula-for-victoria-8

https://www.daz3d.com/botan-hd-for-genesis-8-female

https://www.daz3d.com/virginia-hd-for-genesis-8-female

https://www.daz3d.com/sahel-hd-signature-smile-hd-expression-for-genesis-8-female

Thank you!  I wasn't familiar with any of these characters.  SC Chloe looks pretty close to what I had in mind (with reduced bust).  I'm looking at a photo of Claudia Schiffer standing straight, in a bathing suit, which I can't link to because it's on Pinterest - but she has a strangely elongated body, and a smaller than normal head. 

Checkout SC Karen at Renderosity...
S.

This lass has real supermodel proportions: https://www.daz3d.com/glamorous-vicki-set-for-victoria-3-0

Shame it's a V3 based figure with all the joint limitations therein, but works without V3. She has chest size morphs based on bra sizes, AA to D, which I do think is a sensible idea that would benefit all subsequent iterations.

Regards,

Richard

I keep wondering when they will lower the price on that and the bundle it can also be contained in.

Does seem odd that the price is currently so high, I agree. Especially given the limitations of V3's joint movements. Got her in 2005, and rediscovered her when I restarted in March. For limited, standing poses with straight-ish limbs, she still holds her own against G8F.

This lass has real supermodel proportions: https://www.daz3d.com/glamorous-vicki-set-for-victoria-3-0

Shame it's a V3 based figure with all the joint limitations therein, but works without V3. She has chest size morphs based on bra sizes, AA to D, which I do think is a sensible idea that would benefit all subsequent iterations.

Regards,

Richard

I keep wondering when they will lower the price on that and the bundle it can also be contained in.

Some work better than others.  It kind of depends on what your project is.  Victoria would be a good 1970s supermodel.  Some are the GND type of supermodel and some are more severe.  Here are a few suggestions.

https://www.daz3d.com/kerry-hd-for-victoria-7

https://www.daz3d.com/fwsa-zurie-hd-for-zelara-8 (Not the alien skin lol)

https://www.daz3d.com/sc-chloe-for-genesis-8-female (If you're looking for bustier)

https://www.daz3d.com/marigold-for-victoria-8

https://www.daz3d.com/kande-and-musoke-for-genesis-3-and-8-female

https://www.daz3d.com/bd-roula-for-victoria-8

https://www.daz3d.com/botan-hd-for-genesis-8-female

https://www.daz3d.com/virginia-hd-for-genesis-8-female

https://www.daz3d.com/sahel-hd-signature-smile-hd-expression-for-genesis-8-female

Very nice list. Not sure I've seen any of these figures before.

Your best chances at "ideal" shapes would be with the Victoria 4 and Genesis 3 figures, Victoria 4 being the more stylized and glamourous variation, but with her it'll be a hassle to get her textured to iRay. Genesis 3 is also fairly idealized, and generally ready for iRay rendering, but not as stylized as V4.

For G3 specifically, I'd suggest Lilith 7 as a starting point. Skip the horror/goth/emo make-ups, and you have your regular supermodel.

have to disagree, lilith is way to big/fat/whatever for a supermodel type in general

Your best chances at "ideal" shapes would be with the Victoria 4 and Genesis 3 figures, Victoria 4 being the more stylized and glamourous variation, but with her it'll be a hassle to get her textured to iRay. Genesis 3 is also fairly idealized, and generally ready for iRay rendering, but not as stylized as V4.

For G3 specifically, I'd suggest Lilith 7 as a starting point. Skip the horror/goth/emo make-ups, and you have your regular supermodel.

This lass has real supermodel proportions: https://www.daz3d.com/glamorous-vicki-set-for-victoria-3-0

Shame it's a V3 based figure with all the joint limitations therein, but works without V3. She has chest size morphs based on bra sizes, AA to D, which I do think is a sensible idea that would benefit all subsequent iterations.

Regards,

Richard

Yeah, looks like that's what they did.  Only 2 G8 males in there now but plenty of G8 females to pick from. Grrrr.... 

At this time, there are seven G8M bundles listed:

• Floyd 8 Starter Bundle
• Ollie 8 Starter Bundle
• Edward 8 Starter Bundle
• Owen 8 Starter Bundle
• Darius 8 Starter Bundle
• Lucas 8 Starter Bundle
• Michael 8 Starter Bundle

 And 13 G8F bundles:

• Mika 8 Starter Bundle
• Edie 8 Starter Bundle
• Penny 8 Starter Bundle
• Aiko 8 Starter Bundle
• Alexandra 8 Starter Bundle
• Karyssa 8 Starter Bundle
• Sakura 8 Starter Bundle
• Charlotte 8 Starter Bundle
• Monique 8 Starter Bundle
• Stephanie 8 Starter Bundle
• Teen Josie 8 Starter Bundle
• Olympia 8 Starter Bundle
• Victoria 8 Starter Bundle

I didn't screencap the page, so I can't say who is gone now, but I got Kala 8 Starter Bundle shortly after Daz Midnight. And it took me a while to decide between Kala 8 and Ellithia 8.

I suspect the list originally included Starter Bundles for any base figure that was no longer "New", (released more than 60 days ago.) As the newest bundles in there now are from May'18, it looks like a filter was added to exclude anything newer than 15 month, (or maybe, 450 days.)
 

More information is needed to figure out what you are trying to do. Are you trying to blast fire out his mouth:

https://www.daz3d.com/power-blast-props-for-victoria-7-and-8-and-michael-7-and-8

Or do you want him to be surrounded in fire:

https://www.daz3d.com/iray-fireworx

Maybe just the background as fire:

https://www.daz3d.com/enchanted-jungle-backgrounds-2

I'm a pyromanic myself. Got the first two products the day they were released. Anyhow, more stuff exist outsite of Daz store and some of it free. Take this for example as its free.

https://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/morphing-flame-for-iray---100-free/76201

Some work better than others.  It kind of depends on what your project is.  Victoria would be a good 1970s supermodel.  Some are the GND type of supermodel and some are more severe.  Here are a few suggestions.

https://www.daz3d.com/kerry-hd-for-victoria-7

https://www.daz3d.com/fwsa-zurie-hd-for-zelara-8 (Not the alien skin lol)

https://www.daz3d.com/sc-chloe-for-genesis-8-female (If you're looking for bustier)

https://www.daz3d.com/marigold-for-victoria-8

https://www.daz3d.com/kande-and-musoke-for-genesis-3-and-8-female

https://www.daz3d.com/bd-roula-for-victoria-8

https://www.daz3d.com/botan-hd-for-genesis-8-female

https://www.daz3d.com/virginia-hd-for-genesis-8-female

https://www.daz3d.com/sahel-hd-signature-smile-hd-expression-for-genesis-8-female

Thank you!  I wasn't familiar with any of these characters.  SC Chloe looks pretty close to what I had in mind (with reduced bust).  I'm looking at a photo of Claudia Schiffer standing straight, in a bathing suit, which I can't link to because it's on Pinterest - but she has a strangely elongated body, and a smaller than normal head. 

Claudia also has a strabismus, as do Heidi Klum and Kate Moss. along with a few other icons of female beauty like Penelope Cruz.  On the one hand, it's a little unsettling, but it also adds to their character.  Every supermodel has something that makes her stand out, and is the reason she's not just another department store flyer model.  If you're doing supermodels, it's worth keeping in mind.

Some work better than others.  It kind of depends on what your project is.  Victoria would be a good 1970s supermodel.  Some are the GND type of supermodel and some are more severe.  Here are a few suggestions.

https://www.daz3d.com/kerry-hd-for-victoria-7

https://www.daz3d.com/fwsa-zurie-hd-for-zelara-8 (Not the alien skin lol)

https://www.daz3d.com/sc-chloe-for-genesis-8-female (If you're looking for bustier)

https://www.daz3d.com/marigold-for-victoria-8

https://www.daz3d.com/kande-and-musoke-for-genesis-3-and-8-female

https://www.daz3d.com/bd-roula-for-victoria-8

https://www.daz3d.com/botan-hd-for-genesis-8-female

https://www.daz3d.com/virginia-hd-for-genesis-8-female

https://www.daz3d.com/sahel-hd-signature-smile-hd-expression-for-genesis-8-female

Thank you!  I wasn't familiar with any of these characters.  SC Chloe looks pretty close to what I had in mind (with reduced bust).  I'm looking at a photo of Claudia Schiffer standing straight, in a bathing suit, which I can't link to because it's on Pinterest - but she has a strangely elongated body, and a smaller than normal head. 

I have Victoria 8, Edie 8 and Vladimir 8 - not a single coupon, though.  I'm not bothered, really, but it's illustrative of who's not getting coupons :-)

To be fair, you kind of have to go out of your way nowadays not to have Victoria 8.

I have Victoria 8, Edie 8 and Vladimir 8 - not a single coupon, though.  I'm not bothered, really, but it's illustrative of who's not getting coupons :-)

You know, it wasn't all that long ago, Daz didn't offer any free products for buying the newly released Base Figures… I've gotten some excellent deals in the past—buying the female and getting a big additional discount on her counterpart; Teen Ryan pro bundle for under $6, (you read that right;) additional discounts for having bought X number of same generation pro bundles, and so on—but I really don't recall seeing massive amounts of free content just for buying a heavily discounted pro bundle until G8. I'll bet @MelanieL could look through her archived Daz emails, and even tell us exactly which G8 started the trend. (Of course, she could also find evidence of "buy this pro bundle and get [something] for free" from before G8, too. If there are any, and if she wants to work that hard. lol)

I, too, would prefer to see the $100 of related products be from a single category. However, between the two coupons for free stuff, and the five categories, I managed to find enough free things to keep me happy.

On the flip side, I made a significant dent in the Store Credit I had set aside for the upcoming, end-of-the-year sales events.

But it's new male release! How could I resist?

Well, since you ask.....

Victoria 8 seems to have been the first to offer free bundles (in her case the V5/V6/V7 Pro Bundles) - before that I can only spot offers of x% off a shortlist of DO's with purchase. That marketing ploy (getting earlier Pro Bundles of the same name character) continued through 2017 - where there was no same-name older bundle there was generally a choice of any a certain number of bundles (not necessarily Pro Bundles) from a shortlist. Sometimes you got a larger number of freebie items depending on how many add-ons were bought, other times it was a fixed number.

The Girl 8 seems to be the first to offer $xx of free products, but this approach was intermittent through the 2018 releases (some reverted to the specific number of bundles, or even just a selection of items at a cheap price), but it seems to have become the norm in all the 2019 releases so far.

Some work better than others.  It kind of depends on what your project is.  Victoria would be a good 1970s supermodel.  Some are the GND type of supermodel and some are more severe.  Here are a few suggestions.

https://www.daz3d.com/kerry-hd-for-victoria-7

https://www.daz3d.com/fwsa-zurie-hd-for-zelara-8 (Not the alien skin lol)

https://www.daz3d.com/sc-chloe-for-genesis-8-female (If you're looking for bustier)

https://www.daz3d.com/marigold-for-victoria-8

https://www.daz3d.com/kande-and-musoke-for-genesis-3-and-8-female

https://www.daz3d.com/bd-roula-for-victoria-8

https://www.daz3d.com/botan-hd-for-genesis-8-female

https://www.daz3d.com/virginia-hd-for-genesis-8-female

https://www.daz3d.com/sahel-hd-signature-smile-hd-expression-for-genesis-8-female

For those that don't know, MMD users make up a massive community - it completely dwarfs DAZ and Poser user base combined probably by 100x.  Many videos have tens of millons of views just on English youtube - that doesn't even count the Asian web equivalents like weibo, nicovideo. The majority of users originate from Asian countries such as Japan, S.Korea, China

Most of the MMD models are lower poly, have lower quality textures - not the same quality as typical DS assets . If you're a DS user you probably will not be interested in the models unless there is some specific reason (some specialized character designs and garments) .  Or if you are willing to do some work to modify and retexture (you'd have to anyways if using DS IRAY or 3DL)

DS users would probably be more interested in motions . As mentioned above, most motions are dances, but chances are you can find anything if you look hard enough. But it can be quite difficult to find assets for English users - and Google translate doesn't always work perfectly  .  Some assets are buried deeply and have passwords, it's like some massive Easter egg hunt... not fun at all :(

However - It's quite difficult to transfer motions over to say, a G1/2/3/8 skeleton cleanly . Often there are problems. There are several different methods (some detailed on this forum) dealing with that. The PMX2FBX method mentioned above is probably the best one overall.  But you absolutely need retargetting software such as iclone 3dx, motionbuilder, webanimate . And even with those, the motions require a lot of work to clean up.  Most MMD models are anime stylized - skinny , with different bones and proportions - very different that the "muscular Michael" or "voluptuous Victoria". Beacuse of the large biomechanical differences, there are often extra problems that require attention

Blender has some MMD addons mentioned above, and you can import MMD models and VMD motions directly into blender. However, transferring them to a different model such as G1/2/3/8 cleanly within blender is still problematic . It doesn't have great retargetting tools yet (or maybe  there is some 3rd party addon from the market I'm not aware of) . And getting from blender back into DS with rig and keys is problematic  (and why would you want to do that? Proper HD, proper subd, JCM's - some methods cover one, but not all, you need to bring it back into DS to get everything)

There were some threads on breast jiggle. MMD has bullet physics since basically forever. PMX bases that have physics enabled, will calculate breast parameter. Because G3F/G8F have the same breast rigging (L/R Pectoral bone), you can just copy the curves over or adjust them for stronger/weaker effect . Same with any other physics enabled PMX rigged parts, such as clothing, hair etc....It's not as good as a true softbody rig - it does not calculate collisions or deformations, but it's decent, free and fast

Some of the motion tracers are quite talented (or so dedicated that they must spend months/years on a single song.) But some motions are just terrible, so YMMV.  Motion tracing in MMD typically involves placing a dance choreography video on a plane and manually animating

You have to be careful with the usage and readme . Some of the authors place restrictions on certain assets and motions eg. that they cannot be  used outside of MMD environment for example (ie. they don't want you using it in DS, or blender for whatever reason) , or for R18/adult purposes, or commercial usage