Rod Wise Driggo said:

Out of curiosity. What is the best/safest studio version to run on a M2 mac currently?

If you have access to it, I would say it's Public Beta 4.23.0.4: it's basically Daz Studio 4.23.0.1 (so it has the fix for the menus and access to anything except Filament/Filatoon) with the fix for the plugins (some plugins won't load with Daz Studio 4.23.0.1, the bug was fixed in Daz Studio 4.23.0.3 but Daz never pushed either 4.23.0.3 or 4.23.0.4 as the new general release).

I don't know enough about Daz Studio 4.23.1.XXX (the current beta builts) regarding stability, but due to it being a currently developped version it could be less stable than 4.23.0.4. Having said that, if you're regularly using Restore figure pose, it's blazingly fast with the current beta built. And it would give you access to Persona Presets (Scene subset with Character Preset functionnalities).

- And is there already feature parity with regards to the Premier only plugins?

Mac version doesn't have access to Render Queue, but outside of that, I think we have everything else. Here's a screenshot of all the Premier plugins available on Mac:

Filament is still not on the table hence, as this won't be there until studio 5 which might be 26/27ish, right?

Geforce RTX 50XX are currently not supported by the Iray version included in Daz Studio and from what Richard Haseltine said, an Iray version supporting them can not be used with Daz Studio 4.

So, either Daz is able to find a solution to have an Iray version supporting RTX 50XX with Daz Studio 4, or it will have to wait for Daz Studio 5.

From our point of view as MacOS users, the later is likely the best outcome, because if DS 5 is the only way to support the best RTX hardware, releasing it will likely have a higher priority than it had when the most visible missing feature was Filament for MacOS.

Out of curiosity. What is the best/safest studio version to run on a M2 mac currently?
- And is there already feature parity with regards to the Premier only plugins?
Filament is still not on the table hence, as this won't be there until studio 5 which might be 26/27ish, right?

does Filament and Filatoon work with it?

not that I can afford those cards but both actually work on my other PC without ar dedicated graphics card

so DAZ might be forced to develop Filament integration more fully if they want to stay relevent

How can you easily just render the line art for a character with Filament / Filatoon?

carrie58 said:

barbult said:

Leana said:

carrie58 said:

SickleYield said:

No, it just applies base Filament shaders. For it to make everything Filatoon I think we'd need a second product.

Well now that I have discovered Filament speed  ,I know I would definitely purchase a RSSY 3Delight And Iray To FilaToon , please  and Thank you very much .

There’s a Filatoon converter by another PA: https://www.daz3d.com/v3d-filatoon-converter-manager-and-tools

Yes, and it is excellent.

Well I'll go check that out too. Thank you very much.

I was going to recommend that too. V3Digitimes had contacted me to make sure we weren't going to step on each other, so I have put off a filatoon converter indefinitely.

barbult said:

Leana said:

carrie58 said:

SickleYield said:

No, it just applies base Filament shaders. For it to make everything Filatoon I think we'd need a second product.

Well now that I have discovered Filament speed  ,I know I would definitely purchase a RSSY 3Delight And Iray To FilaToon , please  and Thank you very much .

There’s a Filatoon converter by another PA: https://www.daz3d.com/v3d-filatoon-converter-manager-and-tools

Yes, and it is excellent.

Well I'll go check that out too. Thank you very much.

Leana said:

carrie58 said:

SickleYield said:

No, it just applies base Filament shaders. For it to make everything Filatoon I think we'd need a second product.

Well now that I have discovered Filament speed  ,I know I would definitely purchase a RSSY 3Delight And Iray To FilaToon , please  and Thank you very much .

There’s a Filatoon converter by another PA: https://www.daz3d.com/v3d-filatoon-converter-manager-and-tools

carrie58 said:

SickleYield said:

No, it just applies base Filament shaders. For it to make everything Filatoon I think we'd need a second product.

Well now that I have discovered Filament speed  ,I know I would definitely purchase a RSSY 3Delight And Iray To FilaToon , please  and Thank you very much .

There’s a Filatoon converter by another PA: https://www.daz3d.com/v3d-filatoon-converter-manager-and-tools

SickleYield said:

No, it just applies base Filament shaders. For it to make everything Filatoon I think we'd need a second product.

Well now that I have discovered Filament speed  ,I know I would definitely purchase a RSSY 3Delight And Iray To FilaToon , please  and Thank you very much .

Just started playing with the Filament renders and Filatoon I love the speed of the renders ,I've been  a die hard 3DL person cause I understood how to deal and make the textures butt at least on my computer it's gotten alot slower rendering, and then to try Filament ......

These are a miix of older figures switched to Filament or Filatoon

protosynthetic said:

I tend to be somewhere else on the spectrum with Xi's environments. There are a lot of things they use that make it difficult to see in texture view. Environments like the Futuristic Home Office have transparencies that make it impossible to see where you're posing things, and do the same in filament. Try to take a look inside the structures of environments like Barren Land and it all looks like static, you can't see where one piece of structure ends and the other begins. There are more than one environment where not only do the internal doors from one room to another pivot in the middle rather than at the hinge, but they and external doors are instanced. I also like to use Dimension Theory's Sketchy shaders (and tweak textures here and there in general), which makes another thing very apparent with Xi's environments: Anything emissive is complately baked into the texture, meaning if you want to keep the lights, you have to create a geoshell and track down all the light and masking textures.

I can't help but to have bought a few, but I generally don't like using them.

Adding to that, I learned not to expect historical accuracy from their products. There quite a few products look as if they were made by someone who never saw more than some scetchy pictures of the original. Kinda like those "historically accurate" bavarian houses in the chinese holiday park. Nice to look at, but way off from how they should really look.

Another go-around with filatoon.  Used Face Transfer to create a morph and then used 1-click Anime and Stylized Skinny Girl to shape it. This time decided to experiment with not applying the filatoon skin shader but used Toon for Mira and blended it with the face transfer generated MATs using the surfaces base color image selection menu's built in layer image editor.  Used Oso's Filatoon Tools to add details to the face.  For the hair I just used the general Filatoon Basic Shader and for the clothes used Kindredarts Filatoon shaders for some of the cloth and metal but left the leather as loaded. I used filatoon skies for background.  Played around with filament/environment settings and Presto got something I quite like.  I prefer less anime toons and I think this is a step in that direction.

No joy. Made sure scene never loaded filament options and that it was on texture shaded.

The crash is inside Studios DzMatrix4 constructor ( are you using Filament Preview)?

scorpio said:

I'm a bit confused by this

TT Mona for Genesis 9 Toon

https://www.daz3d.com/tt-mona-for-genesis-9-toon

The promos all look as if they are done in filatoon but it lists Iray materials. If its designed for Iray then do the promos in Iray - this is just odd, if the shader is Iray then you are going to have to apply the filatoon shader and adjust the settings to get anything that looks like the promos. Because the promos don't have an iray render I actually have no idea of what I'm actually getting.

No Iray Presets according to its readme, it's likely a mistake in the description (you can report it through the other discussion):

http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/read_me/index/107673/start

• Materials » Filament » FilaToon » Eyes » Eye Colors
• Materials » Filament » FilaToon » Feminine » TT Mona for Genesis 9 Toon » Eyes » Eye Colors
• Materials » Filament » FilaToon » Feminine » TT Mona for Genesis 9 Toon » Lips
• Materials » Filament » FilaToon » Feminine » TT Mona for Genesis 9 Toon » Makeup
• Materials » Filament » FilaToon » Feminine » TT Mona for Genesis 9 Toon » Nails
• Materials » Filament » FilaToon » Feminine » TT Mona for Genesis 9 Toon » Skin
• Materials » Filament » FilaToon » Nails
• Materials » Filament » FilaToon » Skin

I was speaking to my flatmate and noticed he was watching his DVD of 'Asteroid City' by Wes Anderson, c. 2023 on his computer. I realized it bore a resemblance to Filatoon/Filament, without the black lines, and seemed to be a toon background with human actors, who have been changed to a toonish look, and no one was casting a shadow. I thought I would bring it to your attention in this thread as it seems like a version of what you all are working on. 

Filatoon, Fila-toon, Fila toon, Fil* and Filament all return different results in the store and in Daz Studio.  
There are some items that don't show up at all with these searches.
Anime and Toon show some filiatoon items, but also items that are not filatoon.
How best to search for these things?  
Thanks!

Richard Haseltine said:

ainm.sloinneadh said:

Richard Haseltine said:

memcneil70 said:

I would rather have Filament/FilaToon for the MacOS systems please DAZ.

Different developer teams.

To be fair, there was no mention of development teams.

Presenting it as I wish you had done X not Y does rather imply that doing Y took resources that could have gone to X.

 That I agree with.

ainm.sloinneadh said:

Richard Haseltine said:

memcneil70 said:

I would rather have Filament/FilaToon for the MacOS systems please DAZ.

Different developer teams.

To be fair, there was no mention of development teams.

Presenting it as I wish you had done X not Y does rather imply that doing Y took resources that could have gone to X.

Richard Haseltine said:

memcneil70 said:

I would rather have Filament/FilaToon for the MacOS systems please DAZ.

Different developer teams.

To be fair, there was no mention of development teams.