Aiko 8 / The Girl 8
Alexandra 8 / Leisa 8
Babina 8 / Tasha 8  
Bridget 8 / Mrs. Chow 8
Charlotte 8 / Robyn 8    In Progress
Christian 8 / Lucas 8
CJ 8 / Monique 8
Dain 8 / Leroy 8
Dain 8 / Owen 8
Darcy 8 / Zalara 8
Darius 8 / Diego 8
Dasan 8 / Lucas 8
Edie 8 / Mabel 8
Ellithia  8 / Kanade 8
Eva 8 / Gia 8
Eva 8 / Monique
Floyd 8 / Nix 8
Floyd 8 / Owen 8
Gabriela 8 / Latonya 8
Jenni 8 / Kala 8
Jenni 8 / Nida 8
Josephine 8 / Rynne 8
Kala 8 / Teen Raven 8
Kanade 8 / Teen Jane 8
Lee 8  / Toon Dwayne 8
Mabel 8 / The Girl 8
Mei Lin 8 / Zalara 8
Michael 8 / Silas 8
Ollie 8 / Vladamir 8
Olympia 8 / Teen Raven 8
Robyn 8 / Tika 8
Sanjay 8 / Vladmir 8
Syndey 8 / Victoria 8     In Progress
The Brute 8 / Vladmir 8

I went into my files and cross-checked against the reported list of who has been renderd or is scheduled and found the following G8 Core characters are still available:

G8F Core: Caryn 8, Karyssa 8, Mika 8, Penny 8, Sakura 8, Stephanie 8, Sydney 8, Teen Josie 8, Teen Kaylee 8, Victoria 8

G8M Core: Edward 8, Jonanthan 8, Landon 8, Tobyn 8, Tristan 8

(I went off the last listing Novica posted just above.) I hope this is helpful for anyone looking for ideas.

I also find it interesting the characters that were used twice and the one that was used three times (Vladimir 8).

Mary

Hmm Victoria 8, Sydney 8, Mika 8 I dont see.

Wow, they're not in the scrolling bar that comes up when you do a search for Pro Bundle.  We'll have to include them :) 

Hmm Victoria 8, Sydney 8, Mika 8 I dont see.

I bought an item from Renderosity, thought I installed it right (I use Daz 4.12), but when I try to use them (This pair of shoes: (/bcs/lysithea-shoes---for-genesis-8-and-victoria-8/136677/)  they appear as textureless blocks.  The poses that came with the shoes also do not show up in my library properly.   I am not sure if I missed something, intalled them incorrectly or if they just don't work properly. 

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The amazing RSSY conversion products, such as RSSY Clothing Converter from Victoria 4 to Genesis 8 Female, have opened up vast vistas of wardrobe options and the salvaging of many older products—and even putting them into Smart Content. For me, at least, this is proving to be a mixed blessing.

For products originally made for Poser, which includes a lot of the V4 items, all the materials/textures for the wardrobe items remain in the often arcanely named maze-room folders of the Poser Runtime directory. There seems to be little-to-no consistency in the names of folders in which such textures/materials were installed, especially with third-party textures/materials created for a certain wardrobe item.

How do you veterans deal with this? Is there any way to get these textures/materials—whether originally supplied with the product or third-party—associated in any logical way with their intended wardrobe products, so they are easy to find and use?

I am not a Daz Veteran, for me it's only been 3 years, but I feel like one after manually downloading 1.52 TB of Daz and creating 25K custom folders which hold almos 5ook files. I too own that RSSY product. But because software changes and I have more control over my external drives, I tend to create a product folder and if I buy a texture or addon for it, I name another folder the same name, with a hyphen and extend the name to include what the PA decided to name it. If I need to find something I use my folder structure and naming structure to pick and choose. For example, I have a folder called footwear. Within that folder I have subfolders called Flats, Heels, Platforms etc. I also have cross references in a folder called ! In Other Folders. for footwear included with outfits. If I need to find some runners or dress shoes I can. I treat my inventory like a super store and the subfolders are akin to departments eg footwear, with aisles for types of footwear. Once upon a time I did programming and built websites, and learned the benefit of sections and naming concepts. My structure is much more than I am posting here, because I don't have time to write a novella, but finding a filing format & naming structure that works for you, will work best.

I've read this three times, @ArtAngel, and I'm going to be reading it again, because it's sort of like being shown the Copernican heliocentrism model for the first time and being told that the universe does not, in fact, rotate around the My Daz 3D Library folder.

I'm more than a little bit stunned. I've been operating under the idée fixe that I had to leave its structure just as Daz and DIM set it up. That things installed into "data" had to stay in "data," and things iinstalled into "People" had better stay right where they were put inside "People," and when it comes to "Runtime"—well, don't even think about touching or messing about with "Runtime," into which both Daz Studio AND Poser items are dumped installed with a precision that would make NASA engineers feel faint.

And here you just— Good land! You just take control and set things up how you want them, in ways that you can find them?!?!

I'm not exaggerating to say I'm stunned. I'm going to have to unlearn a heck of a lot before I set forth on a journey to learn what you seem to know. Where did you get the knowledge about what you can—and cannot—do in setting up your own filing/folders system? Right now, with the number of projects I have in progress, I'd be scared silly to attempt to restructure things, absent a very sound re-education in this topic.

Anything you can tell me, or any tutorial/documentation sources you can share, would be invaluable. Thanks for opening my eyes!

The amazing RSSY conversion products, such as RSSY Clothing Converter from Victoria 4 to Genesis 8 Female, have opened up vast vistas of wardrobe options and the salvaging of many older products—and even putting them into Smart Content. For me, at least, this is proving to be a mixed blessing.

For products originally made for Poser, which includes a lot of the V4 items, all the materials/textures for the wardrobe items remain in the often arcanely named maze-room folders of the Poser Runtime directory. There seems to be little-to-no consistency in the names of folders in which such textures/materials were installed, especially with third-party textures/materials created for a certain wardrobe item.

How do you veterans deal with this? Is there any way to get these textures/materials—whether originally supplied with the product or third-party—associated in any logical way with their intended wardrobe products, so they are easy to find and use?

I am not a Daz Veteran, for me it's only been 3 years, but I feel like one after manually downloading 1.52 TB of Daz and creating 25K custom folders which hold almos 5ook files. I too own that RSSY product. But because software changes and I have more control over my external drives, I tend to create a product folder and if I buy a texture or addon for it, I name another folder the same name, with a hyphen and extend the name to include what the PA decided to name it. If I need to find something I use my folder structure and naming structure to pick and choose. For example, I have a folder called footwear. Within that folder I have subfolders called Flats, Heels, Platforms etc. I also have cross references in a folder called ! In Other Folders. for footwear included with outfits. If I need to find some runners or dress shoes I can. I treat my inventory like a super store and the subfolders are akin to departments eg footwear, with aisles for types of footwear. Once upon a time I did programming and built websites, and learned the benefit of sections and naming concepts. My structure is much more than I am posting here, because I don't have time to write a novella, but finding a filing format & naming structure that works for you, will work best.

I know that there is a V4 clone for G8, so I wonder if there is a way to do that backwards? I don't know enough about clones to tell if it's possible or not to make a G8F clone for V4.

Edit - I found this, so it sounds like it's possible (though it does sound pretty complicated): https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/325241/how-to-make-a-clothes-fit-and-work-for-victoria-4

Thanks ... I'll check it out :)

I know that there is a V4 clone for G8, so I wonder if there is a way to do that backwards? I don't know enough about clones to tell if it's possible or not to make a G8F clone for V4.

Edit - I found this, so it sounds like it's possible (though it does sound pretty complicated): https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/325241/how-to-make-a-clothes-fit-and-work-for-victoria-4

The amazing RSSY conversion products, such as RSSY Clothing Converter from Victoria 4 to Genesis 8 Female, have opened up vast vistas of wardrobe options and the salvaging of many older products—and even putting them into Smart Content. For me, at least, this is proving to be a mixed blessing.

For products originally made for Poser, which includes a lot of the V4 items, all the materials/textures for the wardrobe items remain in the often arcanely named maze-room folders of the Poser Runtime directory. There seems to be little-to-no consistency in the names of folders in which such textures/materials were installed, especially with third-party textures/materials created for a certain wardrobe item.

How do you veterans deal with this? Is there any way to get these textures/materials—whether originally supplied with the product or third-party—associated in any logical way with their intended wardrobe products, so they are easy to find and use?

While I apprechiate artist creating male content, I am quite often disappointed by the content we get. Why is it always pretty white ladies, the asian one who got released a couple of days ago, she is so pretty. I haven't bought her yet, I'm waiting for a sale because this March Madness has drained my wallet quite badly. But everytime we get a new male character, it's old, uninteresting. At least to me. There is 1 item from the bundle I actually wanna get, but that's it. Create a high quality male teen character, just like teen Josie or any others, that way people will buy them in pairs. Just my 2 cents

I'm sorry, but which store are you looking at? Because I must respectfully disagree. :P

A lot of the characters are matching pairs. Leroy and Nida, Jonathan and Josephene, Kanade and Yuzuru, Deigo and Gabriela, Elios and Ellithia, Sanjay and Kala, Mr Woo and Mrs Chow, Ollie and Edie, Floyd and Mabel, Monique and Darius, Victoria and Michael, etc...it's not like they're only making young girls and old men.

Also, you've got characters like Deigo, Silas, Yuzuru, Sanjay, Nix, Lee, The Brute, Landon, a pretty diverse cast of male characters who aren't old.

If you don't mind me asking, what exactly would you consider an "interesting" male character?

Apparently there is a lack of Teen males. I saw more than one person complain about this.

In my mind there's nothing special about a teen and there are already a few teen males that are great, without the need for a DO character for it, but that is just my preference. I have 0 interest in a teen male.

 

Well, I can agree with that. Just look at the new releases. 2 MORE Teens for G8F. 0 for Males overall. I don't know why that is, but apparently they don't sell. The only reason why I'd wanna buy a teen male is for the skin texture, and morph it further. I just don't think it's fair to have that more females... But on the other side, I understand PAs, why would they spend their time creating something and risk not selling enough.

If there was a very interesting teen male maybe I could be interested in him but the previous generation teens were so generic and bland that I would not be.

I think there are so many other interesting types of characters we don't have yet that caucasian teen male is not one I would be interested in. For example Dasan 8 is very interesting, he looks like he has a back story to him. 

Of course this is only my opinion. If there are enough people interested in a teen male, why not have a pro bundle for that.

Another thing I would want to mention though is that lately I see a pattern for pairs of characters being released: CJ and Dain, Leroy and Nida, Jonathan and Josephine. Because of that I would expect a pair to Dasan to be released before anything else.

Maybe the chance for the teen male was missed after Raven of Josie. 

Male-M3dia made some G8 male teens that are perfectly good and I think better than something Daz would have come out with to be honest. The downside is that they are only shapes with no textures.

Laurie

After seeing your response, Laurie, I decided to go ahead and post what I was not going to post:

According to Daz representatives from the past, young males sell poorly, even to the point that Tween Ryan 7 was virtually given away for free as a new release. (Perhaps marketing figured, "We're gonna lose money anyway; so, let's buy some customer goodwill instead").

Also, Lucas 8 is late teen to early twenties, and he is probably one of the least popular G8 Core figures, which solidified Daz's original contention (although his orange, waxy, featureless skin and lack of morph personality may be more of a factor in low sales than his age and gender). BTW, Altern8 fixes Lucas 8's skin very nicely.

Although young male is the character category that is least interesting to me, I still need them for scene fillers. This past weekend I was finally able to pick up some wishlisted young males at a price befitting their value to me---though not their high quality: Justin, Josh, Jeremy, & Nick. Them, along with Male-M3dia's unparalleled male teen morph packs (these morphs easily rival Core figure quality in detail and distinctiveness) and skins like Nix 8 and Gage (as well as Genesis 8 UV Swap to use female skins) make it possible to field an entire teen male sports team as well as their opponents with no repetition.

 

I believe Lucas's poor sale performance isn't so much due to him being young and Male ... but that he wasn't such a convincing character. Mousso's new Asher is also young and Male and seems to perform well.

 

I would agree that in my opinion Lucas just seemed very plain or his features seemed generic compared to some of the sharper features that could seem more striking or memorable. They don't always have to be good features as we see with Ollie, but it helps him stand out and adds something different to the mix.

That's exactly true.

That is why I liked Ollie, why I like Dasan. They stand out. They are not handsome by any conventional ways (maybe Dasan used to be in his youth) but they stand out. They look like they have a life outsite of the render, a personality.

While I apprechiate artist creating male content, I am quite often disappointed by the content we get. Why is it always pretty white ladies, the asian one who got released a couple of days ago, she is so pretty. I haven't bought her yet, I'm waiting for a sale because this March Madness has drained my wallet quite badly. But everytime we get a new male character, it's old, uninteresting. At least to me. There is 1 item from the bundle I actually wanna get, but that's it. Create a high quality male teen character, just like teen Josie or any others, that way people will buy them in pairs. Just my 2 cents

I'm sorry, but which store are you looking at? Because I must respectfully disagree. :P

A lot of the characters are matching pairs. Leroy and Nida, Jonathan and Josephene, Kanade and Yuzuru, Deigo and Gabriela, Elios and Ellithia, Sanjay and Kala, Mr Woo and Mrs Chow, Ollie and Edie, Floyd and Mabel, Monique and Darius, Victoria and Michael, etc...it's not like they're only making young girls and old men.

Also, you've got characters like Deigo, Silas, Yuzuru, Sanjay, Nix, Lee, The Brute, Landon, a pretty diverse cast of male characters who aren't old.

If you don't mind me asking, what exactly would you consider an "interesting" male character?

Apparently there is a lack of Teen males. I saw more than one person complain about this.

In my mind there's nothing special about a teen and there are already a few teen males that are great, without the need for a DO character for it, but that is just my preference. I have 0 interest in a teen male.

 

Well, I can agree with that. Just look at the new releases. 2 MORE Teens for G8F. 0 for Males overall. I don't know why that is, but apparently they don't sell. The only reason why I'd wanna buy a teen male is for the skin texture, and morph it further. I just don't think it's fair to have that more females... But on the other side, I understand PAs, why would they spend their time creating something and risk not selling enough.

If there was a very interesting teen male maybe I could be interested in him but the previous generation teens were so generic and bland that I would not be.

I think there are so many other interesting types of characters we don't have yet that caucasian teen male is not one I would be interested in. For example Dasan 8 is very interesting, he looks like he has a back story to him. 

Of course this is only my opinion. If there are enough people interested in a teen male, why not have a pro bundle for that.

Another thing I would want to mention though is that lately I see a pattern for pairs of characters being released: CJ and Dain, Leroy and Nida, Jonathan and Josephine. Because of that I would expect a pair to Dasan to be released before anything else.

Maybe the chance for the teen male was missed after Raven of Josie. 

Male-M3dia made some G8 male teens that are perfectly good and I think better than something Daz would have come out with to be honest. The downside is that they are only shapes with no textures.

Laurie

After seeing your response, Laurie, I decided to go ahead and post what I was not going to post:

According to Daz representatives from the past, young males sell poorly, even to the point that Tween Ryan 7 was virtually given away for free as a new release. (Perhaps marketing figured, "We're gonna lose money anyway; so, let's buy some customer goodwill instead").

Also, Lucas 8 is late teen to early twenties, and he is probably one of the least popular G8 Core figures, which solidified Daz's original contention (although his orange, waxy, featureless skin and lack of morph personality may be more of a factor in low sales than his age and gender). BTW, Altern8 fixes Lucas 8's skin very nicely.

Although young male is the character category that is least interesting to me, I still need them for scene fillers. This past weekend I was finally able to pick up some wishlisted young males at a price befitting their value to me---though not their high quality: Justin, Josh, Jeremy, & Nick. Them, along with Male-M3dia's unparalleled male teen morph packs (these morphs easily rival Core figure quality in detail and distinctiveness) and skins like Nix 8 and Gage (as well as Genesis 8 UV Swap to use female skins) make it possible to field an entire teen male sports team as well as their opponents with no repetition.

I believe Lucas's poor sale performance isn't so much due to him being young and Male ... but that he wasn't such a convincing character. Mousso's new Asher is also young and Male and seems to perform well.

There are a few not so low cut ones :

https://www.daz3d.com/isla-bikini-for-genesis-8-females

What you want looks a lot like the Isla Bikini JVRender linked above.

Some other ones from the other store: 

https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?ViewProduct=142356

https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?ViewProduct=142189

https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?ViewProduct=111579

https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?ViewProduct=122321

Ah, missed this on your first post JV, thanks for re-pointing it out Alex. Yes, that's almost precisely the bottom I was looking for. Now, if only there were some more options. I already have a couple of the ones you posted from Renderosity. I like the 3DAge stuff a lot, and have quite a bit of it, I just have no idea how to successfully port it over to G3F or G8F. I am also a huge fan of high cut leotards, and they have some brilliant ones that would look so damn good on modern figures. Any paths you know to get that stuff over to modern figures?

Happy to help.

For converting I think the best and easiest way are the converters from https://www.daz3d.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=rssy+converter .

For this particular bathing suit https://www.daz3d.com/rssy-clothing-converter-from-victoria-4-to-genesis-8-female this is the one that fits.

Also Luciel's suggestion sounds pretty good.

This is a fast example of using Fit control to convert https://www.daz3d.com/realfit-hipster-bikini.

In first image I have the original on the left and the modified with fit control add-on on the right. Note that I did this pretty fast but there are a lot more sliders to this even more accurately.

The second image I have the same hipster bikini on the left but modified only with it's own morphs, and the same modified with fit control on the right for comparison.

Leony is one I like

https://www.daz3d.com/leony-hd-for-victoria-8

While I apprechiate artist creating male content, I am quite often disappointed by the content we get. Why is it always pretty white ladies, the asian one who got released a couple of days ago, she is so pretty. I haven't bought her yet, I'm waiting for a sale because this March Madness has drained my wallet quite badly. But everytime we get a new male character, it's old, uninteresting. At least to me. There is 1 item from the bundle I actually wanna get, but that's it. Create a high quality male teen character, just like teen Josie or any others, that way people will buy them in pairs. Just my 2 cents

I'm sorry, but which store are you looking at? Because I must respectfully disagree. :P

A lot of the characters are matching pairs. Leroy and Nida, Jonathan and Josephene, Kanade and Yuzuru, Deigo and Gabriela, Elios and Ellithia, Sanjay and Kala, Mr Woo and Mrs Chow, Ollie and Edie, Floyd and Mabel, Monique and Darius, Victoria and Michael, etc...it's not like they're only making young girls and old men.

Also, you've got characters like Deigo, Silas, Yuzuru, Sanjay, Nix, Lee, The Brute, Landon, a pretty diverse cast of male characters who aren't old.

If you don't mind me asking, what exactly would you consider an "interesting" male character?

Apparently there is a lack of Teen males. I saw more than one person complain about this.

In my mind there's nothing special about a teen and there are already a few teen males that are great, without the need for a DO character for it, but that is just my preference. I have 0 interest in a teen male.

 

Well, I can agree with that. Just look at the new releases. 2 MORE Teens for G8F. 0 for Males overall. I don't know why that is, but apparently they don't sell. The only reason why I'd wanna buy a teen male is for the skin texture, and morph it further. I just don't think it's fair to have that more females... But on the other side, I understand PAs, why would they spend their time creating something and risk not selling enough.

If there was a very interesting teen male maybe I could be interested in him but the previous generation teens were so generic and bland that I would not be.

I think there are so many other interesting types of characters we don't have yet that caucasian teen male is not one I would be interested in. For example Dasan 8 is very interesting, he looks like he has a back story to him. 

Of course this is only my opinion. If there are enough people interested in a teen male, why not have a pro bundle for that.

Another thing I would want to mention though is that lately I see a pattern for pairs of characters being released: CJ and Dain, Leroy and Nida, Jonathan and Josephine. Because of that I would expect a pair to Dasan to be released before anything else.

Maybe the chance for the teen male was missed after Raven of Josie. 

Male-M3dia made some G8 male teens that are perfectly good and I think better than something Daz would have come out with to be honest. The downside is that they are only shapes with no textures.

Laurie

After seeing your response, Laurie, I decided to go ahead and post what I was not going to post:

According to Daz representatives from the past, young males sell poorly, even to the point that Tween Ryan 7 was virtually given away for free as a new release. (Perhaps marketing figured, "We're gonna lose money anyway; so, let's buy some customer goodwill instead").

Also, Lucas 8 is late teen to early twenties, and he is probably one of the least popular G8 Core figures, which solidified Daz's original contention (although his orange, waxy, featureless skin and lack of morph personality may be more of a factor in low sales than his age and gender). BTW, Altern8 fixes Lucas 8's skin very nicely.

Although young male is the character category that is least interesting to me, I still need them for scene fillers. This past weekend I was finally able to pick up some wishlisted young males at a price befitting their value to me---though not their high quality: Justin, Josh, Jeremy, & Nick. Them, along with Male-M3dia's unparalleled male teen morph packs (these morphs easily rival Core figure quality in detail and distinctiveness) and skins like Nix 8 and Gage (as well as Genesis 8 UV Swap to use female skins) make it possible to field an entire teen male sports team as well as their opponents with no repetition.

 

I believe Lucas's poor sale performance isn't so much due to him being young and Male ... but that he wasn't such a convincing character. Mousso's new Asher is also young and Male and seems to perform well.

I agree (as I suggested in my post). I think Mousso's new character is doing well because Keanu. I don't know if there is another male person alive with more cred among our ilk than Keanu.

I agree with your points about Lucas and especially his skin problems.

I think Asher looking like Keanu certainly helps ... but I think what's more important is that he is simply very well made, a typical Mousso character. Now he might not perform equally well compared to female characters sales-wise and it might also factor in that he is not DO, like the rest of Mousso's characters. But I hope he sells well compared to other males and hopefully Daz will take notice.

While I apprechiate artist creating male content, I am quite often disappointed by the content we get. Why is it always pretty white ladies, the asian one who got released a couple of days ago, she is so pretty. I haven't bought her yet, I'm waiting for a sale because this March Madness has drained my wallet quite badly. But everytime we get a new male character, it's old, uninteresting. At least to me. There is 1 item from the bundle I actually wanna get, but that's it. Create a high quality male teen character, just like teen Josie or any others, that way people will buy them in pairs. Just my 2 cents

I'm sorry, but which store are you looking at? Because I must respectfully disagree. :P

A lot of the characters are matching pairs. Leroy and Nida, Jonathan and Josephene, Kanade and Yuzuru, Deigo and Gabriela, Elios and Ellithia, Sanjay and Kala, Mr Woo and Mrs Chow, Ollie and Edie, Floyd and Mabel, Monique and Darius, Victoria and Michael, etc...it's not like they're only making young girls and old men.

Also, you've got characters like Deigo, Silas, Yuzuru, Sanjay, Nix, Lee, The Brute, Landon, a pretty diverse cast of male characters who aren't old.

If you don't mind me asking, what exactly would you consider an "interesting" male character?

Apparently there is a lack of Teen males. I saw more than one person complain about this.

In my mind there's nothing special about a teen and there are already a few teen males that are great, without the need for a DO character for it, but that is just my preference. I have 0 interest in a teen male.

 

Well, I can agree with that. Just look at the new releases. 2 MORE Teens for G8F. 0 for Males overall. I don't know why that is, but apparently they don't sell. The only reason why I'd wanna buy a teen male is for the skin texture, and morph it further. I just don't think it's fair to have that more females... But on the other side, I understand PAs, why would they spend their time creating something and risk not selling enough.

If there was a very interesting teen male maybe I could be interested in him but the previous generation teens were so generic and bland that I would not be.

I think there are so many other interesting types of characters we don't have yet that caucasian teen male is not one I would be interested in. For example Dasan 8 is very interesting, he looks like he has a back story to him. 

Of course this is only my opinion. If there are enough people interested in a teen male, why not have a pro bundle for that.

Another thing I would want to mention though is that lately I see a pattern for pairs of characters being released: CJ and Dain, Leroy and Nida, Jonathan and Josephine. Because of that I would expect a pair to Dasan to be released before anything else.

Maybe the chance for the teen male was missed after Raven of Josie. 

Male-M3dia made some G8 male teens that are perfectly good and I think better than something Daz would have come out with to be honest. The downside is that they are only shapes with no textures.

Laurie

After seeing your response, Laurie, I decided to go ahead and post what I was not going to post:

According to Daz representatives from the past, young males sell poorly, even to the point that Tween Ryan 7 was virtually given away for free as a new release. (Perhaps marketing figured, "We're gonna lose money anyway; so, let's buy some customer goodwill instead").

Also, Lucas 8 is late teen to early twenties, and he is probably one of the least popular G8 Core figures, which solidified Daz's original contention (although his orange, waxy, featureless skin and lack of morph personality may be more of a factor in low sales than his age and gender). BTW, Altern8 fixes Lucas 8's skin very nicely.

Although young male is the character category that is least interesting to me, I still need them for scene fillers. This past weekend I was finally able to pick up some wishlisted young males at a price befitting their value to me---though not their high quality: Justin, Josh, Jeremy, & Nick. Them, along with Male-M3dia's unparalleled male teen morph packs (these morphs easily rival Core figure quality in detail and distinctiveness) and skins like Nix 8 and Gage (as well as Genesis 8 UV Swap to use female skins) make it possible to field an entire teen male sports team as well as their opponents with no repetition.

 

I believe Lucas's poor sale performance isn't so much due to him being young and Male ... but that he wasn't such a convincing character. Mousso's new Asher is also young and Male and seems to perform well.

I agree (as I suggested in my post). I think Mousso's new character is doing well because Keanu. I don't know if there is another male person alive with more cred among our ilk than Keanu.

Finally finished putting my cart together and placed the order. Shopping for a sale like this really sucks on my phone, both because I can’t filter by wishlist and because I can’t hop between tabs as easily. 

Congrats, I am still struggling to decide on some items. It would be so much easier if we could pick more from people and wearables.

It's weird we have to pick the same amount of stuff from animations and poses as from people and wearables. Would have been better if it was people and poses for one and wearables for another, or all combined for double the amount.

 

While I apprechiate artist creating male content, I am quite often disappointed by the content we get. Why is it always pretty white ladies, the asian one who got released a couple of days ago, she is so pretty. I haven't bought her yet, I'm waiting for a sale because this March Madness has drained my wallet quite badly. But everytime we get a new male character, it's old, uninteresting. At least to me. There is 1 item from the bundle I actually wanna get, but that's it. Create a high quality male teen character, just like teen Josie or any others, that way people will buy them in pairs. Just my 2 cents

I'm sorry, but which store are you looking at? Because I must respectfully disagree. :P

A lot of the characters are matching pairs. Leroy and Nida, Jonathan and Josephene, Kanade and Yuzuru, Deigo and Gabriela, Elios and Ellithia, Sanjay and Kala, Mr Woo and Mrs Chow, Ollie and Edie, Floyd and Mabel, Monique and Darius, Victoria and Michael, etc...it's not like they're only making young girls and old men.

Also, you've got characters like Deigo, Silas, Yuzuru, Sanjay, Nix, Lee, The Brute, Landon, a pretty diverse cast of male characters who aren't old.

If you don't mind me asking, what exactly would you consider an "interesting" male character?

Apparently there is a lack of Teen males. I saw more than one person complain about this.

In my mind there's nothing special about a teen and there are already a few teen males that are great, without the need for a DO character for it, but that is just my preference. I have 0 interest in a teen male.

 

Well, I can agree with that. Just look at the new releases. 2 MORE Teens for G8F. 0 for Males overall. I don't know why that is, but apparently they don't sell. The only reason why I'd wanna buy a teen male is for the skin texture, and morph it further. I just don't think it's fair to have that more females... But on the other side, I understand PAs, why would they spend their time creating something and risk not selling enough.

If there was a very interesting teen male maybe I could be interested in him but the previous generation teens were so generic and bland that I would not be.

I think there are so many other interesting types of characters we don't have yet that caucasian teen male is not one I would be interested in. For example Dasan 8 is very interesting, he looks like he has a back story to him. 

Of course this is only my opinion. If there are enough people interested in a teen male, why not have a pro bundle for that.

Another thing I would want to mention though is that lately I see a pattern for pairs of characters being released: CJ and Dain, Leroy and Nida, Jonathan and Josephine. Because of that I would expect a pair to Dasan to be released before anything else.

Maybe the chance for the teen male was missed after Raven of Josie. 

Male-M3dia made some G8 male teens that are perfectly good and I think better than something Daz would have come out with to be honest. The downside is that they are only shapes with no textures.

Laurie

After seeing your response, Laurie, I decided to go ahead and post what I was not going to post:

According to Daz representatives from the past, young males sell poorly, even to the point that Tween Ryan 7 was virtually given away for free as a new release. (Perhaps marketing figured, "We're gonna lose money anyway; so, let's buy some customer goodwill instead").

Also, Lucas 8 is late teen to early twenties, and he is probably one of the least popular G8 Core figures, which solidified Daz's original contention (although his orange, waxy, featureless skin and lack of morph personality may be more of a factor in low sales than his age and gender). BTW, Altern8 fixes Lucas 8's skin very nicely.

Although young male is the character category that is least interesting to me, I still need them for scene fillers. This past weekend I was finally able to pick up some wishlisted young males at a price befitting their value to me---though not their high quality: Justin, Josh, Jeremy, & Nick. Them, along with Male-M3dia's unparalleled male teen morph packs (these morphs easily rival Core figure quality in detail and distinctiveness) and skins like Nix 8 and Gage (as well as Genesis 8 UV Swap to use female skins) make it possible to field an entire teen male sports team as well as their opponents with no repetition.

 

I believe Lucas's poor sale performance isn't so much due to him being young and Male ... but that he wasn't such a convincing character. Mousso's new Asher is also young and Male and seems to perform well.

I think that most young males are bland. They lack personality or any distinct features and are just generic. Asher is one to break out of that pattern, that is why he is so well received.

I could totally get behind a young male if he has a look that said something.

I also think that it's funny how Daz is full of gorgeous women but very few of the men are attractive. What up with that?

Because men are allowed to have character. Women must simply be beautiful.

Finally finished putting my cart together and placed the order. Shopping for a sale like this really sucks on my phone, both because I can’t filter by wishlist and because I can’t hop between tabs as easily. 

Congrats, I am still struggling to decide on some items. It would be so much easier if we could pick more from people and wearables.

It's weird we have to pick the same amount of stuff from animations and poses as from people and wearables. Would have been better if it was people and poses for one and wearables for another, or all combined for double the amount.

While I apprechiate artist creating male content, I am quite often disappointed by the content we get. Why is it always pretty white ladies, the asian one who got released a couple of days ago, she is so pretty. I haven't bought her yet, I'm waiting for a sale because this March Madness has drained my wallet quite badly. But everytime we get a new male character, it's old, uninteresting. At least to me. There is 1 item from the bundle I actually wanna get, but that's it. Create a high quality male teen character, just like teen Josie or any others, that way people will buy them in pairs. Just my 2 cents

I'm sorry, but which store are you looking at? Because I must respectfully disagree. :P

A lot of the characters are matching pairs. Leroy and Nida, Jonathan and Josephene, Kanade and Yuzuru, Deigo and Gabriela, Elios and Ellithia, Sanjay and Kala, Mr Woo and Mrs Chow, Ollie and Edie, Floyd and Mabel, Monique and Darius, Victoria and Michael, etc...it's not like they're only making young girls and old men.

Also, you've got characters like Deigo, Silas, Yuzuru, Sanjay, Nix, Lee, The Brute, Landon, a pretty diverse cast of male characters who aren't old.

If you don't mind me asking, what exactly would you consider an "interesting" male character?

Apparently there is a lack of Teen males. I saw more than one person complain about this.

In my mind there's nothing special about a teen and there are already a few teen males that are great, without the need for a DO character for it, but that is just my preference. I have 0 interest in a teen male.

 

Well, I can agree with that. Just look at the new releases. 2 MORE Teens for G8F. 0 for Males overall. I don't know why that is, but apparently they don't sell. The only reason why I'd wanna buy a teen male is for the skin texture, and morph it further. I just don't think it's fair to have that more females... But on the other side, I understand PAs, why would they spend their time creating something and risk not selling enough.

If there was a very interesting teen male maybe I could be interested in him but the previous generation teens were so generic and bland that I would not be.

I think there are so many other interesting types of characters we don't have yet that caucasian teen male is not one I would be interested in. For example Dasan 8 is very interesting, he looks like he has a back story to him. 

Of course this is only my opinion. If there are enough people interested in a teen male, why not have a pro bundle for that.

Another thing I would want to mention though is that lately I see a pattern for pairs of characters being released: CJ and Dain, Leroy and Nida, Jonathan and Josephine. Because of that I would expect a pair to Dasan to be released before anything else.

Maybe the chance for the teen male was missed after Raven of Josie. 

Male-M3dia made some G8 male teens that are perfectly good and I think better than something Daz would have come out with to be honest. The downside is that they are only shapes with no textures.

Laurie

After seeing your response, Laurie, I decided to go ahead and post what I was not going to post:

According to Daz representatives from the past, young males sell poorly, even to the point that Tween Ryan 7 was virtually given away for free as a new release. (Perhaps marketing figured, "We're gonna lose money anyway; so, let's buy some customer goodwill instead").

Also, Lucas 8 is late teen to early twenties, and he is probably one of the least popular G8 Core figures, which solidified Daz's original contention (although his orange, waxy, featureless skin and lack of morph personality may be more of a factor in low sales than his age and gender). BTW, Altern8 fixes Lucas 8's skin very nicely.

Although young male is the character category that is least interesting to me, I still need them for scene fillers. This past weekend I was finally able to pick up some wishlisted young males at a price befitting their value to me---though not their high quality: Justin, Josh, Jeremy, & Nick. Them, along with Male-M3dia's unparalleled male teen morph packs (these morphs easily rival Core figure quality in detail and distinctiveness) and skins like Nix 8 and Gage (as well as Genesis 8 UV Swap to use female skins) make it possible to field an entire teen male sports team as well as their opponents with no repetition.

 

I believe Lucas's poor sale performance isn't so much due to him being young and Male ... but that he wasn't such a convincing character. Mousso's new Asher is also young and Male and seems to perform well.

I think that most young males are bland. They lack personality or any distinct features and are just generic. Asher is one to break out of that pattern, that is why he is so well received.

I could totally get behind a young male if he has a look that said something.

I also think that it's funny how Daz is full of gorgeous women but very few of the men are attractive. What up with that?

Hmm thats a hard one.  Hopefully someone will come in with an answer. You might can message the artist but it looks like its an older render so they may not even know anymore.  Couple I found that might be at least close? (I don't own either so I cant test morphs to see if they can get the same shape)

Ronya Hair

Samira Bob Hair

Both OOT hair first one is here, second one at Rendo.

While I apprechiate artist creating male content, I am quite often disappointed by the content we get. Why is it always pretty white ladies, the asian one who got released a couple of days ago, she is so pretty. I haven't bought her yet, I'm waiting for a sale because this March Madness has drained my wallet quite badly. But everytime we get a new male character, it's old, uninteresting. At least to me. There is 1 item from the bundle I actually wanna get, but that's it. Create a high quality male teen character, just like teen Josie or any others, that way people will buy them in pairs. Just my 2 cents

I'm sorry, but which store are you looking at? Because I must respectfully disagree. :P

A lot of the characters are matching pairs. Leroy and Nida, Jonathan and Josephene, Kanade and Yuzuru, Deigo and Gabriela, Elios and Ellithia, Sanjay and Kala, Mr Woo and Mrs Chow, Ollie and Edie, Floyd and Mabel, Monique and Darius, Victoria and Michael, etc...it's not like they're only making young girls and old men.

Also, you've got characters like Deigo, Silas, Yuzuru, Sanjay, Nix, Lee, The Brute, Landon, a pretty diverse cast of male characters who aren't old.

If you don't mind me asking, what exactly would you consider an "interesting" male character?

Apparently there is a lack of Teen males. I saw more than one person complain about this.

In my mind there's nothing special about a teen and there are already a few teen males that are great, without the need for a DO character for it, but that is just my preference. I have 0 interest in a teen male.

 

Well, I can agree with that. Just look at the new releases. 2 MORE Teens for G8F. 0 for Males overall. I don't know why that is, but apparently they don't sell. The only reason why I'd wanna buy a teen male is for the skin texture, and morph it further. I just don't think it's fair to have that more females... But on the other side, I understand PAs, why would they spend their time creating something and risk not selling enough.

If there was a very interesting teen male maybe I could be interested in him but the previous generation teens were so generic and bland that I would not be.

I think there are so many other interesting types of characters we don't have yet that caucasian teen male is not one I would be interested in. For example Dasan 8 is very interesting, he looks like he has a back story to him. 

Of course this is only my opinion. If there are enough people interested in a teen male, why not have a pro bundle for that.

Another thing I would want to mention though is that lately I see a pattern for pairs of characters being released: CJ and Dain, Leroy and Nida, Jonathan and Josephine. Because of that I would expect a pair to Dasan to be released before anything else.

Maybe the chance for the teen male was missed after Raven of Josie. 

Male-M3dia made some G8 male teens that are perfectly good and I think better than something Daz would have come out with to be honest. The downside is that they are only shapes with no textures.

Laurie

After seeing your response, Laurie, I decided to go ahead and post what I was not going to post:

According to Daz representatives from the past, young males sell poorly, even to the point that Tween Ryan 7 was virtually given away for free as a new release. (Perhaps marketing figured, "We're gonna lose money anyway; so, let's buy some customer goodwill instead").

Also, Lucas 8 is late teen to early twenties, and he is probably one of the least popular G8 Core figures, which solidified Daz's original contention (although his orange, waxy, featureless skin and lack of morph personality may be more of a factor in low sales than his age and gender). BTW, Altern8 fixes Lucas 8's skin very nicely.

Although young male is the character category that is least interesting to me, I still need them for scene fillers. This past weekend I was finally able to pick up some wishlisted young males at a price befitting their value to me---though not their high quality: Justin, Josh, Jeremy, & Nick. Them, along with Male-M3dia's unparalleled male teen morph packs (these morphs easily rival Core figure quality in detail and distinctiveness) and skins like Nix 8 and Gage (as well as Genesis 8 UV Swap to use female skins) make it possible to field an entire teen male sports team as well as their opponents with no repetition.