WendyLuvsCatz said:

plasma_ring said:

WendyLuvsCatz said:

so is the FACS thing only with Victoria 8 then?

no information in that video how it works as in what tool to use or if there is a window, Powerpose doesn't seem to have it just the usual dots so am assuming not just base 8.1

If you go to Expressions > any part of the face there are a bunch of new dials for 8.1. For example, eyes have options like Blink and Look Out/In.  You can also move the bones directly by expanding 8.1's head in the scene tab and opening up "upper face rig" and "lower face rig." As I understand it, the difference is mainly in how face movements are calculated. 

in the video they showed onscreen controls  

Oh interesting, I missed that somehow. It looks like some of the package updates are in wierd places, so maybe it's hiding (or was left out by mistake). D:

Never mind, I found it! It's under Genesis 8 Male PowerPose Templates > Anatomy > Genesis 8 Female Face Controls. It loads parented to the head and it doesn't seem to be visible in Iray viewport. 

namtar3d said:

Hi there, i just bought Victoria 8.1 and downloaded the updates, but i can't find the new features, i can't even access the old system O_o... 

 

Please tell me i don't need to buy the whole bundle!

You don't need to buy the bundle. If you downloaded the updates and you aren't seeing the correct options, it might be a good idea to file a bug report. 

plasma_ring said:

WendyLuvsCatz said:

so is the FACS thing only with Victoria 8 then?

no information in that video how it works as in what tool to use or if there is a window, Powerpose doesn't seem to have it just the usual dots so am assuming not just base 8.1

If you go to Expressions > any part of the face there are a bunch of new dials for 8.1. For example, eyes have options like Blink and Look Out/In.  You can also move the bones directly by expanding 8.1's head in the scene tab and opening up "upper face rig" and "lower face rig." As I understand it, the difference is mainly in how face movements are calculated. 

in the video they showed onscreen controls  

WendyLuvsCatz said:

so is the FACS thing only with Victoria 8 then?

no information in that video how it works as in what tool to use or if there is a window, Powerpose doesn't seem to have it just the usual dots so am assuming not just base 8.1

If you go to Expressions > any part of the face there are a bunch of new dials for 8.1. For example, eyes have options like Blink and Look Out/In.  You can also move the bones directly by expanding 8.1's head in the scene tab and opening up "upper face rig" and "lower face rig." As I understand it, the difference is mainly in how face movements are calculated. 

Hi there, i just bought Victoria 8.1 and downloaded the updates, but i can't find the new features, i can't even access the old system O_o... 

Please tell me i don't need to buy the whole bundle!

deepswing said:

plasma_ring said:

It seems like morph expressions like Unique Smiles work fine, but not expression dials saved from poses? Which makes sense.

Just for fun, here's a RY Tessa for Victoria 8 comparison. The new version uses Victoria 8.1's skin settings, eye materials, eyelashes, and eyebrows. 

Overall I'm really impressed, but I'm one of those people who goes bonkers in yonkers over the slightest improvement in expressions and functionality haha. 

I just try to find expressions which work. I bought several expression packs, I see that some signature smiles work (Kayla Remake works), but expression packs sometimes don't do anything at all, or touch only the eye/eyebrow section, but not the mouth. This is unfortunate, but does make sense as they rebuilt these areas. 

At a guess, expressions based on morphs should work, but those which used the face bones might not.

plasma_ring said:

It seems like morph expressions like Unique Smiles work fine, but not expression dials saved from poses? Which makes sense.

Just for fun, here's a RY Tessa for Victoria 8 comparison. The new version uses Victoria 8.1's skin settings, eye materials, eyelashes, and eyebrows. 

Overall I'm really impressed, but I'm one of those people who goes bonkers in yonkers over the slightest improvement in expressions and functionality haha. 

I just try to find expressions which work. I bought several expression packs, I see that some signature smiles work (Kayla Remake works), but expression packs sometimes don't do anything at all, or touch only the eye/eyebrow section, but not the mouth. This is unfortunate, but does make sense as they rebuilt these areas. 

A fairly comprehensive thread HERE with lots of questions answered by PAs who have been working with them

so is the FACS thing only with Victoria 8 then?

no information in that video how it works as in what tool to use or if there is a window, Powerpose doesn't seem to have it just the usual dots so am assuming not just base 8.1

guess next thing is to test it in iClone and Unreal engine but I am not optimistic 

It seems like morph expressions like Unique Smiles work fine, but not expression dials saved from poses? Which makes sense.

Just for fun, here's a RY Tessa for Victoria 8 comparison. The new version uses Victoria 8.1's skin settings, eye materials, eyelashes, and eyebrows. 

Overall I'm really impressed, but I'm one of those people who goes bonkers in yonkers over the slightest improvement in expressions and functionality haha. 

ps201 said:

Chris can you get the title of  Z Sign Language Alphabet for Genesis 8.1 Female and Victoria 8.1 changed?

There are numerous versions of sign language around the world - Z American Sign Language Alphabet for ... would be the more accurate description for this and also prevent confusion when someone creates the other sign langauge versions in the future.

We describe spoken languages by their specific varities, the same should be done for sign language.

 

 

 

I will send on the suggestion.

What do you think of the new Victoria 8.1?

https://www.daz3d.com/victoria-8-1

Chris can you get the title of  Z Sign Language Alphabet for Genesis 8.1 Female and Victoria 8.1 changed?

There are numerous versions of sign language around the world - Z American Sign Language Alphabet for ... would be the more accurate description for this and also prevent confusion when someone creates the other sign langauge versions in the future.

We describe spoken languages by their specific varities, the same should be done for sign language.

ok, here my questions and i hope any mod can answer:

1 - interactlive licenses - the interactive license for the 8.0 still valid for the 8.1?? or i have to pay for a "new license" to use the 8.1?

2  the "new eyeslash" looks like a sort of fibermesh or dforce hair, or not?? i means i can still use the "old eyeslash??? just in case?? i means, because for game dev using high poly "eyelashess is bad, 

3 - all the body hair is optional right??? i can use or not right???

as the others told srry but i'm not gonna buy again "victoria, michael and many others characters "again" just because specially now with the "overpriced bundles with costing more with less stuffs, really srry even the new victoria bundle feel really bad it come just with victoria as character come with 2 random "props" for scene, only 1 outfit and 2 hair 3 poses, srry basically 10 stuffs and from those 10 stuffs only really 2 are really good for me and all that for 150buckets even witht he 51% discount still a lot expensive for a overpriced pack, i'm really start to think which i gonna still using a lot the old 8 before i even think in upgrade it for 8.1 it's is really feeling not good for me for what i could see so far.

Ryselle-Ryssa said:

The seemingly easier expression features is of course tempting... On the other hand: I have so many Genesis 8.0 characters aquired, that it is just frustrating.

So, I will wait until one noble soul creates a converter

It works no differently than it would transferring your characters from a Victoria 8 base to a Babina 8 base. To do this I loaded Genesis 8.1 Female and added the materials, shaping preset, and anatomy addons from the character's folder just like with G8F. 

Interested in the eyes for sure.

But I doubt this update is going to change the fact that a skilled 3D Artist can make Aiko 3 jump off the screen to life.

While an everyday hack like myself will be able to make Victoria 8.1 look like a lump of high gloss plastic with something resembling a face.

mmkdaz said:

Whoa! Thank you thank you! Cant wait to try out some new shaders, and the new eyes! love those eyes!

The new teeth are also great. Victoria 8.1 eyes and the new skin shader are some of my favorite stuff right now.

The Blurst of Times said:

Well... I said I'd buy Genesis 9 for sure. Wasn't exactly expecting 8.1 here.

I got a banner for another 20% off the bundle (for owning Girls Dorm and Matilda Hair). The bundle shows as $44.67 in the cart for me (with 3 add-ons).

I'll get Victoria 8.1, but there's little I'll actually do with her very soon unless I start transferring a ton of morphs over.

Just install the free update Genesis 8.1 from the new starter pack and see if you actually need Victoria 8.1. All existing characters should work on Genesis 8.1., you shouldn't need Victoria 8.1 for that.

Seems that DAZ is continuing that themed bundle strategy including older products.

A second bundle (Victoria 8.1 Loving Life) was also listed for a short time but linked to an Oops page - so will probably be released tomorrow.

There is much to like in the bundle (especially the Top Updo hair) but I wonder why they need to throw in two environments once we are talking about a character release. A have enough libraries and dorms already so there is not much use for me. Also the Hearing aids might have been a better fit with Floyd 8 in my opinion. Those things make it not completely easy to just go ahead and purchase although I get extra discount for owning Mathilda hair already.

The Blurst of Times said:

Well... I said I'd buy Genesis 9 for sure. Wasn't exactly expecting 8.1 here.

I got a banner for another 20% off the bundle (for owning Girls Dorm and Matilda Hair). The bundle shows as $44.67 in the cart for me (with 3 add-ons).

I'll get Victoria 8.1, but there's little I'll actually do with her very soon unless I start transferring a ton of morphs over.

Only if you mean from previous generations or the male. All the 8 morphs will already be loaded on her when you pull her up in DS.