tsroemi said:

mding said:

Still, I ask myself how AI Victoria could answer my question in that way with such a "selfconfidence"? Really fooled me, lol!

It's the same merry confidence with which Chat recommends books to you that don't exist. It's because AI creates the most likely answer, not necessarily the most true one. If that makes sense.

...and is also programmed to act as an authority regardless of its accuracy. 

mding said:

Still, I ask myself how AI Victoria could answer my question in that way with such a "selfconfidence"? Really fooled me, lol!

That's the problem with AI at the moment. It can plausibly spout utter rubbish that is 100% wrong.

Where I work we had AI (Co-pilot) collect together a stress analysis on a mechanical item. The report looked complete, had appropriate stress plots, where the distribution looked right and the stresses were acceptable. One problem, it was completely and utterly false. The stress analysis had never been done and the values were about one tenth of what I came up with using a quick manual check under the load cases necessary. This analysis would have led to the death of someone. But AI was 100% confident & 100% plausible. This is desperately dangerous.

Every AI statement needs checking at the moment. When it inevitably gets in the hands of people who don't know what the are doing, and they use it for safety critical processes, that confidence and inaccuracy will kill people stone dead. It's not a possibility, it is going to happen at some point. I may sound like a Jonah at the moment, but he was, and I am, right.

Regards,

Richard

mding said:

Still, I ask myself how AI Victoria could answer my question in that way with such a "selfconfidence"? Really fooled me, lol!

It's the same merry confidence with which Chat recommends books to you that don't exist. It's because AI creates the most likely answer, not necessarily the most true one. If that makes sense.

Richard Haseltine said:

Aren't those still in Outlet? Or does the price change in cart (I purchased so can't check).

They are not, they were removed with the last refresh. Victoria 6's price is lowered when adding a Golden Ticket, the other two will not because they are at the price floor, but applying 8 tokens does lower their price. And when I tried to add 09_25PREMIER, I got a coupon invalid error.

Screenshots of my cart:

Just the three items (I don't own a current Golden Ticket):

Adding a Golden Ticket:

Applying 8 tokens:

I checked without taking a screenshot by adding Olympia 6 to the cart (she was included in the outlet store until the recent refresh), and the 09_25PREMIER coupon was entirely applied to her, while the other three Daz Originals didn't see their price lowered.

Elor said:

Richard Haseltine said:

Yes, the ex-Outlook items should be taking coupons now - there was an issue, it wasd fixed a couple of hours ago. We asked about Victoria.

Some items still have a problem (mostly Daz Originals I would say). I didn't check all DOs obviously, but as an example, Victoria 6 doesn't see her price lowered when using 09_25PREMIER and it's the same for (I picked them randomely when I tried to check if the problem was solved):

• https://www.daz3d.com/corbin-for-lucian-7
• https://www.daz3d.com/street-bike-construction-kit

Aren't those still in Outlet? Or does the price change in cart (I purchased so can't check).

Richard Haseltine said:

Yes, the ex-Outlook items should be taking coupons now - there was an issue, it wasd fixed a couple of hours ago. We asked about Victoria.

Some items still have a problem (mostly Daz Originals I would say). I didn't check all DOs obviously, but as an example, Victoria 6 doesn't see her price lowered when using 09_25PREMIER and it's the same for (I picked them randomely when I tried to check if the problem was solved):

• https://www.daz3d.com/corbin-for-lucian-7
• https://www.daz3d.com/street-bike-construction-kit

Yes, the ex-Outlook items should be taking coupons now - there was an issue, it wasd fixed a couple of hours ago. We asked about Victoria.

Still, I ask myself how AI Victoria could answer my question in that way with such a "selfconfidence"? Really fooled me, lol!

QN883DArts said:

Charlie Judge said:

mding said:

AI Victoria being helpful: 

Question: products formerly in the outlet store can't don't work with the 09_25PREMIER coupon

Answer: That's correct! Products that were formerly in our outlet store typically can't be used with coupons like the 09_25PREMIER coupon.
Our outlet store has a policy that states "Unless otherwise specified, no discounts, coupons, tokens, or other deals may be applied to Outlet Items." This restriction generally applies to items even after they've moved out of the outlet store.
This is an intentional limitation to maintain the special pricing structure of outlet items and former outlet items.
 

That doesn't sound like a reasonable policy to me. Basically it implies that former outlet store items will forever have a high price.

Well it can't be correct. Some items that never have been in the outlet store are affected by it, and some items that have been in the very last listing of the outlet are not affected. The entire HM store is affected and only few of his assets have been listed in the outlet. It's probably a bug/mistake. 

I just did a test and I was able to successfully apply the premier 'Save 10' coupon and tokens to some former outlet store items that are in my wishllst.

Charlie Judge said:

mding said:

AI Victoria being helpful: 

Question: products formerly in the outlet store can't don't work with the 09_25PREMIER coupon

Answer: That's correct! Products that were formerly in our outlet store typically can't be used with coupons like the 09_25PREMIER coupon.
Our outlet store has a policy that states "Unless otherwise specified, no discounts, coupons, tokens, or other deals may be applied to Outlet Items." This restriction generally applies to items even after they've moved out of the outlet store.
This is an intentional limitation to maintain the special pricing structure of outlet items and former outlet items.
 

That doesn't sound like a reasonable policy to me. Basically it implies that former outlet store items will forever have a high price.

Well it can't be correct. Some items that never have been in the outlet store are affected by it, and some items that have been in the very last listing of the outlet are not affected. The entire HM store is affected and only few of his assets have been listed in the outlet. It's probably a bug/mistake. 

mding said:

AI Victoria being helpful: 

Question: products formerly in the outlet store can't don't work with the 09_25PREMIER coupon

Answer: That's correct! Products that were formerly in our outlet store typically can't be used with coupons like the 09_25PREMIER coupon.
Our outlet store has a policy that states "Unless otherwise specified, no discounts, coupons, tokens, or other deals may be applied to Outlet Items." This restriction generally applies to items even after they've moved out of the outlet store.
This is an intentional limitation to maintain the special pricing structure of outlet items and former outlet items.
 

That doesn't sound like a reasonable policy to me. Basically it implies that former outlet store items will forever have a high price.

AI Victoria being helpful: 

Question: products formerly in the outlet store can't don't work with the 09_25PREMIER coupon

Answer: That's correct! Products that were formerly in our outlet store typically can't be used with coupons like the 09_25PREMIER coupon.
Our outlet store has a policy that states "Unless otherwise specified, no discounts, coupons, tokens, or other deals may be applied to Outlet Items." This restriction generally applies to items even after they've moved out of the outlet store.
This is an intentional limitation to maintain the special pricing structure of outlet items and former outlet items.
 

"For our creative 3D projects, we offer powerful modeling and rendering capabilities through Daz Studio, Hexagon, and Carrara."

Victoria forgot Bryce ... (I do have Studio, Hexagon and Carrara - and also Bryce).

So, earlier this morning whilst perusing the forums on my iPad, I accidentally touched a strange hieroglyph that opened up a magical text box to a wonderous new entity by the name of "Victoria"... being that we both share the same root name (Victor), I figured this Victoria must be a truly wonderful being... after all if popular culture is any indicator, anyone named Victor is either a mad scientist or a Russian mobster... Right there before me was the future of internetdom... so with my curiosity piqued and my expectations in a small Tupperware container, I proceeded to engage with the well trained (presumably meaning she doesn't bite people or mess carpets) "Victoria" and her promises of assistance or something like that...

This is my short, but enlightening experience with the future of forumdom and question asking...

I'm not entirely disappointed, because as I mentioned earlier, my expectations were well contained within a Tupperware container made of late 60s polyethylene, which we all know was designed to survive a nuclear holocaust... so my expectations remained unharmed (but they did smell like old Lasgna)... (remember to throughly check that the dishwasher has done a reasonable job cleaning your Tupperware before placing your expectations inside)... I guess I should have tried asking Victoria about electrovisual simulations of three dimensional objects within the confines of a software based environment or something like that, but I was giddy with the prospect of the future of question asking and virtual beings that can assist us in our every query and postulation.

But alas... my enthusiasm was quickly dissipated much like the enthusiasm of two overly friendly canines on the front lawn engaged in activities not approved for general audiences who are subject to the cold water from the hose of a disapproving spectator.

Anyway... I have no idea how long that hieroglyph has been there of if perhaps everyone on the forums has been replaced by AI representations of forum users and this was all an AI hallucination, because I'm now an algorithmic representation of some weirdo who dresses hamsters up in period costumes to have them reenact famous historical battles from Ancient Greece (the WW2 maritime battles got too expensive with the increase in the price of steel... you'd be surprised at how expensive a hamster scale aircraft carrier can be... and forget about the carrier based aircraft... hamsters are terrible pilots and crash them continuously... they are almost as bad as chihuahuas at flying)... 

Anyway, anyway... I guess I have stuff to do and you all probably have virtual representations of forum user stuff to do too, so I should probably end this rambling post with an appropriate closing salutation...

Buh-bye peeps.

That is Victoria 9: https://www.daz3d.com/victoria-9-hd

The main promo uses her vitiligo variant and in the images you linked she's wearing makeup so her freckles are covered.

felis said:

There has been some fuss about a Genesis 9 attachment, that shall not be named...
First the geograft was expected to be in the Victoria 9 bundle, but showed up in the product Character Essentials.

When that was solved, there were discussions about corresponding textures for the provided base skins. It was said to be added, but later that Daz had no such plans, as it apparently not was suitable for minors.

At some point in time there will emerge third party products to fill that gap.

But I thought, that I might be able to refit the UV layout to match the body surface, and with some fiddling around I got a result, and it looked fine to me. For obvious reasons I can't show the result.
But I have attached the refitted UV map, that must be properly placed in a content library.

Process for use:
1) Load your G9F and skin material
2) Attach the geograft
3) Change the shader of the geograft to SkinPBR (was at least needed for me)
4) Copy the Body surface to the geograft
5) Change the UV for the geograft to 'G9_f_gens_body_UV'

For the female it is fairly straight forward to change the UV to match the body texture, for the male not so much, as there is more visible material to be covered. I might try if I can find a way that seems feasible.

I don't know if you're still around but just wanted to say thank you for this amazing trick, it's the only thing that works with the default anatomical elements as far as I know.

I tried the tips below and the outcome is bad...

Leana said:

You need to install a V4 clone for G8F to autofit V4 clothes to G8F directly, only clones from Genesis 1 and up are included in G8F base.

V4 clone:

https://www.daz3d.com/sy-victoria-4-and-michael-4-clones-for-genesis-8

There's also this batch converter:

https://www.daz3d.com/rssy-clothing-converter-from-victoria-4-to-genesis-8-female

 

Another option is to convert in two steps: first autofit from V4 to Genesis 1, save the G1 version of the clothes, then autofit the G1 version to G8F.

well Safari was useless

maybe I should have asked the Victoria chatbot here 

fragrent dress (we cross posted) sounds odd

My prompt:

Please request Daz for a change to the chatbot so that the widget must be enabled via checkbox in the settings in order to appear.

Victoria:

I understand you'd like the chatbot widget to be optional through a settings checkbox. This is actually a feature request that has been discussed in our community forums.

One of our forum members made a similar product improvement request, specifically asking for the chatbot to be "off by default on mobile devices and so it may be turned on by a setting if the user wants it," noting that it takes up considerable screen space on mobile.

To submit your feature request directly to our development team, I'd recommend posting it in the Product Suggestions section of our forums where our team actively reviews community feedback for potential improvements.

...so slightly different answer/solution than what the previous commenter got.

 Victoria the chatbot has now made a ticket to look into my 5 month old unanswered ticket to sales.  Not holding my breath, will let you know if I get any kind of response or resolution with artificial intervention.