plasma_ring said:

Daikatana said:

OK, after reading through this thread, I have three points to put forward:

1) G8.1/Victoria 8.1is more of an update with extended/changed functionality than a completely new figure.  Not sure why we should be paying full price for an updated version.  Also the neck seam issue and the issue surrounding geoshells ( used most often for makeup and tattoos) are problematic to say the least.

Victoria 8.1 costs the same as the other core characters, I think, and she herself is an entirely new character--not because she's 8.1, but because she's a new sculpt with her own bundle and addons and that's the price they charge for those. They seem to have used the Victoria 8 name to mark the 8.1 release, but she's basically just the first original character released with 8.1 features and not an upgrade to the original Victoria 8 figure. 

GF8.1, on the other hand, is a 1:1 upgrade for the original G8F figure. It probably would have caused less confusion if they'd released both the male and female base figures up front and concentrated all messaging on the base upgrade. 

Fair point. Thank you for correcting. :)

Well I'm going to buy Victoria 8.1 but It's a bit offputting because one would think the basics should have the basics.

a) Base Genesis 8.1 Female should have eyebrow-less texture with fibre eyebrows.

b) Base Genesis 8.1 Female should have vellum hair

c) Base Genesis 8.1 Female should have fully realized skin materials set as Victoria 8.1 has.

d) Even though Base Genesis 8.1 Female won't have the Genesis 8.1 Female Anatomical Elements it should have the skin materials for that item and I guess now that the Genisis 8.1 Male Anatomical Elements are compatible with the Base Genesis 8.1 Female a skin material set should be included for that as well. Is this because they are free and so not behind a pay wall that verifies the payer is adult? Plenty of kids have bank accounts and credit cards with more money than I got. 

And likewise for the Base Genesis 8.1 Male character relative to Michael 8.1.

So I'll buy the Victoria 8.1 because I happen to like her & her tatoos, my new paid favorite excluding toon characters, but the missing vellum/body hair, missing fibre eyebrows, and incomplete skin materials in the Base Genesis 8.1 Female is problematic. The Base Genesis 8/8.1 Female and Base Genesis 8/8.1 Male are amounting to the best Genesis 8/8.1 characters available.

Daikatana said:

OK, after reading through this thread, I have three points to put forward:

1) G8.1/Victoria 8.1is more of an update with extended/changed functionality than a completely new figure.  Not sure why we should be paying full price for an updated version.  Also the neck seam issue and the issue surrounding geoshells ( used most often for makeup and tattoos) are problematic to say the least.

Victoria 8.1 costs the same as the other core characters, I think, and she herself is an entirely new character--not because she's 8.1, but because she's a new sculpt with her own bundle and addons and that's the price they charge for those. They seem to have used the Victoria 8 name to mark the 8.1 release, but she's basically just the first original character released with 8.1 features and not an upgrade to the original Victoria 8 figure. 

GF8.1, on the other hand, is a 1:1 upgrade for the original G8F figure. It probably would have caused less confusion if they'd released both the male and female base figures up front and concentrated all messaging on the base upgrade. 

thd777 said:

I quite like the update and the new version of Victoria. It is easy to use any of the 8.0 characters and clothing. They just work. One can also convert everything to the new SkinPBR shader with a little bit of map moving and adjusting. Here is one of my favorite G8F characters (a modiffied version of Sangiart's Emmeline) loaded onto G8.1 and Skinshader switched to the new one.

Ciao

TD

Looks great!

Oso3D said:

Someone posted comparison of Demon Dog original vs. PBRSkin. Something seemed off.

Here's my take; the right is PBRSkin only on the skin (IE: not eyes, teeth, horns), mostly using settings from Victoria 8.1 skin. I had to darken translucency color a little and lower dual lobe weight, but otherwise fairly straightforward. I could also have played with microtexture more, and it really gives me ideas for things to experiment with in other skins.

I think you forgot your picture. 

RexRed said:

I am logged into the store and it is still offering me the University Bundle for a discounted price

even though I have already bought it, the Victoria 8.1 University Bundle is listed in my purchase invoice

and none of the Daz Originals  or Genesis 8 items are showing as 50 or 60% off in my cart.

They are showing as the full price. 

Anyone know why this sale is not working for me?

Thx :)

 I don't know ... sometimes the new messages just hang around for awhile.

BUT ... did you have this outfit in your basket at the same time? It's free if you did. Put in a CSTicket if you missed it.

Usually for items to be showing at a % off, they need to be in the cart at the same time. I don't see this ad though to which you are referring. There's a jungle of ads though, maybe I missed it.

Closing this as it is not really a Daz Studio issue. There is a very active thread here https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/466416/genesis-8-1-victoria-8-1/

ACue said:

Can someone confirm?

I am running Studio 4.12. I downloaded and installed - through DIM -  the new Genesis 8 Male and Female Starter Essentials files. 

As noted, the Genesis 8.1 Basic Female figure now appears in my People/G8F folder. The new figures takes G8F hair and clothes and one can apply regular G8F skin shaders.

However, none of the regular G8F and regular Victoria 8 characters are not available. I assume it is because:

1. one needs to purchase the new 8.1 character?

2. one needs to install Studio 4.15 beta or Pro?

Yes, Genesis 8.1 uses features that are not present in DS 4.12.x.x

Can someone confirm or clarify?

 

Someone posted comparison of Demon Dog original vs. PBRSkin. Something seemed off.

Here's my take; the right is PBRSkin only on the skin (IE: not eyes, teeth, horns), mostly using settings from Victoria 8.1 skin. I had to darken translucency color a little and lower dual lobe weight, but otherwise fairly straightforward. I could also have played with microtexture more, and it really gives me ideas for things to experiment with in other skins.

I quite like the update and the new version of Victoria. It is easy to use any of the 8.0 characters and clothing. They just work. One can also convert everything to the new SkinPBR shader with a little bit of map moving and adjusting. Here is one of my favorite G8F characters (a modiffied version of Sangiart's Emmeline) loaded onto G8.1 and Skinshader switched to the new one.

Ciao

TD

Genesis 8.1 Female has been released by DAZ today.  I have provided updates for all four Genesis 8 Female Legacy UVs products: Victoria 4, Victoria 5, Victoria 6 and Genesis 2 Female, and they should be available now through DIM and other download methods.  The scripts have been amended to accommodate the new figure and surface changes, and there are new UV Sets for the new 8.1 Eyelashes mesh.  The operation of the products should be as before.  

If you have any problems or questions please let me know.

Can someone confirm?

I am running Studio 4.12. I downloaded and installed - through DIM -  the new Genesis 8 Male and Female Starter Essentials files. 

As noted, the Genesis 8.1 Basic Female figure now appears in my People/G8F folder. The new figures takes G8F hair and clothes and one can apply regular G8F skin shaders.

However, none of the regular G8F and regular Victoria 8 characters are not available. I assume it is because:

1. one needs to purchase the new 8.1 character?

2. one needs to install Studio 4.15 beta or Pro?

Can someone confirm or clarify?

Valkeerie said:

There is so much negativity on this thread it is difficult to judge what is going on. So here we have
 - Studio 4.15
 - 8.1 base figure
 - BJ Noemi Morphs
 - BJ Noemi skin
 - OOT hair (chosen to keep the face clear)
So I can use G8 as before, and I can use G8 content on G8.1 should I choose. If I use G8.1 as a base I get the new expression  stuff, and I can use the Face Control interface. Which is cool. The only thing to note is the new eyelashes, which are a little OTT, but I could have removed them and used the Noemi set instead.
All this is orthogonal to the decision of whether or not to purchase Victoria 8.1 and the other items. The figure is okay, the other items are weak.
So my interpretation of the new changes is "small earthquake, not many dead"

Wowza.  And I don't even like girls....

5 minutes to load G8F 8.1

10+ minutes to load Victoria 8.1

This could be the beginning of a beautiful relationship... >_>

From V8.1 Product Page

"Key advancements with the Genesis 8.1-based Victoria 8.1 include...Other Improvements (Read More) Fine, short hairs are added to the female face and body..."

Also, a screenshot from the campaign page.

Maybe reword it to say "Sold separately"?

Wicked Whomp said:

So I'm a bit confused. I'm debating whether or not to purchase the Victoria 8.1 bundle, and I noticed that it states that it includes both male and female anatomical elements, and I was wondering whether that is correct, or perhaps a fumble? It's not a dealbreaker for me either way, I'd just like to know what I would actually get. Thanks!

 It did put both male and female in my product library.

Cayman Studios said:

Hylas said:

ChangelingChick said:

Hylas said:

Used one of Cayman's Legacy UV products on a G8.1 - the scripts don't work ("Prepare Genesis 8") but you can still make the product work with some manual fiddling. Slightly more laborous but not really difficult.

Ahhh I didn't realize it was script based. 

One can use the product without the scripts. But the scrips are a helpful shortcut, perhaps there will be an update? Would be lovely.

I have done updates for all four Genesis 8 Female Legacy UVs products, and they should be available now for DIM and other download methods.  The scripts had to be altered slightly, and there are new UVs for the 8.1 Eyelashes mesh.  But the operation should be pretty much as before. 

awesome, thank you ^^ 

RCTSpanky said:

Richard Haseltine said:

RCTSpanky said:

If 8.1 is "just" an update, why did we need to pay again for her the full price, when we own Victoria 8 or one of her bundles?

Genesis 8.1 Female is free. Victoria 8.1 is a new character that uses Genesis 8.1 Female, it isn't an update of Victoria 8 (anymore than Victoria 8 was an update of Victoria 7). Each named character is a new entity, even if it is in the style of a previous character of the same name.

So, she is no update, but why did the webssite say, she is... very confusing.

I have also updated my DAZ Studio via the Install Manager with the updated Starter Sets and the latest Studio Version, but can't find any basic 8.1 character? More questions than helpful answers.

Genesis 8.1 Female is an updated version, that does not replace, Genesis 8 Female - it has new surface goruping and a new UV set, alongside the existing ones. Victoria 8.1 is a new character.

Cayman Studios said:

Hylas said:

ChangelingChick said:

Hylas said:

Used one of Cayman's Legacy UV products on a G8.1 - the scripts don't work ("Prepare Genesis 8") but you can still make the product work with some manual fiddling. Slightly more laborous but not really difficult.

Ahhh I didn't realize it was script based. 

One can use the product without the scripts. But the scrips are a helpful shortcut, perhaps there will be an update? Would be lovely.

I have done updates for all four Genesis 8 Female Legacy UVs products, and they should be available now for DIM and other download methods.  The scripts had to be altered slightly, and there are new UVs for the 8.1 Eyelashes mesh.  But the operation should be pretty much as before. 

Fantastic, thank you!

Richard Haseltine said:

RCTSpanky said:

If 8.1 is "just" an update, why did we need to pay again for her the full price, when we own Victoria 8 or one of her bundles?

Genesis 8.1 Female is free. Victoria 8.1 is a new character that uses Genesis 8.1 Female, it isn't an update of Victoria 8 (anymore than Victoria 8 was an update of Victoria 7). Each named character is a new entity, even if it is in the style of a previous character of the same name.

So, she is no update, but why did the webssite say, she is... very confusing.

I have also updated my DAZ Studio via the Install Manager with the updated Starter Sets and the latest Studio Version, but can't find any basic 8.1 character? More questions than helpful answers.