Leana said:

melissastjames said:

XpiderMan said:

I just hope Daz doesn't re-release existing G8 characters and could instead focus on new ones such as Callie 8.1, Scott 8.1, Giannia 8.1, etc. :)

I'm still not understanding...they haven't "re-released" any existing characters. Victoria 7 has about as much in common with Victoria 8 as she has  with Olympia. They are all completely different characters...the only thing they share is the name. Victoria 7 looks nothing like Victoria 8 who looks nothing like Victoria 8.1. 

I think OP meant they hope Daz would focus on core characters we have not had yet with G8 (named characters from previous generations who don't have an equivalent or totally new ones) rather than revisit the ones we already have (which could be interesting too, mind you)

To be honest, I wouldn't hate it if they gave Mike and Josie a makeover like they gave Vicky.  Like Vicky, I'd never use those base characters alone.

melissastjames said:

XpiderMan said:

I just hope Daz doesn't re-release existing G8 characters and could instead focus on new ones such as Callie 8.1, Scott 8.1, Giannia 8.1, etc. :)

I'm still not understanding...they haven't "re-released" any existing characters. Victoria 7 has about as much in common with Victoria 8 as she has  with Olympia. They are all completely different characters...the only thing they share is the name. Victoria 7 looks nothing like Victoria 8 who looks nothing like Victoria 8.1. 

I think OP meant they hope Daz would focus on core characters we have not had yet with G8 (named characters from previous generations who don't have an equivalent or totally new ones) rather than revisit the ones we already have (which could be interesting too, mind you, but we already have core characters to cover that concept/genre/niche so they'd rater have different characters first)

Richard Haseltine said:

Not sure if anyone else has announced this yet, but since it's been a hot topic: we have been told that the Velus etc. hair will be added to the Victoria 8.1 Base for new and existing purchasers sometime today. It will also be included with future 8.1 base characters.

Wonderful! Thank you for the heads up. I've been waffling back and forth on picking up one of the bundles to get the hair as well knowing there is nothing (save for the new dForfe hair released today which looks wonderful) that I'll ever use but I want the character. I'm happy to know I can still get the hairs with the base character. 

NylonGirl said:

So it's the 8.0 character that is too bright, and the 8.1 character is not too dark? Because it would suck if adjusting exposure for Victoria 8.1 meant every character released before 2021 comes out too bright in the same scene.

Yeah, the V8.1 skin sure seems to suck in light.  But so does real skin.  And yeah, some adjustments will be needed if you have mismatched skin shaders in a scene. 

NylonGirl said:

So it's the 8.0 character that is too bright, and the 8.1 character is not too dark? Because it would suck if adjusting exposure for Victoria 8.1 meant every character released before 2021 comes out too bright in the same scene.

I wouldn't deem them too bright, or too dark. Skins can be adjusted to look in a variety of styles.

what i dont understand is paying for the same character twice, once in each bundle, or does the new banner give a discount for owning 1st bundle.of 8.1 Victoria

melissastjames said:

Richard Haseltine said:

Not sure if anyone else has announced this yet, but since it's been a hot topic: we have been told that the Velus etc. hair will be added to the Victoria 8.1 Base for new and existing purchasers sometime today. It will also be included with future 8.1 base characters.

Haha ok, so I bought yesterday's bundle for nothing, then. Oh well. Not submitting another ticket.  

I did the same, debating if I should return the bundle and then purchase V8.1 or just keep it because I also used my PC+ coupon  but then again I paid 52.34 for the bundle plus 30% exchange and didn't really have a need for the other products and if I had just purchased V8.1 it would have been closer to 22.00 so 30 some dollars difference for what I bought and what I actually wanted. 

So it's the 8.0 character that is too bright, and the 8.1 character is not too dark? Because it would suck if adjusting exposure for Victoria 8.1 meant every character released before 2021 comes out too bright in the same scene.

XpiderMan said:

I just hope Daz doesn't re-release existing G8 characters and could instead focus on new ones such as Callie 8.1, Scott 8.1, Giannia 8.1, etc. :)

I'm still not understanding...they haven't "re-released" any existing characters. Victoria 7 has about as much in common with Victoria 8 as she has  with Olympia. They are all completely different characters...the only thing they share is the name. Victoria 7 looks nothing like Victoria 8 who looks nothing like Victoria 8.1. 

Mazak said:

Diese Figur ist bisher die hässlichste Victoria die ich bisher gesehen habe, Gesicht wie ein Frosch, Figur wie eine Tonne, und Brüste von einem Huhn. (frei nach Al Bundy)

This figure is so far the ugliest Victoria I have seen, face like a frog, figure like a ton, and breasts of a chicken. (loosely based on Al Bundy)

 

Mazak

Ha, all about beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Attractive, realistic looking figure, including breasts; her face has both character and is pleasing to behold.

Drip said:

I guess I'll bite for Victoria 8.1 and Michael 8.1, but if Daz is going to *sell* an 8.1 update for all other G8 characters, then they can forget about it.

Would still be interested in Lilith 8.1 and Cat 8.1 though. Lilith 7 was great, so I wanted a Lilith 8 since the beginning of Genesis 8. And a Cat for generation 8 is also loooooong overdue.

I do like the new look for Victoria with 8.1, and I pprobably pick her up when they have a good sale or freebie on her.   In terms of 8.1 figures besides her that I have 8.0 versions for already, naw, I will not rebuy them.   I'm terms of of a release of "7" series characters , my picks would be Rune 7 and Ophelia 7.   These have been dropped from the Gen 8.0 line and I would like to see them again as 8.1 figures.  Both were beautifully made and I like thie r muscular detailing over many of the Gen 8 figures.   In terms of the men, I would like to see Lee 8.1, but as he looked in his 7 series look.   The Gen 8 took a step back with him.

Joe2018 said:

I think the only error that DAZ made ist to name the Figur Victoria. If they had chosen another name, I think this thread will be about 50% shorter. (Hope you understand me, english is not my native language)

I agree.

I suppose calling her Victoria 8.1 made sense from a marketing point of view, as the first female character for their female figures(or the figure herself, befor the Genesis line) has been "Victoria" for years.

But since 8.1 is an update and not a new generation it also gave the wrong idea that she was an update of V8, which she isn't.

XpiderMan said:

Richard Haseltine said:

vrba79 said:

Now they're charging for incremental, slight upgrades? Nah, I'm good with Genesis 1 and 2.

The updates to Genesis 8.1 are free, additional content (such as Victoria 8.1 and the Velus hair) is new content, not tweaked old content.

I'm afraid I'll pass as well. Paying full price for a figure I already have just because it has some tweaks doesn't make sense. If this was pre-COVID-19, I would had fallen for it, but lately I've been more careful with my expenses. Sorry Daz. :(

Again, Victoria 8.1 is a new character with different morphs and different textures, not "Victoria 8 tweaked for G8.1". Just like Victoria 8 wan't simply a G8F version of Victoria 7. She's basically another core character.

Of course if you're not interested in the new character then don't buy her, but nobody is asking you to pay for "a figure you already have".

I was looking at this product page and really liked the hair style. I thought I recognized it and I was half right.

https://www.daz3d.com/the-expression-collection-for-victoria-81

I know the bangs are from the Mega UpDo product but the back is long. There are no options for long hair in the back with that set. My best guess is that they loaded the bangs from Mega Updo and then some other hair product? But I can't figure how without it clashing with whatever front hair that product has. Mega Updo is the only hair product I can think of that loads in 3 zones.

I'd love to hear some opinions because the look of that hair in the promo is a great look.

Richard Haseltine said:

Not sure if anyone else has announced this yet, but since it's been a hot topic: we have been told that the Velus etc. hair will be added to the Victoria 8.1 Base for new and existing purchasers sometime today. It will also be included with future 8.1 base characters.

Thanks a lot for announcing this, and thanks to DAZ for doing right by us and releasing the vellus hair for us V8.1 buyers as locking this feature behind a $100+ paywall was not sitting well with folks!

If you look at the shape she is essentiall just Genesis 8 base more defined. In that sense she has nothing in common with Victoria 8.

pickett_chuck_d8cad7ed95 said:

I know I should read this whole thread first, but am going to try and ask this question anyway. Just purchased the University Bundle and have updated the essentials, both auto and manually (it first asked me to and then just to make sure because my content is on another drive). I click on Victoria 8.1 and it comes up and looks textured in texture view but when I use Iray view it looks completely white like there's a geo shell. I can add the genesis female 8.1 textures, but shouldn't the Victoria 8.1 come up like all the other characters I click on, or do I need new special shaders or something. Thanks

I had that Problem too, after updating daz to 4.15 it worked.

Joe2018 said:

I think the only error that DAZ made ist to name the Figur Victoria. If they had chosen another name, I think this thread will be about 50% shorter. (Hope you understand me, english is not my native language)

You make enough sense and I think a very large majority of people (if not everyone) would agree with you. Though I understand their use of Victoria, I do think a different name would have gone a long way in clearing up a lot of misunderstanding and confusion. 

I think the only error that DAZ made ist to name the Figur Victoria. If they had chosen another name, I think this thread will be about 50% shorter. (Hope you understand me, english is not my native language)

XpiderMan said:

I'm afraid I'll pass as well. Paying full price for a figure I already have

Do what you like with your money, but the only thing Victoria 8 and Victoria 8.1 have in common is the name "Victoria".