Presumo che tu voglia usare i personaggi in Unity per fare un videogioco... Ebbene, non puoi farlo senza una licenza specifica. Ne trovi un paio nello store ma coprono solo una piccola parte dei prodotti disponibili (nella fatispecie una licenza copre solo i prodotti un determinato artista).

In realtà no, non devo farne un videogioco. Ho bisogno di metterlo in unity per avere una previsualizzazione di un personaggio in tempo reale, ma è uno strumento che non viene in alcun modo distribuito, commercializzato o reso pubblico. Credo che per un utilizzo di questo genere, che alla fine genera delle immagini, non serva una licenza. E' corretto?

Detto questo, ti spiego un pochino le figure di DAZ, che in fondo sono simili a quelle di Morph3D.

Genesis 1/2/3 sono le figure base polivalenti, significa che puoi applicare numerosi morph su un solo modello utilizzando nel contempo tutti gli accessori per quella famiglia e anche delle altre sfruttando i "clone".
Per esempio Genesis 3 usa tutti gli abiti ad esso dedicati, più quelli di Genesis 2. Usando i Clone puoi usare anche quelli di Genesis 1.
Victoria 5/6/7 è la "Ragazza base" da utilizzare su Genesis 3 Female. non è necessario possederla per usare i morph collegati a lei ma rendono meglio. Discorso simile vale per i vari Michael.

Spero di non averti incasinato ancora di più... Se hai altri dubbi, chiedi pure!

In effetti ancora mi sfugge qualche cosa sulle Victoria. Se sono modelli che derivano da Genesis 3 Female, in realtà non potrei arrivare allo stesso aspetto fisico tramite i morph? La questione dei "clone" mi è ancora abbastanza oscura. Cos'è che sono?
Ma quindi, DAZ con i personaggi, per cosa viene usato? Per fare rendering e basta, o anche per altro? Se non viene usato per creare personaggi per videogiochi, non mi è chiaro in quali contesti sia utilizzato.

GRAZIE!

Presumo che tu voglia usare i personaggi in Unity per fare un videogioco... Ebbene, non puoi farlo senza una licenza specifica. Ne trovi un paio nello store ma coprono solo una piccola parte dei prodotti disponibili (nella fatispecie una licenza copre solo i prodotti un determinato artista).

Per fare giochi non devi usare DAZ ma questo: https://www.morph3d.com/
E' un sistema simile ai personaggi DAZ ma completamente staccati, nel senso che i modelli di Moprh3D non funzionano in DAZ e viceversa. Dai un occhio li e vedi se è quello che ti serve!

Detto questo, ti spiego un pochino le figure di DAZ, che in fondo sono simili a quelle di Morph3D.

Genesis 1/2/3 sono le figure base polivalenti, significa che puoi applicare numerosi morph su un solo modello utilizzando nel contempo tutti gli accessori per quella famiglia e anche delle altre sfruttando i "clone".
Per esempio Genesis 3 usa tutti gli abiti ad esso dedicati, più quelli di Genesis 2. Usando i Clone puoi usare anche quelli di Genesis 1.
Victoria 5/6/7 è la "Ragazza base" da utilizzare su Genesis 3 Female. non è necessario possederla per usare i morph collegati a lei ma rendono meglio. Discorso simile vale per i vari Michael.
Victoria 4 è la vecchia figura femminile base di DAZ. E' precedente alla tecnologia Genesis, quindi funzioneranno SOLO gli accessori dedicati a lei e, in alcuni casi, quelli delle "Victoria Compatibili", cioè quelle figure che hanno come base Victoria 4. Anche in questo caso il discorso è lo stesso per Michael.

Spero di non averti incasinato ancora di più... Se hai altri dubbi, chiedi pure!

Some thoughts on recent purchases:

-FaceGen: Finally getting borderline competent with it. I got into Daz many years ago, after becoming obsessed with the character creation component of Elder Scrolls: Oblivion, which uses an earlier version of FaceGen. So the dials for tweaking your creations are actually pretty familiar to me. Best practices: you need to place the target points as symmetrically as possible relative to each other, not necessarily relative to the person's face. On the skin tab and the demographics tab, dial down the "caricature" amount significantly for faces that look more recognizable and less ridiculous in the cold hard light of Iray.

-Genevieve 7 . Lovely morph, skin with very narrow applications, kind of like Ivan in that it only works for a character who is a very specific degree of hard-living or "seedy," Makeup option are not great. Memo to all PAs and people playing with Skin Builder 3: eyeshadow and lipstick are not supposed to be THE SAME COLOR, they're supposed to complement each other. Five minutes on google will tell you that. If you have both Genevieve and Mika, try Mika's skin on Genevieve, you'll like Genevieve a lot better that way. For all the flak Dante takes, I still think he has a better skin than Genevieve.

-Skin Builder 3: fast and idiot-proof. Fun to play with, kind of like LAMH or Optitex Dynamics without the crashes and frustration. Not likely to use it as a merchant resource, since what I want out of a skin is not what most customer want.

-Angel Armor: complicated to apply, because there's a ton of pieces, but it is gorgeous. Hope @midnight_stories makes enough money to justify making a male version too. I was a little worried that the chest decorations would come off as crass, but they looked fine on Aiko 7.

-Fantasy Shapes for Genesis 3: I like these, because they remind me of the old M4/V4 creature creator morphs, with more options. Have only played briefly, though.

-Rivertina: Only played with it briefly. Very attractive and dignified Steampunk/Clockpunk outfit for G3F. Hoping for some more flamboyant textures. 

Genesis 2 clothes, bought cheaply to convert to Genesis 3 using Wear Them All:

-Chandrani: converts well, except for the shoes. Lovely, semi-authentic Indian/Pakistani outfit, with lots of pose controls.

-Diamond Glitter: Incredibly cute Steampunk/Clockpunk/Squaresoft (Squarepunk? LOL) outfit. Converts well, except for the heels on the shoes, which are so cute I want to learn more about rigidity nodes/maps just to make them work. Tempted to convert the more androgynous pieces (not corset or bustle, but the rest of it) to G3M.

-The Swashbuckler: Wow, a blouse with functional morphs for closing up as well as opening. What a concept! Very attractive take on a "female Sinbad" type outfit. Converts well to G3F, even the boots play nice. Less successful at converting to G3M-shirt keeps clipping through the torso.

-MechGear: Conversion went better than expected. Parent the mechanized boots (without fit to) to the shins, the cuirass to the upper chest and the backmounted sword prop to the cuirass. May need to hide hands once you get the gloves converted. Everything else "fits to" surprisingly well, although I will probably have to lock the pose controls on G3F's feet and lower chest for best results. Thank you, @SickleYield and @TheAntfarm! Looking forward to messing with the G2M version.

Other conversions:

-Lollipop Hair and Hadara Hair, converted from V4 to Genesis 1 to G3F. Mesh came out slightly crumpled at neck after V4/Genesis 1 conversion: not horrible, just made two very sleek, tidy hairstyles look messy. I've converted Genesis versions of late-era 3Dream/Mairy hairstyles to Genesis 3 relatively successfully, so this is a problem specific to hair older than that. Moral of the story: always parent pre-Genesis hair to a figure it's not designed for.

So... Hybrid Queen for V4: https://www.daz3d.com/hybrid-queen-for-v4  I noticed that it's a CR2 figure. Does this mean that it's a morph injection that uses V4 or...? Because it seems like it has materials and a head attachment from the promo image.

A .cr2 is a rigged figure file in Poser. It proboably uses the .obj files that come with V4 so you do need her to use it and it probably contains it's own morphs so it doesn't need a .pz2 to inject the morphs.

Connect does not automatically encrypt files, it is the asinine "Cloud" folder and placing every item in its own sub-folder that breaks referencing files.  I morph the heck out my characters when used in scenes and they still only take about a minute to load

For Victoria 4/Michael 4 this si potentially an issue - which is why those are no Connect-ready. For Genesis or later there is no issue with the way the files are split, it has always been possible to have support assets for a figure spread across multiple content directories. Some add-ons with hard-coded relative paths in scripts can be an issue, as they could if moved under a non-Connect install, butt hose will fail on first load and are the exceptions.

Rob has a sample script showing how scripts can get an absolute location from a relative path even if isntalled via Connect http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/software/dazstudio/4/referenceguide/scripting/api_reference/samples/file_io/file_find/start

Then those morphs do not adjust rig automatic to fit current morphed shape, then if you change shape drastically by morph ,  you may need to set eye rig

by joint editor  sub menu > edit> Adjust rigging to the shape option,  to locate eye rig  correctly. 

thanks Stezza, but there has to be an inbuilt morph :) ? love your work as usual

So... Hybrid Queen for V4: https://www.daz3d.com/hybrid-queen-for-v4  I noticed that it's a CR2 figure. Does this mean that it's a morph injection that uses V4 or...? Because it seems like it has materials and a head attachment from the promo image.

Hybrid Queen for V4. Comes with the main suit and a prop, the back tubes. The suit has six surface zones, ArmsLegs, ChestPlate, HeadMain, Hip, NeckPiece and Tubes. The prop for the back (which actually consists of four props), has a surface area for each back tube. There are no morph injections. Fit it to your v4. There are no Mats for V4 and the suit and prop itself uses diffuse maps that can be changed to any difuse color or, find your favorite shader.

 

 

LOL that's totally not what I was expecting, but I suppose I can make it work :) Thank you!

You're welcome!

Making a cute Mil3 baby face has been a bit of a challenge for me. One of these days I'll get around to buying the CDI set for this little figure.

There were nice freebies for the PT Girl, like the Miko uniform.

 

The Miko Uniform is still available: http://web.archive.org/web/20061017162942/http://digitalbabes2.com/~yamato/MilGirl.html

Wanna see a very old render (2008) of the Milbaby3 in DazStudio?

A child's fantasy

Credits:
Milbaby3
Lily (texture) - Thorne and Sarsa (morph by me)
Dazzling gaze - TiffT785
Ysaris hair - AprilYSH
Omaru - Batlab (limited time freebie)
Mute Swan - ContentParadise
Niké's Place#1 - vikike176
Weeping Willows - Paleman
Pondlife plants - Lisa Buckalew
Water displacement map - mcvdaz
Background - Jean-Luc Ajrarn

 

Funnily enough, I've actually been crafting a potty similar to that Mute Swan discontinued prop, though mine is meant to be more of a cartoon duck than a swan. Can't really promise I'll have it up for grabs anytime soon, though... I was mainly creating it for OpenSIm virtual worlds, but I could easily pop it onto shareCG when I feel satisfied with the build itself.

So... Hybrid Queen for V4: https://www.daz3d.com/hybrid-queen-for-v4  I noticed that it's a CR2 figure. Does this mean that it's a morph injection that uses V4 or...? Because it seems like it has materials and a head attachment from the promo image.

Hybrid Queen for V4. Comes with the main suit and a prop, the back tubes. The suit has six surface zones, ArmsLegs, ChestPlate, HeadMain, Hip, NeckPiece and Tubes. The prop for the back (which actually consists of four props), has a surface area for each back tube. There are no morph injections. Fit it to your v4. There are no Mats for V4 and the suit and prop itself uses diffuse maps that can be changed to any difuse color or, find your favorite shader.

okay I have a question how the heck do you save a material for the centuar body ??I've been making some toony skins for the horse half but can't figure out how to save them so that they will apply to both the body and the geoshell ........with out having to hand load the textures ....It's possible cause the skins that come with the centuar load on the geoshell as well as the body .......I know I'm missing something but can't figure it out .......kinda like I'd really like a morph to lenghten the legs .....can't figure that out either ......ugh!!help please

 

Have G3M selected and save as a Heirarchical Material instead of a material. Check the pieces you want to include in the file.

Oooooh. I didn't know that. Thanks CC! :D

Laurie

Here are the links:

Aiko 3.0 morph and map = https://www.daz3d.com/aiko-3-0-morphs-and-maps

Akemi for Aiko = http://web.archive.org/web/20060315111208/http://www.daz3d.com/shop.php?op=itemdetails&item=2881

[Akemi by Lucie is no longer sold it seems ]

Kioki = https://www.daz3d.com/kioki

Saeko A3 by Lalita = https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/saeko/35487

[Saeko is no longer sold it seems]

Aiko 3 eyes = https://www.daz3d.com/aiko-3-0-eyes

Hair Bob is a freebie by Mato over at poserclub.net Japan = http://poserclub-cab.net/pf/free-staff/others-2/kururu/f448/

Sailor Sleeve set by Aio = https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?ViewProduct=44356

[This uniform is no longer available please try contacting the seller at renderosity send him a note.]

Dumb Or Anime Eyes for Victoria 3 = https://web.archive.org/web/20060925192216/http://jjdelpy.free.fr/Poser/doaeyes.html

We will try to work around it in the next upcoming days...

No, a morph injection would be a pz2 file, I believe. Cr2 is a rigged figure, like a character, clothing...or a rigged (as opposed to morphing, parented prop) hairstyle. The latter is what the thing *seems* most like, that or a rigged helmet.

So... Hybrid Queen for V4: https://www.daz3d.com/hybrid-queen-for-v4  I noticed that it's a CR2 figure. Does this mean that it's a morph injection that uses V4 or...? Because it seems like it has materials and a head attachment from the promo image.

The V4/M4 I think is my issue,  That makes sense now.

I have been migrating off of those older figures anyway.  So now that I know what the issue is, I will use GenX to transfer the shapes and leave them behind.

I tested a morph load against the object file I started with (IE: not modified), and it's fine. The facets are showing the same values. I've shut off smoothing and everything I can think of to keep it the same.

I'm flummoxed.

 

Usually if morph loader won't load something it means you either added/deleted a vertex somewhere or somehow changed the vertex order. Hard to say without seeing the two models though.

Connect does not automatically encrypt files, it is the asinine "Cloud" folder and placing every item in its own sub-folder that breaks referencing files.  I morph the heck out my characters when used in scenes and they still only take about a minute to load

For Victoria 4/Michael 4 this si potentially an issue - which is why those are no Connect-ready. For Genesis or later there is no issue with the way the files are split, it has always been possible to have support assets for a figure spread across multiple content directories. Some add-ons with hard-coded relative paths in scripts can be an issue, as they could if moved under a non-Connect install, butt hose will fail on first load and are the exceptions.

Does someone allready saved the morph selections for G3F Head and Body Morphs and would be willing to share the file?

Connect does not automatically encrypt files, it is the asinine "Cloud" folder and placing every item in its own sub-folder that breaks referencing files.  I morph the heck out my characters when used in scenes and they still only take about a minute to load

I never said that Connect encrypts all files.  I said those that are cause a problem for me.

Can you give more details about "it is the asinine "Cloud" folder and placing every item in its own sub-folder that breaks referencing files." as I need to figure out a workaround for this.

Considering what my system is like compared to what you describe yours is like, it is obvious to me we are not doing the same things.

Connect does not automatically encrypt files, it is the asinine "Cloud" folder and placing every item in its own sub-folder that breaks referencing files.  I morph the heck out my characters when used in scenes and they still only take about a minute to load