I was able to fix the problem, but not sure why it fixed it.

1. First I saved the User Data as Richard suggested.

2. Then I logged in to DAZ Studio so that the metadata could be updated. There were about 60 products that updated.

3. I rebooted my computer after the above two steps.

4. Saved a scene in DAZ Studio without any issues.

But darned if I know what the issue was, or which step fixed it.

I'm just glad it's fixed.

Over in DAZ Studio, the import with the messed up thighs form the buttocks as seen above, but with the skin textures just off, here's Liz's head with the EXACT same pose.
As you can see, she is not melting and only really bitey.
This is, to me, proof positive that the weght map from Poser is being used. Right?

I am having problems with attempted conversion from Poser.
This is a learning experience, and they say you only learn by failing, so this should give me a doctorate right out the door because, oh boy.
 
So I take a figure that I made for and in Poser and import it to DAZ|Studio. (Or is it just Daz Studio? Did youse stop using the pipe and stuff? Is "DAZ" all caps or not? It's an acronym after all--for "DAZ Ain't Zygote", right? It looks like you did but I don't know the official stance there. Anyway.)
I import it and all seems to go well except a lot of "couldn't find weight map" messages, which were weird as you'll see in a sec.
This figure uses the "has buttocks" philosophy from long ago, because I still like that approach. It helps with sitting, even with full weight mapping, and anyway, I can wiggle my butt cheeks without moving my leg, so it seems that's a good idea to me so I stull use it.
This figure also has a jaw and the mouth can be controlled form the jaw. This is important as you'll see in the pics because it creates a weird question.
I'm importing Poser content, and it is acting like it's importing weight maps, but then... says it didn't. And then uses them.
More in continuing followup.
BTW: About me, since it's been long enough I may need some re-introduction.
I am attempting to delve into DAZ. Some of you know me, most of you who do hate me, deservedly so. You totally should. I'm afwul. Just the worst. But usually if you are familiar with it, you like my content (even if you won't admit that because you hate me), and I haven't done a lot lately, and sometimes I get ripped off by people who have too much money for me to sue; so I'm like the Harlan Ellison of consumer-grade 3D content or something. So yeah. I am trying to get back into this and make some DAZ content. I used to have beef with DAZ but honestly, I don't anymore. The people that I bumped elbows with (and who then got upset because I put on razor sharp armour after the first time) are mostly long gone, and anyway I always had way MORE beef with a certain OTHER company. So I may as well, and I have rent to try and pay and no work, and most techbro companies are hella ageist and I'm over 50 now so, yeah.

Windamyre said:

Thanks for the quick replies.  I've done a few things based on what you two said that seems to help a lot.  The clue from Richard about 'product not installed' was very useful.

• Reran the "Reimport Metadata" and "Condense Database" from the Content DB Maintenance menu.  Wouldn't have thought that would help, but SofaCitizen mentioned it and I figured I wouldn't hurt.
• Reactivated all morph packages from Turbo Loader.  It's a great utility, but it's also bolted on.  An integrated tool that can trace dependencies would be a welcome sight for Daz 5.
• Reinstalled the starter packages and a few of the base expression packs that seemed to show up a lot in the log.
• Removed Auto Face Enhancer.  I've always had problems with that product either (1) slowing my loads to a crawl or distorting faces horrifically.  Maybe I just need to work with it more.
• Removed a few (not many) 3rd party items that were kicking up some errors.

Now I'm down to a couple dozen errors that take about 10 seconds to work through.  Now the challenge is to either (1) uninstall stuff I'm not likely to use or (2) carefully use Turbo Loader to reduce load times.

For reference, here's the kind of errors I was talking about:

...

Oh!  And I'm still looking for something better than Notepad++ to view the log file.

The warning msg means: some DSON Support Files (morphs) in Zev0's Expression Smoother and Bend Control products were defined for unique characters: Stephanie 8 and Monique 8, but you didn't have them installed. You may install the characters or just ignore the messages... or deactivate (e.g. by Turbo Loader ) these DSF files.. (ES8 Angry Smoother.dsf , Smoother M8 R.dsf)

The most reliable editor software is EmEditor, IMO... I've been using it for years to resolve all these stuff... You can easily convert strings like %20 to unicode, switch encoding, change format by language, quick search and mark ... etc., like the screenshot attached... anyway it is a powerful tool..

Thanks for the quick replies.  I've done a few things based on what you two said that seems to help a lot.  The clue from Richard about 'product not installed' was very useful.

• Reran the "Reimport Metadata" and "Condense Database" from the Content DB Maintenance menu.  Wouldn't have thought that would help, but SofaCitizen mentioned it and I figured I wouldn't hurt.
• Reactivated all morph packages from Turbo Loader.  It's a great utility, but it's also bolted on.  An integrated tool that can trace dependencies would be a welcome sight for Daz 5.
• Reinstalled the starter packages and a few of the base expression packs that seemed to show up a lot in the log.
• Removed Auto Face Enhancer.  I've always had problems with that product either (1) slowing my loads to a crawl or distorting faces horrifically.  Maybe I just need to work with it more.
• Removed a few (not many) 3rd party items that were kicking up some errors.

Now I'm down to a couple dozen errors that take about 10 seconds to work through.  Now the challenge is to either (1) uninstall stuff I'm not likely to use or (2) carefully use Turbo Loader to reduce load times.

For reference, here's the kind of errors I was talking about:

2023-05-06 15:13:15.816 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6969): Formula target property not found: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Stephanie%208/FHMStephanie8.dsf#FHMStephanie8?value - in file: /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Zev0/Expression%20Smoother/ES8%20Angry%20Smoother.dsf#ES8%20Afraid%20Smoother
2023-05-06 15:13:15.816 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6969): Formula target property not found: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Monique%208/FBMMonique8.dsf#FBMMonique8_Cage?value - in file: /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Zev0/Bend%20Control/Smoother%20M8%20R.dsf#Smoother%20M8%20R

Thanks again for the help.

Oh!  And I'm still looking for something better than Notepad++ to view the log file.

crosswind said:

plarff said:

crosswind said:

plarff said:

is your Windows User a default 'Administrators  --

That will be a yes.

Is that the same case in you Render PC ? ! Also default 'Administrators' ? I ever helped a couple of my friends to fix some weird issues caming from such 'Administrators', though the issues were not related to cms but I just thought of a possibility...

Render pc also has full administrator rights and yes Render PC has no DAZ issues. I have an idea what might be happening here. I have posted a install to v4.21 issue and Richard helped or was trying to help me with where i couldn't for some reason Upgrade from v4.20 to v 4.21 using DIMS on my Work pc the one im having postgr issue's with.
I could Upgrade to v4.21 on my Render-PC so i copied the complete DAZ3d/Studio4 folder over from the Render-PC to my Work-PC Daz3d/Studio4 folder and now i can use v4.21. BUT i think this is maybe messing with the postgr and the metadata that kept updating.

It's no biggy as ive said before, just annoying. 

 Wow, that was the story ! So suggest you try in your Work PC:

1) Shut Ds, open file browser, go to the path: %AppData%\DAZ 3D\Studio4\, there's a file named 'dazstudio.dau', delete it then open Ds to see if the message still popps up;
2) If the above doesn't work, try to install a fresh Public Build version...

 

 

Ok i will try a bit later on and let you know... Once again thank you for your suport dude. 

plarff said:

crosswind said:

plarff said:

is your Windows User a default 'Administrators  --

That will be a yes.

Is that the same case in you Render PC ? ! Also default 'Administrators' ? I ever helped a couple of my friends to fix some weird issues caming from such 'Administrators', though the issues were not related to cms but I just thought of a possibility...

Render pc also has full administrator rights and yes Render PC has no DAZ issues. I have an idea what might be happening here. I have posted a install to v4.21 issue and Richard helped or was trying to help me with where i couldn't for some reason Upgrade from v4.20 to v 4.21 using DIMS on my Work pc the one im having postgr issue's with.
I could Upgrade to v4.21 on my Render-PC so i copied the complete DAZ3d/Studio4 folder over from the Render-PC to my Work-PC Daz3d/Studio4 folder and now i can use v4.21. BUT i think this is maybe messing with the postgr and the metadata that kept updating.

It's no biggy as ive said before, just annoying. 

 Wow, that was the story ! So still suggest you try these in your Work PC:

1) Shut Ds, open file browser, go to the path: %AppData%\DAZ 3D\Studio4\, there's a file named 'dazstudio.dau', delete it then open Ds to see if the message still popps up;
2) If the above doesn't work, try to install a fresh Public Build version... then testify such an issue happens or not;

If the issue is still pending, then Richard owes you a solution.

crosswind said:

plarff said:

is your Windows User a default 'Administrators  --

That will be a yes.

Is that the same case in you Render PC ? ! Also default 'Administrators' ? I ever helped a couple of my friends to fix some weird issues caming from such 'Administrators', though the issues were not related to cms but I just thought of a possibility...

Render pc also has full administrator rights and yes Render PC has no DAZ issues. I have an idea what might be happening here. I have posted a install to v4.21 issue and Richard helped or was trying to help me with where i couldn't for some reason Upgrade from v4.20 to v 4.21 using DIMS on my Work pc the one im having postgr issue's with.
I could Upgrade to v4.21 on my Render-PC so i copied the complete DAZ3d/Studio4 folder over from the Render-PC to my Work-PC Daz3d/Studio4 folder and now i can use v4.21. BUT i think this is maybe messing with the postgr and the metadata that kept updating.

It's no biggy as ive said before, just annoying. 

ps. link to my old post
https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/631806/daz-studio-update-location#latest

OK, so if I understand correctly, your Daz content was all on a separate drive and so not wiped as part of your re-install. However, are you sure that ALL your content was there? Also, have you definitely re-added all your Daz libraries using the correct paths?  I am not fully familiar with all those messages but it does sound like something is trying to load and is missing dependancies.

I don't know of any good scripts/parsers for the log file so you may have to do this by hand. However, even tho there are many such lines, you may only have to analyse a few to point out where the issue is. For example, perhaps you have missed off one of your libraries which contains a vital product or perhaps you had accidentally baked a product into a default figure that was stored outside your separate drive?  If you grab a few lines and try to figure out if the things that Daz is trying to look for a correctly installed or if they should even be being loaded at that point.

I suppose one thing to ask is - now that you have done the smart content re-import metadata does the total products shown under all products roughly match the amount of products you'd expect?  From what I understand, the re-import metadata function will pull all dsx files from any /runtime/support folders it can find and so if the library is mapped incorrecly it presumably would not load them and thus that may point at a mis-mapped libary.

Other than that, perhaps you can post (attach) your log file and also a screenshot of the Content Directory Manager with all sections expanded?

The alternative option could be to run with the beta which is a bit better at handling the formula errors - although that may just be papering over the issue.

plarff said:

crosswind said:

plarff said:

I'm having similar Postgre issue. Keeps telling me it's not running on startup YET it is...

So pls refer to what we suggested as above-mentioned, see if the issue could be fixed...

I did as you suggested. Didn't solve the issue unfortunately. Its running fine in DIMS. When i stop it and start it up in DIMS and then open DAZ and check there CMS is running, yet the message keeps popping up. 
I have even done the "Content Database Maintenance" and die the "Re-Import Metadata & Process Meta Queue" and still same issue.

As i have said it's at this stage just a warning popping up as everthing seems to be working. Also logging off  in DAZ and disabling those setting in F2/Startup as you suggested didnt help either CMS / Postgr and teh metadata issue i am having.
This sure is a strange / annoying issue but it's not hampering my work, just annoying. The Metadata auto updating has stopped so thank you for that. Now its just the postgr warning.

It's weird... so, even if that cms warning message popped up, Smart Content is still working ?

And pls open your log file, search 'postgre', see if there's any warning or error message, or attach the log file in here, we may help to check...

crosswind said:

plarff said:

I'm having similar Postgre issue. Keeps telling me it's not running on startup YET it is...

So pls refer to what we suggested as above-mentioned, see if the issue could be fixed...

I did as you suggested. Didn't solve the issue unfortunately. Its running fine in DIMS. When i stop it and start it up in DIMS and then open DAZ and check there CMS is running, yet the message keeps popping up. 
I have even done the "Content Database Maintenance" and die the "Re-Import Metadata & Process Meta Queue" and still same issue.

As i have said it's at this stage just a warning popping up as everthing seems to be working. Also logging off  in DAZ and disabling those setting in F2/Startup as you suggested didnt help either CMS / Postgr and teh metadata issue i am having.
This sure is a strange / annoying issue but it's not hampering my work, just annoying. The Metadata auto updating has stopped so thank you for that. Now its just the postgr warning.

Press F2 in Ds, uncheck these boxes if you don't wanna login ~ I never login since lots of  'updated metadata' are wrong and they will overwrite the existing metadata that you've ever modified or corrected (if there was any), that'll be the most annoying thing...

As for cms warning msg, pls check : https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/632441/i-keep-getting-an-error-message-when-starting-daz-studio#latest

Not sure if this will be helpfull

2023-05-06 13:35:58.841 [INFO] :: Updated metadata for 1 of 1715 items.
2023-05-06 13:35:59.729 [INFO] :: Updated metadata for 2 of 1715 items.
2023-05-06 13:36:00.381 [WARNING] :: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\cloud\dzcloudtasknotifier.cpp(178): boost::filesystem::create_directories: The filename, directory name, or volume label syntax is incorrect: "\\?\Z:data\cloud"
2023-05-06 13:36:00.381 [INFO] :: Updated metadata for 3 of 1715 items.
2023-05-06 13:36:00.585 [WARNING] :: A valid PostgreSQL CMS connection could not be established.  Several DAZ Studio features that require a valid PostgreSQL CMS connection, such as context aware content views and loading content installed using the Daz Connect service, will not be available.  Check your network, anti-virus, and firewall settings for conflicts.

Hi All

It seems when i open DAZ app, now since updating to v3.21 it keeps doing auto Metadata update and always 1715 items. Can I stop this as it seems to slow down some functionality within daz.

Gordig said:

JasonWNalley said:

I know there are various plug-ins/community content that gives some of these features, like FluidOS, Parsis, and Simtenero Particle Physics, but the ability to do these natively within DAZ is long overdue.  Also a more feature-rich animation panel would be excellent.

It's totally legitimate to wish that DS had these features, but honestly I would encourage you to look at other programs that do include these features. I basically only use DS these days to export content to C4D and Houdini. DS has its niche in the marketplace, and it is arguably the best in the business at what it's intended to do, but Daz hasn't made the features you're requesting a priority.

I disagree. I am used to using 3DSMax, Modo and other external apps and renderers, but I no longer have access to them due to cost. Would love to use C4D ($60 monthly) and Houdini (indie $269 yr), but same thing, cost, even with subscription based it is still costly, so for many, that just isn't an option. I have blender installed and try as I might, still can't get past the UI. So I would love for DS to have more features and even more import options (and less export options). I would love to do everything inside just DS. Granted DS is free, and it does sooooo much for the price, so I shouldn't expect more, but it would be nice

That's normal, esp. you ever logged in Ds ~ The grey thumbnail means it's not installed.. the icon in the upper right corner means it has could metadata (Daz Connect). If you don't wanna see them anymore, right click on the thumbnail - Show Product in Content Library, then right click on the item again - Delete..

Whatever you save from the Daz Studio application will be a ".duf" file, whether it's a Pose Preset , a Material Preset, or a full scene.
Let's say you import a simple cube named "cube.obj", then save it as a Scene Subset named "cube", will create a "cube.duf" file.
Some exceptions are: ".dsa" files (scripts), ".dsf" files (some data files), and of course rendered images (".jpg", ".png", ".tif", etc.

Hello. I would like to know how I can create my own DUF files.

Specifically I would like to import OBJ models and convert them to DUF.

Greetings

Re-importing metadata with DIM, a couple hundred at a time. All Products get fully populated, unlike that first attempt, but no UserData import yet. That will be done at the end, after I back up the cms folder before trying it. Also taking the opportunity to clear problems with metadata that I had not noticed before. The DIM log shows every little discrepancy between what is installed and what the metadata thinks it should be.

MelissaGT said:

Wonderland said:

I'm having issues with older brushes not installing into Photoshop through DIM because they were created pre-CC and have to be manually installed because for some reason DIM refuses to install them into newer versions of PS. And every time Photoshop updates to a new version, you have to reinstall them again (or copy brushes over manually) which is a big pain. 

I keep all my Photoshop brushes in one central location on a separate drive where I can just load them into Photoshop from the "import brushes" menu directly in Photoshop. Nice n' easy.  

I do the same and still use brushes I bought/made in CS3 in Photoshop 2023. It never occured to me to try and use the DIM for this.