I am not happy   :(((((  ..

Since installing Daz Central.. I am unable to login to Daz install , Daz Studio nor Daz Central itself - Individually .. ( Yes i know 1 can't use Daz Central and others at same time ) ... I can only login to Daz3d Website.. Yes i have reported this problem via Support Ticket..

This is ridiculious !!!! .. they put out a new program ( Daz Central )  to help people use daz studio and related products better .. and yet i can't login to check for updates and download any updates or new purchases !!!! >:(  >:( >:( >:( >:(

DIM can download thumbnails for the products.

Hmm, and see them inside DIM? If that's so, then great because I'm thinking I'll stick to DIM. I'm pretty sure I won't be able to use the install files anyway and I just got the "not finding Daz installed issue" too, despite installing it from Daz Central just a moment ago...

I'm not a new user but I just built a new PC so I'm trying to give Daz Central a go, it might be something simple but I do like the idea of being able to see a picture of what I'm installing. The one thing I'd like to know is if it can install products using the install files I got using DIM on my old PC, instead of having to download them all again. If not, then yeah, I'll stick to DIM, I definitely don't want to download almost 4000 files again.

All that the release notes say is

1. Plug-in Capabilities
   DazCentral comes with a framework for you to manage and update your Daz Plug-ins so you can do more with your content.

not that it will have plug-ins of its own (which I had misread). There isn't going to be an SDK for it.

As for the Das Central issue. Since it draws from DIM, what I did was just reset everything to default in DIM, restarted DIM, and then put all of my paths back in once it was happy and found things. After that I just restarted the whole computer again and then Daz Central and violins!

It found everything with no issues. Even updated all my products that needed it.

Okay so it seems to be working now on the desktop. Only bummer now is the fact that it will not see all my Rendo DAZ products or Poser products. That would make it worthwhile and then we can merge/fazeout DIM...

Thanks, again, Richard.

I've attached a screen-shot of the settings in the Content Directory Manager and they are all correct.

I've never touched the path in "CMS Cluster Directory" for all the years I've used DAZ Studio.

The path "D:/My Library" contains the .duf files that are not being registered in the CMS - all files with a date after 5/2.  That was the last time I backed up the User Data.  Since that time, until yesterday when DAZ Central performed a reset, I was quite busy creating dozens of custom materials, poses and subsets.  None of them are visible to CMS.

The Content Library pane>Daz Studuio Formats will show actual files in yoru mapped content directories. However, I suspect the issue was that you were using a non-default location for the ContentCluster folder and the Daz Central install reset it - in which case reverting to the non-default value in the Content Directory Manager (from the Content tab of Edit>Preferences, Daz Studio>preferences on a Mac) should put everything back.

Although Daz Central supports plug-ins that doesn't necssarily mean that there will be a public SDK - that would depend on the purpose of the plug-in support.

Deleted Daz Central and reimported meta data got everything back and is working fine

OK GUYS I JUST GOT MY STUFF BACK!

 

Good find.  I had to search a bit further for my CMS directory.  I had several lying around that were all wrong and linking to them did nothing.  I'm not sure if these were created by the daz central install or what, but in the end I found a CMS directory in my appData/roaming directory, of all places, that worked when i used it in the CMS settings as you described.
Man, what a dumpster fire.  I uninstalled Daz Central as soon as I could, and I wonder how much damage it did to my various paths and settings.  I'm afraid of what will happen the next time I try a fresh install or a contend db migration.

Thanks for pointing me to the appData directory. DazCentral wiped out that link along with most of my Daz interface. Now all I have to do is figure out why I can't login.

Hey.  

Please read this with an inner voice of mild concern.  Do not use inner sarcasm voice, or any derogatory tone, because this isn't a rant.  It's simply feedback, my impression, and a suggestion that would actually make this a favorable thing.     Onwards...

I was less than impressed with Daz Central.  The email that pointed me to it sounded promising.  I downloaded and installed it.  Okay.  No, not so okay.

One of the features is to have the tutorial videos available on the Dashboard in an easy to see location.  So I picked the first one, and was highly disappointed.  Here's the video it eventually landed me at on YouTube:  

For those who don't wish to click it, it's a 2016 tutorial showing an extremely outdated UI that looks nothing like today's UI.  In the comments that are years old, people were asking for an up to date tutorial please, and of course, now it's 2020 and at the time of this post, hasn't been updated in the least.  That killed all interest I've had in wanting to watch any other tutorials.  

Next disappointment was showing me my current product purchases, and I can open them in Daz Studio 4.12 with one click.  Tried it, it works.  However, I could do the same thing in two clicks.  I can click to open Daz, then click the 'new' tagged product within Daz itself, on the products pane that is already open when Daz loads.  So they saved me one click, and perhaps a few inches on the mouse wheel to scroll through products to find the 'new' tag, if I was tag hunting.  I know what I bought by name, actually, and I find it easily regardless.  Still just two clicks.  Is the cost of an entire program development really worth only one click?  

Now for a suggestion... why not actually put in a feature that isn't available in Daz Studio itself?  Like the ability to go to your saved files and delete a saved file and everything related to it in one click?  As of right now, you can't delete it.  You see, Daz is the only program I know where a save file isn't easy to get rid of.  I can load up a 20 year old program, click delete saved file/saved game/saved document/saved whatever, and it's gone, confirmation dialog or not.  I can load up a relatively new program and do the same thing.  Saved file/saved game/saved document/saved database/saved image/saved whatever, and it's gone.  No lingering thumbnails with error reporting hanging out anywhere.  

Except for Daz Studio.  

I looked it up once, a while back.  I have to delete the DUF, go into library whatever, find the related files, delete them, find another spot... yadda yadda yakity smackety and you know the rest, to delete just one old scene that I no longer use.  Because of this, I am highly reluctant to save any scene, because once it's there, I guess it's there forever, as I really don't have the time to become a coder to hunt down all the bits and pieces that Daz Studio will report as a prolem that's left over through a thumbnail connection that will never vanish otherwise.  

I just want to right click the saved file in the saved files area, and choose a delete option that doesn't exist as of today, and that be that and it's gone, thumbnail, DUF and any other bits of code connected to it gone as well.  Or have that doable on Daz Central.  If so, I'll reinstall the nearly useless thing and be happy for that feature all by itself. 

Thank you for your valuable time.  

Please note:  The email that was sent to me did not include a single word that this program was in beta.  I put the post above in the Product Suggestions forum, thinking it was a finished item development wise.  You may or may not understand how I got slightly jaded over the function issues I noted above.  If they had properly noted the status of the program, I may have been a touch less 'put off' from it.   

On the DIM side, it seems that DazCentral sets the "Manifest Archive" location to an incorrect location.

Isn't this a showstopping bug and grounds for immediately pulling the program until the code's gone over with a fine-toothed pneumatic drill? I already didn't want to use Central; after all these glitch reports in recent days, there's no way I'd bother to install it.

Oh, OK.  BUT will DAZ Central give me more options than DIM or are they about the same?  I read that both can't be used at the same time so a little hesitant to install the beta right now.  

DazCentral will always have a more focused and limited feature set than DIM.

 

They can both be used at the same time if your paths in DIM are simple (DazCentral only works with simple paths). If you change your paths in DazCentral it will overwrite all of the paths in DIM and will not likely set them to things that will keep your existing setup and configuration going.

I thought they could both be used on the same machine, but not at the same time (if you mean running at the same time, which is how I read it, rather than installed at the same time).

I'm still amazed that DAZ never got DIM and Smart Content working properly before heading off with DAZ Central.

Leaving aside what is meant by properly, Daz Central is, as I understand it, built on the same core as Install Manager so generally fixes for one will benefit both.

OK, thanks for the info.  Deleting the DAZ Central exe then!  Don't need the hassle! 

Oh, OK.  BUT will DAZ Central give me more options than DIM or are they about the same?  I read that both can't be used at the same time so a little hesitant to install the beta right now.  

DazCentral will always have a more focused and limited feature set than DIM.

 

They can both be used at the same time if your paths in DIM are simple (DazCentral only works with simple paths). If you change your paths in DazCentral it will overwrite all of the paths in DIM and will not likely set them to things that will keep your existing setup and configuration going.

...so if you have a highly customised categorised library/runtime best to stay with the DIM then.

Question.  Will DAZ Central eventually replace DIM?  I see that in beta but I want to make sure what's going to happen.  If not why have three ways to install content, actually 4 if you manually download and install!  Seems a bit overkill to me!  

We've been told DIM will continue, DazCentral is for newer users who may be confused by all the options in DIM

I just want to confirm that this is the plan.

Thanks!  That is very good to hear.

Oh, OK.  BUT will DAZ Central give me more options than DIM or are they about the same?  I read that both can't be used at the same time so a little hesitant to install the beta right now.  

DazCentral will always have a more focused and limited feature set than DIM.

They can both be used at the same time if your paths in DIM are simple (DazCentral only works with simple paths). If you change your paths in DazCentral it will overwrite all of the paths in DIM and will not likely set them to things that will keep your existing setup and configuration going.

OK GUYS I JUST GOT MY STUFF BACK!

 

Good find.  I had to search a bit further for my CMS directory.  I had several lying around that were all wrong and linking to them did nothing.  I'm not sure if these were created by the daz central install or what, but in the end I found a CMS directory in my appData/roaming directory, of all places, that worked when i used it in the CMS settings as you described.
Man, what a dumpster fire.  I uninstalled Daz Central as soon as I could, and I wonder how much damage it did to my various paths and settings.  I'm afraid of what will happen the next time I try a fresh install or a contend db migration.

Oh, OK.  BUT will DAZ Central give me more options than DIM or are they about the same?  I read that both can't be used at the same time so a little hesitant to install the beta right now.