Default resources is things like the sahders, without it you won't be able to do much. It has been updated to add the new PBR Skin shader for the Genesis 8.1 updates (used by Victoria 8.1, though it will no doubt be used by other things and is available once installed for experimentation).

Looking at Hurt and Injured and Pain and Hurt, I can't help but feel like they've already begun the process of taking all the 8.0 products and making them again as an 8.1 product. As a person who held on to my DVD player long after everybody else had upgraded to Blu-ray, I refuse to buy everything again just because they added a 0.1

That's not true. I already got Victoria 8.1 and already have this expression set on my wishlist. But they had better not make an 8.2 version.

Richard Haseltine said:

Daikatana said:

takezo_3001 said:

Daikatana said:

Well, this is interesting.  While the product store page does state that the Vellus hair is included with the victoria 8.1 figure, that is apparently NOT the case.  While I did put in a sales support ticket, those have been taking so long to answer recently that it just adds to my frustration.  I had held off on purchasing the V8.1 figure in large part because of the somewhat misleading advertising-which I am choosing to believe was unintentional but with the statements on the forum that DAZ3D was including it with V8.1, I decided to go ahead with the purchase.  Now, I find that even though the product store page states it is included, it is still apparently NOT included.  I have uninstalled -and made sure to delete the download package- via DIM and still no vellus hair. Hopefully someone here can advise me?

I guess that it was delayed due to Daz needing to package the item, but that's my guess, Daz needs to confirm that, anyway it's coming soon as it's located on the V8.1 product page.

 

Its alreadly listed on the product page.  I checked that.  Its definitely NOT in my library though. 

I've sent in a query on this.

Thank you SOOO much!  You are HUGELY appreciated!

Daikatana said:

takezo_3001 said:

Daikatana said:

Well, this is interesting.  While the product store page does state that the Vellus hair is included with the victoria 8.1 figure, that is apparently NOT the case.  While I did put in a sales support ticket, those have been taking so long to answer recently that it just adds to my frustration.  I had held off on purchasing the V8.1 figure in large part because of the somewhat misleading advertising-which I am choosing to believe was unintentional but with the statements on the forum that DAZ3D was including it with V8.1, I decided to go ahead with the purchase.  Now, I find that even though the product store page states it is included, it is still apparently NOT included.  I have uninstalled -and made sure to delete the download package- via DIM and still no vellus hair. Hopefully someone here can advise me?

I guess that it was delayed due to Daz needing to package the item, but that's my guess, Daz needs to confirm that, anyway it's coming soon as it's located on the V8.1 product page.

 

Its alreadly listed on the product page.  I checked that.  Its definitely NOT in my library though. 

I've sent in a query on this.

Daikatana said:

Well, this is interesting.  While the product store page does state that the Vellus hair is included with the victoria 8.1 figure, that is apparently NOT the case.  While I did put in a sales support ticket, those have been taking so long to answer recently that it just adds to my frustration.  I had held off on purchasing the V8.1 figure in large part because of the somewhat misleading advertising-which I am choosing to believe was unintentional but with the statements on the forum that DAZ3D was including it with V8.1, I decided to go ahead with the purchase.  Now, I find that even though the product store page states it is included, it is still apparently NOT included.  I have uninstalled -and made sure to delete the download package- via DIM and still no vellus hair. Hopefully someone here can advise me?

takezo_3001 said:

Daikatana said:

Well, this is interesting.  While the product store page does state that the Vellus hair is included with the victoria 8.1 figure, that is apparently NOT the case.  While I did put in a sales support ticket, those have been taking so long to answer recently that it just adds to my frustration.  I had held off on purchasing the V8.1 figure in large part because of the somewhat misleading advertising-which I am choosing to believe was unintentional but with the statements on the forum that DAZ3D was including it with V8.1, I decided to go ahead with the purchase.  Now, I find that even though the product store page states it is included, it is still apparently NOT included.  I have uninstalled -and made sure to delete the download package- via DIM and still no vellus hair. Hopefully someone here can advise me?

I guess that it was delayed due to Daz needing to package the item, but that's my guess, Daz needs to confirm that, anyway it's coming soon as it's located on the V8.1 product page.

Its alreadly listed on the product page.  I checked that.  Its definitely NOT in my library though. 

Daikatana said:

Well, this is interesting.  While the product store page does state that the Vellus hair is included with the victoria 8.1 figure, that is apparently NOT the case.  While I did put in a sales support ticket, those have been taking so long to answer recently that it just adds to my frustration.  I had held off on purchasing the V8.1 figure in large part because of the somewhat misleading advertising-which I am choosing to believe was unintentional but with the statements on the forum that DAZ3D was including it with V8.1, I decided to go ahead with the purchase.  Now, I find that even though the product store page states it is included, it is still apparently NOT included.  I have uninstalled -and made sure to delete the download package- via DIM and still no vellus hair. Hopefully someone here can advise me?

I guess that it was delayed due to Daz needing to package the item, but that's my guess, Daz needs to confirm that, anyway it's coming soon as it's located on the V8.1 product page.

Well, this is interesting.  While the product store page does state that the Vellus hair is included with the victoria 8.1 figure, that is apparently NOT the case.  While I did put in a sales support ticket, those have been taking so long to answer recently that it just adds to my frustration.  I had held off on purchasing the V8.1 figure in large part because of the somewhat misleading advertising-which I am choosing to believe was unintentional but with the statements on the forum that DAZ3D was including it with V8.1, I decided to go ahead with the purchase.  Now, I find that even though the product store page states it is included, it is still apparently NOT included.  I have uninstalled -and made sure to delete the download package- via DIM and still no vellus hair. Hopefully someone here can advise me?

This probably has been talked about already. If it has could someone lead me to the right thread please. I been trying to load any of my genesis 8 models and everytime i do, it takes extremely long and the program crashes. I can use any other model type like Victoria 7 and before but can't with G8 for some reason.

plasma_ring said:

Ryselle-Ryssa said:

The seemingly easier expression features is of course tempting... On the other hand: I have so many Genesis 8.0 characters aquired, that it is just frustrating.

So, I will wait until one noble soul creates a converter

It works no differently than it would transferring your characters from a Victoria 8 base to a Babina 8 base. To do this I loaded Genesis 8.1 Female and added the materials, shaping preset, and anatomy addons from the character's folder just like with G8F. 

wow! i like it!!!!

Carola O said:

[quote] Richard Haseltine said:

Not sure if anyone else has announced this yet, but since it's been a hot topic: we have been told that the Velus etc. hair will be added to the Victoria 8.1 Base for new and existing purchasers sometime today. It will also be included with future 8.1 base characters. [/endquote]

I am, wondering what happened to this, it was said that the vellus hair would be added to Victoria 8.1 yesterday. It's still not there now that I checked.

Hopefully, it will be released today... I have been refreshing my DIM ever since, and the only thing we got yesterday was an update on G8.1's expressions...

Jabba said:

Vellus Hair Update...
...On the Victoria 8.1 product page in my order history, Vellus Hair has been added to the bottom with "This product is a bundle that contains the following product...  Genesis 8.1 Female Vellus Hair"

So it's definitely coming...  SOON ! ! !

Ahh, now I can guess the reason for the delay from yesterday, they needed to repackage it as a separate item, and maybe they just simply did not have enough time to do it!

Vellus Hair Update...
...On the Victoria 8.1 product page in my order history, Vellus Hair has been added to the bottom with "This product is a bundle that contains the following product...  Genesis 8.1 Female Vellus Hair"

So it's definitely coming...  SOON ! ! !

Well, started playing in 4.15 and G8.1F....initial assessment, don't rush.  The base figure has just the Iray base map, some mouth and eye improvements with the tear addition. Lots of talk (28 pages as of today) in the Commons. The good thing was all the characters and morphs all showed up, and I was able to load G8F morphs with the morph loader pro. So below is a quick character build (crossgender morph, 75% Alistair, 15% Cartoony for Leemoon, and my HD Musculature morphs tweaking, layered with AME body and ASE) including my custom bicep morph on the G8F platform. First thing I noticed that the figure loads in SubD2 rather than 1. All the expressions show up, but a lot of them don't work. If you have D.Masters AFE, then you probably have most of the capability of the G8.1F facial enhancement rigging. Don't know if it's something in the figure or 4.15, but overall things seemed to move and react slower than before, will have to see once I go back to G8M work. There does seem to be a difference in the UV torso map rigging. Went to get a Filament render and add the beautiful skin shell, the torso faded out, so that product is useless on 8.1 for now. I could load any skin shader from the library, so for good looking Filament/PBR support looks like new product or updates required, thus Victoria 8.1. Also was led to believe from the promo descriptions that Vellus hair was defaulted, nope, guess you need V 8.1 for that feature also. Will continue to play, but again, my opinion, don't rush. TD

Just noticed on the Filament renders I should have added the hair cap, I was so focused on trying to fix the torso or find some work around! TD

I don't have DS up right now so I am writing off the top of my head, but in Genesis 8 Essentials (which I found labeled Genesis 8 Male PowerPose under Female Figures in Smart Content) there is the facial rig thingie there. Also, in Power Pose, I found that you have to manually click at the bar at the top, which is default set at 'Body' and select 'Head' for it to come up. I only used the rig thingie once yesterday afternoon since it takes my computers 17 to 25 minutes to load a G8.1F or Victoria 8.1 character.

Oso3D said:

I'm just... adoring how much better the eyes look.

And being able to use all the aging/youthing/etc shapes; those are usually my biggest obstacle to wanting to move generations.

(victoria 8.1 skin with a few minor tweaks)

eyes were always one of the worst things about Daz figures.  the new tear geometry and other updates works wonders! 

[quote] Richard Haseltine said:

Not sure if anyone else has announced this yet, but since it's been a hot topic: we have been told that the Velus etc. hair will be added to the Victoria 8.1 Base for new and existing purchasers sometime today. It will also be included with future 8.1 base characters. [/endquote]

I am, wondering what happened to this, it was said that the vellus hair would be added to Victoria 8.1 yesterday. It's still not there now that I checked.

An experiment taking Victoria 8.1 (with the help of many collected morphs over time) to come to a male version end result with slight tweaking of the shader. This has been quite fun to test out the new visuals.

 

DAZ_Ty said:

Nosiferret said:

You know. *drags out a small soap box*  Each figure they roll out there is a strong emphasis on some kind of realism. Way back in V3 days, the eyes were always weird and I don't think were addressed until V4. Then there was a head pounding time trying to get the skin to look as real as possible, to make that 2d skin appear 3d-real. Merchants worked hard with each new model. Took a while for the eyes to catch up but we're about there, some merchants got it, others need help. So with the release of 8.1, tweeking the need to make Vic smile look more like a smile as one reason for rolling out 8.1. So why after all these years, hasn't there been an improvement on tats? Today it seems there is a huge need for female figures to be covered in tattoos, then slap a $25 price tag on the model and put it in the market . If you're doing to do that, can you please take the time to make the tattoo appear real instead of it looking like some childs temp tats they got out of a cracker jack box. All the tats I see on these models are super low 2d, there is no life or vibrance in them. We take the time to make the skin appear real and then destroy that effort with an ultra flat tattoo over 3/4 of the body. Please research how real tattoos look on real skin, the shading, how dimensional they look, a 3d image on a 3d figure. 

Hey Nosiferret,

Thanks for your feedback! Digital realism is the standard we are striving to hit daily! Tattoos, in particular, are actually really near and dear to my heart – I have two full tattoo sleeves. For Victoria's 8.1 tattoos we collaborated with an incredibly talented Canadian tattoo artist named Birdie. She created these custom tattoos for Victoria specifically, and worked with us to determine placement, coloring, and ultimately how to apply it to the skin shader to get just the right amount of skin detail!  The feedback on Victoria 8.1, and the tattoos has been extremely positive, and we hope you enjoy creating with her!

If you want to check out Birdie’s work, you can see it here: https://www.instagram.com/birdietattoos/

I haven't had a chance to play around with V8.1, but the promos with the tattoos are horrible... They look like body paint or decals, not tattoos. "Certainly not," was my first impression. I'm not downing Birdie's work, just the promos.

On another note, I've felt my renders have gotten darn close to the almost real mark, and was getting ready to check into adding microskin textures. I do have to give thanks for that addition, and for the change with the eyes/lashes. The previous lashes tend to get lost in renders, especially with males.

watchdog79 said:

videoninja719 said:

Hi i would like to know what blonde bob hair is victoria 8.1 is wearing in main/big promo pic. thanks

Victoria 8.1 | 3D Models and 3D Software by Daz 3D

I think it is this with some dials applied: https://www.daz3d.com/matilda-hair-for-genesis-8-females ;

It is a great product. It is also included in this bundle, making it a very likely culprit: https://www.daz3d.com/victoria-8-1-university-bundle

ahh...thank you so much @watchdog79

wow thanks for the link on matilda hair. and wow i think you are right its probably the culprit in the bundle. ah well still thinking to get this whole new 8.1 or not....maybe might just grab the hair. looks like really a trendy hair for women these days from youtube hair channels. anyway thanks again bro!

dragoneyes002 said:

rhye_7b205b2b74 said:

data/daz 3d/built-in content/daz iray pbrskin/pbrskin.dsf
data/daz 3d/genesis 8/female 8_1/genesis8_1female.dsf
data/daz 3d/genesis 8/female 8_1/morphs/daz 3d/mouth realism/phmmouthrealism8_1_hd_div4.dsf
data/daz 3d/genesis 8/female 8_1/uv sets/daz 3d/base/base 8.1 female.dsf
runtime/textures/daz/characters/genesis8_1/femalebase/g8_1eyeirisdepthnormal_1007.tif
runtime/textures/daz/characters/genesis8_1/femalebase/g8_1mouth_nm_1006.tif

these files are missing from the zip too so it will not load properly!

these files are in fact MISSING what solved it was using DAZ central and selecting to use Victoria 8.1 in the scene central will show the two missing items and ask if you want to download them

these files are in fact MISSING what solved it was using DAZ central and selecting to use Victoria 8.1 in the scene central will show the two missing items and ask if you want to download them. do so.

manual download and DIM do not include the files with the character (kind of a LARGE oversite for a flagship product launch)

They are not missing, since they are not part of Victoria 8.1.

Some of those files belong to "Genesis 8 Female Starter Essentials" and some are part of "Default Resources for DAZ Studio 4.51", you need to update those to have the "missing" files.