Is DAZ Central using the same type of Manifest files for installed content as DIM? If, are they shared if you use both (if that's possible)?

Oh, OK.  BUT will DAZ Central give me more options than DIM or are they about the same?  I read that both can't be used at the same time so a little hesitant to install the beta right now.  

DazCentral will always have a more focused and limited feature set than DIM.

 

They can both be used at the same time if your paths in DIM are simple (DazCentral only works with simple paths). If you change your paths in DazCentral it will overwrite all of the paths in DIM and will not likely set them to things that will keep your existing setup and configuration going.

Can you speak to the decision to make the one-click 'Download & Install' functionality for only items in an order only for Daz Central users? Both the my Orders page and the page that appears after making a purchase both have 'Download & Install' buttons that used to work with DIM (to install all products at once) but are now only for Daz Central.

I can't give the official answer, but I would think that having a choice of things to click (DIM and Daz Central) would immedaitely introduce a new layer of complexity and confusion for new users.

Je voudrais installer daz studio sur un autre disque dur car il a plus de capacité sauf que Daz Central install systematiquement le logciel sur le C: (disque systeme) .

Comment faire pour l'installer directement sur le D: ?

 

Merci pour vos réponses.

Bonsoir cévenol,

Sur Daz Central, en haut à droite, il y a une icône qui ressemble à une roue crantée : c'est là qu'il faut spécifier où on veut installer le programme lui-même et les librairies. C'est un peu la même chose avec DIM : la roue crantée donne accès via "basic settings" aux emplacements.

En cas de migration de l'ensemble de la librairie, il faut spécifier dans Dz Studio : Edit/préférences/ content/directory manager et pointer sur le ou les dossiers à afficher.

En passant à la version 4.12 j'ai aussi changé de PC et j'ai 2 GTX 2080, à la place d'une seule 1060, c'est rapide au rendu. Sinon, en bidouillant dans les paramètres de calcul, on peut réduire considérablement les temps de calculs, sous réserve que la carte graphique soit relativement récente et le pilote à jour, sinon, c'est une limace.

Je pense que les utilisateurs de Daz Studio sont une clientèle excellente pour Nvidia.

Perso, j'ai surtout des problèmes avec D Force, sans aucun doute parce que je n'ai pas trouvé de tuto correct. Ca se termine en explosion du vêtement et un plantage du programme la plupart du temps.

Il faut dire que c'est pour moi juste un "jouet pour adultes" particulièrement chronophage et onéreux.

Mes autres passe-temps, quoique coûteux, ont une pérennité qui est sans commune mesure, que ce soit le vélo ou la hifi tendance lourde....

Ils ne sont pas vraiment doués ni intéressées par les modes d'emploi chez Daz !!

Courage !

I never used the direct links after a purchase, but i do find it odd that there used to be two links/options and now both point to the new DAZ Central.

So i also doubt DAZ claims for this to be an alternative for new users. My guess is that slowly will keep obscuring DIM to the point that one day it will be gone and the excuse will be "almost nobody used it any more".

Oh, OK.  BUT will DAZ Central give me more options than DIM or are they about the same?  I read that both can't be used at the same time so a little hesitant to install the beta right now.  

DazCentral will always have a more focused and limited feature set than DIM.

 

They can both be used at the same time if your paths in DIM are simple (DazCentral only works with simple paths). If you change your paths in DazCentral it will overwrite all of the paths in DIM and will not likely set them to things that will keep your existing setup and configuration going.

Can you speak to the decision to make the one-click 'Download & Install' functionality for only items in an order only for Daz Central users? Both the my Orders page and the page that appears after making a purchase both have 'Download & Install' buttons that used to work with DIM (to install all products at once) but are now only for Daz Central.

I noticed this morning when I bought a few things that the 'Download & Install' button right after purchasing is Daz Central only, so the only option that I have now is to just refresh in DIM and check the items I want to install. Not very user friendly.

I wish I had looked at the forums before I installed Central. I use DIM to install my content into different folders. Central limits the option to one install path. It also messed up my configuration for DIM. It took some trial and error to restore the settings.

So Can I ask why is it that we need to go into Daz Studio and re-install/update items when we have this new fanged Daz Manager / Daz Central interface that seems to be very redundant and a waste of time?

Why do we not just download and install directly from Daz Studio itself? I mean this option is there.

Because some of us really, really don't like what is already there.

... And it must be said, don't like Daz Central either so far.

DIM is great, it does what it says on the tin. Downloading and Installing is kept seperate from Studio's purpose - scene creation and rendering.

 

I am using Firefox and in my settings it is set for DiM as default no changes made, but when I click on the download and install link after a purchase it sends me to the Daz Central page, instead of activating DiM.. So it looks like the option to auto start DiM has been removed completely..

The same thing happens with Safari.

Instead of activating the Daz Installer app, the Download All button on the Orders page sends you back to the Daz Installer download page rather than activating the app on your local computer. The button asumes you don't have the new software yet, even if you do and thus sends you back to the Installer download page instead of activating the Installer.

Daz Central is a replacement for Daz Install Manager.

No, it isn't.  It's a simplified installer for new users.  DIM is not being replaced.

I don't think that you can even download DIM from the web site anymore

Yes, you can.  If you had it before it's in your Product library:  https://www.daz3d.com/downloader/customer/files#prod_14811

If you never had it it's here:  https://www.daz3d.com/install-manager-info

. This was my preferred method since you could check all products to install instead of having to install them one at a time as in Daz Studio and Daz Central (unless I'm missing something). DIM also allowed you to hide items that you don't want to download such as the Poser / Carrara files that I no longer use. I'm not sure if Daz Studio downloads/installs just the Daz Studio version of products that are available for both Daz Studio and Poser.

Connect (Daz Studio Smart Content pane) only installs the DS version if there are both DS and Poser versions.  I don't know if DazCentral does the same -- since it's supposed to make things simpler for new users, I would think it just does the DS version.

One nice thing about Daz Central is that it has links to resources available on the web sites for new users.

Daz Central is a replacement for Daz Install Manager. I don't think that you can even download DIM from the web site anymore. This was my preferred method since you could check all products to install instead of having to install them one at a time as in Daz Studio and Daz Central (unless I'm missing something). DIM also allowed you to hide items that you don't want to download such as the Poser / Carrara files that I no longer use. I'm not sure if Daz Studio downloads/installs just the Daz Studio version of products that are available for both Daz Studio and Poser.

One nice thing about Daz Central is that it has links to resources available on the web sites for new users.

So Can I ask why is it that we need to go into Daz Studio and re-install/update items when we have this new fanged Daz Manager / Daz Central interface that seems to be very redundant and a waste of time?

Why do we not just download and install directly from Daz Studio itself? I mean this option is there.

I am also having problems with the new Daz Central and the new DIM installers.

I did download and install, and...

I know the newly downloaded installer is working correctly because I can click on each individual item Button on the orders page and download it, but when you click on the Download All Button, it takes you to the download page instead of opening the installer. When you purchase 50 assets, it is NOT fun to download each one individually.

It's a circular Web-link. Is this going to be fixed?

Please open a support ticket to report this as a possible bug https://www.daz3d.com/help/help-contact-us

I am also having problems with the new Daz Central and the new DIM installers.

I did download and install, and...

I know the newly downloaded installer is working correctly because I can click on each individual item Button on the orders page and download it, but when you click on the Download All Button, it takes you to the download page instead of opening the installer. When you purchase 50 assets, it is NOT fun to download each one individually.

It's a circular Web-link. Is this going to be fixed?

I've installed my content primarily through DIM, but have been using DAZ Central for the last few.

I went in kind of a weird direction with my flash sale picks. I picked up all three of the Plushies 2.0, which I was generally in no real hurry to get, because I had an idea for a render using them. Of the three, Pounce is the only one that I would consider correctly rigged. Ping and Scamp's arms get distorted if you move them more than a little bit, and you can't really move them up or down very well, whereas Pounce has a wider range of motion that, while still limited by the stubbiness of his arms, more closely approximates a human's and looks good across the range of motion. I also got the Forest Camp, and this was another big let down. It's one of those sets where the basic components are bones of a central prop rather than being independent props, which means that you can't, for example, move the tree stump relative to the campfire. It's frustrating when PAs do this, but it at least makes some sense when you're talking about a house or something like that; I can't see a single reason to have made this particular set like that. Even more annoyingly, the meat on the spit is its own surface, so you can hide that easily enough, but if you hide the spit itself, part of the tree stump also disappears, because they're the same surface. At this point, it's basically just a good fire and some useful props, but I can't really see myself using it as a set. #5 was Mr. Mushroom, and it would have to work very hard to disappoint me, because I don't expect that much from it in the first place.

le programme principale vas sur le C  du systeme,  au pire c'est des cas c'est 1 Gb et des poussières 

mais tu peut installer les libraries sur tout autres emplacement , c'est ceux qui prenent de la place indéfini 
 

Le programme n'est pas forcément sur le disque C (pas chez moi toujours). Avec DIM on peut préciser un autre disque. Je ne sais pas avec Daz Central. Au pire une install manuelle. C'est vrai que ce n'est pas DS4 qui prend le plus de place ! Ne pas oublier de pointer sur le (ou les) bon(s) chemin(s) dans le library manager de DS4.

Pour ce qui est des temps de rendu : joker ! comme je ne fais pas mes rendus dans DS

I don't mind that DAZ Central is only available for the PC. I intend to buy a PC for my DAZ Studio work. I'll give my iMac a vacation.

Also like to point out this apparent mistake... is it DAZ Central or DAZ Install Manager they are referring to??? The button takes you to the DAZ Central install page, so that's confusing for new users I would imagine.

 

One request!

Instead of completely removing the option to download via DIM from completed sales pages, can we have that as an alternative option?

Something along the lines of some "Or download via DIM" text under the button would be fine.

 

Right now we have to manually open DIM to download via it, which is slightly irksome!

As Central is intended for new users it makes sense to retain the usability for "advanced" users too.. 

 

Yes I would like that as well, to have that option rather than getting shoehorned into Daz Central. .As right now although not a overly real hassle, still annoying having to manually start DiM to download new purchases..

OK, but - if it works like DIM - should yu wish to go back to using Daz Central you may need to go into Chrome's preferences/settings and tell it which application to use to open a whatever file - I'm not sure what Daz Central uses, assumkng it's different from, DIM, and looking at an order page isn't enlightening.

I am using Firefox and in my settings it is set for DiM as default no changes made, but when I click on the download and install link after a purchase it sends me to the Daz Central page, instead of activating DiM.. So it looks like the option to auto start DiM has been removed completely..

The DIM link is still in the Product Library. I was assuming that there would be two different kinds of link, each with their own application, rather than a change to the application launched by the one extension - which is necessary for both types to be supported.

As for it not recognising that Daz central is presedt, are you running any script-blockers on the Daz site? I'm still not at all sure how the process is handled, but if there is a scripted portion that isn't running (correctly or at all) that migth stop it from realising Daz Central was already present.

The thing is prior to DazCentral whenever clicking on the download and install link after product purchase, it would auto start and auto log into DiM.. Doing the same thing now just sends you to the Daz Central page, where it wants you to download and install it.. I tried Daz Central but it screwed up all my settings, and had no option for custom folder install of content..

Same problem here. Clicking on the download and install link after a purchase now just sends me to the DAZ Central landing page. Even after installing DAZ Central it just goes to the landing page after each purchase, and offers to install DAZ Central even though it is already installed. So there is no way to install a product after a purchase anymore, unless you go directly to the product library, or run DIM manually.

I have always used the default directories for both DAZ Studio and DIM, and I did the default install of DAZ Central. There is nothing special with my setup.

 

If that is the case then not sure what the point of having that after purchase page now, more so if the download and install button doesn't do anything even with Daz Central installed..

One request!

Instead of completely removing the option to download via DIM from completed sales pages, can we have that as an alternative option?

Something along the lines of some "Or download via DIM" text under the button would be fine.

 

Right now we have to manually open DIM to download via it, which is slightly irksome!

As Central is intended for new users it makes sense to retain the usability for "advanced" users too.. 

 

Yes I would like that as well, to have that option rather than getting shoehorned into Daz Central. .As right now although not a overly real hassle, still annoying having to manually start DiM to download new purchases..

OK, but - if it works like DIM - should yu wish to go back to using Daz Central you may need to go into Chrome's preferences/settings and tell it which application to use to open a whatever file - I'm not sure what Daz Central uses, assumkng it's different from, DIM, and looking at an order page isn't enlightening.

I am using Firefox and in my settings it is set for DiM as default no changes made, but when I click on the download and install link after a purchase it sends me to the Daz Central page, instead of activating DiM.. So it looks like the option to auto start DiM has been removed completely..

The DIM link is still in the Product Library. I was assuming that there would be two different kinds of link, each with their own application, rather than a change to the application launched by the one extension - which is necessary for both types to be supported.

As for it not recognising that Daz central is presedt, are you running any script-blockers on the Daz site? I'm still not at all sure how the process is handled, but if there is a scripted portion that isn't running (correctly or at all) that migth stop it from realising Daz Central was already present.

The thing is prior to DazCentral whenever clicking on the download and install link after product purchase, it would auto start and auto log into DiM.. Doing the same thing now just sends you to the Daz Central page, where it wants you to download and install it.. I tried Daz Central but it screwed up all my settings, and had no option for custom folder install of content..

Yes, I understand that - and if you don't want to/can't use Daz Central then you need to use other options - the Product Library, start DIM manually, use Daz Connect.

What should happen now then is that after each purchase it should redirect to the purchasers product library or something like that, since the after purchase page has no real purpose anymore..

This is, we have been told, aimed at new users (or indeed established users who don't change the defaults) - for them the after purchase page and its link are fine.

I'm an established user who has not changed the defaults, and it does not work for me. Sorry

Please make sure you report this to Daz https://www.daz3d.com/help/help-contact-us

Also like to point out this apparent mistake... is it DAZ Central or DAZ Install Manager they are referring to??? The button takes you to the DAZ Central install page, so that's confusing for new users I would imagine.

One request!

Instead of completely removing the option to download via DIM from completed sales pages, can we have that as an alternative option?

Something along the lines of some "Or download via DIM" text under the button would be fine.

 

Right now we have to manually open DIM to download via it, which is slightly irksome!

As Central is intended for new users it makes sense to retain the usability for "advanced" users too.. 

 

Yes I would like that as well, to have that option rather than getting shoehorned into Daz Central. .As right now although not a overly real hassle, still annoying having to manually start DiM to download new purchases..

OK, but - if it works like DIM - should yu wish to go back to using Daz Central you may need to go into Chrome's preferences/settings and tell it which application to use to open a whatever file - I'm not sure what Daz Central uses, assumkng it's different from, DIM, and looking at an order page isn't enlightening.

I am using Firefox and in my settings it is set for DiM as default no changes made, but when I click on the download and install link after a purchase it sends me to the Daz Central page, instead of activating DiM.. So it looks like the option to auto start DiM has been removed completely..

The DIM link is still in the Product Library. I was assuming that there would be two different kinds of link, each with their own application, rather than a change to the application launched by the one extension - which is necessary for both types to be supported.

As for it not recognising that Daz central is presedt, are you running any script-blockers on the Daz site? I'm still not at all sure how the process is handled, but if there is a scripted portion that isn't running (correctly or at all) that migth stop it from realising Daz Central was already present.

The thing is prior to DazCentral whenever clicking on the download and install link after product purchase, it would auto start and auto log into DiM.. Doing the same thing now just sends you to the Daz Central page, where it wants you to download and install it.. I tried Daz Central but it screwed up all my settings, and had no option for custom folder install of content..

Same problem here. Clicking on the download and install link after a purchase now just sends me to the DAZ Central landing page. Even after installing DAZ Central it just goes to the landing page after each purchase, and offers to install DAZ Central even though it is already installed. So there is no way to install a product after a purchase anymore, unless you go directly to the product library, or run DIM manually.

I have always used the default directories for both DAZ Studio and DIM, and I did the default install of DAZ Central. There is nothing special with my setup.

 

If that is the case then not sure what the point of having that after purchase page now, more so if the download and install button doesn't do anything even with Daz Central installed..

One request!

Instead of completely removing the option to download via DIM from completed sales pages, can we have that as an alternative option?

Something along the lines of some "Or download via DIM" text under the button would be fine.

 

Right now we have to manually open DIM to download via it, which is slightly irksome!

As Central is intended for new users it makes sense to retain the usability for "advanced" users too.. 

 

Yes I would like that as well, to have that option rather than getting shoehorned into Daz Central. .As right now although not a overly real hassle, still annoying having to manually start DiM to download new purchases..

OK, but - if it works like DIM - should yu wish to go back to using Daz Central you may need to go into Chrome's preferences/settings and tell it which application to use to open a whatever file - I'm not sure what Daz Central uses, assumkng it's different from, DIM, and looking at an order page isn't enlightening.

I am using Firefox and in my settings it is set for DiM as default no changes made, but when I click on the download and install link after a purchase it sends me to the Daz Central page, instead of activating DiM.. So it looks like the option to auto start DiM has been removed completely..

The DIM link is still in the Product Library. I was assuming that there would be two different kinds of link, each with their own application, rather than a change to the application launched by the one extension - which is necessary for both types to be supported.

As for it not recognising that Daz central is presedt, are you running any script-blockers on the Daz site? I'm still not at all sure how the process is handled, but if there is a scripted portion that isn't running (correctly or at all) that migth stop it from realising Daz Central was already present.

The thing is prior to DazCentral whenever clicking on the download and install link after product purchase, it would auto start and auto log into DiM.. Doing the same thing now just sends you to the Daz Central page, where it wants you to download and install it.. I tried Daz Central but it screwed up all my settings, and had no option for custom folder install of content..

Yes, I understand that - and if you don't want to/can't use Daz Central then you need to use other options - the Product Library, start DIM manually, use Daz Connect.

What should happen now then is that after each purchase it should redirect to the purchasers product library or something like that, since the after purchase page has no real purpose anymore..

This is, we have been told, aimed at new users (or indeed established users who don't change the defaults) - for them the after purchase page and its link are fine.

I'm an established user who has not changed the defaults, and it does not work for me. Sorry