Given the second post in this thread says the Frontier Outpost isn't available in DazCentral after purchase, one would think people would realize there's a bug involved and not leap to crazy speculation on some kind of evil plot to force DazCentral on everyone.  

For those who mentioned Daz Connect, the only items that were Connect only were ones with DRM that required Daz Connect. There's been no indication that DazCentral is applying any form of DRM to files loaded using it, as far as I can tell Daz Central is just an attempt at a simplified version of DIM though whether it is too simplified or has simplified the wrong things for more technical minded users is a discussion for a different thread.

I just bought Frontier Outpost as well & would like it in DIM to be saved & backed up in the same OS FS location as all the other products I've bought at DAZ 3D and downloaded via DIM. We were told DAZ Central was in addition to DIM not in place of DIM.

i tought so, its about time to go to Renderosity!

if its not being available in DIM format i skip it ( and a lot of other people ) Daz Central sucks!!!!

Ugh....wth   first I'm not a dude...dude    StoneMason didn't specify what he was getting fixed. If it was the fact that it wasn't downloading through DazCentral or for the other options being available.  

DAZ made in the past a very clear statement that DIM will stay and DAZ Central is only an option for new users.

So you can expect that's only a bug that Frontier Outpost is not working via DIM.

Have a little patience bugs happens.

But in the meantime, DIM functionality is being removed, and DazCentral, even in its broken and incomplete form, is being pushed on us.   Daz has not acknowledged or apologized for the many problems it has cause its customers with Daz Central and rather than scrapping it going back to the drawing board to produce a properly functioning client, continue to cause us and themselves unnecessary frustration.

What DIM functionality has been removed? For me, everything is workign fine what I need.

Links to install with DIM have been replaced by links to install with DC, rather than having added DazCentral as an option.

For me not, just checked it (see attachments) and they go all to DIM as they should. But I never use these links, normally just download new boughts prodcts via DIM directly.
Maybe I never installed DAZCentral, because I immediatelly regogniczed that DAZCentral is a downgrade compared to DIM.

Ugh....wth   first I'm not a dude...dude    StoneMason didn't specify what he was getting fixed. If it was the fact that it wasn't downloading through DazCentral or for the other options being available.  

DAZ made in the past a very clear statement that DIM will stay and DAZ Central is only an option for new users.

So you can expect that's only a bug that Frontier Outpost is not working via DIM.

Have a little patience bugs happens.

But in the meantime, DIM functionality is being removed, and DazCentral, even in its broken and incomplete form, is being pushed on us.   Daz has not acknowledged or apologized for the many problems it has cause its customers with Daz Central and rather than scrapping it going back to the drawing board to produce a properly functioning client, continue to cause us and themselves unnecessary frustration.

What DIM functionality has been removed? For me, everything is workign fine what I need.

Links to install with DIM have been replaced by links to install with DC, rather than having added DazCentral as an option.

DAZ Central isn't being forced on anyone. This is just a distribution screwup and it will be fixed before the day is out. It will be in your Catalog and available once the issue is fixed. DAZ does care about the customers. 

I just bought Stonemasons Frontier Outpost (and added a free one with the coupon).

The free one appeared in my content, the Frontier Outpost did not.

I already filed a ticket, but for the last one DAZ took nearly seven weeks to answer ...
And again they are forcing a new buggy software on the users, since the new content only is downloadable through DAZ Central.
But what does DAZ care? they have my money and obviously anyway see no obligation to deliver the content bought or see that it works.

 

Do you know this for certain, have you actually got that from someone who works for Daz or is it speculation?

I asked for a refund, as I'm not able to download it, but I also stated that I will need no refund, when it is available without Daz Central. So, let's see what's happening.

Update: Seems they solved it

It's not an inference and not an assumption though. The product description for Frontier Outpost states as the install method Central and not the other methods, while for example, the Urban Sprawl Big City product lists as install methods DAZ Central, DAZ Connect, DIM, and Manual Install. Both those are factual statements on DAZ 3D's part not incorrect, worst assumptions on the customer's part. DAZ 3D may be incorrect in their statements but the customers can only read what DAZ 3D has told them.

I just finished going through the new items for today, and found another one, https://www.daz3d.com/shaders--skin-shaders-community-workshop, that I had considered buying, but placed on my wishlist also is only DAZ Central. All the others have four options for download, except of course Stonemason's set.

I stick to manual downloads as I want control over where and what download to which directory and library. I'm not installing Central. We went through this a couple of years ago. That particular attempt at least had a time limit. One year after purchase all links including manual were made available at purchase. I took my money elsewhere then because I won't be dictated to how and where I download or install products. I'll do again. The Outpost product is nice but I don't need it that badly. I have other similar sets that can work just as well.

Yeh, I returned Daisy 8 and some other stuff in protest.

So you returbned items you had wanted because of what is likely to have been a product set-up issue on the servers?

I don't approve of what the direction Daz seem to be going here; I could be wrong, if I am, I'll happily rebuy them at some stage. I'm voting with my wallet.

I stick to manual downloads as I want control over where and what download to which directory and library. I'm not installing Central. We went through this a couple of years ago. That particular attempt at least had a time limit. One year after purchase all links including manual were made available at purchase. I took my money elsewhere then because I won't be dictated to how and where I download or install products. I'll do again. The Outpost product is nice but I don't need it that badly. I have other similar sets that can work just as well.

Yeh, I returned Daisy 8 and some other stuff in protest.

 

All products from the Daisy 8 Pro bundle have manual links. I haven't checkedcked the other purchases I've made but I will.

I'm not interested in what they have, only what is likely to happen (IMO). Daz connect (and it's encrypted DRM part) introduced in 4.9 was intended to replace DIM if useage of DIM went down sufficiently; this was the official view (I forget the exact wording). That DIM has vanished from some products (actually is only one) is worrying. I'll wait and see. In the mean-time, I can purchase what I need elsewhere.

Daisy 8 etc, will be available for less eventually; my gain, Daz's loss. Very little I actually need; it's a fun hobby...

Which has suddenly got less fun.

Editted to correct a mistake.

Ugh....wth   first I'm not a dude...dude    StoneMason didn't specify what he was getting fixed. If it was the fact that it wasn't downloading through DazCentral or for the other options being available.  

DAZ made in the past a very clear statement that DIM will stay and DAZ Central is only an option for new users.

So you can expect that's only a bug that Frontier Outpost is not working via DIM.

Have a little patience bugs happens.

But in the meantime, DIM functionality is being removed, and DazCentral, even in its broken and incomplete form, is being pushed on us.   Daz has not acknowledged or apologized for the many problems it has cause its customers with Daz Central and rather than scrapping it going back to the drawing board to produce a properly functioning client, continue to cause us and themselves unnecessary frustration.

What DIM functionality has been removed? For me, everything is workign fine what I need.

Ugh....wth   first I'm not a dude...dude    StoneMason didn't specify what he was getting fixed. If it was the fact that it wasn't downloading through DazCentral or for the other options being available.  

DAZ made in the past a very clear statement that DIM will stay and DAZ Central is only an option for new users.

So you can expect that's only a bug that Frontier Outpost is not working via DIM.

Have a little patience bugs happens.

But in the meantime, DIM functionality is being removed, and DazCentral, even in its broken and incomplete form, is being pushed on us.   Daz has not acknowledged or apologized for the many problems it has cause its customers with Daz Central and rather than scrapping it going back to the drawing board to produce a properly functioning client, continue to cause us and themselves unnecessary frustration.

Ugh....wth   first I'm not a dude...dude    StoneMason didn't specify what he was getting fixed. If it was the fact that it wasn't downloading through DazCentral or for the other options being available.  

DAZ made in the past a very clear statement that DIM will stay and DAZ Central is only an option for new users.

So you can expect that's only a bug that Frontier Outpost is not working via DIM.

Have a little patience bugs happens.

Yea especially around here, but it's been hours and still no official word just pleas to be patient, I think I'll just spend my money elsewhere.

Ugh....wth   first I'm not a dude...dude    StoneMason didn't specify what he was getting fixed. If it was the fact that it wasn't downloading through DazCentral or for the other options being available.  

DAZ made in the past a very clear statement that DIM will stay and DAZ Central is only an option for new users.

So you can expect that's only a bug that Frontier Outpost is not working via DIM.

Have a little patience bugs happens.

+1

Ugh....wth   first I'm not a dude...dude    StoneMason didn't specify what he was getting fixed. If it was the fact that it wasn't downloading through DazCentral or for the other options being available.  

DAZ made in the past a very clear statement that DIM will stay and DAZ Central is only an option for new users.

So you can expect that's only a bug that Frontier Outpost is not working via DIM.

Have a little patience bugs happens.

As fgar as we know there are currently no installers at all for the Frontier Outpost or the Skin Shaders seminar - saying they are available through Daz central is incorrect. We expect that when this is fixed all install methods will be there for the Frontier Outpost, presumably the seminar will not have a Connect option.

Just looked and on the product page it says Daz Central for the installer but there are no installers or downloads in my product library

So hopefully this will be fixed before long (almost said the dreaded S word)

I stick to manual downloads as I want control over where and what download to which directory and library. I'm not installing Central. We went through this a couple of years ago. That particular attempt at least had a time limit. One year after purchase all links including manual were made available at purchase. I took my money elsewhere then because I won't be dictated to how and where I download or install products. I'll do again. The Outpost product is nice but I don't need it that badly. I have other similar sets that can work just as well.

Yeh, I returned Daisy 8 and some other stuff in protest.

So you returbned items you had wanted because of what is likely to have been a product set-up issue on the servers?

As fgar as we know there are currently no installers at all for the Frontier Outpost or the Skin Shaders seminar - saying they are available through Daz central is incorrect. We expect that when this is fixed all install methods will be there for the Frontier Outpost, presumably the seminar will not have a Connect option.