Originally, I intended to make some significant purchases from your platform again. I already had items worth around $200 in my cart. However, while browsing, I stumbled upon your AI feature, which immediately extinguished any joy I had in shopping. Are you now contributing to the destruction of our shared hobby? Over time, I've already spent A LOT OF Money on your platform, honing my rendering skills for over a decade, and I take pride in posting a picture in a forum after working on it for an entire day.

But why should I continue doing so when someone with no skills can generate comparable or even better images in seconds for just $3.99 a month and later spam the forums I frequent?

You're aiding in the destruction of creativity and the enjoyment of the rendering hobby! I genuinely cannot understand why you support this.

For my part, I've now saved $200. I hope you're satisfied with that.

If anyone needs Nisa's repair and upgrade package, please talk to me directly for the forum. It brings everyone inconvenience, and I will post a repair package for everyone who buys. Thanks!

Richard Haseltine said:

 

We have bluebells in the garden, which feels early though a search of the web suggests not.

Depends where you are, they are out here in south yorkshire.....  

Noticed yesterday that the price history, gallery and forum links were no longer working on W10 Business+Chrome (124.0.6367.60)+DazDeals 4.1.0 (free version)

Okay. Ajuzarn has not been assigned to a Product, and is in limbo. I get this when an asset in a product is not included for some reason, usually left out of the metadata file, or has the wrong filename.

Okay, edit the metadata file in the Runtime/Support folder (DAZ_3D_4939938107523997-1_Ajuzam_DR_Test1.dsx). (Now you can use the DIM Show Installed Files list to get to it quickly). It is just a text file in XML format, but is human readable. Search for Ajuzarn DR.cr2. If it is there, it should be in the "Ajuzarn DR Test1" product.

Re-importing the metadata usually sets it straight. I do not know why it is not working. All I can suggest at this point is to re-install it and check (after a refresh in the folder) if you see a Product entry in that pane. Once you do, it will surely show up in Smart Content.

SilverGirl said:

Faeryl Womyn said:

I don't understand why anyone has a problem with the search option. I type in what I'm looking for and that's what I get. True there is a page or more of items, however what I'm looking for is usually at the top of the list and then other items that may be related to my search in case I typed it wrong and after that I get a wtf bunch of items that don't even closely relate. I still get what I'm looking for near the top and that's what matters.

It must depend on what you're looking for. There have been several things that I was convinced didn't exist at Daz until I accidentally found them in some set.

Most notably: an upright piano. All my searches for pianos got grand pianos, and how many regular folks do you know who have one of those at home? I gave up (though it sucked because her upright piano is really important to one of my characters). By happenstance one of the freebies about a month later was a vignette.... with an upright piano! And then a few weeks after that I was looking for a good vintage couch (by then I'd learned to just start looking at every prop set out there) and found ANOTHER UPRIGHT PIANO! I think my count is now up to four or five that I've found, but none of them showed up in a search.

Likewise with nesting dolls (although I've only found one set). And bracers (generally part of clothing sets). Most of the cat statues have been part of environment sets. I finally found ONE key fob for a modern car, and it was in a set of knick-knacks.

Type in "plush toy" - you get a bunch of anthropomorphic-type critters that aren't, strictly speaking, plushies, and one set of plushies tossed on the floor. Hit up some select pajama sets, though? Bedroom environments? Select Sloshwerks products? THAT is apparently where they're hiding! 

@SilverGirl, I just finished going through my props and adding them to categories that made sense to me. Some never were categorized beyond 'Props' or 'Prop' or were something weird, and 'Musical' is one that isn't always used. If you don't have the upright pianos, look at the sets https://www.daz3d.com/collective3d-portrait-vignettes-old-west-1 and https://www.daz3d.com/west-saloon. The older one is Iray as well as the newer one. 

If you have the time, review the props and environments that you have and make sure the props are assigned to Smart Content > Props categories that you will think of when you need it. Like put food in food and not in kitchenware or decoration or vice versa on in Other. I sorted Toys also and plushies/stuffed toys got their own sub-category. Many were hiding in Decoration.

@xyer0, If one is doing a naming structure for a computer you have to go from the major level down to the lowest level. For example, Instrument, Piano, Grand; Instrument, Piano, Upright; Instrument, Pianaforte or if in a machine shop - Washer, plastic, 1/2 inch, Washer, metal, 1/4 inch, Washer, metal, .5mm... But it would have to be behind the scenes on a commercial site, although I do look up computer items easily using that method at MicroCenter.

Mary

Although it wasn't originally the case, I am also now being asked to confirm cookie settings on nearly every page I visit on the Daz3D site, regardless of which option I pick each time.

Product pages, store listing pages, vendor pages, forum pages, gallery albums, gallery pages, the blog, the EULA page, the press page, etc.

The only exception I've yet found is going into the Help/Customer Support/Tech Ticket section, where it doesn't seem to ask.

doubledeviant said:

Torquinox said:

doubledeviant said:

snip

I disagree. Those promos show the product in ways it may actually be used. And the promos themselves are quite well done. Besides, the DAZ store has never been completely SFW, any more than art has ever been completely SFW. It is the way of things.  

I understand and share the inclination to defend the images on artistic grounds. The issue is that Daz's primary function for me is to be a digital storefront for 3D assets - not an art venue - and these images potentially risk its utility in that regard by courting the wrong kind of social attention. Businesses (justly or otherwise) deemed to sell pornographic content can face significant difficulties in the U.S. and other territories:

- loss of access to PayPal and other payment processing services.
- flagging of credit card transactions and bank transfers as potentially suspicious or fraudulent.
- mandates requiring strict age verification for access. (P-hub and other adult content providers are currently fighting a losing battle against a rising number of new state laws.)
- increased scrutiny from governments and social pressure groups, and potential demands for censorship or alteration of content.
- exclusion from Internet search results.
- blacklisting from public and company networks.
It has been relatively easy to promote a positive image of Daz to non-users in the past. Browsing the store in bits of freetime at work or in public has been mostly non-controversial. I don't see these images as offering any benefit worth potential upset of that state of affairs.

Perfect way to fight back aginst this type of unreasonable pressure IMO. DAZ has been dealing with this for a long time, so i assume they know what they are doing and I am thrilled to see the site becoming less censored.

Censored said:

memcneil70 said:

Censored said:

lou_harper said:

richardandtracy said:

I do appreciate the fenced produced by Censored (https://www.daz3d.com/modular-metal-railings-merchant-resource). They'd go nicely with my fancy iron gate freebie from 2022 here https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/7679196/#Comment_7679196  . Glad someone else has realised the shortage of such things too. I am also impressed with the finishes - the rusty ones look particularly realistic.

Regards,

Richard

I was going to mention the fence too. :)

Thanks you both, it was a pack that occurred to me while making my original modular fence pack, unfortunately it just took until now to free up enough time to make them. I hope you enjoy using them if you managed to pick them up.

I only saw them because of Richard's post. I put them in my cart and waited for the store to sort itself out. When I looked at them, I envisioned a number of sets I have that I could use them with once I am back rendering full time. I like that 'snap-to' feature. Old eyes rejoice. Everything you do gets a hard look by me right away. If money is tight, I will wishlist, but otherwise buy ASAP. 

I have often wondered how much forum engagement results in users seeing as of yet unnoticed products that they may need but didn't spot initially, I'm glad Richard made his post, and at some point I should check his freebie outas a thank you.

[Cringe] .. A real PA looking at my stuff... [Gulp]

It's difficult to know how much influence comes from the forums here when there is no reliable view counter. When I first started doing freebies at Rendo, I went back hourly and plotted graphs of downloads against time. I couldn't ever find a correlation other than whether the freebie was unexpected, very well done or in a new area that others hadn't done before. It did mean I was blown away by the number and speed of 'Vomiting Pose' downloads. I had accidentally found an unfilled niche..

Returning to the number of views on threads.. I don't think it's generally more than a few score views a day (60-80?), and then the number of purchases from a linked post.. 1in8? 1in10? Hard to be convinced the effect is significant as a proportion of sales unless the total number is around 100-ish. I may be a bit on the low side, but when it comes to money, being pessimistic is usually the safer option!

Regards,

Richard.

Torquinox said:

doubledeviant said:

snip

I disagree. Those promos show the product in ways it may actually be used. And the promos themselves are quite well done. Besides, the DAZ store has never been completely SFW, any more than art has ever been completely SFW. It is the way of things.  

I understand and share the inclination to defend the images on artistic grounds. The issue is that Daz's primary function for me is to be a digital storefront for 3D assets - not an art venue - and these images potentially risk its utility in that regard by courting the wrong kind of social attention. Businesses (justly or otherwise) deemed to sell pornographic content can face significant difficulties in the U.S. and other territories:
- loss of access to PayPal and other payment processing services.
- flagging of credit card transactions and bank transfers as potentially suspicious or fraudulent.
- mandates requiring strict age verification for access. (P-hub and other adult content providers are currently fighting a losing battle against a rising number of new state laws.)
- increased scrutiny from governments and social pressure groups, and potential demands for censorship or alteration of content.
- exclusion from Internet search results.
- blacklisting from public and company networks.
It has been relatively easy to promote a positive image of Daz to non-users in the past. Browsing the store in bits of freetime at work or in public has been mostly non-controversial. I don't see these images as offering any benefit worth potential upset of that state of affairs.

SapphireBlue said:

tsroemi That's a very dreamy render with a lot of feeling in it. And now that you've shared your first image in this thread, I hope you'll share more! 

Here's the info about how to embed those images for next time: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/523531/solved-how-to-post-an-image-in-forum

Thank you, both for the nice comment and the link! I remember now, it's really very simple. Will do it like this next time.  

tsroemi That's a very dreamy render with a lot of feeling in it. And now that you've shared your first image in this thread, I hope you'll share more! 

Here's the info about how to embed those images for next time: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/523531/solved-how-to-post-an-image-in-forum

Faeryl Womyn said:

I don't understand why anyone has a problem with the search option. I type in what I'm looking for and that's what I get. True there is a page or more of items, however what I'm looking for is usually at the top of the list and then other items that may be related to my search in case I typed it wrong and after that I get a wtf bunch of items that don't even closely relate. I still get what I'm looking for near the top and that's what matters.

It must depend on what you're looking for. There have been several things that I was convinced didn't exist at Daz until I accidentally found them in some set.

Most notably: an upright piano. All my searches for pianos got grand pianos, and how many regular folks do you know who have one of those at home? I gave up (though it sucked because her upright piano is really important to one of my characters). By happenstance one of the freebies about a month later was a vignette.... with an upright piano! And then a few weeks after that I was looking for a good vintage couch (by then I'd learned to just start looking at every prop set out there) and found ANOTHER UPRIGHT PIANO! I think my count is now up to four or five that I've found, but none of them showed up in a search.

Likewise with nesting dolls (although I've only found one set). And bracers (generally part of clothing sets). Most of the cat statues have been part of environment sets. I finally found ONE key fob for a modern car, and it was in a set of knick-knacks.

Type in "plush toy" - you get a bunch of anthropomorphic-type critters that aren't, strictly speaking, plushies, and one set of plushies tossed on the floor. Hit up some select pajama sets, though? Bedroom environments? Select Sloshwerks products? THAT is apparently where they're hiding! 

I don't understand why anyone has a problem with the search option. I type in what I'm looking for and that's what I get. True there is a page or more of items, however what I'm looking for is usually at the top of the list and then other items that may be related to my search in case I typed it wrong and after that I get a wtf bunch of items that don't even closely relate. I still get what I'm looking for near the top and that's what matters.

memcneil70 said:

xyer0 said:

memcneil70 said:

...

Back to the original subject matter of the thread, I generally avoided Rendo because of the number of offerings that were little more than three triangles with a string connecting them. And the bad search engine. I only went there when someone was kind enough to point me to a PA or a particular item I appreciated they had shown in the forums. So my selections have been animals, sets, normal clothing, historical outfits included, hairs, shaders, and a few characters.

If DAZ3d starts to be awash with skimpwear, well, money saved. I know that my favorite PAs will still create great things I can buy, and I will have the credit waiting for them. And that will leave more of the other products for those who do want them. No harm, no foul. Peace to all.

If only daz3d's search engine were that "bad." 

Well there is bad and then there is BAD! Depends I think on how familiar one is on the technique of bad coding and how screwy one's mind is to interpret it. After 45 years dealing with computer databases (military and medical devices) I got use to really weird ones in a variety of languages. And rebuilt a few. God help me. 

I'm not on your level, of course, Ms. Mary. I'm so simple as to expect that if I type the exact name of a product into a search field, then it will be included in the results (as always happens at Rendo), or if I recall recently seeing, say hypothetically, a hair dryer in a product's promo, I can type "hair dryer" and get all the hair dryers in the store, as opposed to here, where a product with "hair dryer" in the name may be excluded from the search results, and products with hair dryers in the product description may be excluded as well. I remember a time when this was not so, and its end coincided with November 2020.

memcneil70 said:

As someone in their 70s, I am surprised how protected the younger members of the forum have been! Did you not discover your parents' stash of Playboy, Playgirl, or Hustler magazines as a kid? You didn't share the shower or swim naked with other kids or your parents? Or sneak to the neighbor's house to watch the Playboy channel since your folks didn't subscribe to it? (My son did that one.) My earliest attempts at drawing was due to the comics in those mags.

As was apparently common at the time, I found a stash of porn magazines in the woods when I was young.

Hi snagglebru,

 

I had the same problem,, I unistalled Daz instal manager and then reinstalled it.. Boom the the Daz updatel worked..

 

Hope that helps.

Jason

I've written a small (free) utility (Windows) that makes it easier to check for DAZ/Renderosity duplicates, if anyone care to give it a test run.  It uses an algorithm that translates the product names into store links, it basically seems to work OK with the new vendors but it needs some more testing. 

Apparently DAZ doesn't seem to use a consistent algorithm to convert product names into store links, or they have changed the algorithm over the years (store links seem to be hardcoded, not dynamically generated, so if product name changes, it no longer matches the original algorithm that created the link). 

It does look though as if they are using a specific algorithm for the new vendors so I'm trying to fine tune the one the program is using, to match it.  So if you try the program please report any products from these vendors (copy Product Name and DAZ URL in the program) where you can see that they fail. E.g. product shows in browser, but no "PURCHASED AT RENDEROSITY" warning.  Or you get the "Ooops" page despite you have purchased the product at Renderosity.

When using Vendor Name search use lower case only and omit special characters, e.g, for "-Valkyrie-" just use "valkyrie", or for "~Wolfie~" use "wolfie", etc..  Empty Vendor Search field (with no spaces) will list all products. 

Click on a product on the list, or use the up/down arrow keys to browse the list (Auto Check must be enabled here).  You can also (Auto Check must be disabled here) right click on product icons in the store, select "Copy Link", and then double-click on the DAZ URL field to paste the link into the field. Then click the corresponding "Check" box, if you've already purchased the product at Renderosity it should now find it if it's currently on the list (use full list if you browse different vendors).    

If you log in with the built-in browser you can also see if you accidently have purchased a product you've already purchased at Renderosity.  If may work faster though not being logged in, haven't really tested that. 

Can be downloaded here: https://www.3dcontentmanagers.com/freeware/3d-related/chk-dup-daz-rr/

wolf359 said:

This is not correct ,you are a bit behind the times, on AI it seems 
Generative AI has had the ability to repeat Characters with your customized training data for over a year now
you can even  repose them with “open pose”.

Yes I am a complete newbie in AI, but when I refer to AI I'm talking about DAZ AI Studio that's what this forum is about. I didn't see those features you're tallking of in DAZ, or if they're possible then I wasn't able to use them in the free version. Or that's what DAZ AI Studio is missing.

p.s. With DAZ I even have issues getting basic anatomy, as the AI often comes up with extra fingers or missing limbs or a reversed head, go figure to keep the same character or make specific poses. So may be I'm not the only one being "behind the times" LOL.

xyer0 said:

memcneil70 said:

...

Back to the original subject matter of the thread, I generally avoided Rendo because of the number of offerings that were little more than three triangles with a string connecting them. And the bad search engine. I only went there when someone was kind enough to point me to a PA or a particular item I appreciated they had shown in the forums. So my selections have been animals, sets, normal clothing, historical outfits included, hairs, shaders, and a few characters.

If DAZ3d starts to be awash with skimpwear, well, money saved. I know that my favorite PAs will still create great things I can buy, and I will have the credit waiting for them. And that will leave more of the other products for those who do want them. No harm, no foul. Peace to all.

If only daz3d's search engine were that "bad." 

Well there is bad and then there is BAD! Depends I think on how familiar one is on the technique of bad coding and how screwy one's mind is to interpret it. After 45 years dealing with computer databases (military and medical devices) I got use to really weird ones in a variety of languages. And rebuilt a few. God help me.