DIM disappears, so do I.

I trust DIM to do what it says. I have al sorts of reservations about Smart Content, and now DazCentral.

DIM, as an acronym works; it's meaning is succinct - and it does manage my installs.

Daz Central sounds (and behaves) like big brother.

Studio 4.9 felt like Daz was trying to force something down my throat; this feels the same.

Daz Central is DIM with a simplified interface and option tree, for the benefit of new users.

It quite clearly isn't, when you consider all the reports and issues folks are having. Not to mention (ok I have) all the blatant dislike.

Dislike has nothing to do with whether it is the same under the hood, the issues people have been having mostly relate to paths - the fact that Daz Central appears to overwrite custom DIM paths with the defaults is in fact evidence that it is the same code at heart.

There seems to be noting simple about it.

I don't get it; Dim presents the products I haven't downloaded; those I have but haven't installed; and, those installed. That is simple.

I can't help thinking (taking at face-value, Daz's reasons), that Daz are using a software solution to fix a communication problem - or lack of communication in the form of viable instructions. Not that DIM requires many.

Documentation doesn't stop people from being confused, sadly - it just gives the people who try to help them a reference (and, sadly, a manual for others to tell the confused to read - with added adjectives)

If you can't figure out DIM, how the hell are you going to figure out how to render anything.

 

1.  It's just evidence that it changes your paths.

2. So this is the reasoning behind  the lack of documentation?  And here I thought it was lack of concern.  At least it's better than "it's for your own good".

This Daz Central is clearly not working for me!  Not at all!  I have installed it recently.

Firstly when opening Daz Central it states I don't have Daz Studio which is really crazy.  I am using Daz Studio 4.12 Pro, latest version.

Secondly when I open the items via Daz Central it pops up an error in Daz Studio.  Now I can't use DIM anymore as both can't work together.

So, what now?  Do I uninstall Central and go back to DIM, or what!?  I can download it manually also but DIM did all the work for me automatically.

Thank you,

Laura

 

 

 

In my case, setting advanced configuration in DIM solved the DIM problems, but I needed reset the database and reload metadata for DS. Some download failed, if it didn't fail then didn't load in Studio, even setting directories in Director manager.

daveso said:

horse 2 banner .. 10% off TODAY'S new debut items. I only bought the 2 PC+ items so the discount was minimal. 

Thanks for the info. I would have gotteng same minimal discount probably, but still seems like a decent banner, of course requires buying more but it has good potential if used for buying PA items. If it didn't required code, yesterday would have been very nice.

 

Another DAZ Central only installer. I hope this isn;t going to be a constant problem .
https://www.daz3d.com/to-wonder-for-a-curious-hallway-iray

Hmm. Out of the cart it goes then.

It's being resolved.. it's missing the installer, like the issue we had yesterday/

Yeah, but I need to check out today to collect that 10% off the next Pro Bundle, so it becomes a gamble between sleeping late, buying a currently broken item, or extra off a pro bundle I may or may not even want. Checking out with the rest of my cart is far and away the simplest action. Iirc, yesterday wasn't fixed before I went to sleep either.

I think it's $10 off, instead of 10%. So considering it will be already discounted, $10 seems actually better. Fingers cross it is aplied after all other discounts and not require coupon code.

And let's hope we like the bundle too 

Probably some of those artist will have items in the next bundle or add-ons who are selling today too. Based on that we might get decent hairs and morphs(not just the usual face change but fur, monster morphs, etc), add-ons will have places included.

Hmmm, let's risk it an see how this will turns out. I got already a few things off my wishlist during this sale, let's hope DAZ doesn't fail.

Another DAZ Central only installer. I hope this isn;t going to be a constant problem .
https://www.daz3d.com/to-wonder-for-a-curious-hallway-iray

No it isn't. it's another product without any installers. It looks as if there was a small batch of these. For soem reason the system that generates the store page is listing Daz Central as an option when it isn't - Daz_Rawb repeated yesterday that since Daz Central and DIM (and Manual) use the same package they will all be there together if any one of them is present.

daveso said:

horse 2 banner .. 10% off TODAY'S new debut items. I only bought the 2 PC+ items so the discount was minimal. 

Thanks for the info. I would have gotteng same minimal discount probably, but still seems like a decent banner, of course requires buying more but it has good potential if used for buying PA items. If it didn't required code, yesterday would have been very nice.

Another DAZ Central only installer. I hope this isn;t going to be a constant problem .
https://www.daz3d.com/to-wonder-for-a-curious-hallway-iray

Hmm. Out of the cart it goes then.

It's being resolved.. it's missing the installer, like the issue we had yesterday/

Yeah, but I need to check out today to collect that 10% off the next Pro Bundle, so it becomes a gamble between sleeping late, buying a currently broken item, or extra off a pro bundle I may or may not even want. Checking out with the rest of my cart is far and away the simplest action. Iirc, yesterday wasn't fixed before I went to sleep either.

I think it's $10 off, instead of 10%. So considering it will be already discounted, $10 seems actually better. Fingers cross it is aplied after all other discounts and not require coupon code.

And let's hope we like the bundle too 

Another DAZ Central only installer. I hope this isn;t going to be a constant problem .
https://www.daz3d.com/to-wonder-for-a-curious-hallway-iray

Hmm. Out of the cart it goes then.

It's being resolved.. it's missing the installer, like the issue we had yesterday/

Yeah, but I need to check out today to collect that 10% off the next Pro Bundle, so it becomes a gamble between sleeping late, buying a currently broken item, or extra off a pro bundle I may or may not even want. Checking out with the rest of my cart is far and away the simplest action. Iirc, yesterday wasn't fixed before I went to sleep either.

Even if you check out with the broken item, it will be fixed for you when it's fixed generally. You don't have to wait with the checkout.

I could have, but there's always another sale... or I might pick it up tomorrow as Still New

Another DAZ Central only installer. I hope this isn;t going to be a constant problem .
https://www.daz3d.com/to-wonder-for-a-curious-hallway-iray

Hmm. Out of the cart it goes then.

It's being resolved.. it's missing the installer, like the issue we had yesterday/

Yeah, but I need to check out today to collect that 10% off the next Pro Bundle, so it becomes a gamble between sleeping late, buying a currently broken item, or extra off a pro bundle I may or may not even want. Checking out with the rest of my cart is far and away the simplest action. Iirc, yesterday wasn't fixed before I went to sleep either.

Even if you check out with the broken item, it will be fixed for you when it's fixed generally. You don't have to wait with the checkout.

Another DAZ Central only installer. I hope this isn;t going to be a constant problem .
https://www.daz3d.com/to-wonder-for-a-curious-hallway-iray

Hmm. Out of the cart it goes then.

It's being resolved.. it's missing the installer, like the issue we had yesterday/

Yeah, but I need to check out today to collect that 10% off the next Pro Bundle, so it becomes a gamble between sleeping late, buying a currently broken item, or extra off a pro bundle I may or may not even want. Checking out with the rest of my cart is far and away the simplest action. Iirc, yesterday wasn't fixed before I went to sleep either.

Another DAZ Central only installer. I hope this isn;t going to be a constant problem .
https://www.daz3d.com/to-wonder-for-a-curious-hallway-iray

Hmm. Out of the cart it goes then.

It's being resolved.. it's missing the installer, like the issue we had yesterday/

Another DAZ Central only installer. I hope this isn;t going to be a constant problem .
https://www.daz3d.com/to-wonder-for-a-curious-hallway-iray

Hmm. Out of the cart it goes then.

You can't run them simultaneously, but if you close Daz Central you can use DIM.

Yes, as could anyone who actuallt reads the forums. Especially about new releases the core software. 

DAZ Central isn't being forced on anyone. This is just a distribution screwup and it will be fixed before the day is out. It will be in your Catalog and available once the issue is fixed. DAZ does care about the customers. 

I just bought Stonemasons Frontier Outpost (and added a free one with the coupon).

The free one appeared in my content, the Frontier Outpost did not.

I already filed a ticket, but for the last one DAZ took nearly seven weeks to answer ...
And again they are forcing a new buggy software on the users, since the new content only is downloadable through DAZ Central.
But what does DAZ care? they have my money and obviously anyway see no obligation to deliver the content bought or see that it works.

 

Do you know this for certain, have you actually got that from someone who works for Daz or is it speculation?

This is a known issue, Jack is trying to get it fixed. 

it another of those DAZ Central only installers. I hope this isn;t going to be a ocnstant problem. I have it in my cart and now happy I didn;t check out yet.

No it isn't. It looks as if it's another product with no installers, fro some reason the system is showing Daz Central as an installl method even when it isn't (the list of isntallers is generated from the available downloads, it isn't a separate ist added by a human).

Another DAZ Central only installer. I hope this isn;t going to be a constant problem .
https://www.daz3d.com/to-wonder-for-a-curious-hallway-iray

it another of those DAZ Central only installers. I hope this isn;t going to be a ocnstant problem. I have it in my cart and now happy I didn;t check out yet.

This Daz Central is clearly not working for me!  Not at all!  I have installed it recently.

Firstly when opening Daz Central it states I don't have Daz Studio which is really crazy.  I am using Daz Studio 4.12 Pro, latest version.

Secondly when I open the items via Daz Central it pops up an error in Daz Studio.  Now I can't use DIM anymore as both can't work together.

So, what now?  Do I uninstall Central and go back to DIM, or what!?  I can download it manually also but DIM did all the work for me automatically.

Thank you,

Laura

Thanks, nemesis10. That's about what I thought. It's too long for me. My iMac's 1GB video card is not good enough for iRay. I've seen the messages in the log files. I've actually accepted the fact that I need to get a PC just so I can easily handle iRay. And I will ignore DAZ Central as long as humanly possible.

I only come back here to see if DAZ finally got over the DAZ Central Identity crisis. Is it still a Beta version? Why does the announcement say DAZ Central is for everyone, when it is not?

You know you don't really want Daz Central... it is really for newbies who don't rearrange their stuff.  I am puzzled by those people who are already using DIM (which is pretty robust when you sit down to use it), DAZ Connect which is more than fine for some of us, or those who install manually.  The image above took a bit longer because it has all the bells and whistles (DOF, a large emmisive surface as the background, figure, geoshells etc...)

Except Stonemason's new Frontier Outpost is ONLY available to download with Daz Central. I have no interest in installing or using Daz Central but now I have to because I bought Frontier Outpost. I hope this isn't a trend.

It was a glitch in the store that is now repaired; you don't need Daz Central...  The overarching mistake that was made was that if you already have a method to install, you don't need Daz Central.  It was meant for new users as "training wheels" but it shares the same databases as DIM and DazConnect so it looks like it can overwrite the database. Since, there is an apparently large contingent that never backs up their database for "reasons"; they found the database damaged without a real backup.  Ron Knights will appreciate that I recently installed a version of Daz Studio that broke my Nvidia support on my iMac so I simply deleted it, retrieved the last working one via Time Machine, got its preference files, added an updated Nvidia web driver and it was up and running in 15 minutes.  So, if you are a new user, remember that it is a beta and choose your poison, and if you have a method for installing, don't shift and continue as you were.

Greetings,

Can't use DAZ Central because I use a Mac, but I want to put in a plea, for when it does come out of beta.

Please, PLEASE be more efficient at handling large libraries?  I have somewhere between 14,000 and 16,000 DAZ products (depending on data source), and the number of install packages is larger than that.  When I want to use DIM, I generally start it up, and go do something else.  When I remember to come back, it's usually finished loading its data set, and I can pull down the latest stuff I've bought.  It gets worse if I'm trying to interact with my NAS, where I store the ~50% of my items that I'm okay taking significantly longer to load.

I get that it's using the DIM back-end, but...are there any improvements you can make?

Although I guess if it's targeted at newer users, then you don't necessarily care if it handles libraries that large.  In which case, consider this a plea to make DIM more efficient with large libraries. :)

--  Morgan

i had similar problem..try importing metadata. it fixed mine. did you try Daz Central?

Thanks, daveso. Yes, I tried importing metadata early on when this first happened, but DS on that computer only puts up a short list of products in the window that pops up. I'm pretty sure that it is nothing but what was installed automatically when I installed DS, so is limited to the items on that computer in the default Daz directories that it scatters all over.

That means DS is ignoring my Main Content Directory, (actually named "3D Active Content MASTER") which is on an external networked drive, even though I have set up that installation of DS to have that Main Content Directory (on the external drive) in the list of content directories:

In a word: Bedlam.

Greetings,

Love y'all.

I'd say, 'Decaf is a thing.' but I'm prolly more caffienated than most.

Haven't had a chance to play with DAZ Central because...I use a Mac, primarily, and a PC only for final renders. :)  So I waited a few hours.

Looking forward to playing with what is apparently a wretched hive of scum and villainy.  Also looking forward to playing with Stonemason's latest.

--  Morgan