The current 8.1 release of Carrara will support adding and posing Gen 4 (i.e. Michael 4 and Victoria 4) characters directly. The procedure is documented in the draft Carrara manual. Search for "Using DAZ and Poser Content" in the manual.

Genesis figures, such as Michael 5 and Victoria 5, are supported only in Carrara 8.5, which is available as a public beta. The procedure for making your content visible to Carrara is the same as before; however, the Genesis support isn't 100% ready yet (that's why it's a beta), so you may encounter some glitches. Some file types that are used by DAZ Studio 4.5 are also not yet readable in Carrara. This means that when you open up some of your content directories, they may be mysteriously empty.

My experience has been that Carrara works very well with the Gen 4 figures: it's very easy to add them, pose them and render them. On the Mac, I've found the latest 8.5 betas to be a bit more stable than the official 8.1.1 release. Support for the Genesis figures is a mixed bag: promising and quite far advanced, but not all there yet.

Zawarkal said:

Not easy, but I got my list together. Here is my first pull. I will post image when done.

069 Genesis Starter Bundle
101 Michael 4 Morphs++
145 Safari Furniture for Kids4
174 The Living Room Collection

Okay, here goes.

Title: Playtime's Over
Tag: Zawarkal #01
Saying: It's like being at the kids table at Christmas... you can put your elbows on it

used:
Genesis Starter Bundle's Troll, Hampton Hair, and Scoopback Mini Dress
Michael 4 Morphs++ used lots of dial settings
Safari Furniture for Kids4
The Living Room Collection's table, chairs, rug, walls, lamp

Not easy, but I got my list together. Here is my first pull. I will post image when done.

069 Genesis Starter Bundle
101 Michael 4 Morphs++
145 Safari Furniture for Kids4
174 The Living Room Collection

Ah Progress :)

I see now both figures in my content tab named Micael 4.dsb and victoria 4.2.dsb

However an error pops up when I try to load it...i've loaded it to this message. It says it is intended to be run as a result of loading an ExP enabled "Michael 4" based figure from the content tab.

Tremendous help so far thank you!

When you Buy Carrara (standard or Pro) then you'll get the Carrara Native Content installer, plus a bundle of "bonus" files from Daz3D.
You should get some Models and morphs like Victoria and Michael 4, as well as some Carrara (high resolution) shaders for both of those models,. which give you a good example for the shader setting for other figures.
there's also some 3D paint brushes, and example scenes.

The Wizards can be handy for quickly creating scenes from a set of options, but generally , once you're familiar with using carrara, you'll want to start with a new empty scene and just add the components you want to work with.

As far a Importing complete Daz studio or Poser scenes,. yes, it can be done,. but it's just as easy to load figures directly into Carrara, and create your scene, rather than go through an Import process which will convert and open the scene from another application.

The C8.5 beta , can import DUF files from Daz studio 4 or higher, but Daz Studio, and Poser, both have features which Carrara doesn't support,. such as Uber-environment or other DS plugins like dynamic cloth,. or posers dynamic hair and cloth,. which can mean that Carrara will either not load the Poser / Daz Scene file, or it will cause an error when loading it.

It's an easier process, and a better work-flow to build your scenes in the program you want to work in, rather than importing from another program,

as for the "Add runtime",. make sure you're in the "Content" section of the browser,. (See pic)

Hope it helps :)

Michael 4 is an Generations 4 figure, and it is in Poser Format, like all figures before Genesis.
You need to go to the Content Library pane, select Poser Formats > My Library > Figures > DAZ People to find him. There should also be content in the My Library > Pose folder.

Hello. I installed Daz Studio 4.5 and Michael 4.
But i can't access Michael 4, it doesn't show up anywhere.
How to use it?

I believe the V4 and M4 shapes for Genesis are just shapping morphs. There is no icon in smart content or the content library to load them, like the V5 and M5 characters have.

Select a Genesis figure. Go to the shaping panel. Under actor you should she the Victoria 4 and Michael 4 shapes listed. You will also see the Victoria 5 and Michael 5 shapes. If you slide the shape dialog up to 1, you will get that shape.

You should be able to create an icon to load the Genesis figure with that shape already applied, but I am too new at this to know how to do that.

A couple of additions and one update

Added & Updated 12-20-2012

Aaron for Genesis Young Teen Justin (1.0) (DSON)
Andrea for Genesis Young Teen Julie (1.0) (DSON)
Catgirl Genesis (1.3) (DSON)
Deborah for Julie (1.0) (DSON)
Faces of Teens (1.0) (DSON)
Foxy and Wolfie for Genesis (1.0) (DSON)
Mall Girl for Genesis (1.0) (DSON)
Paul Hair for Genesis and M4 (1.0) (Genesis, Victoria 4, & Michael 4)
Paxton Hair (1.0) (DSON)
Pink Ink (1.0) (DSON)
Pink Ink Textures (1.0) (DSON)
Pure Hair Catwalk (1.0) (DSON)
Pure Hair Messy for Genesis (1.0) (DSON)
Jesse for Genesis (1.0) (DSON)
Raquel for Genesis (1.0) (DSON)
Raquel Textures (1.0) (DSON)
Real Deal for Real Feel Pullover (1.0) (DSON)
Real Feel Pullover Genesis (1.0) (DSON)
Scorching Black and Red (1.0) (DSON)
Teen Swag (1.0) (DSON)
Teen Swag Textures (1.0) (DSON)
Teenage Poses (1.0) (DSON)
Tre (1.0) (DSON)
Tre Textures (1.0) (DSON)
True Love Poses (1.0) (DSON)
Young Teens 5 Pro Bundle (see separate entries for each product in the bundle)
Young Teens 5 Julie (1.0) (DSON)
Young Teens 5 Justin (1.0) (DSON)
Young Teens 5 Starter Bundle (see separate entries for each product in the bundle)

Oher Notes: Some questions about Hampton Hair and DSON came up in some older posts. DAz has some info about Hampton Hair on the V5 Pro Bundle page that indicates this:

Hampton Hair is a Poser format hair with morphs to fit Genesis and various Genesis shapes, it DOES NOT require any additional files to work with Genesis in Poser

Paul Hair for Genesis and M4 (sku: 15387 Description) that just got added to the list is in Poser format too, if your wondering why it didn't have any DSON files for it.

ndrzeja said:

chohole said:

The internal organs and skeleton were built to work with M4

That's the part I'm interested in. Does it mean it won't work with the V5 ?

Thanks for the quick reply.

The easy answer: The M4 skeleton and M4 internal organs will NOT work with Michael 5.

The advanced answer: The DAZ figures come in generations; Michael 5 is a fifth generation character while Michael 4 is a fourth generation. Now while a lot of stuff designed for M4 will work on M5 through the auto fit (provided you have the V4 and M4 shapes for Genesis installed) I'm not sure this would work on the skeleton and internal organs. You might get some kind of result through careful resizing but it would take time and effort and might not look all that great...

edit: pff should type faster :P

Michael 4 is an older product compared to Michael 5

Michael 4 is a standalone figure, Michael 5 is a variant of Genesis, and needs Genesis to work. Genesis is the default DAZ 3D figure which comes with Daz Studio 4+
Hope that helps a bit
The internal organs and skeleton were built to work with M4

ZamuelNow said:

Two figures with hair and UberEnvrionment? This must be a Christmas miracle. I could nitpick over getting the colors wrong on Belle's dress but with freebies I'd go crazy trying to hit that level of accuracy. May try to re-render at a higher quality.

In a holiday story of days of old
Comes a quaint crossover oft untold
Ebeneezer Scrooge had no joy in his heart
When along walked Belle, that young upstart
Hearing his demeanor, a heart she hoped to lift
And what better way than a brand new gift?
Searching the book store near her home
She stumbled upon the perfect tome
Excitement and adventure should fill him with mirth
(And a first edition certainly had worth)
Rushing to meet him with an exuberant smile
"Merry Christmas, hope this lasts you a while"
Taken aback, he paused on that day
Eagerly she waited to hear what he'd say
Peace and goodwill? Such hopes were dashed
Scrooge's dour reply...

"...BUT IT'S NOT CASH"
Daz 4.5

DEFAULTS AND UNCOUNTED
Genesis

PAID
Genesis Evolution: Expressions
Addition HairStyles

FREE
Lighting -- Arah3D Subtly Soft Lights For DS Bonus Freebie -- http://www.sharecg.com/v/64526/browse/21/DAZ-Studio/Arah3D-Subtly-Soft-Lights-For-DS-Bonus-Freebie (requires login)
Morphs -- DieTrying's 182 V4 Morphs for Genesis -- http://www.sharecg.com/v/58198/gallery/21/DAZ-Studio/DieTryings-182-V4-Morphs-for-Genesis -- (requires login)
Morphs (Scrooge) -- AMR’s Proportions for Genesis -- http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/5484/
Belle's body shape -- Biao Pan for Genesis -- http://www.sharecg.com/v/66358/browse/21/DAZ-Studio/Biao-Pan-for-Genesis (requires login)
Belle's skin -- PDChrista -- http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/details.php?item_id=58554 (requires login)
Scrooge's skin -- Kevin for Michael 4 -- http://www.sharecg.com/v/40121/View/11/Poser/Kevin-for-Michael-4 (requires login)
Belle's dress -- Gwyneth for Genesis -- http://www.sharecg.com/v/56272/View/21/DAZ-Studio/Gwyneth-for-Genesis (requires login)
Dress textures -- Peasant styles for Gwyneth 2 -- http://www.sharecg.com/v/58199/View/11/Poser/Peasant-styles-for-Gwyneth-2 (requires login)
Belle's hair bow -- Spring Hat for Victoria 4 -- http://www.sharecg.com/v/8185/View/11/Poser/Spring-Hat-for-Victoria-4 (requires login)
Scrooge's coat -- Ghastly's Basic Outfit -- http://www.sharecg.com/v/66190/gallery/21/DAZ-Studio/Ghastlys-Basic-Outfit (requires login)
Coat textures -- Fisty's Tweed Shader -- http://www.daz3d.com/forums/viewreply/148092/
Scrooge's hair -- Mitch Hair -- http://shop.aprilsvanity.com/-free-items/mitch-hair/prod_94.html
Scrooge's glasses -- Glasses for V4 Smartprop -- http://www.sharecg.com/v/35527/View/11/Poser/Glasses-for-V4-Smartprop (requires login)
Book -- Old Books Set -- http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/details.php?item_id=61357 (requires login)
Background -- Village Fountain Background -- http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/details.php?item_id=68605 (requires login)

great take on the theme ZamuelNow, all links checked and good, you had alot of links from the same places like sharcg and rendo, but that is ok, you have plenty of freebies.
ENTRY ACCEPTED

just a quick note, keep in mind that free items should come from a variety of places, not just a couple. Some months you will be required to have free items from a set amount of different places. I am NOT doing that this month.

Two figures with hair and UberEnvrionment? This must be a Christmas miracle. I could nitpick over getting the colors wrong on Belle's dress but with freebies I'd go crazy trying to hit that level of accuracy. May try to re-render at a higher quality.

In a holiday story of days of old
Comes a quaint crossover oft untold
Ebeneezer Scrooge had no joy in his heart
When along walked Belle, that young upstart
Hearing his demeanor, a heart she hoped to lift
And what better way than a brand new gift?
Searching the book store near her home
She stumbled upon the perfect tome
Excitement and adventure should fill him with mirth
(And a first edition certainly had worth)
Rushing to meet him with an exuberant smile
"Merry Christmas, hope this lasts you a while"
Taken aback, he paused on that day
Eagerly she waited to hear what he'd say
Peace and goodwill? Such hopes were dashed
Scrooge's dour reply...

"...BUT IT'S NOT CASH"
Daz 4.5

DEFAULTS AND UNCOUNTED
Genesis

PAID
Genesis Evolution: Expressions
Addition HairStyles

FREE
Lighting -- Arah3D Subtly Soft Lights For DS Bonus Freebie -- http://www.sharecg.com/v/64526/browse/21/DAZ-Studio/Arah3D-Subtly-Soft-Lights-For-DS-Bonus-Freebie (requires login)
Morphs -- DieTrying's 182 V4 Morphs for Genesis -- http://www.sharecg.com/v/58198/gallery/21/DAZ-Studio/DieTryings-182-V4-Morphs-for-Genesis -- (requires login)
Morphs (Scrooge) -- AMR’s Proportions for Genesis -- http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/5484/
Belle's body shape -- Biao Pan for Genesis -- http://www.sharecg.com/v/66358/browse/21/DAZ-Studio/Biao-Pan-for-Genesis (requires login)
Belle's skin -- PDChrista -- http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/details.php?item_id=58554 (requires login)
Scrooge's skin -- Kevin for Michael 4 -- http://www.sharecg.com/v/40121/View/11/Poser/Kevin-for-Michael-4 (requires login)
Belle's dress -- Gwyneth for Genesis -- http://www.sharecg.com/v/56272/View/21/DAZ-Studio/Gwyneth-for-Genesis (requires login)
Dress textures -- Peasant styles for Gwyneth 2 -- http://www.sharecg.com/v/58199/View/11/Poser/Peasant-styles-for-Gwyneth-2 (requires login)
Belle's hair bow -- Spring Hat for Victoria 4 -- http://www.sharecg.com/v/8185/View/11/Poser/Spring-Hat-for-Victoria-4 (requires login)
Scrooge's coat -- Ghastly's Basic Outfit -- http://www.sharecg.com/v/66190/gallery/21/DAZ-Studio/Ghastlys-Basic-Outfit (requires login)
Coat textures -- Fisty's Tweed Shader -- http://www.daz3d.com/forums/viewreply/148092/
Scrooge's hair -- Mitch Hair -- http://shop.aprilsvanity.com/-free-items/mitch-hair/prod_94.html
Scrooge's glasses -- Glasses for V4 Smartprop -- http://www.sharecg.com/v/35527/View/11/Poser/Glasses-for-V4-Smartprop (requires login)
Book -- Old Books Set -- http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/details.php?item_id=61357 (requires login)
Background -- Village Fountain Background -- http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/details.php?item_id=68605 (requires login)

1) you can use the Michael 5 shape with Michael 4 UV mapping, allowing you to use an M4 character map and the wet maps. You can't, at least for now, layer two different UV sets so you couldn't apply the wet maps over an actual m5 texture set.

2) Nipple morphs are in the Genesis Evolution Body Morphs.

3) .yes, ShareCG is a legitimate source of content - as long as the creator follows the rules and EULAs, at least. .duf files are presets, you should just need to apply them from the Content Library pane or by File>Merge with the base figure (or clothing, or whatever) selected in the scene.

Don't want to tear my hair out, so I'm asking for a little help :)

I want to send the standard skin Michael 4++ model to Hexagon. I've been opening the model in Daz Studio, saving it, then "Send to Hexagon" with the bridge. Once Hexagon opens with the Michael model, everything looks good. I save it in native format (.hxn). From here it starts to fall apart. After shutting Hex down and reopening it with my model later on, the model object seems fine, but the skin map is skewed all over the model.

The different ways I've tried saving in Hexagon so far: 1) Save it immediately in .hxn format. 2) Clicking Validate, then saving. 3) Adding a primitive, then saving. Once I'm done saving (.hxn format), I quit and close Hex.

Thanks!

Okay, so now that I am more acclimated to the software, I am starting to create, but the basic Genisis tools seem somewhat limited in terms of creating various and realistic people. So I started looking at skin textures, and it seems that the Victoria/Michael 4.5 is probably the most cost efficient in the long run based on everything it offers.

HOWEVER, looking over alot of the offered skin textures, it says things like "Victoria 4.2 Morphs ++/Base" required.

My question is...will these 4.2 stuff work on 4.5? If so, do I still need to download the Victoria 4.2 Base and Morphs++.

Just want to know all the facts before I make a costly purchase.

Thanks alot!

Sasje said:

Tag:Sasje#04

RRRR:
- Dystopian Console Station
- Michael 4 Base
- Road Roller
- Hat Hat Hat

For the rest:
- City Sewer
- LoREZ Rat
- Sculpting Tools
- Hardcore M4

Saying: The right tool for the right job

Tag:Sasje#04

RRRR:
- Dystopian Console Station
- Michael 4 Base
- Road Roller
- Hat Hat Hat

For the rest:
- City Sewer
- LoREZ Rat
- Sculpting Tools
- Hardcore M4

Saying: The right tool for the right job

A new one.

Callie is NautiCallie on Genesis. Her shirt is actually a Michael 4 shirt.

Geminii23 said:

Morgan R. Lewis said:

Geminii23 said:

Does anyone know if it is possible to morph/stretch arms/legs/limbs aka Mr. Fantastic in action?

Thanks.

Some of the figures have built-in "Stretch Arms" and "Stretch Legs" morphs; they're meant for just normal human height variations but you can blow out the values and get them really long. It's not quite as fluid as Mr. Fantastic's stretching usually is, and it'll only have the normal human joints, but if it's going behind an object it's an easy way to fake it.

Other than that, I haven't tried it, but it's something I've thought about a bit. This might work, depending on your skill with Photoshop (or equivalent graphics software). Position your Mr. Fantastic character, and hide the lower part of his arm. Load another copy of him, position it where you want his lower arm and hand, hiding all but those parts. Render, and fill out the gap in Photoshop.

Do you have any more info on Stretch Arms and how I can get extreme values for them?

Michael 4 has similar attributes under MorphForms with different names -- LegSize, PalmSize, etc. They have a limit of 1, but you can edit the property settings (at least in DazStudio) to turn off limits. You can also select the limb in question, choose "Show Hidden Properties" (again in DazStudio) and alter the size there -- such as lengthening M4's forearm by increasing the X-scale. I just did a little testing, and this seems to work reasonably well with conforming clothing.

With Genesis, it's pretty much the same deal as Michael 4. Look for the morphs under different bodyparts -- Neck Length, Arms Length, etc. -- and edit the property settings to turn off limits. Show Hidden Properties and select a part to alter its scale individually.

You'll probably have to do some tweaking here and there and some postwork to clean up any poke-through that results or other oddities, but it's a starting point.