metalisthename said:

crosswind said:

Anyway, if the above way brought you mess maybe you used Andromeda Head from Colm Jackson in other scenes or something, you just reinstall that product from Colm Jackson. Then you load a pure G8F base figure, filter Andromeda Head, that one should be just ROMFX's one. Then you make change to Name/Label in the same way, add ROMFX prefix, yada yada ~  That will also do.

Yeahh I deleted because it effected my cammy morph as well for some reason, I also have ROMFX cammy model. 

When I saved the named changed model, it for some reason said it touches the cammy model, since I  had a simillar duplicate there.

OK, then just let go ~ Good luck !

crosswind said:

Anyway, if the above way brought you mess maybe you used Andromeda Head from Colm Jackson in other scenes or something, you just reinstall that product from Colm Jackson. Then you load a pure G8F base figure, filter Andromeda Head, that one should be just ROMFX's one. Then you make change to Name/Label in the same way, add ROMFX prefix, yada yada ~  That will also do.

Yeahh I deleted because it effected my cammy morph as well for some reason, I also have ROMFX cammy model. 

When I saved the named changed model, it for some reason said it touches the cammy model, since I  had a simillar duplicate there.

crosswind said:

If so, most likely, the head morphs from ROMFX and Colm Jackson have the very same Names. Daz Studio cannot load morphs that have same Names into Parameters list... It firstly sequentially writes them to Cache file(s), then only the lastly-loaded morph ( with zero value ! ) is presented in Parameters pane. So, in your case,  after you loaded a G8F Base figure, you could only find Andromeda Head morph from ROMFX because ROMFX is after Colm Jackson in data folder. Then you dialed 100% on it and saved the scene.

Then how does Daz Stutio load the morphs with non Zero values ? It reads Cache file firstly to assure fast loading speed, then the firstly loaded morph (from Colm Jackson) has the first priority for the non-zeroed morph that you dialed 100%. That was why you got "the wrong one" from CK rather than ROMFX after loading the scene.

How to fix:
1) In your current scene ( with the wrongly-dialed Head Morph...from Colm Jackson ), click Gear Icon on the right of the Head Morph to open Parameter Settings. Then modify Name as well as Label. (ss1)
2) Save Modified Assets... (ss2)

Then reload the scene, filter Andromeda, you should find two head morphs, one from CK, one from ROMFX. Dial the one you need and zero the another.

Once I did it, for some reason it ruined my cammy model and created a duplicate there Hahahaha))), Jesus it ruined all my cammy scenes, all my cammy models look distorated. 

I have many models and many save, now all of them are mangled. not all of them, I found that andromeda slider went 100% for some reason on some models, which I used the body morph on

Since Colm andromeda appered on many of my models, I decided to delete all his morphs, since his morphs bleeded in to my characters, Even though I didn't pick them.

sssxxx_78b7a16f46 said:

Hello,

Just wanted to share some information which might be helpful. I was using the newest vesion of DAZToUnreal from here: https://github.com/David-Vodhanel/DazToUnreal/releases

I am using UE5.4 version. To transfer the DAZ Genesis 9 model to Unreal I am unchecking "Zero root rotation in import"  in Unreal engine project settings->DazToUnreal plugin settings, keeping the Fix Twist Bones and Rotation checked. In DAZ application while using DAZ to Unreal plugin to export the character I unchek "Import facing right" and leave the "Fix Twist Bones" checked. In this way i get my DAZ character transferred in Unreal facing the correct way to front (facing the camera).

By doing this I was getting the problem to retarget the animations to may DAZ character. The provided IK and retarget assets by the plugin were not aligning the charracter correctly. The character was skewed and almost laying on the ground by side. Automatic retargeting (new feature in UE5.4 - checkbox in retargeting window) was not working corrctly as well: left hand pulled to left side and all body leaned a bit to the left side. I do not know why byt started to think it was because I transferred the character facing to the camera and not to side as by default (also be default the plugin rigs are facing to the side and not to the front).

Then I copied the original G9IKRig and G9Retargeter from plugin folder to my new created character folder to make experimenting. First I opened G9Retargeter and made the target character (DAZ) auto aligning to source (Quin character) by entering to edit mode and selecting root and pressing the button AutoAlign->Align All Bones. This made my character aligned correctly and seems was very happy to see all animations working correctly. Meaning "almost correctly) untill I spoted some weird head movements on some animations. I spend 3 days to find out what was wrong still. Did not find any information neither in Google nor in Youtube. I started to check everything from the skeletons - all the chain to the retargeter. And I hope I found a problem (at least for now). What I found thet the G9IKRig provided by plugin uses retarget chain for neck1->neck2->head as Head but Quin/Manny has 2 chains for neck and head. So I made correction (splitted) G9IKRig neck chain into 2 correct chains: neck1-neck2 into chain Neck and head to chain head.

This made my day very happy. As all problems dissapeared. I hope this will help someone having same issues like me because nobody before reported these problems and how to solve them. 

THANK YOU ! 

Qualcuno sa per quale motivo, dal nulla, DAZ Studio non trasmette più i morph favoriti in fase di Transfer?

Sto cercando di creare una barba che segua il viso, ma quando faccio il trasfer e imposto i Favoriti per il trasferimento, DAZ Studio modifica la barba ma non aggiunge i morph favoriti...

Do you have any of the human Sci Fi or fantasy morph packages? If so, load it and watch as you move the slider from 0 to 100%. That will give you an idea of how to do it in blender if you're willing to go that route.

If so, most likely, the head morphs from ROMFX and Colm Jackson have the very same Names. Daz Studio cannot load morphs that have same Names into Parameters list... It firstly sequentially writes them to Cache file(s), then only the lastly-loaded morph ( with zero value ! ) is presented in Parameters pane. So, in your case,  after you loaded a G8F Base figure, you could only find Andromeda Head morph from ROMFX because ROMFX is after Colm Jackson in data folder. Then you dialed 100% on it and saved the scene.

Then how does Daz Stutio load the morphs with non Zero values ? It reads Cache file firstly to assure fast loading speed, then the firstly loaded morph (from Colm Jackson) has the first priority for the non-zeroed morph that you dialed 100%. That was why you got "the wrong one" from CK rather than ROMFX after loading the scene.

How to fix:
1) In your current scene ( with the wrongly-dialed Head Morph...from Colm Jackson ), click Gear Icon on the right of the Head Morph to open Parameter Settings. Then modify Name as well as Label. (ss1)
2) Save Modified Assets... (ss2)

Then reload the scene, filter Andromeda, you should find two head morphs, one from CK, one from ROMFX. Dial the one you need and zero the another.

peninshullahorn said:

Dear senior members,

Thank you all so much for the various pieces of advice!

It's surprising how dForce, despite being such a powerful tool, can be quite tricky when it comes to making fine adjustments. I found it really interesting that many of you have faced similar challenges.

Of course, exporting the mesh to an external tool (I'm a ZBrush user, so I'm quite comfortable with that) and creating a morph to tweak the shape is definitely an option. However, the issue I was asking about is more on the minor side, so that approach might be a bit overkill for what I need.

What I was looking to do was more along the lines of "the simulation itself isn’t broken, but I just want to tweak the look a bit to match my personal preference." For example, let's say I've simulated the movement of a woman's skirt with dForce. The result is fine, but I feel like "it would look nicer if just a bit more of the knee was showing, so I want to nudge the skirt slightly to the right." It’s that kind of small adjustment I'm talking about.

Among all the suggestions I received, "Mesh Grabber" seems to be the closest to what I need. However, I’m curious if it can be used like the move brush in ZBrush, where you can "move the mesh as a whole." In ZBrush, if you increase the brush size, you can lift or shift the mesh, and if Mesh Grabber can do something similar, that would be fantastic. From what I’ve seen in the promo videos, it looks more like it’s used to pull or stretch the mesh (like stretching a rubber band), so I’m wondering if it can be used for finer adjustments like "moving the hem of the skirt slightly to reveal a bit more knee."

 

Moving something like a hem-line (up), or part of a hem-line, is pretty easy to do with Meshgrabber - providing you carefully select the faces/vertex that need to be shifted and you don't want to shift them too much.Getting a good-look depends on the "material pattern", pose and how much movement you want to make ... If the material has a complex pattern you might find the result doesn't look too good, but otherwise little tweaks are usually okay, and especially if the result doesn't need to be "close-up" will look good in the render. 

If export to other software, with better "scuplting", is an option then that would definately work better for "drastic changes"

nonesuch00 said:

MimicMolly said:

I have almost remade one of my OCs with G9, thanks to Wagner 9! Here is a comparison of a digitally-colorized sketch I did, and the G9/DAZ version. However, I am "missing" some components to make him more accurate:

• Round eyes morph. The DAZ version, even with the toon bits, has the eyes not round enough. (But a large majority of my drawn characters have round eyes.)
• The "Spock" eyebrows. My OC has straighter/flatter eyebrows that curve up a bit at the ends. None of the included G9 eyebrows fit this.
• Short curly hair with a volume morph. Bonus points if there is a Titian red version included. (I colored it too dark, but it was too light before.) I found this cosplay hair at Renderhub and recolored it to my liking, but it is a prop hair. AprilYSH's Portia Hair comes close too and was what I used before. It just didn't have the random little whisps like the cosplay hair.
• Adam's apple morph. I saw one in some package. One of the morphs to make his G9 preset was a feminine morph I transferred from G8F, so that reduced the size of his Adam's apple. So I need to dial it back up.

*snip*

The eyes are probably the most important, since I plan to use this character preset for drawing than rendering.

I should probably do a comparison render with the previous G8.1M who used a mix of Ollie 8 and Torment 8.1, because this character is supposed to look like a "young jester." So he has a longish face with a long aquiline/Roman nose. I could never get the G8 version to look young like this G9 version. 

Nice translation into DAZ

Thanks! (DAZ didn't notify me of your comment and I didn't see it until now.)

peninshullahorn said:

Dear senior members,

Thank you all so much for the various pieces of advice!

It's surprising how dForce, despite being such a powerful tool, can be quite tricky when it comes to making fine adjustments. I found it really interesting that many of you have faced similar challenges.

Of course, exporting the mesh to an external tool (I'm a ZBrush user, so I'm quite comfortable with that) and creating a morph to tweak the shape is definitely an option. However, the issue I was asking about is more on the minor side, so that approach might be a bit overkill for what I need.

 

What I was looking to do was more along the lines of "the simulation itself isn’t broken, but I just want to tweak the look a bit to match my personal preference." For example, let's say I've simulated the movement of a woman's skirt with dForce. The result is fine, but I feel like "it would look nicer if just a bit more of the knee was showing, so I want to nudge the skirt slightly to the right." It’s that kind of small adjustment I'm talking about.

 

Among all the suggestions I received, "Mesh Grabber" seems to be the closest to what I need. However, I’m curious if it can be used like the move brush in ZBrush, where you can "move the mesh as a whole." In ZBrush, if you increase the brush size, you can lift or shift the mesh, and if Mesh Grabber can do something similar, that would be fantastic. From what I’ve seen in the promo videos, it looks more like it’s used to pull or stretch the mesh (like stretching a rubber band), so I’m wondering if it can be used for finer adjustments like "moving the hem of the skirt slightly to reveal a bit more knee."

Yep, I know what you mean and I use Mesh Grabber as well. So, in general, you can "move the mesh of a skirt slightly to reveal body parts" with Mesh Grabber but sometimes it depends on the garments you use.... Mesh Grabber has no capability of Mask, Symmetry, Smooth etc. so in some cases, you have to cumbersomely manipulate the mesh before getting the good result.

So that was why, as a Blender and ZB user, I suggested sending your items out to more stronger software for tweaking, like using GoZ is very neat and quick... because in some cases, even a tiny distortion or mesh manipulation may be tedious for you to fix them with tools in DS...

Me too ~ I've been using quite a few G3 characters that I customized 'cause I'm lazy to convert them ~~ Though I don't have further demand for making them way more realistic, I still can share something...

New features on G9 are mostly related to the denser base mesh on Head and 8K detail norml maps that can be relevantly helpful with improving details on figure's head / face (sorry... I personally 80%+ of the time only focus on characters' faces...esp. when they wear garments).

So, as for having denser base mesh, you have no way to make it on G3F's head, the only way is to use some HD character's morph or HD PHM / PBM... as well as increasing Render SubD Level. As for the DN maps, you can convert them from G9 to G3F,  but you have to use PBRSkin shader on G3F instead of Iray Uber shader. The conversion takes time...

As for hairs, you always can bring G9's hairs to G3F, either by auto fitting or direct parenting (esp. for the hairs with custom bones, and SBHs of course...). But I don't quite understand what you meant by " depth in the eyes "...

Then what else... ho ~ see if other folks can give more advices ~~

Dear senior members,

Thank you all so much for the various pieces of advice!

It's surprising how dForce, despite being such a powerful tool, can be quite tricky when it comes to making fine adjustments. I found it really interesting that many of you have faced similar challenges.

Of course, exporting the mesh to an external tool (I'm a ZBrush user, so I'm quite comfortable with that) and creating a morph to tweak the shape is definitely an option. However, the issue I was asking about is more on the minor side, so that approach might be a bit overkill for what I need.

What I was looking to do was more along the lines of "the simulation itself isn’t broken, but I just want to tweak the look a bit to match my personal preference." For example, let's say I've simulated the movement of a woman's skirt with dForce. The result is fine, but I feel like "it would look nicer if just a bit more of the knee was showing, so I want to nudge the skirt slightly to the right." It’s that kind of small adjustment I'm talking about.

Among all the suggestions I received, "Mesh Grabber" seems to be the closest to what I need. However, I’m curious if it can be used like the move brush in ZBrush, where you can "move the mesh as a whole." In ZBrush, if you increase the brush size, you can lift or shift the mesh, and if Mesh Grabber can do something similar, that would be fantastic. From what I’ve seen in the promo videos, it looks more like it’s used to pull or stretch the mesh (like stretching a rubber band), so I’m wondering if it can be used for finer adjustments like "moving the hem of the skirt slightly to reveal a bit more knee."

Greetings ~

You mean the way of transferring Morph Targets with Transfer Utility ?  This way shouldn't be unacceptably time-consuming or tedious in terms of transferring "simple morphs"  ( yes... FHM / FBM do take much longer time as you have to check 'n fix them, adjust rigging and ERC Freeze). So you wouldn't have other choice if you meant it.

But if I understand correctly, you most of the time just transfer PBMs.. If so, yes, most of the PBMs from G8M may work well on G8F though some finetuning might be needed if you care much about details...

As for direct modifying DSF files of G8M so as to load them with G8F... you have no way to make it either because F/M have different geometry definition ~~

DS has sometimes had trouble with embedded morphs, it may be worth saving them as morph assets (use a different content directory in the list at the top of the options dialogue for File>Save As>Support Assets>Morph Assets, adding one first if need be, so you can keep them separate from shop morphs)

Hey,

Does anyone know if that is coming back?? I was goign to use my Face Transfer 2 to make my buddy who is a huge Batman fan in Batman in a poster for his birthday and now it is showing inactive in my wish list. 

Thanks in advance. 

Greetings,

I sometimes have to transfer some simple morphs from G8F to G8M and viceversa, and i usually follow the standard way: Transfer Utility and Save As -> Support Assets -> Morph. But sometimes it can be quite a long and tedious process, especially when the number of morphs is high.

I was wondering: if i want to transfer some very simple morphs, maybe targeting body parts not too dissimilar between the two figures, e.g. the hands (maybe i'm wrong, but i don't think that the mesh of the hands is different from G8F to G8M), is there a simpler, quicker method? Maybe editing some references in the JSON? (.dsf and .duf are basically renamed JSON)

I hope my question is not stupid, thank You in advance!

crosswind said:

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I checked the Face groups and there are none but a base with all polys assigned and default with none assigned. The weight mapping and rigging appear to be properly setup and the product does work as expected, beyond not being selectable.

Then that's the culprit. It might be either a wrong rigging or wrong modification by that vendor....  If no Face Group is assigned to any Joint on stocking, you'll see no bounding box while hovering you mouse cursor there in Vieport.

I'll make a note of that. No bounding box, probably messed up.

If i'm understanding, by looking at other products, to be selectable there must be at least one face group that correlates/is connected to(uses the same name as) a bone in the figure, depending on the complexity of the asset.

That's correct ~

Well shoot, guess all that fancy schoolin didn't go to waste after all.

Now if i could just find an easy way to keep up with my keys....

crosswind said:

Such as a pair of panties just needs a 'Hip' group, even if all polygons are assigned to it, where as a bra requires ~6 groups(chest, chest upper, L and R pectoral, neck, abdomen upper etc)

In the case of the stockings, i'd need 4 face groups, lfoot, lshin, lthigh, and ltoe to match the rigging and be the same as the right stocking.

The skirt would require 4 as well, abdomen, hip, Left and Right thigh as it's a shorter skirt and doens't go down to the shin area.

So, my question now is, is there an easy way to transfer the face groups from the right stocking to the left, or do i need to do this manually?

Yes ~ Face Groups come from rigging with Transfer Utility then we may modify them as needed. So you can simply load that stocking into the scene, re-rig it with Transfer Utility. If the result is correct, save it as Figure asset to overwrite the original version. Like the example in the attached screenshot.

How to properly resave Figure Asset to overwrite existing asset, check this thread (screenshots 4 ~ 7)... https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/8832786/#Comment_8832786

Looks good, although i'd add couple steps.

1. use an isolated directory separate from your primary install, and keep it as minimal as possible. Reduces the risk of borking something else up in the process.

2. Create a new DSF and DUF when modifing assets. This eliminates the risk of the work being lost due to an update of the original asset.

3. Repackage(ZIP) the modified asset for, personal, backup.

Digging into a dsf is always an option if that's faster/easier.

As for this case, strongly suggest you a no-go with modifying DSF file by copy/paste/change... yada yada, because different DS versions may save different data so you might get incorrect results while using your DS version(s).

 I'm gonna try it any way, just because you told me not to.

That is if i can figure out what needs to be copied, some PA's really need to clean up their DSF's before distribution.

Off to break stuff.

...

I checked the Face groups and there are none but a base with all polys assigned and default with none assigned. The weight mapping and rigging appear to be properly setup and the product does work as expected, beyond not being selectable.

Then that's the culprit. It might be either a wrong rigging or wrong modification by that vendor....  If no Face Group is assigned to any Joint on stocking, you'll see no bounding box while hovering you mouse cursor there in Vieport.

If i'm understanding, by looking at other products, to be selectable there must be at least one face group that correlates/is connected to(uses the same name as) a bone in the figure, depending on the complexity of the asset.

That's correct ~

Such as a pair of panties just needs a 'Hip' group, even if all polygons are assigned to it, where as a bra requires ~6 groups(chest, chest upper, L and R pectoral, neck, abdomen upper etc)

In the case of the stockings, i'd need 4 face groups, lfoot, lshin, lthigh, and ltoe to match the rigging and be the same as the right stocking.

The skirt would require 4 as well, abdomen, hip, Left and Right thigh as it's a shorter skirt and doens't go down to the shin area.

So, my question now is, is there an easy way to transfer the face groups from the right stocking to the left, or do i need to do this manually?

Yes ~ Face Groups come from rigging with Transfer Utility then we may modify them as needed. So you can simply load that stocking into the scene, re-rig it with Transfer Utility. If the result is correct, save it as Figure asset to overwrite the original version. Like the example in the attached screenshot.

How to properly resave Figure Asset to overwrite existing asset, check this thread (screenshots 4 ~ 7)... https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/8832786/#Comment_8832786

Digging into a dsf is always an option if that's faster/easier.

As for this case, strongly suggest you a no-go with modifying DSF file by copy/paste/change... yada yada, because different DS versions may save different data so you might get incorrect results while using your DS version(s).

I figure the skirt is going to be manual assignment.

Regardless, looks like i'm going to need to brush up on my rigging skills to solve this issue.

Thanks for the info.

Richard Haseltine said:

smacphee said:

does anyone know how to fix this? this is Mia G9 and boots from Night Queen G8F. i have this with most G8F footware.

 

The boots are intended to be used with the feet hidden, or possibly with a morph applied to the feet to make them fit.

These boots are pretty simple, there's neither auto-hide, nor feet morph but just pose controls.

smacphee said:

does anyone know how to fix this? this is Mia G9 and boots from Night Queen G8F. i have this with most G8F footware.

 

The boots are intended to be used with the feet hidden, or possibly with a morph applied to the feet to make them fit.