Slepalex suggested I ask here too.

"On searching today I found a placemaker plugin (not free though) for Sketchup to create layouts for cities, etc.  Since Sketchup is not my preferred scene creator, I am wondering if there is a city/town/street generator to use in Bryce specifically.  There are so many street maps but not sure how to get it into Bryce - can 2D planes work of such? The terrain height map generator is more mountain related and do not pick up roads.  Or what is the easiest way to create street layouts in Bryce?

I have some street kits from ShareCG but was thinking of something more ready-made and not build streets by parts.

I want to create city/town scenes to which I can add all the buildings and houses I got via Sketchup warehouse or any other sites".

 

I am currently just want a simple flat terrain with various streets but am not feeling like drawing streets from scratch. 

I have downloaded World Machine basic (free).  So, do I have to import any street map into World Machine to get this flat terrains? 

It is unlikely that you will find such a map, but you can schematically create a city block both with the help of TerraBrush and Bryce TE.
If I have time, I will show you how to do it.

I have just downloaded TerraBrush afer seeing your post about it.  Thank you, will await your help. 

If you mean it, then this is done in 5 minutes in TE.

Slepalex suggested I ask here too.

"On searching today I found a placemaker plugin (not free though) for Sketchup to create layouts for cities, etc.  Since Sketchup is not my preferred scene creator, I am wondering if there is a city/town/street generator to use in Bryce specifically.  There are so many street maps but not sure how to get it into Bryce - can 2D planes work of such? The terrain height map generator is more mountain related and do not pick up roads.  Or what is the easiest way to create street layouts in Bryce?

I have some street kits from ShareCG but was thinking of something more ready-made and not build streets by parts.

I want to create city/town scenes to which I can add all the buildings and houses I got via Sketchup warehouse or any other sites".

 

I am currently just want a simple flat terrain with various streets but am not feeling like drawing streets from scratch. 

I have downloaded World Machine basic (free).  So, do I have to import any street map into World Machine to get this flat terrains? 

It is unlikely that you will find such a map, but you can schematically create a city block both with the help of TerraBrush and Bryce TE.
If I have time, I will show you how to do it.

I have just downloaded TerraBrush afer seeing your post about it.  Thank you, will await your help. 

Slepalex suggested I ask here too.

"On searching today I found a placemaker plugin (not free though) for Sketchup to create layouts for cities, etc.  Since Sketchup is not my preferred scene creator, I am wondering if there is a city/town/street generator to use in Bryce specifically.  There are so many street maps but not sure how to get it into Bryce - can 2D planes work of such? The terrain height map generator is more mountain related and do not pick up roads.  Or what is the easiest way to create street layouts in Bryce?

I have some street kits from ShareCG but was thinking of something more ready-made and not build streets by parts.

I want to create city/town scenes to which I can add all the buildings and houses I got via Sketchup warehouse or any other sites".

 

I am currently just want a simple flat terrain with various streets but am not feeling like drawing streets from scratch. 

I have downloaded World Machine basic (free).  So, do I have to import any street map into World Machine to get this flat terrains? 

It is unlikely that you will find such a map, but you can schematically create a city block both with the help of TerraBrush and Bryce TE.
If I have time, I will show you how to do it.

Slepalex suggested I ask here too.

"On searching today I found a placemaker plugin (not free though) for Sketchup to create layouts for cities, etc.  Since Sketchup is not my preferred scene creator, I am wondering if there is a city/town/street generator to use in Bryce specifically.  There are so many street maps but not sure how to get it into Bryce - can 2D planes work of such? The terrain height map generator is more mountain related and do not pick up roads.  Or what is the easiest way to create street layouts in Bryce?

I have some street kits from ShareCG but was thinking of something more ready-made and not build streets by parts.

I want to create city/town scenes to which I can add all the buildings and houses I got via Sketchup warehouse or any other sites".

I am currently just want a simple flat terrain with various streets but am not feeling like drawing streets from scratch. 

I have downloaded World Machine basic (free).  So, do I have to import any street map into World Machine to get this flat terrains? 

On searching today I found a placemaker plugin (not free though) for Sketchup to create layouts for cities, etc.  Since Sketchup is not my preferred scene creator, I am wondering if there is a city/town/street generator to use in Bryce specifically.  There are so many street maps but not sure how to get it into Bryce - can 2D planes work of such? The terrain height map generator is more mountain related and do not pick up roads.  Or what is the easiest way to create street layouts in Bryce?

I have some street kits from ShareCG but was thinking of something more ready-made and not build streets by parts.

I want to create city/town scenes to which I can add all the buildings and houses I got via Sketchup warehouse or any other sites.

Laura, I don’t understand why to produce several branches on the same topic: heights map generators?
Here you can not ask a question?

On searching today I found a placemaker plugin (not free though) for Sketchup to create layouts for cities, etc.  Since Sketchup is not my preferred scene creator, I am wondering if there is a city/town/street generator to use in Bryce specifically.  There are so many street maps but not sure how to get it into Bryce - can 2D planes work of such? The terrain height map generator is more mountain related and do not pick up roads.  Or what is the easiest way to create street layouts in Bryce?

I have some street kits from ShareCG but was thinking of something more ready-made and not build streets by parts.

I want to create city/town scenes to which I can add all the buildings and houses I got via Sketchup warehouse or any other sites.

Googling I was surprised no Turbosquid jaw dropping priced version of thd Burghley House, in fact none anywhere even though they have virtual tours, countless drone videos and no shortage of images, even the floor plans.

No 3D warehouse model even, and streeview does not get near it to make one in Sketchup.

Looking I don't think it would be too hard to knock up the facia though from castle bits and add some of those various DAZ original spires and roof toppers

 

I've been quietly lurking and reading thread for several months. I think you did an awesome job of recreating the helmet.

Trish

Thank you @Stormlyght 

Sometimes I feel a bit lost. I wish I would have spent more time on Blender. Probably it's easier to create some stuff with that software. Somehow I got stucked with Sketchup and this helmet really made me sweat. :-)

This was a real challenge, since I had never done organic modelling before. I hope I will never have to deal with it again! To do that in Sketchup is so difficult and I think some people around here would have gotten way better results. I would say... it turned out "ok"... not perfect but... ok... :-)

What do you guys think?

I've been quietly lurking and reading thread for several months. I think you did an awesome job of recreating the helmet.

Trish

This was a real challenge, since I had never done organic modelling before. I hope I will never have to deal with it again! To do that in Sketchup is so difficult and I think some people around here would have gotten way better results. I would say... it turned out "ok"... not perfect but... ok... :-)

What do you guys think?

OMG no vertex modeling just splines, I would have never left Sketchup ....

I don't think Sketchup existed back then! 

The model needs to be UV mapped. I don't know if SketchUp can handle UV mapping.

I have successfully imported a model I created in sketchup 2017 to Daz.  Looks good, except when I try adding shader presets or textures, it only changes the color. Does not add textures.

bad is a loaded word

tell someone they are a bad driver they explode 

there is no bad geometry, some software perfectly happy with ngons and boolean processes

Sketchup is a classic example and even Bryce and Carrara

there is just geometry that does not play nicely in Hexagon and most other software, not bad just does not work well there

OMG no vertex modeling just splines, I would have never left Sketchup ....

Thanks everybody for the nice comments to my last scene.

@Dave: Wonderful scenerys. The second picture I like most. I love the water material. Stunning pictures. I assume you used Bryce clouds or are the skies photos?

@akmerlow: Very well done pics. I'd have been frightend to death if I were on your Island an saw this pig

@Horo: Wonderful Island and superb lighting. Thank you very much for the PDF manual for Warped Terrains.

@Launok: Well made scene boutique scene: I am interested in your attempts to populate Bryce with a lot of people. The advantage of Daz3D figures you can pose them, but you are absoluty right, after 3 or 4 it's over. Older characters like Genesis, Victoria 4 or Michael 4 are using less memory. Not only the characters themselves, but also the older clothes. I am not familiar with Sketchup characters, you cannot pose them, can you?

@Hansmar: Interesting and original picture.

@Mermaid: I fully agree the Sunless HDRI skies are awesome. Pretty picture BTW.

Hansmar's post brought me to have a look at Rashad's lighting concept EGDLS once more. First I had the impression it is quite difficult (Sorry Rashad), but I was wrong. Of course it's better to understand the full concept behind it, but the good point is, you don't have to (Sorry Rashad) to get maybe not the best, but a really good result. I used only two DomeLights (of four) to influence the EGDLS light in my scene: AAA Skylight Dome and AAA EarthLightDome. EGDLS is a great concept and scenes are rendered reasonably fast (after all there are four dome lights). I tried it out on old scene of mine. I rendered my first attempt with Premium Effects and TA. The new one is rendered with EGDLS in Super Mode. This is only to avoid Moiré effects. You could also do it in Regular Mode. I am not so fond of the Regular Mode but with EGDLS it works very well.

The first attached picture is the EGDLS render (it can be found also in the Gallery here. The 2nd is the TA render. Both render have not exact the same lighting. I could not resist to play around with the light.

 

 

@launok, how lowpoly?

Well, this is not quite low-poly but still not in the league of the fully clothed Genesis characters. I remember that I could only put 2-3 Genesis characters in a town scene when Bryce crashes. This whole Sketchup model (see link) is 34 mb but I have chopped out the parts I don't want to use for my need.  Exported the chopped parts as .obj ends up only about 12 mb.

https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model/09516731-6da8-4bfe-a28f-9afdcbdb8016/Café-Burguer-Twinye-girls-Snacking-Pop-group

This is only 1 idea among many others.  I have also noticed people use Daz & Max, etc. characters but somehow makes the files much smaller in size in Sketchup.

An easier way (for me) is searching the Warehouse with advanced search and choose then whatever choices, i.e. last week, 24 hours, etc. to check what is loaded daily (new to old preferably) as to do random searches which do not work well.  I am spending quite some time searching there every day if I have time!   I use this link to search: https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/advancedsearch.html?backendClass=both

Just want to add that Xnalara characters also works good in Bryce.  Xnalara is a free game-based platform.

mermaid - pity you couldn't submit Living beyond the horizon for the challenge. It's a great idea and very nicely done.

launok - this looks very nice. Good idea to use low poly characters. I ought to look at the Sketchup Warehouse next time I need a character standing far from the camera.

akmerlow - you came up with a very nice island, the water is good too and I find the sky very fitting.

mach25 - interesting shape. The DTE is not the easiest to get to grips with but it is a very powerful tool.

I've been busy with terrain warping and updated the updated PDF again by adding another 4 pages to show how to warp also in the Z direction - and X plus Z direction. Here's the link for those interested: https://horo.ch/docs/mine/pdf/WarpedTerrains.pdf.
There are terrains that lend themselves to warping and others are less suitable. I worked a bit with WorldCreator because the Isolines option is quite a good tools to draw on the terrain. Because I needed about half an hour to make the four terrains I export (8192, 4096, 2048 and 1024) Bryce TE compatible I invested some time in a program that opens all the 4 terrains when selecting one of them and writes the three Bryce TE compatible TIFFs in 3 seconds.
Below a triple stacked warped terrain and its anaglyph.

Just another view of the street scene which I have posted recently.  This time I have added some people which are also from Sketchup Warehouse.  For a scene like this I rather not use Daz's characters as they are very high detailed with textures and do crash Bryce or even let it run out of memory.  Sketchup's people are very low poly and work better in this instance.

If you are not afraid of hand-editing, or using a program to do it... To reverse a normal, you just have to reverse the order of the vertexs... Direct-X uses one direction, Open-GL uses the other. One is clockwise(3D) the other is counter-clockwise(3D). But if they are already ordered, then half the work is already done.

Default order = A -> B -> C, re-write each point as... C -> B -> A, in the file.

Now each normal will be "flipped" or inverted.

(On a side-note, that is why simple triangulation {like in Sketchup-3D} causes some normals to be flipped. It does not correct for the original normal face, it just cuts surfaces into triangles, in the order it finds the points. They should be recalculated so they maintain the same normal as the original, which is a more complex formula to reorder the points after each triangulation. That is how I found-out about how to flip normals... Combatting Sketchup-3D OBJ output.)