Slightly off-topic, but it needs stating. If you plan to use Michael 4 in a game, you'll need an Indie game developers license. This is necessary even if you're creating a free game or using him in a game mod, so do bear this in mind if you haven't already purchased one.

As for custom models, prices will vary depending on the sort of item and the amount of work it takes, so it will be difficult for any artist to offer an accurate estimate without knowing specific details on what you're after. As noted, many will charge up to a thousand or more depending on the complexity, so you might expect to spend more than you're comfortable with.

There is a lot of content for Victoria 4, so that's a good place to start if you are new. There's a WEALTH of information on all the history and relationships of the generations in the forums, but do a GOOGLE search with your questions instead of using the forum search and you'll find it faster. (A generation would be like Generation 4 which is the Victoria 4, Michael 4, Stephanie 4, etc. And Generation 5 would be the same- Victoria 5, Michael 5, etc)

If you repeatedly have problems with something, just post- sorry to see you're frustrated. Getting morph packs and installing them right away prevents the "um, this isn't working" from happening to you.

Richard Haseltine said:

There aren't alternative UV sets fro Michael 4, I'm afraid - but you could use the Map Transfer tool in DS to create M4 versions of the textures.

Thanks, I have found a couple of tutorials about doing the map transfer thing, I will give it a shot.

There aren't alternative UV sets fro Michael 4, I'm afraid - but you could use the Map Transfer tool in DS to create M4 versions of the textures.

I wasn't for sure where to post this question, so I placed it here in the commons. I really like the phillip textures, and options that I have with genesis but I Like using M4, Is there a way to load the genesis uv maps onto m4 so I will be able to use them on him? Thanks

boojumbunn said:

Well.. Poop.. This isn't working fight for me, then. Could someone else check this to see if it's my Meta Data that's screwed up or something else?

1. Open Carrara 8 Pro Beta.
2. Go to Smart Content tab.
3. In the tree, go to Default/figures/People/Male/Real World.
4. Double click Michael 4 to open it in Carrara.
5. Select Michael 4 in the scene tree.
6. Go to Smart Content.
7. In the tree, go to Default/Wardrobe/Pants

Here I see everything BUT M4 pants. I see Genesis Pants, I see V4 Pants... but none of my M4 content shows. The same is true in Full Body. I get H3 Bodystuit, A3MechGirlBodySuit.. but nowhere do I get M4 Bodysuit, which I DO have installed.

It's like it's filtering to avoid M4 clothing instead of include M4 clothing. Can anyone get this to work for M4? Or is it just my system messed up?

Boojum

I had to use products - under ( M )
so it looks like you are ok .

Well.. Poop.. This isn't working fight for me, then. Could someone else check this to see if it's my Meta Data that's screwed up or something else?

1. Open Carrara 8 Pro Beta.
2. Go to Smart Content tab.
3. In the tree, go to Default/figures/People/Male/Real World.
4. Double click Michael 4 to open it in Carrara.
5. Select Michael 4 in the scene tree.
6. Go to Smart Content.
7. In the tree, go to Default/Wardrobe/Pants

Here I see everything BUT M4 pants. I see Genesis Pants, I see V4 Pants... but none of my M4 content shows. The same is true in Full Body. I get H3 Bodystuit, A3MechGirlBodySuit.. but nowhere do I get M4 Bodysuit, which I DO have installed.

It's like it's filtering to avoid M4 clothing instead of include M4 clothing. Can anyone get this to work for M4? Or is it just my system messed up?

Boojum

JimmyC_2009 said:

DAZ Dynamic Clothing made using the Optitex software cannot be scaled.

Most of the clothing that you will find, has been made for Victoria 4 or Michael 4, it can often work well with Genesis figures, but it is NOT made for them.

My 8 and last pull for this time ;P not going to try to squeeze in another *smiles*

TAG: Carola#8

Title: Only Us

We speak without words. We hear without sounds. Here and now there is no You and no Me. There is only Us

* 120 - Udane Hair for Genesis/Genesis 2

* 235 - Cuffed Tail 2

* 207 - Asiatic Lily Garden

* 152 - V4 Fortune Teller Accessories (earrings and bracelets on Kenny, bracelets on David)

* 209 - Velvety Goodness (D5's shirt)

Also Used:

* LB's Potted Palm

* LB's Tall Grass

* DG Shaders Essentials

* Supersuit Shaders (Metal and FX)

* Hongyu Shirts for V5

* JeanZ for Genesis

* Jepe's Kenny for M4

* David 5 & Michael 4

* M4 Cowboy (shirt, pants, belt)

* Tex (texture for M4 Cowboy)

* LB's Mighty Oak

* LB's Indian Grass

fixmypcmike said:

So you reinstalled with the old installers. Make sure you only have ONE Runtime with a "Runtime:Libraries:!DAZ:Michael 4" folder.

I went through and purged the others and it's still doing it.

So you reinstalled with the old installers. Make sure you only have ONE Runtime with a "Runtime:Libraries:!DAZ:Michael 4" folder.

Hi! I've been working on this picture for weeks now, I keep adding to it, and I'm running out of time, so I think I will go ahead and submit it and hope it's okay. (It takes 3 hours to render and there is just so much in this scene that my computer barely loads it and won't allow anything else while it's rendering - so little changes are frustrating to carry out.)

(Sorry I've used mostly Share CG and Rendo for the freebies, my searching for freebies in Google resulted in crashing my computer while Daz was open, and somehow this corrupted my daz database - I have yet to deal with even thinking about redoing all the categories I had set up over the last few years *cries*.)

Please let me know if there are any problems or changes that need to be made, I hope this is okay! Thanks in advance for any comments or suggestions.

Models used in Summer Afternoon:

ENVIRONMENT
The Hills by Fober (used the mountains, hills, fog, his grass, flowers and tree props from this set) (Registration required) http://www.sharecg.com/v/39996/browse/11/Poser/The-Hills-environment-for-DAZ-Studio-Poser
Skydome by glaseye (Registration Required) http://www.sharecg.com/v/45996/View/11/Poser/SkyDome
Skydome Expansion 2 (includes sky I used) http://www.sharecg.com/v/53599/gallery/11/Poser/SkyDome-expansion-3
Zippy’s Secret Garden Registration Required (used many pieces from this, including pond, ballistrades, one of the gravel bases for the patio, changed the texture for the patio to a cement texture) http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/details.php?item_id=64121
Water for Fountain: Liquid Shapes by SpaceBones (Registration Required) http://www.sharecg.com/v/25522/3d-model/Liquid
Shaders by Sha (for water shader on fountain) (Registration Required) http://www.sharecg.com/v/48025/related/7/Material-and-Shader/Shas-Shaders

LIGHTS (Registration Required) http://www.sharecg.com/v/61739/browse/21/DAZ-Studio/UberEnvironmen2-mixed-set-1

PLANTS
Lisa’s Botanicals Free Pear Tree (link doesn’t work in IE, used firefox to open - http://forumarchive.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=49896
Free Scene by Petra Schmietendorf (used tree and flower billboards from set) (Registration Required) http://www.sharecg.com/v/48172/gallery/11/Poser/Scene-02
Flowers 19 – 20 (flower billboards) (Registration Reguired) http://www.sharecg.com/v/9775/gallery/5/3D-Model/Flower-19-and-20
Tree http://tf3dm.com/3d-model/trees-9-53338.html
Vertical Ivy (Registration Required) http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/details.php?item_id=69601
Willow Tree (Registration Required) http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/details.php?item_id=69519
Two Trees for Poser (Registration Required) http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/details.php?item_id=69518
InLite Studio Plant and Tree Pack (Registration Required) http://inlitestudio.com/3d/product/plant-and-tree-pack/
XFrog Red Oak XFrogPlants Vol 1 1st row 2nd item (Registration Required) http://xfrog.com/category/samples.html
Morphable Clematis and Chestnut Tree (Registration Required)
http://www.sharecg.com/v/50865/View/11/Poser/Clematis-and-Chestnut-for-Poser
Spring Shrubs (Registration Required) About halfway down page, weekly freebie) http://www.runtimedna.com/newsletter/2013_03_08/index.html
Fatsia(Registration Required) http://www.sharecg.com/v/53431/browse/11/Poser/Fatsia
FLOWERS: Water Lily, Hydrangea, Sunflower http://web.archive.org/web/20120101023322/http://toucan.web.infoseek.co.jp/3DCG/3ds/FlowerModelsE.html
There are A LOT of well done, (different flowers here that need to be translated from 3ds to object for ds - there is a free viewer that can do this for you found here: https://sites.google.com/site/poseray/ )
Rock Throne With Ivy (used under pear tree) (Registration Required) http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/details.php?item_id=61195
Vertical Ivy Poser and DAZ Studio(Registration Required) http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/details.php?item_id=69601

PROPS
Cupid Angel Figurine http://archive3d.net/?a=download&id=0f0f80cd
Asian Luxuries Rattan Chair (Registration Required) http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/details.php?item_id=68875
Asian Luxuries Rattan Table (Registration Required) http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/details.php?item_id=68883
Smartprop Sunglasses (Registration Required) http://www.sharecg.com/v/68924/browse/11/Poser/Free-Sunglasses-for-V4-M4
Genesis Gardening Items (Registration Required) http://www.sharecg.com/v/68734/browse/21/DAZ-Studio/Genesis-Gardening-Items
Andi3DRocks from mortemvetus middle row, 2nd item down http://www.mortemvetus.com/free_downloads.php?type=1&page=9 (added this because these are the rocks that are visible)
InLite Studio Vox Smartphone (Registration Required) http://inlitestudio.com/3d/product/vox-smartphone/
Garden Pack Rendo (used watering can on the patio) (Registration Required) http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/details.php?item_id=65020

PEOPLE
Texting Poses by Structure (Registration Required) http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/details.php?item_id=68125
Summer Top for Genesis by Wilmap (Registration Required) http://www.sharecg.com/v/64826/gallery/21/DAZ-Studio/Genesis-Summer-Tops
Genesis Trousers by Wilmap (Registration Required)http://www.sharecg.com/v/61927/gallery/21/DAZ-Studio/Genesis-Trousers
Valens Hair (Registration Required) http://www.sharecg.com/v/36166/View/11/Poser/Valens-Hair-For-V4/A4
35 Colors for Valens Hair Texture by Fictional Bookshelf Registration Required http://www.sharecg.com/v/55297/related/11/Poser/35-Color-Options-For-Valens-Hair

ANIMALS
Free Ground Squirrel by Lyne http://www.lynescreations.com/lynesfree7.htm
Free Cat (Registration Required) 18 down from top item on left http://www.most-digital-creations.com/free_poser_poses_textures_morphs_props_56.htm

PAID ITEMS
Volg character by StudioArtVartanian, which includes character, texture, hair, clothing, and poses (used all – adjusted one of the poses for this scene)
Lawn Mower from Daz 3D – (found a free one in 3ds format, but when opened it exploded into pieces, and I didn’t have time or knowledge to fix it)

NOT COUNTED
Genesis 2 Female with Lana Skin – free with Daz Studio 4.6
Michael 4
Elf Sandals for Genesis http://www.faeriewylde.com/FW4/index.php?topic=4608.0 Registration Required (was not sure if these can actually be counted as visible – they can just be seen on Genesis 2 Female’s feet)

XFrog Azalea XFROGPLANTS VOL 1 2nd row 3rd item (same page as claimed item) http://xfrog.com/category/samples.html
XFrog London Plane Tree XFROG PLANTS VOL 1 1st row 3rd item (same page as claimed item) http://xfrog.com/category/samples.html
Tree3 by Medievalworlds registration required (can’t be seen clearly, behind fence) http://www.turbosquid.com/FullPreview/Index.cfm/ID/480774
Bugeyed GoldFish (not seen clearly, but are in pond) http://www.sharecg.com/v/42362/gallery/21/DAZ-Studio/Bugeyed-Goldfish-Figure
Mats for Goldfish: http://www.sharecg.com/v/42363/gallery/21/DAZ-Studio/MATs-for-the-Bugeye-Goldfish-1-1
Birdbath and Walls by faerie Dreams (used walls and birdbath – took apart, used ground plane but retextured with grass texture from CGTextures) this prop used to be here but no longer available (registration required, forum at their website) http://www.faeriewylde.com/FW4/index.php?topic=61.0
Mapps Flowers Set 2 (Registration Required) (may not be able to see in pictures) http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/details.php?item_id=25770
Morphable Boulder by 3-d-c (Registration Required) http://www.sharecg.com/v/46789/browse/11/Poser/Morphable-Boulder (moved this to not listed as I put this in scene but don't think it's visible)

-Cathy (edited to make suggested changes :) )

DAZ Dynamic Clothing made using the Optitex software cannot be scaled.

Most of the clothing that you will find, has been made for Victoria 4 or Michael 4, it can often work well with Genesis figures, but it is NOT made for them.

Thanks Mike, I found the file list and checked it against what was installed by the DIM. Looks to be the same, however I cannot find the SSS maps. These icons do not exist on either Studio 4.5 or 4.6. I think on Monday I'm going to see if Daz will trade out this product for Omnifreaker's UberSurface2 product. Those do show up where I expect them to.

You can find new icons for this product in the following DAZ Studio Categories:
“Materials:Eyes”
“Materials:Feminine:Interjection - Surface Injections for DAZ Studio:Victoria 4”
“Materials:Feminine:Interjection - Surface Injections for DAZ Studio:Victoria 5”
“Materials:Masculine:Interjection - Surface Injections for DAZ Studio:Michael 4”

Ed

Vaskania said:

DAZ_jared said:

Vaskania said:

If you happen to have either of these products, they have separate, rigged tails which may give you an easier time:

http://www.daz3d.com/michael-4-creature-creator-add-ons
http://www.daz3d.com/victoria-4-2-creature-creator-add-ons

They're not geografts so they'll still work with Genesis quite well.

True, but the westernnomad could parent the tails to Genesis rather than conform them. They won't lose any rigging from the autofit transfer, and the results would probably be better using the Milcat. Good call Vaskania.

Yea, I don't conform the tail with Genesis. I use Z translate to push that patch into the body, then the Y translate to place it more towards the tail bone then parent to the pelvis. I've tried actually using autofit on the tail, which looks ok at first, but when you go to pose Genesis, the resulting tail isn't very pretty. o_O

I only know when I autofit anything that sticks out the posing will be difficult. I can normally get it to look good in zero pose but when I try to pose it stuffs up.

DAZ_jared said:

Vaskania said:

If you happen to have either of these products, they have separate, rigged tails which may give you an easier time:

http://www.daz3d.com/michael-4-creature-creator-add-ons
http://www.daz3d.com/victoria-4-2-creature-creator-add-ons

They're not geografts so they'll still work with Genesis quite well.

True, but the westernnomad could parent the tails to Genesis rather than conform them. They won't lose any rigging from the autofit transfer, and the results would probably be better using the Milcat. Good call Vaskania.

Vaskania said:

If you happen to have either of these products, they have separate, rigged tails which may give you an easier time:

http://www.daz3d.com/michael-4-creature-creator-add-ons
http://www.daz3d.com/victoria-4-2-creature-creator-add-ons

They're not geografts so they'll still work with Genesis quite well.

True, but westernnomad could parent the tails to Genesis rather than conform them. They won't lose any rigging from the autofit transfer, and the results would probably be better using the Milcat. Good call Vaskania.

*Edit* Removed "the"

If you happen to have either of these products, they have separate, rigged tails which may give you an easier time:

http://www.daz3d.com/michael-4-creature-creator-add-ons
http://www.daz3d.com/victoria-4-2-creature-creator-add-ons

They're not geografts so they'll still work with Genesis quite well.

Hi all! It's been quite a long time since I've been on these forums (actually since before these new forums), so I thought I'd post links to my Hex Starter freebies:

MilKids4 Starter Suit & Dress: http://www.ShareCG.com/v/40810/view/5/3D-Model/MilKids4-Starter-Suit-Dress
Starter Suit for Michael 4: http://www.ShareCG.com/v/29498/view/5/3D-Model/Starter-Suit-for-Michael-4
Starter Dress for NetherGirl Phoebe: http://www.ShareCG.com/v/29350/view/5/3D-Model/Starter-Dress-for-NetherGirl-Phoebe
Starter Suit for NetherGirl Phoebe: http://www.ShareCG.com/v/29360/view/5/3D-Model/Starter-Suit-for-NetherGirl-Phoebe
Starter Suit for Hiro 3: http://www.ShareCG.com/v/13083/view/5/3D-Model/Starter-Suit-for-Hiro-3
Starter Dress for Victoria 4: http://www.ShareCG.com/v/13081/view/5/3D-Model/Starter-Dress-for-Victoria-4
Starter Pants for Victoria 3: http://www.ShareCG.com/v/13080/view/5/3D-Model/Starter-Pants-for-Victoria-3
Starter Dress for Victoria 3: http://www.ShareCG.com/v/13079/view/5/3D-Model/Starter-Dress-for-Victoria-3
Starter Pants for Sara 2: http://www.ShareCG.com/v/13078/view/5/3D-Model/Starter-Pants-for-Sara-2
Starter Dress for Sara 2: http://www.ShareCG.com/v/13077/view/5/3D-Model/Starter-Dress-for-Sara-2
Starter Pants for Stephanie Petite 3: http://www.ShareCG.com/v/13076/view/5/3D-Model/Starter-Pants-for-Stephanie-Petite-3
Starter Dress for Stephanie Petite 3: http://www.ShareCG.com/v/13075/view/5/3D-Model/Starter-Dress-for-Stephanie-Petite-3
Starter Pants for Michael 3: http://www.ShareCG.com/v/13074/view/5/3D-Model/Starter-Pants-for-Michael-3
Starter Dress for Laura 3: http://www.ShareCG.com/v/13073/view/5/3D-Model/Starter-Dress-for-Laura-3
Starter Pants for The Girl: http://www.ShareCG.com/v/13072/view/5/3D-Model/Starter-Pants-for-The-Girl
Starter Dress for The Girl: http://www.ShareCG.com/v/13071/view/5/3D-Model/Starter-Dress-for-The-Girl
Starter Pants for The Freak: http://www.ShareCG.com/v/13070/view/5/3D-Model/Starter-Pants-for-The-Freak
Starter Pants for David 3: http://www.ShareCG.com/v/13069/view/5/3D-Model/Starter-Pants-for-David-3
Starter Pants for Aiko 3: http://www.ShareCG.com/v/13068/view/5/3D-Model/Starter-Pants-for-Aiko-3
Starter Dress for Aiko 3: http://www.ShareCG.com/v/13067/view/5/3D-Model/Starter-Dress-for-Aiko-3
Starter Suit for Apollo Maximus: http://www.ShareCG.com/v/13066/view/5/3D-Model/Starter-Suit-for-Apollo-Maximus
Reference Planes for Hexagon: http://www.ShareCG.com/v/13085/view/5/3D-Model/Reference-Planes-for-Hexagon

opal42987 said:

Sorry if these have already been brought iup (too impatient to read page 8 yet)
While researching this answer I learned a very interesting fact. The Bra industry states the average Bra size has increased from 34B to 34DD in the last twenty years. I have to ask myself, Is that change a Natural increase, because it would mean there was a radical change in human genetics, in less than one generation. But then I remembered it could be due very unnatural change of breast augmentation. (I will leave my opinions about that out of this.)
I'd say it's the result of skyrocketing obesity rates, actually-- even though a 34 to 36 isn't that big of a difference. There's also a concern (so far either disproven or inconclusive from studies) that hormones in beef and milk (given to cows to make them produce more milk) could be affecting female breast size and earlier puberty rates, and contributing to the falling fertility in males, esp. in the US that cannot be explained away merely by rising obesity rates. (Male sperm count is falling worldwide, BTW, and not just in the US or industrialized countries.)

I have stated several times, I would like to see Victoria sized to match a more Average Woman. In the US that is a woman is 5’ 3.7 (162 centimeters) tall and weighs 152 pounds (69 kilograms). This corresponds to a Body Mass Index of 26.3 kilograms/meters² and wears a size 14. Reby Sky is more “Normal” in that regard. I think Victoria is the product of the Barbie Model mentality, which took hold in the sixties. before that models were more average. Heck my grandmother was a model in New York City, in the 1910’s, and she was no waif. Today most Mainstream models range form 5’9” to 5’11”, with outer fringe being 5’8” to 6” with the extremely rare exception down to 5’5” and as tall as 6’1”. They are Thin - puts weight at 108 to 130lbs in proportional to height. This puts dress size 6-8 with the desired figure around 34B-24-34.

The male characters are similar, actually, though to a lesser degree. IIRC Michael 3 is 6 feet tall, while Michael 4 is 6'2 or 6'3 *or maybe it's the other way around...). 6'2 is prettymuch the equivalent of 5'8 in females. And like the ladies, they possess that same tall, strapping hero build you so commonly see in comics, fantasy art, and the like, even when the men don't look like they're on steroids. M3 and M4 look close to your average male, but their base forms, like V3 and V4 base, are not what are popular-- the popular forms are the chiseled morphs with a 6-pack and a full jaw.

Obesity might be the answer but it would also increase the band size of the Bra, not just the cup size. (for guys the number is the band size), but but the Milk hormones might cause the change from 34B to 34DD. I agree with Agent_Unaware buying the proper size could also affect the numbers.

Actually according to this site, http://ahundredyearsago.com/2012/02/06/average-height-for-males-and-females-in-1912-and-2012/ the average american Male is 5" 9.9" or 177.55cm. so Michael is a lot closer to the Average than Victoria is to the Average Female.

On this page you will find a chart for people around the world. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_height .