ChangelingChick said:

Gordig said:

MelissaGTsaid:

melaniesaid:

Some of the G8 characters came with a G3 version as well, so I would think it would be basically the same thing to include a G8 with the G8.1 characters.

No, not at all. G3 and G8 have the same UV map. G8 and G8.1 do not.

G3 and G8 have different geometry, meaning that for a morph to work on both it would have to be made for both. This is not true of G8 and G8.1.

 This is true, but there are also utilities available to transfer shapes between 3 and 8 easily. It's also super simple to transfer shapes if there's a shared UV. 

Is it any easier to transfer a G3 shape to G8 than it is to Map Transfer a G8.1 texture onto the G8 UV? 

MelissaGT said:

Gordig said:

MelissaGT said:

melanie said:

Some of the G8 characters came with a G3 version as well, so I would think it would be basically the same thing to include a G8 with the G8.1 characters.

No, not at all. G3 and G8 have the same UV map. G8 and G8.1 do not.  

G3 and G8 have different geometry, meaning that for a morph to work on both it would have to be made for both. This is not true of G8 and G8.1.

We're not talking about morphs here. We're talking about UV maps. Two different things. G3 and G8 have the exact same base UV map (barring custom UV characters such as Victoria 7, etc). Textures from base G8 can be used on base G3 and vice versa (I do it all the time). G8 and G8.1 do not have the same base UV map...therefore cannot use the same textures interchangeably. G8 textures can be used on G8.1 (with some manual swip-swapping). G8.1 textures (if they are genuinely 8.1 textures) cannot be used on G8. 

I know they're different, but you're talking about the UV as if it's an insurmountable obstacle, where I would argue that it's no more difficult to offer a texture for both G8 and G8.1 than it is to offer a morph for both G3 and G8.

Also, it is possible to add the 8.1 UV to G8.  

MelissaGT said:

Gordig said:

MelissaGT said:

melanie said:

Some of the G8 characters came with a G3 version as well, so I would think it would be basically the same thing to include a G8 with the G8.1 characters.

No, not at all. G3 and G8 have the same UV map. G8 and G8.1 do not.  

G3 and G8 have different geometry, meaning that for a morph to work on both it would have to be made for both. This is not true of G8 and G8.1.

We're not talking about morphs here. We're talking about UV maps. Two different things. G3 and G8 have the exact same base UV map (barring custom UV characters such as Victoria 7, etc). Textures from base G8 can be used on base G3 and vice versa (I do it all the time). G8 and G8.1 do not have the same base UV map...therefore cannot use the same textures interchangeably. G8 textures can be used on G8.1 (with some manual swip-swapping). G8.1 textures (if they are genuinely 8.1 textures) cannot be used on G8. 

The UV map is just one file "...\Data\DAZ 3D\Genesis 8\Female 8_1\UV Sets\DAZ 3D\Base\Base 8.1 Female.dsf"

Needs just some manual editing and copying the file to the Genesis 8 UV set-folders and the G8 has the G8.1 UV's, the shader needs DS 4.15 or newer though.
One can check the existing (G8/G3) UV maps on how to edit the G8.1 UV file to get the paths and references right.

Gordig said:

MelissaGT said:

melanie said:

Some of the G8 characters came with a G3 version as well, so I would think it would be basically the same thing to include a G8 with the G8.1 characters.

No, not at all. G3 and G8 have the same UV map. G8 and G8.1 do not.  

G3 and G8 have different geometry, meaning that for a morph to work on both it would have to be made for both. This is not true of G8 and G8.1.

We're not talking about morphs here. We're talking about UV maps. Two different things. G3 and G8 have the exact same base UV map (barring custom UV characters such as Victoria 7, etc). Textures from base G8 can be used on base G3 and vice versa (I do it all the time). G8 and G8.1 do not have the same base UV map...therefore cannot use the same textures interchangeably. G8 textures can be used on G8.1 (with some manual swip-swapping). G8.1 textures (if they are genuinely 8.1 textures) cannot be used on G8. 

Don't Victoria 8.1 and Michael 8.1 bought have 'vellus' peach fuzz hair?

Kainjy said:

Genesis 8 Starter Essentials includes G8.1 Figures if you have recently downloaded or updated, older versions contains only G8 Figure, so if you don't find G8.1 try update the product.

Victoria 8.1 or Michael 8.1 are figures based on G8.1 female/male, so you don't need them (unless you buy a product that explicitally require one of them).

So when I go to this page, I do not see anything mentioning an update, but I did find a thread I can save for reference once I get things transferred to my new computer, I really don't have much for 8.1 but since it is creeping into a lot of content, I wanted to make sure... Thanks y'all so much!

https://www.daz3d.com/genesis-8-starter-essentials

https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/6959726/#Comment_6959726

Genesis 8 Starter Essentials includes G8.1 Figures if you have recently downloaded or updated, older versions contains only G8 Figure, so if you don't find G8.1 try update the product.

Victoria 8.1 or Michael 8.1 are figures based on G8.1 female/male, so you don't need them (unless you buy a product that explicitally require one of them).

This is really such a noob question and it may have been answered elsewhere.  If I buy a figure that says it is "for Genesis 8.1" do I need to purchase Victoria 8.1 or Michael 8.1 in order to get the base figure?  Or any figure that comes out?  I notice in my library, I have a few 8.1 characters, however, I do not have the file for "Genesis 8.1 Starter Essentials"  like I do for the other generations: Genesis, 2, 3, 8

It looks like Victoria 4 to me, which probably makes it a bit old for me to comment accurately, but some of the suggestions for a similar hair may do you here https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/564936/help-evonne-hair.

Another possible option for G3F that works with G8F is : https://www.daz3d.com/krayon-hair-for-genesis-3-female-s

Hope that's of some help.

Regards,

Richard

Virtual_World said

Hi, and tks for chiming in:) Just curious as to what happens if you leave the opacity maps in place?  I can't recall getting artefacts from very detailed opacity maps, so wondering if it could have to do with gamma settings (linear workflow, gamma correction on, gamma 2.20 and opacity map gamma set to 1)?

...and a noob question: I don't currently use Gen8 so haven't bothered to install it, could I fit this hair to G3 if I change the scene identification? It's a beautiful model;)

I tested the hair bangs with the opacity maps in place and they didn't render in 3DL. I mean, they didn't show on the rendered image.  Because I wanted to do a quick test, I didn't convert the back fringe hair neither the bun to 3DL; but I am assuming it is also going to happen with them because their are very thin fiber mesh hair. 

Hmm, so I'll get the hair just to prove you wrong. Nah, it's nice looking and will be perfect for testing wowie's new (as of today) AWE Hair shader build:) 

Yes, you can use the hair with other generations; but have to change the supported figure or leave it as unsupported as I did in the attached image of Victoria 7.

Tks, that's what I thought, will try to fit it (or parent) to G1

Sven Dullah said:

Virtual_World said:

Hi, It's me again.  Here there is the finished 3DL render. 

Please, note that I didn't optimize lighting neither render settings. I just wanted to test a manual conversion from Iray to 3DL because I don't have any automatic tool and I am not planning to acquire any of them because I am exclusively working with Iray these days. 

The only thing that I noticed is that you need to remove the opacity map from the bangs, back fringe and posibly the bun (those are very thin fiber meshes). 

Hope this can help you.

PS. Please verify the conversion scripts don't replace the original opacity map with their own.  The skull cap and the Main Edwardian Hair Figure should always use the Opacity maps that come with the Edwardian Hair.

Hi, and tks for chiming in:) Just curious as to what happens if you leave the opacity maps in place?  I can't recall getting artefacts from very detailed opacity maps, so wondering if it could have to do with gamma settings (linear workflow, gamma correction on, gamma 2.20 and opacity map gamma set to 1)?

...and a noob question: I don't currently use Gen8 so haven't bothered to install it, could I fit this hair to G3 if I change the scene identification? It's a beautiful model;)

I tested the hair bangs with the opacity maps in place and they didn't render in 3DL. I mean, they didn't show on the rendered image.  Because I wanted to do a quick test, I didn't convert the back fringe hair neither the bun to 3DL; but I am assuming it is also going to happen with them because their are very thin fiber mesh hair. 

Yes, you can use the hair with other generations; but have to change the supported figure or leave it as unsupported as I did in the attached image of Victoria 7.

For anyone having trouble getting g8f skins looking crisp here is at least one formula that improves things, it is to use the iray vellus along with more enhanced skin that comes on models such as Penny 8 Victoria 8 anhd Olympia 8, all shown in the image

image above is iray vellus with older g8f skins below is newer skins with the iray vellus

I am surprised these enhanced skins have been out for so long but without the vellus the render effect , at least for me, just doesnt do the trick

 if were not for the DOF I dont think my renders would look too interesting, the pro renders on daz do not need DOF, they look good with or without it so I know I am not doing things the right way still but still very happy , depending on the scene, the renders are (sometimes) coming out interesting looking finally-think it really depends first that the skin and face can capture the eye enough

https://www.daz3d.com/blanca-for-victoria-7

if you have XTransfer

Does anyone know who this character model is that Zeddicuss uses in their product promos a few times? Is it Victoria?

I'd like to buy the character to go with the outfit/poses as well as a whole set.

https://www.daz3d.com/z-hourglass-beauty-pose-and-shape-mega-set

but it's a good base if you're willing to put in a little texture work. 

That's what I did and I put a medical device prop (from a Daz hospital room set) next to the back area and then threw a curtain in the back to hide the empty insides. lol

Good find, all. (How do you guys find this stuff?) I searched there and didn't see anything.

I had 4 pages of results and no ambulance. What am I doing wrong?

Also, I couldn't find a 60s police car (70s either) Everyone has only the crown victoria or OLD police cars from the 50s. Which is good for another story.

So I had to buy one from one of the other sites. I paid more than I wanted to and it wasn't rigged. [insert unhappy face].

Thanks again.

Apart from the XTransfer available here to get Genesis 3 characters to Genesis 8.. There is a manual way of getting Genesis 3 characters to Genesis 8, and there in it is very possible to get Victoria 4/MIchael 4, Genesis and Genesis 2 characters to Genesis 8.. It just involves the step of porting to Genesis 3 first and then porting to Genesis 8..

The one issue I did find was that in doing so, the ported characters would lose some of the facial definitions of the original character..

There are some videos on Youtube that can help in manually porting characters..

For textures, there's this https://www.daz3d.com/legacy-uvs-for-genesis-8-victoria-4 and it works on G8.1F too.

Because it doesn't say on the product page, here is a comment by the creator. https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/7187626/#Comment_7187626

Hylas said:

bxivn1 said:

can some one help identify the model assets used to create the Hottie?

Ok, you're new here, so: The way to go about this 'round here is to create 1 thread with your question, and not be gross about it.

Anyway, my guess is that her head morph is Cathy by Raiya. Don't recognise her skin.

https://www.daz3d.com/cathy-hd-for-victoria-7

thank you the help

bxivn1 said:

can some one help identify the model assets used to create the Hottie?

Ok, you're new here, so: The way to go about this 'round here is to create 1 thread with your question, and not be gross about it.

Anyway, my guess is that her head morph is Cathy by Raiya. Don't recognise her skin.

https://www.daz3d.com/cathy-hd-for-victoria-7

evacyn said:

richardandtracy said:

I have seen the GenX2 components come up in recent sales and have hesitated to get them because I am not sure really what I need. I want to convert two Victoria 3 characters to Genesis 3. I think I need the following:

• GenX2,
• V3/M3 add-on,
• Genesis 2 add-on &
• Genesis 3 add-on.

Is that the lot? Or is there something in addition to this that I need? I don't care about the textures, just the morph shape. If anyone could comment, I would appreciate it.

Regards,

Richard.

I think those are core ones. If you're focusing on V3 content you might want to pick up the V3/A3/S3/etc. bundle (https://www.daz3d.com/genx-addon-gen3-bundle) which includes all of the V3/A3/S3/etc. characters. Otherwise, just pick up the one you need.

Since it's really the only option for converting the V3/V4 characters to G3, it is nice to have. I've used it sporadically over the years, but now I'm setting some time aside to convert the V4 characters (and some earlier stuff) so I can actually use them.

Thanks for the confirmation. I only want to convert two V3 characters. There is already an A3 morph for G8F by TritiumCG that's close enough, and I never had S3. Never really used V4 as it was beyond the capability of my PC at the time.

Regards,

Richard

richardandtracy said:

I have seen the GenX2 components come up in recent sales and have hesitated to get them because I am not sure really what I need. I want to convert two Victoria 3 characters to Genesis 3. I think I need the following:

• GenX2,
• V3/M3 add-on,
• Genesis 2 add-on &
• Genesis 3 add-on.

Is that the lot? Or is there something in addition to this that I need? I don't care about the textures, just the morph shape. If anyone could comment, I would appreciate it.

Regards,

Richard.

I think those are core ones. If you're focusing on V3 content you might want to pick up the V3/A3/S3/etc. bundle (https://www.daz3d.com/genx-addon-gen3-bundle) which includes all of the V3/A3/S3/etc. characters. Otherwise, just pick up the one you need.

Since it's really the only option for converting the V3/V4 characters to G3, it is nice to have. I've used it sporadically over the years, but now I'm setting some time aside to convert the V4 characters (and some earlier stuff) so I can actually use them.