I'm still working with Michael 4 and Victoria 4 because I have a library of clothes and poses for them that aren't available for Genesis figures. Question: Is there any reason I can't apply hair created for Genesis figures to M4 and V4? I realize the hair would need to be fitted manually, but before I invest in more hair I just want to be sure there's no reason this wouldn't work. Thanks!

Looks like a Victoria 8.1 Jacqueline 8.1 Coral 8.1 for me. Not sure if it's because of the similar eye shape or the 8.1 skin. I found Genesis 8 skins more realistic than 8.1.

Kainjy said:

Non per fare il gradasso... ma il clone per passare da V4 a G8 con un solo passaggio lo puoi fare da te (io ne ho creato uno mio).
Oppure li puoi comprare già fatti: https://www.daz3d.com/sy-victoria-4-and-michael-4-clones-for-genesis-8 

Attenzione: i cloni vanno bene per vestiti attillati come bodysuit o tutine, vestiti larghi o con oggetti particolari (armature con spuntoni o elmi chiusi) danno molti problemi.
 

Vabbé, la mia era la soluzione free, comunque concordo con il fatto che vestiti "particolari" danno problemi, questo perché se un vestito ha magari che so dei bones aggiuntici, per fare cose particolari, esempio stupido ha delle ali attaccate. Quando lo converti da una figura ad un altra, il vestito riceve lo scheletro della figura ricevente, perdendo i bones aggiuntivi. Se invece ha dei morphs, la dipende, a volte funzionano a volte no.

Non per fare il gradasso... ma il clone per passare da V4 a G8 con un solo passaggio lo puoi fare da te (io ne ho creato uno mio).
Oppure li puoi comprare già fatti: https://www.daz3d.com/sy-victoria-4-and-michael-4-clones-for-genesis-8 

Attenzione: i cloni vanno bene per vestiti attillati come bodysuit o tutine, vestiti larghi o con oggetti particolari (armature con spuntoni o elmi chiusi) danno molti problemi.
 

The morphs Beth made were during the years of the legacy figures, from Victoria 1/2 up through Victoria 4.  Once the Genesis line started, she tapered off on the morphs, focusing upon poses until she just stopped (the morphs).

It's easier for Genesis figures to use the Transfer Utility function in Daz Studio but if you like me and love the Victoria 4.2 figures, than you might want to know how to fit stuff to the figure and at the end you could use about anything that will load into carrara to fit on V4.2.
After some research i found a topic in Daz Forum with a little tutorial for that thanks to the User jktarwater_8568c339b9
 

Original Thread: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/52699/need-tutorial-for-making-clothes-for-victoria-4-2)

I have now used this method for clothing and hair, will test it out with figures later too but i think this should work too.
So first step, take the 3D object you like, any cloth or hair. If you already have the item as an .obj file, it's easy but if you don't you just need to export it as an object file.
- So in Carrara i load my morphed figure, if i want to place a dress that was modeled to the figure, or i just load a normal V4.2 figure into the scene.
No morphs or textures needed for this.
- Than i import the object i want to fit on the figure, like a Haircut or a Dress and set the size (Overall) and position where it should be, with a Dress, i might model it into position that no skin shines through.
- After that is done i export the object as WaveFront Obj. and use the Target DazStudio (Full Scene). Textures aren't that important right now as you can do it later in Daz Studio or in Carrara if you have finished the whole process.
- Open Daz Studio and first load V4.2 figure or your custom figure into the Scene (no morphs needed). Click the Figure in the scene Tab, than go to Edit > Figure > Rigging > Convert Figure to Weight Mapping.
Than choose the option TriAx Weight Mapping and click ok.
- The next Step is just load the item you like to fit, the .obj file into the Scene as import, Convert to Daz Studio from Carrara. No other settings have to be done, just click ok and the object should than load in place.
Best thing to put or save the obj file into ...\Documents\My DAZ 3D Library\Runtime\Geometries\ (you can than create a folder you like to use). Be careful where to put the files as Daz Libary will be in public and in user documents, that can be a little confusing, you can also use both of them but you should know where the files are.
- After importing the obj. file you can than if you like add textures to it or you go directly to the next step.
- Select the Hair in Scene and Editor Tab and click: Edit > Object > Transfer Utility, As Source Scene Item you can now choose Victoria 4.2 and as Target the object you like to fit and hit ok.
- Select the Hair again in the Scene and Editor Tab and export it as a Poser CR2 File in this location: ...\Documents\My DAZ 3D Library\Runtime\Libraries\Character\...
You can also create a folder you like for this and hit ok. As Export Options nothing have to be changed, just click Ok.
- Daz might ask you for the location of the Object file as if you already have set it to the Geometries Runtime you can just click the file there, otherwise you should add the file there now as Daz will say that it's not the correct location if you put it somewhere else.
- After that is done there is only one step left. The hair still selected, or if not select it again and go to File > Save As > SupportAsset > Figure/Prop/Asset and save the file here: ...\Documents\My DAZ 3D Library\Runtime\Libraries\Character\... you can create your own folder again where you want to have it within the libary and just save the file.
As options for saving you can just take a look at the Metadata, the first option is SetContent Type, if you click Follower, you can than click for example Hair.
SetCompatible With should be activated, there should be Generation4/Victoria4 if it is, than just click Accept.
That was the last step, the file is now in your libary and you can update your Folders within Carrara, than just go to the location where you have saved it and you can load it directly into the scene and fit it to V4.2 figures.
I like to test out later to import a custom figure (from game for example) to make it like a full dress for the figure, than adding it, making V4.2 invisible and it sould be like an own figure where you can use all the V4 poses you have (but you still need to select V4.2).

felis said:

Is it using generic autofit, or do you have V4 clones, uch as https://www.daz3d.com/rssy-clothing-converter-from-victoria-4-to-genesis-8-female

Is the character the base G8, or morphed.

The problem you are seeing is not unusual, but can often be minimized by using clones.

 Hi. Yeah it's generic autofit. What are V4 clones? (sorry if it's a noob question) The character is GF8 morphed it's not original genesis 8 female.

UnifiedBrain said:

Diomede said:

This is the old spirit of the challenges that I liked the best, stretching are skills and challenging us to get out of our comfort zone. 

On a mico level, I do that in every Challenge.  But learning animation is on the macro level, because characters tend to move and clothing must conform.  Until now, I have successfully avoided thigs like transfer utilities and clothing converters, because I can make just about anything fit in the Carrara modeling room in a single frame render.  Now I find myself flailing away in DS, hoping to get something to work.

For example, I am currently trying to get a clothing item (OBJ) to fit V4.  I can get it to conform to G3 in DS, but where to go from there?

In short, to do what I want, I now apparently have to relearn DS.

I also have to learn how to conform clothing.

I also have to learn how to use the Carrara animation timeline.

I also have to learn basic animation skills (ironically, this may be the easiest part).

I also must brush up on video editing skills.

For sure, all of these things are valuable.  And if HW extends this Challenge for another month of two, I might get something done. 

Have to admit, I am counting on this challenge having a longer than typical period of time for works in progress. 

Other than encouragement, admit I can't be of much help for the animation timeline, basic animation, or video editing.  However, I might be able to help with the V4 issue.  Carrara 8.5 is fully compatible with the rigging setup of Victoria 4, Michael 4 and similar Poser figures prior to Poser 9.  Daz was making figures and content for Poser prior to the release of their genesis figures.  V4's native rigging is actual for Poser.  Do you have an old version of Poser(or even a new one)?  Not necessary, just curious.  Do you have the VWD draping plugin and Philemo's bridge?  Again, not necessary, just want to know the options.

Can you provide more specifics?  Did you model the OBJ?  Is it a clothing item made for a different figure?  Does it generally line up with V4, or is significant alteration required?  You have quite a few choices.  One option is to attach the obj directly within Carrara without ever going to Studio.  Probably not what you are going to want to do, but again depends on the specifics.

After taking a break from DAZ Studio for several years, I'm now back at it. One problem I am running into is the apparent lack of "fit-to" options for various products. In this example, I am trying to apply a hair style to Victoria 4.2 but the hair has no fit-to option, just a parenting option. Why? Am I missing a step?

The DAZ product is "Army Combat Uniform for V4." The clothes fit fine, conforming immediately to Victoria 4.2, but not the hair. I checked the DAZ store if I could find more info, but the product is no longer available for purchase, though it's still available in my Daz Central library. Any suggestions? Thanks.

Is it using generic autofit, or do you have V4 clones, uch as https://www.daz3d.com/rssy-clothing-converter-from-victoria-4-to-genesis-8-female

Is the character the base G8, or morphed.

The problem you are seeing is not unusual, but can often be minimized by using clones.

Hi, i have a problem when I import an Avatar on CLO. If I import a FBX file the feet has a really ugly distortion while If I import an OBJ the problem doesn't exist. How do i can solve? I Attached an image below. 

Ps. for the heels i'm using I Love High Heels, Poses and Shoes for Genesis 8 Female(s) and the avatar is Victoria 8.1 

Thanks 

Ghosty12 said:

I often wondered about that, just looking over at Rendo and it is quite interesting to see what the differences are.. Seems that Victoria 4 is still very popular, where as Genesis and Genesis 2 not so much.. As for myself yes I still play around a lot with Genesis 2 and Genesis 3, as converting characters is not so painful as it is converting to Genesis 8.. Also that Generation X2 unfortunately only goes as far as Genesis 3..

Yeah, there's no arguing that the adoption of G1 and G2 at other sites was definitely hamstrung by DAZ's own "push only the current figure system" strategy.  Given that dropping the production of new V4 gen products down to a trickle in order to push Genesis as the replacement, despite the fact that there were massive compatibility issues with Poser, pushed a lot of the user base into not supporting Genesis and created a huge and very nasty schism between the user bases, and a lot of vitriol aimed at DAZ in general.  As a result, a lot of PAs and users simply kept using the older figure, while a large portion of the Genesis and G2 products that did get made and and sold outside DAZ were actually hybrid items that paired two seperate sets of morphs, one for Gen 4 and one for Genesis 1/2, into a single product with a shared V4 era texture set.  All of which is rather ironic given that DAZ is basically going down the same road again right now by phasing out the G8s in favor of G8.1, despite the known technical issues caused by the post 4.12 generations of DAZ Studio no longer supporting older graphic cards.       

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Auto Shape Enhancer
iReal Shaders
V8 HD-Addon

Yay Free

Hair - Gwennili Hair
Hair shader - 72 'Funky Madness' Hair Shaders
Morph - Inga Britt
Skin - Irene Angevin (NSFW)
Brows - G3 Morphing Fibermesh Eyebrows and Pubic Hair
Lashes - PS Raeny Shape Morphs
Make-up - Genesis 8 Female Makeup Kit 1 - Lips and Eyeliner
Pants - Leather Outfit
Shirt - Blazer Uniform Set
Ring - Diamond Heart Ring
Necklace - Cross Necklaces
Bracelet - Braid Bracelets
Walls - Tweendeck
Lantern - Stable Builder
Sword - Rapiersword
Barrels/Food - Medieval Hovel
Wood Shader - Bed with dForce Blankets
Jewelry Shaders

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Kahhl Chest (can't find it anymore)
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ioonrxoon said:

 

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Auto Shape Enhancer
iReal Shaders
V8 HD-Addon

Yay Free

Hair - Gwennili Hair
Hair shader - 72 'Funky Madness' Hair Shaders
Morph - Inga Britt
Skin - Irene Angevin (NSFW)
Brows - G3 Morphing Fibermesh Eyebrows and Pubic Hair
Lashes - PS Raeny Shape Morphs
Make-up - Genesis 8 Female Makeup Kit 1 - Lips and Eyeliner
Pants - Leather Outfit
Shirt - Blazer Uniform Set
Ring - Diamond Heart Ring
Necklace - Cross Necklaces
Bracelet - Braid Bracelets
Walls - Tweendeck
Lantern - Stable Builder
Sword - Rapiersword
Barrels/Food - Medieval Hovel
Wood Shader - Bed with dForce Blankets
Jewelry Shaders

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Hylas said:

You can count the clock as a freebie as well because signing up to the newsletter is free and available to all. Not that it really matters in this case :)

Seems like I missed this when I signed up, was it attached in an email, or is there a different way to get it?

Also unrelated, I wasn't able to find any eyebrow freebie for G8F, neither mesh nor painted. The g3 one works fine, except for the morphs.

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Hair shader - 72 'Funky Madness' Hair Shaders
Morph - Inga Britt
Skin - Irene Angevin (NSFW)
Brows - G3 Morphing Fibermesh Eyebrows and Pubic Hair
Lashes - PS Raeny Shape Morphs
Make-up - Genesis 8 Female Makeup Kit 1 - Lips and Eyeliner
Pants - Leather Outfit
Shirt - Blazer Uniform Set
Ring - Diamond Heart Ring
Necklace - Cross Necklaces
Bracelet - Braid Bracelets
Walls - Tweendeck
Lantern - Stable Builder
Sword - Rapiersword
Barrels/Food - Medieval Hovel
Wood Shader - Bed with dForce Blankets
Jewelry Shaders

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Kahhl Chest (can't find it anymore)
AtmoQube

Ghosty12 said:

I often wondered about that, just looking over at Rendo and it is quite interesting to see what the differences are.. Seems that Victoria 4 is still very popular, where as Genesis and Genesis 2 not so much.. As for myself yes I still play around a lot with Genesis 2 and Genesis 3, as converting characters is not so painful as it is converting to Genesis 8.. Also that Generation X2 unfortunately only goes as far as Genesis 3..

...Generation X2 was also one of the reasons I stopped with G3. as it really expands the "gene pool" nicely. There is a utility to transfer morphs between G3 and G8 but it is more limited.

Torquinox said:

V4/M4 lasted a long time in the market compared to G and G2. Did someone already mention that? V4 works quite well with Poser, too. They like Poser at Rendo. There is still a lot of older content here, there, and other places - Content for older figures, newer content for older figures, etc. I picked up some stuff I didn't even know existed. O_o

...Gen4 through G3 also work with Carrara.. 

Cybersox said:

Ghosty12 said:

One thing if looking for "newer" content for G1, G2 or G3 then would have to look at other 3D content sites, as there are still a few creators out there that still create new content for G1, G2 and G3.. Heck you can still buy newer content for Victoria and Michael 4..

Or, if they're not creating it, they're putting up things made in the past that are technically on par with anything else made for those figures, since many were sold here at DAZ or other sites that have gone under.  Renderosity, in particular, used to have a policy of dropping items that dropped below a certain number of items sold per quarter, but they reversed that a while back and a lot of creators promptly re-listed many of their older items (though many still show in the clearance section), and that's where a huge number of DAZ's former vendors have ended up.  Which is nice, as I still prefer the Genesis 3 figures for a lot of purposes as they're rarely affected by the creepy smile syndrome that the 8s and Pointies are so often cursed with, and the original Ironman13's pose packs are still the best that I've used.    

I often wondered about that, just looking over at Rendo and it is quite interesting to see what the differences are.. Seems that Victoria 4 is still very popular, where as Genesis and Genesis 2 not so much.. As for myself yes I still play around a lot with Genesis 2 and Genesis 3, as converting characters is not so painful as it is converting to Genesis 8.. Also that Generation X2 unfortunately only goes as far as Genesis 3..

Ghosty12 said:

One thing if looking for "newer" content for G1, G2 or G3 then would have to look at other 3D content sites, as there are still a few creators out there that still create new content for G1, G2 and G3.. Heck you can still buy newer content for Victoria and Michael 4..

Or, if they're not creating it, they're putting up things made in the past that are technically on par with anything else made for those figures, since many were sold here at DAZ or other sites that have gone under.  Renderosity, in particular, used to have a policy of dropping items that dropped below a certain number of items sold per quarter, but they reversed that a while back and a lot of creators promptly re-listed many of their older items (though many still show in the clearance section), and that's where a huge number of DAZ's former vendors have ended up.  Which is nice, as I still prefer the Genesis 3 figures for a lot of purposes as they're rarely affected by the creepy smile syndrome that the 8s and Pointies are so often cursed with, and the original Ironman13's pose packs are still the best that I've used.    

Victoria 8.1 is Genesis 8.1, or specifically Victoria 8.1 is just a character morph on top of Genesis 8.1 Female.

If the expressions don't work, they have not been installed correctly.
How did you install them?

Hi there,

As the title suggests, I'm wondering if it's possible to get Victoria 8.1 expressions to work with Genesis 8.1 characters?

I bought this, as it lists Genesis 8.1 as a compatible figure, but didn't actually read that it's for Victoria lol: https://www.daz3d.com/the-expression-collection-for-victoria-81

It doesn't work with my Genesis 8.1 character unfortunately.